Season 2 Discussion

[ChaChaSlide]

My favorite person in the Hatfields vs the McCoys K-1 visa edition? Sister Chantel. She never says anything. That's how I would be on a reality show, silent in the background getting my check lol. 

[trimthatfat]

14 hours ago, Swim mom said:

I laugh that taking care of mothers is such a big part of DR culture, while Pedro's mom certainly isn't taking care of Grandma.

Not being snarky, but how is this true that she's my being taken care of? Because she doesn't live in an apartment? It's very difficult to uproot an elderly parent. Someone people really do desire a simply life in the country. I've see that a lot with elderly people in the Caribbean. I'm sure his grandmother is well taken care of and surrounded by love based on how many family members were present. I don't believe she's been neglected.

It makes me very sad that grandma's home is being looked down upon. There was nothing wrong with it.

4 hours ago, sweetpea said:

Pedro's mom is indeed a racist. She is vocal in a DR group who wants all Haitians out of their country. The Haitians in DR are getting extremely bad treatment by a large group of people in DR. Doctor's Without Borders are threatening to stop treating Dominicans and only Haitians if they continue to spit, harass and physically manhandle Haitians living in DR. 

Here is Pedro's mom's facebook page. She is not shy in her participation in this "hate" group. 

https://www.facebook.com/lidia.morelurena

Spitting and physically assaulting Haitians just because you don't want people with dark skin in your country is absurd considering how dark Pedro and his family are themselves. The amount of self hate these people have is laughable.

Thank you for letting me know. I obviously was not aware of Pedro's mother's FB or social media activity. I am Haitian and I would NEVER defend hate against my people. I am well aware of the treatment of my people in DR. I did give Pedro's mother the benefit of the doubt as I know not every person from DR is racist. I see Pedro's mother in a different light and this makes me extremely angry.

Edited August 8, 2017 by trimthatfat

[mytmo]

Couldn't Sister Pedro loan Mother Pedro the flat iron?

[Brooklynista]

20 minutes ago, mytmo said:

Couldn't Sister Pedro loan Mother Pedro the flat iron?

She'd have to chisel that hat off first.  Good luck w that one.

[Desert Rat]

4 hours ago, sweetpea said:

 

Here is Pedro's mom's facebook page. She is not shy in her participation in this "hate" group. 

https://www.facebook.com/lidia.morelurena

 

Mother Pedro's Facebook page is very interesting.  There are pics of her back in 2010 in a very nice, well furnished apartment.  Also pics of grandma in nice digs.  Sister Pedro in all sorts of beauty pageants.  Photos of Mother Pedro at work.   Fake drama?  Have we been played?

[Guest]

10 hours ago, sleepyjean said:

I am really confused about the mentions of racism here. I don't get it. All of these people are primarily of black/african ancestry. Family Chantel is Black and American. Family Pedro is Black and Dominican. They are different nationalities but all the same race. Prejudiced? Yes. Racist? I don't see it.

Check mother Pedro's facebook page.

[brillia79]

2 hours ago, Brooklynista said:

I wouldn't care about Chantel's culture either. Rude intrusive parents. A borderline incestuous brother. Constant taunts at my brother about being in the marriage for a greencard and then disrepecting my granny? Family Chantel and their "culture" can go screw.

Nevermind Pedro's borderline incestuous sister. River never touched Chantel's ass con camera. Nevermind his rude and intrusive mother.

The only difference between Pedro and Mohammed is that Chantel doesn't look like Shrek.

And judging from that Facebook, Chantel's family isn't supporting an ethnic cleansing campaign. Pedro's mom, on the other hand...

Edited August 8, 2017 by brillia79

[seacliffsal]

The root of the disaster of the DR trip is that Chantel felt she "deserved" a second wedding and wanted the families to be together.  Why not just go on a vacation to introduce the families to each other without the pressure of a second wedding?  Chantel gets very entitled with what she believes she "deserves."  "I never had a bachorlette party..." yes, because you initiated and perpetuated a lie to your parents about who Pedro was and did not even inform them about marrying him until a day or so befofre the wedding.  And then was so confused as to why her parents weren't happy.  Chantel has probably lived according to the "act and ask forgiveness later" philosophy and has been indulged by her parents throughout her life.  She can't understand why Family Pedro doesn't fall at her feet.  Chantel needs to grow up and stand up for her "family" which is now Pedro.  They both keep hanging on to the families in which they grew up-which will always be important-but for both of them their new immediate family is each other.

