louannems October 21, 2017 Share October 21, 2017 3 hours ago, floridamom said: How are these pregnancy photos modest in any way? Posting them for the world to see certainly IS NOT in my opinion. It's flaunting just to everyone that they had sex. No Bueno, in my book. If you're going to do things like this, and begin to wear shirts that are already two sizes too small, don't hide behind the Godly, modest, Jesus 'curtain' in life. They're hypocrites. Of all the girls, Joy was one to always wear baggy shirts, pre-pregnant . Once preggers, she quickly made the switch to skin tight to show off her blessing. And to prove that she righteously fulfilled her wifey duties! 17 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3743147
Arwen Evenstar October 22, 2017 Share October 22, 2017 1 hour ago, louannems said: Of all the girls, Joy was one to always wear baggy shirts, pre-pregnant . Once preggers, she quickly made the switch to skin tight to show off her blessing. And to prove that she righteously fulfilled her wifey duties! How precious. How neat. How speshul that Joy has entered such a sweet season of life! 19 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3743284
FakeJoshDuggar October 22, 2017 Share October 22, 2017 5 hours ago, GeeGolly said: Even one of their 'best friends', pants wearing Bates looks more modest, in a sleeveless shirt, no less. Is Alyssa pregnant again? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3743338
Sew Sumi October 22, 2017 Share October 22, 2017 Not that we know of. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3743419
FakeJoshDuggar October 22, 2017