[Brooklynista]

2 minutes ago, brillia79 said:

Nevermind Pedro's borderline incestuous sister. River never touched Chantel's ass con camera. Nevermind his rude and intrusive mother.

The only difference between Pedro and Mohammed is that Chantel doesn't look like Shrek.

I'll give you all of that.  Admittedly, I'm petty.  And as far as I would be concerned Family Chantel drew first blood based on their lying ass daughter.  To me, all of this stems from Chantel's original lie.   She set this entire Hatfield/McCoy feud in motion by lying about why Pedro appeared in her doorway.

[Baltimore Betty]

After glancing at Mother Pedro's FB page I notice a photo of her in a cap and gown so she has a degree in something, why isn't she working?

[Baltimore Betty]

Remember when Chantal was trying on wedding dresses and she was bummed because she was not going to be able to wear one...did she even buy a dress for the DR wedding?

[sleepyjean]

1 hour ago, seacliffsal said:

The root of the disaster of the DR trip is that Chantel felt she "deserved" a second wedding and wanted the families to be together.  Why not just go on a vacation to introduce the families to each other without the pressure of a second wedding? 

I suspect the show dangled the wedding like a carrot and she grabbed it.

[Mrs. Hanson]

1 hour ago, seacliffsal said:

The root of the disaster of the DR trip is that Chantel felt she "deserved" a second wedding and wanted the families to be together.  Why not just go on a vacation to introduce the families to each other without the pressure of a second wedding?  Chantel gets very entitled with what she believes she "deserves."  "I never had a bachorlette party..." yes, because you initiated and perpetuated a lie to your parents about who Pedro was and did not even inform them about marrying him until a day or so befofre the wedding.  And then was so confused as to why her parents weren't happy.  Chantel has probably lived according to the "act and ask forgiveness later" philosophy and has been indulged by her parents throughout her life.  She can't understand why Family Pedro doesn't fall at her feet.  Chantel needs to grow up and stand up for her "family" which is now Pedro.  They both keep hanging on to the families in which they grew up-which will always be important-but for both of them their new immediate family is each other.

Bolding mine:  This is why I can stomach Danielle and Mo (which I can't,. really) more than the shitshow called Pedro and Mi Amore Chantel.  She brought this whole thing on her self and still can not get why everyone is not on board.  Both families are still rude and horrid mind you, but her "Hmmm...why don't I deserve a bachelorette party?"  "I want a second DR wedding!"......arrrg.

[Tinfoil Hat]

1 hour ago, Baltimore Betty said:

After glancing at Mother Pedro's FB page I notice a photo of her in a cap and gown so she has a degree in something, why isn't she working?

And there's a business card-like picture listing her name. Her profession is "abogada"--lawyer. 

 

She can pay her own goddamned rent.

[Desert Rat]

2 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

After glancing at Mother Pedro's FB page I notice a photo of her in a cap and gown so she has a degree in something, why isn't she working?

She is working.  There are lots of pictures stating she is at work. Also, she looks fairly professional. The "new apartment" story line might be fake drama.  

[MrSmith]

14 hours ago, Swim mom said:

I remember when the aspiring models on antm went to parties, they were to know who was who, to go up to them, introduce themselves, do their one minute self promotion, make a little small talk, move on to the next prospect. They were also instructed to watch their alcohol intake. The jacht party didn't go off that way.

Too bad there's no one there with a culture that takes care of their parents.

That yacht party seemed to my wife and me to be window dressing for Paola, and maybe also for the other girls that were there. We still feel like the agent is trying to get these girls into porn.

[Pepper Mostly]

18 hours ago, Swim mom said:

I laugh that taking care of mothers is such a big part of DR culture, while Pedro's mom certainly isn't taking care of Grandma.

We have no idea what the situation with Grandma is. She is not living in abject poverty. She has a house, she has electricity, she seems to have creature comforts and enough food to entertain guests. We don't know if there are any uncles or other relatives who contribute to her keep, either. So this seems like a harsh and unfounded statement.

14 hours ago, brillia79 said:

Where were these terrible conditions that grandma lived in??? She has a nice house with electricity in the country. I thought that was the whole point of Chantel's family looking foolish when they refused to get out of the van.  From the way they described Oedri's Mom's apartment pre-wedding, Grandma has a much better setup.

If Chantel went to the DR and Oedri didn't take her to meet Grandma at her house, that's in him. His country. His culture.

So I have a question... did they say that Pedro was raised in that house by grandma? Was his mom 5 hours away in Santo Domingo?

Maybe grandma raised Pedro for a substantial portion of his childhood while his mother was working? Maybe he lived there with her in the summer? There's a lot of speculation that Pedro's mother does not work, or indeed never worked. Unfounded, but speculation nevertheless. But maybe she worked two jobs scrubbing toilets to keep Pedro and his sister fed and that is why Pedro feels obliged to help her out now.

And I agree, what are the terrible conditions grandma lives in? She lives in the country but she didn't live in a hovel, gnawing on rat bones.

13 hours ago, Eme said:

That was a 5 hour trip to see Grandma.  Lots went on during that journey to make FamilyChantel not want to get out of the van.  Simple manners would dictate you not only get out of the van, but also you actually take small presents - including food -- to Grandma in the country.   Hard to tell what exactly Grandma's place looks like since the videography wasn't so great in the dark, but I can easily imagine that as an Elder that she probably likes her digs in the country and has no interest in moving to the city.  Many older US Americans feel that way, why not her also?  I can only imagine how FamilyChantel would have taken it if Pedro had treated FatherChantel's Mother like they treated GrandmaPedro.  We can only see what is on the screen in a vacuum....we don't have all the details, but given what we've seen, FamilyChantel's pearl clutching was over the top and unforgivable.  Let's tune in and see if Pedro forgives?

Agreed.

4 hours ago, trimthatfat said:

Not being snarky, but how is this true that she's my being taken care of? Because she doesn't live in an apartment? It's very difficult to uproot an elderly parent. Someone people really do desire a simply life in the country. I've see that a lot with elderly people in the Caribbean. I'm sure his grandmother is well taken care of and surrounded by love based on how many family members were present. I don't believe she's been neglected.

It makes me very sad that grandma's home is being looked down upon. There was nothing wrong with it.

Thank you for letting me know. I obviously was not aware of Pedro's mother's FB or social media activity. I am Haitian and I would NEVER defend hate against my people. I am well aware of the treatment of my people in DR. I did give Pedro's mother the benefit of the doubt as I know not every person from DR is racist. I see Pedro's mother in a different light and this makes me extremely angry.

During the first phone call (the now-famous "stupid Americans" call!) she referred to being "pure Dominican" which raised a huge red flag to me. I know a little about the situation in DR and it is not pretty. There's a lot of bigotry, especially toward Haitians. A young Dominican friend of mine once told me that she gets a lot of pressure from her mother to straighten her hair "or people might think you're Haitian" (!). Mama Pedro is not a nice person, for sure. But I still think FamilyChantel is worse.

2 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

After glancing at Mother Pedro's FB page I notice a photo of her in a cap and gown so she has a degree in something, why isn't she working?

There has been no indication that she is not working that I've seen. And maybe, as I said before, she's worked hard for many years and Pedro wants her to relax and take it easy now. That's hardly a crime.

No matter how horrible a person she is, she is Pedro's mother. I don't know how he's supposed to take people talking crap about her to his face with a smile.

[checker]

YES to all of the above. Granny's fine. She's lucky the train wreck only caught her once.

[MrSmith]

20 minutes ago, Pepper Mostly said:

During the first phone call (the now-famous "stupid Americans" call!) she referred to being "pure Dominican" which raised a huge red flag to me.

Yeah, agreed. I even paused the show to explain this to my wife because she didn't understand what was meant by "pure Dominican". IIRC, I even mentioned this in the thread discussing that episode. I've known she was a racist bitch for a while.

[Emmeline]

If I was in that van going to Pedro's grandmother's house I would have had a hard time getting out as well.  Why in the world would they not have planned to leave early and arrive in daylight?  Were they planning to drive back hours later and arrive back at the hotel in the early morning hours?

Because Chantel works for her Mom and I'm sure her parents are helping her financially in one way or another, tuition, etc., I don't blame them for feeling the way they do.   One way or another some of their $$ is trickling its way to Pedro's family.  What's wrong with Predo's sister and mother, can't they work?  By starting the support of Pedro's family at this time, he is setting himself up for a lifetime of this and that's ridiculous.

Don't all countries and ethnicities through out the world have a culture of helping out their parents when they are elderly?  We are no different here in the US.  We help our kids when we can and hope our kids will be there one day when we need them.  I'm sick of hearing about Pedro's culture.  I hope she dumps his ass.  Chantel is a pretty, intelligent girl with a beautiful figure.  Couldn't she find someone in her own backyard?

Edited August 8, 2017 by Emmeline

[Arwen Evenstar]

3 minutes ago, SoshulMeedya said:

If MotherPedro is an attorney and sister Pedro a pageant queen, that would explain Chantel being upset over the amount if money and gifts Pedro Sends home. They obviously aren't poverty stricken then.

Maybe Mama Pedro uses her new law degree to persecute Haitians....?

I'm sure a lot of this is scripted and a reenactment.  I'm sure if I had to do a reenactment of this shit show that I wouldn't be able to keep a straight face.

Maybe since she's made her feelings towards Haitians public, she has trouble getting  work? Or they just wanted to create a storyline fighting about money.

[Adeejay]

1 hour ago, Tinfoil Hat said:

And there's a business card-like picture listing her name. Her profession is "abogada"--lawyer. 

I doubt that Pedro's greedy, "pure Dominican" mother is an attorney.  If she were, her son wouldn't be so adamant about having to take care of her.  Besides, it's face book, anyone can list anything as an occupation.  If Pedro's wife was a young lady of Dominican descent, who was born and raised in the Bronx or Washington Heights, sending $500 to DR every month wouldn't have been an issue, because she would never allow it to happen.  

 

2 minutes ago, Emmeline said:

 Chantel is a pretty, intelligent girl with a beautiful figure.  Couldn't she find someone in her own backyard?

I agree.  Pedro seems to be a decent guy, but surely, she could do better than a part time resort worker/dish washer.  

[Desert Rat]

31 minutes ago, Emmeline said:

If I was in that van going to Pedro's grandmother's house I would have had a hard time getting out as well.  Why in the world would they not have planned to leave early and arrive in daylight?  Were they planning to drive back hours later and arrive back at the hotel in the early morning hours?

Because Chantel works for her Mom and I'm sure her parents are helping her financially in one way or another, tuition, etc., I don't blame them for feeling the way they do.   One way or another some of their $$ is trickling its way to Pedro's family.  What's wrong with Predo's sister and mother, can't they work?  By starting the support of Pedro's family at this time, he is setting himself up for a lifetime of this and that's ridiculous.

Don't all countries and ethnicities through out the world have a culture of helping out their parents when they are elderly?  We are no different here in the US.  We help our kids when we can and hope our kids will be there one day when we need them.  I'm sick of hearing about Pedro's culture.  I hope she dumps his ass.  Chantel is a pretty, intelligent girl with a beautiful figure.  Couldn't she find someone in her own backyard?

Yes.  This.  When in Rome, etc.  Same with Paolo endlessly talking about "in my county. . ."  Sorry you chose to move to US. Different culture and customs. Get used to it.  Americans are very accommodating, but tire of talk of the old country.  We all have roots in another culture. 

28 minutes ago, Arwen Evenstar said:

I'm sure a lot of this is scripted and a reenactment.  I'm sure if I had to do a reenactment of this shit show that I wouldn't be able to keep a straight face.

Maybe since she's made her feelings towards Haitians public, she has trouble getting  work? Or they just wanted to create a storyline fighting about money.

Mama Pedro works a lot.  She's a professional.  Check out her FB page. Very revealing.  Sister Pedro is doing lots of pageants with big crowns and sashes.  Is Pedro paying for the pageant dresses?

Edited August 8, 2017 by Desert Rat

[magemaud]

I had to laugh when Chantel told Mama and Sister Pedro that she wanted him to make some "gestures" to show that she was important to him, like a ONCE A MONTH date night!!! (which apparently never happened) And speaking of gestures, I thought her hand was going to fly off her wrist when she was swiveling it around during the ensuing argument. 

[MrSmith]

2 minutes ago, Desert Rat said:

Yes.  This.  When in Rome, etc.  Same with Paolo endlessly talking about "in my county. . ."  Sorry you choose to move to US. Different culture and customs. Get used to it.  Americans are very accommodating, but tire of talk of the old country.  We all have roots in another culture. 

Absolutely! I even paused the show and said to my wife, "There's a reason for the expression 'When in Rome, do as the Romans'." This is part of the reason for the trouble we're currently having in Minneapolis. Many of those in the Somali community do not want to adapt to living in the US, and now the strife that causes has led some assclown to bomb a mosque. Honestly, I'm not surprised it happened; I'm surprised it took this long. There is a lot of hateful rhetoric directed at the Somali community in this area. It makes me sad.

[brillia79]

1 hour ago, Pepper Mostly said:

No matter how horrible a person she is, she is Pedro's mother. I don't know how he's supposed to take people talking crap about her to his face with a smil

She can take it the same way she expects Haitians to take being stripped of their citizenship and deported for the crime of being too dark. She can take it the same way Chantel's family are supposed to take being called stupid Americans for protecting their kid's financial wellbeing from a guy whose family will bleed her dry. She can take it the same way she expected Chantel's family to take those chicken necks that she would never eat herself.

Fuck Pedro, his mom, and his whole "ethnically pure" family. 

[John M]

Isn't the Pedro/Chantel really just a forest for the trees situation? Yes both families are awful but I hardly see any reason to drag them into it when Pedro and Chantel are clearly completely fundamentally incompatible on their own.

What this show needs is some sane person to explain to both of them that this isn't working, that it is never going to work and they need to just walk away before they waste any more time and energy on this doomed relationship. Actually I think we need that show, just an hour with a couple and someone laying out why they just need to break up/divorce instead of wasting any more time and energy on their unsalvageable relationship.

[Arwen Evenstar]

1 hour ago, Adeejay said:

I agree.  Pedro seems to be a decent guy, but surely, she could do better than a part time resort worker/dish washer.  

Until Pedro becomes proficient in English, he's not going to be able to command a better paying job or be able to do well in a US college, trade school, or university.  Everyone who comes to the US without decent English skills has to start somewhere. 

 

1 hour ago, Desert Rat said:

Mama Pedro works a lot.  She's a professional.  Check out her FB page. Very revealing.  Sister Pedro is doing lots of pageants with big crowns and sashes.  Is Pedro paying for the pageant dresses?

Which is exactly why I think this storyline about fighting about sending money home is scripted because without all this conflict, they'd be boring like Alexei and Loren. Though it is a common perception that Caribbean born spouses support the f folk back home, not all of them need to.

[Desert Rat]

13 minutes ago, John M said:

Isn't the Pedro/Chantel really just a forest for the trees situation? Yes both families are awful but I hardly see any reason to drag them into it when Pedro and Chantel are clearly completely fundamentally incompatible on their own.

What this show needs is some sane person to explain to both of them that this isn't working, that it is never going to work and they need to just walk away before they waste any more time and energy on this doomed relationship. Actually I think we need that show, just an hour with a couple and someone laying out why they just need to break up/divorce instead of wasting any more time  and energy on their unsalvageable relationship.

Great idea. The marriage is doomed.  But I think Family Chantel tried to tell her, but Chantel is too immature to listen.  Looking at the expressions on the faces, I think Mr and Mrs Thomas have seen shenanigans from Chantel before just not of this magnitude of stupid. Girlfriend is a handful.  

[Adeejay]

15 minutes ago, Desert Rat said:

I think Mr and Mrs Thomas have seen shenanigans from Chantel before just not of this magnitude of stupid. Girlfriend is a handful.  

 I can well imagine that Chantel's parents have had many sleepless nights.  If she were my daughter, I'd be beside myself.  

[Pepper Mostly]

1 hour ago, brillia79 said:

She can take it the same way she expects Haitians to take being stripped of their citizenship and deported for the crime of being too dark. She can take it the same way Chantel's family are supposed to take being called stupid Americans for protecting their kid's financial wellbeing from a guy whose family will bleed her dry. She can take it the same way she expected Chantel's family to take those chicken necks that she would never eat herself.

Fuck Pedro, his mom, and his whole "ethnically pure" family. 

Wow. All I said was that she's his mother. Regardless of how horrible she is, he probably loves her.

[Cynthia8036]

On 7/30/2017 at 10:34 PM, sainte-chapelle said:

At points she seems very little girl lost, frankly I think she is terrified. She seems too afraid to even leave the apt for an appointment or to go shopping alone. I don't like her but I do think something very bad happened to her at some point.

At first I didn't like Anfisa, but the more I see of her the more I believe that the cold, heartless bitch act was a defense mechanism. She is just still so young. The Mom in me just wants to hug her and tell her that she IS worth more than she's settling for, that she doesn't have to sell her body and her soul to some idiot for a fancy purse, expensive shoes, or whatever it may be.

She's obviously never lived an adult life. She literally can't even boil water. Now here she is, brought to a strange country by a lying asshole, who she trusted would take care of her. Instead she's completely alone with no idea how to take care of herself. I feel like in a way she's a victim and really feel bad for her. I think Anfisa was probably severely abused before Grandma stepped in. Somewhere along the way she learned that using her body was the way to get her needs met.  Abuse in the early years really can cause permanent damage.

Also, I think Anfisa is probably the only one of the whole bunch that's been completely honest. IMO, Jorge is the one at fault here. He's the one who lied and manipulated Anfisa from day one, because he knew he'd never have a chance in hell with an American woman as attractive as Anfisa.

I also think Jorge's sister is way out of line. She needs to look at her "baby brother" for what he is, and to back off and mind her own business.

[Guest]

Agree, Cynthia. I also remember his saying that he messaged her many times and she didn't respond, until he said he was rich. I think the rich statement lured her into communicating with him. She may not have responded to anyone until then. I think if she had had other fish on any hooks, Jorge would not have had a chance. 

[Cynthia8036]

On 7/31/2017 at 1:40 AM, Schadenfreulein said:

Who the heck still calls their father "Daddy" at whatever age Chantel is? That was gag-inducing. 

My Grandma called her Dad "Daddy" until the day she died. My family is from southern Indiana/Kentucky, if that matters. I don't have any memory of ever referring to my dad as daddy, with exception of a couple times as an adult when it was said in a joking way. I think if I had it would've seemed weird to him.

[Jennifersdc]

Mr. DC had a good observation. According to Pedro to Father Chantal - Chantal is on the two-year plan in terms of them getting a nicer apartment etc. (which coincides with her degree?) - but Family Pedro appears to be on the dos-dias plan in terms of lifestyle upgrade. I observed that when Family Chantal appeared behind them at the wedding hotel reception desk Pedro summoned her back to sign registration. That makes me think Chantal was paying for everything there too.

In terms of Chicken Feet Gate. Family Pedro had no place settings, napkins, utensils, etc. set out when they came in. Didn't even offer them a glass of water. Just plopped a plate of chicken feet in front of them while they snickered in the background. So IMO - they drew first blood. They still should have at least gotten out of car at Granny's though.

I'm a little aghast at the whole racially pure thing. Chantal - you live in Atlanta. Plenty of great black guys (or any race) looking for a beautiful, educated woman. Move on...though I agree she seems a little immature.

[ChiCricket]

3 hours ago, Arwen Evenstar said:

I'm sure a lot of this 

Maybe since she's made her feelings towards Haitians public, she has trouble getting  work? Or they just wanted to create a storyline fighting about money.

Ok, I checked out Mama Pedro's Facebook. All I saw was her asking everyone to adopt dogs instead of buying them, and saying if you can't take proper care of a pet, you shouldn't have a pet. It was all in Spanish (but I can read that.)

   Am I on the wrong Facebook page? I followed the link given in this forum, and I saw nothing about Haitians whatsoever (and I looked at a lot of the page.)

Help, please?

Edited August 8, 2017 by ChiCricket
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[Baltimore Betty]

15 minutes ago, Jennifersdc said:

Mr. DC had a good observation. According to Pedro to Father Chantal - Chantal is on the two-year plan in terms of them getting a nicer apartment etc. (which coincides with her degree?) - but Family Pedro appears to be on the dos-dias plan in terms of lifestyle upgrade. I observed that when Family Chantal appeared behind them at the wedding hotel reception desk Pedro summoned her back to sign registration. That makes me think Chantal was paying for everything there too.

In terms of Chicken Feet Gate. Family Pedro had no place settings, napkins, utensils, etc. set out when they came in. Didn't even offer them a glass of water. Just plopped a plate of chicken feet in front of them while they snickered in the background. So IMO - they drew first blood. They still should have at least gotten out of car at Granny's though.

I'm a little aghast at the whole racially pure thing. Chantal - you live in Atlanta. Plenty of great black guys (or any race) looking for a beautiful, educated woman. Move on...though I agree she seems a little immature.

I noticed that too, Chantal is his wallet in his own country too, which makes me wonder why Pedro and his sister are still gripping about the $3500 ring, Chantal has financed that ring and is paying for it so it is a non issue.  She is paying for everything, rent, food, gaming systems etc...his mother and sister should be thanking Chantal for making Pedro's life so good.

The Family Pedro really knows how to make people feel welcome. Feet on a paper plate, I guess Mother Pedro has never seen how Martha Stewart would serve feet, lol!

As far as Pedro sending money back home is concerned, Chantal needs to set a dollar limit and save sending gifts back home for birthdays, maybe that will keep everyone happy.  However, that money should only be the money that Pedro earns, does he earn anything?

[bethster2000]

45 minutes ago, Cynthia8036 said:

My family is from southern Indiana/Kentucky, if that matters.

Northern Indiana here and I referred to my Dad as "Daddy" until the day he died.

[Jennifersdc]

Yes! I forgot to add Chantal's engagement ring. I find it hard to believe Pedro is giving her the payment each month for it. What kind of gaming system does he have BTW for that $? 

They definitely need to agree on a budget (i.e. - what he's sending to his family every month). I believe they said he works as a dishwasher? Maybe has a second low-wage job too? 

Rent in Atlanta is pretty cheap (compared to DC and other similar major metros). I buy commercial properties for a major institutional RE investor for a living (have priced a ton of suburban Atlanta apartments). They're not living in Buckhead/Midtown. Does anybody know exactly where they are? Based on quick research (and no real Spanish) - I estimate Family Pedro's new place in DR is about $600+ (more if closer to city center). $600 more can get you a lot in suburban Atlanta beyond a Studio depending on where you are.

[Mrs. Hanson]

41 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I'm a little aghast at the whole racially pure thing. Chantal - you live in Atlanta. Plenty of great black guys (or any race) looking for a beautiful, educated woman. Move on...though I agree she seems a little immature.

I agree - there was not ONE nice African American, Hispanic, Caucasion or fill in the blank guy in Atlanta?  The Jewel of the South?  You had to ship your vacation sleep buddy into town?  This is why couples need to sit down and talk about expectations with children, money, geography, EVERYTHING before you marry.  

[Desert Rat]

27 minutes ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

I agree - there was not ONE nice African American, Hispanic, Caucasion or fill in the blank guy in Atlanta?  The Jewel of the South?  You had to ship your vacation sleep buddy into town?  This is why couples need to sit down and talk about expectations with children, money, geography, EVERYTHING before you marry.  

That's right.  Marry a local guy, I'm sure they are plentiful in Atlanta.  Then you don't have to hear about his "culture", baby.  And maybe he won't call you baby. 

Edited August 8, 2017 by Desert Rat

[Desert Rat]

51 minutes ago, bethster2000 said:

Northern Indiana here and I referred to my Dad as "Daddy" until the day he died.

I'm in the west.  Never called my dad, daddy, but know lots who did, even as adults.  I think it's both a regional thing and the culture within the family.  It does not suggest immaturity as some are trying to suggest.  

[Arwen Evenstar]

8 minutes ago, Desert Rat said:

That's right.  Marry a local guy, I'm sure there are plentiful in Atlanta.  Then you don't have about his "culture", baby.  And maybe he won't call you baby. 

And maybe his mom won't serve you chicken feet on a paper plate.

[Desert Rat]

1 minute ago, Arwen Evenstar said:

And maybe his mom won't serve you chicken feet on a paper plate.

Icing on the cake, baby.  

[Jennifersdc]

1 hour ago, ChiCricket said:

Ok, I checked out Mama Pedro's Facebook. All I saw was her asking everyone to adopt dogs instead of buying them, and saying if you can't take proper care of a pet, you shouldn't have a pet. It was all in Spanish (but I can read that.)

   Am I on the wrong Facebook page? I followed the link given in this forum, and I saw nothing about Haitians whatsoever (and I looked at a lot of the page.)

Help, please?

I looked up the page too and was confused. My Spanish (despite three years in HS) is poor and all I saw was a bunch of dogs. I'm a huge dog/cat rescue. Mr. DC pretends the 17 cats I rescued from a local development site (including 7 juvenile ferals who lived in our guest room for three months before I got them to a sanctuary for a mere $1500) didn't happen. We kept two subsequent kittens over his protest (he couldn't live without them now).

But I didn't see any pets besides the mangy terrier (coyote according to Family Chantal) when they pulled up to Granny's.

[sweetpea]

2 hours ago, ChiCricket said:

Ok, I checked out Mama Pedro's Facebook. All I saw was her asking everyone to adopt dogs instead of buying them, and saying if you can't take proper care of a pet, you shouldn't have a pet. It was all in Spanish (but I can read that.)

   Am I on the wrong Facebook page? I followed the link given in this forum, and I saw nothing about Haitians whatsoever (and I looked at a lot of the page.)

Help, please?

Here is just one example of her nastiness:

 

Roughly translated:

It's important for Haitians to return to their country

1. Stop using Haitian labor

2. Stop renting to Haitians

3. Do not sell Haitians any property

4. Stop buying the crap they sell

5. Stop having sex with them

If you hurt for your country share this post

 

I don't know if she deleted all of her old posts but she is a nasty piece of work and now I know why she gets so offended at Chantel's family. It's because, since Chantel is black, she feels she is better than Family Chantel. 

Edited August 8, 2017 by sweetpea
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[CofCinci]

The money Pedro sends to his family isn't used to upgrade their apartment -- it's for his sister's beauty pageants. 

[bichonblitz]

On 8/6/2017 at 7:10 PM, JocelynCavanaugh said:

For some reason I was thinking Chantel was in Florida for school but I could be misremembering that part. 

They live in Atlanta. 

[sweetpea]

1 hour ago, KBrownie said:

Seriously.

 And what does her being racist against Haitians have to do with anything regarding the show anyway?  Chantel and family aren't Haitian, so can't use that as a way to absolve them of all their shitty behavior, so what does it matter?  Just another extreme reach to try and somehow make Chantel and her family better when they've been equally, arguably worse, in terms of behavior.  Yeah, racism is obviously shitty and wrong, but it has nothing to do with what's being discussed here.  But I'm sure the "Family Pedro is racist against Chantel and family!" is coming.

And all this talk about "when in Rome" bull, funny how that only applies to Rome=America/Americans, but when it's Rome=anywhere else such as the Dominican Republic, family Chantel can do whatever they want and have a million excuses made for their abhorrent behavior.  So yeah.  And too bad "when in Rome" didn't work for the Native Americans when the Europeans came over huh.   They didn't have to assimilate and stole an entire country, but anyone else dare not to fit the cookie cutter, European model of "American" and they are wrong and get blamed for racists bombing their houses of worship which they are entitled to under the laws and customs of this country same as anyone else.  Hell, even when you do try to learn the customs, such as the language, you get belittled and mocked.  How many posts are there in this very thread mocking Pedro's English?  But if he stuck to Spanish, and he could exist just fine in Atlanta without speaking a word of English, he would be wrong for that too.  Funny how selective and bullshit racism and discrimination works isn't it?

It's not all about being Haitian, most importantly, it's about being black. When Pedro's mom said we are "pure Dominican" aka she meant we are not mixed with blacks. 

My friend volunteered in DR and the level of abuse she saw against "black people" was amazing. She actually witnessed a DR man call another man, Haitian, a black bleep bleep and spit on him when the man himself was the same shade of color as the victim. The irony.

Just to make clear, I don't think this a DR issue. It's a minority issue. There is a lot of this light vs dark in almost all ethnic cultures. A good example of this is Sammy Sosa now vs before. Lordy, that man is a self hater.

Edited August 8, 2017 by sweetpea
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[Guest]

14 minutes ago, KBrownie said:

They didn't have to assimilate and stole an entire country, but anyone else dare not to fit the cookie cutter, European model of "American" and they are wrong and get blamed for racists bombing their houses of worship which they are entitled to under the laws and customs of this country same as anyone else.  Hell, even when you do try to learn the customs, such as the language, you get belittled and mocked.  How many posts are there in this very thread mocking Pedro's English?  

I'm really confused about this. I don't think Family Chantel is European. But, then again, I'm no anthropologist.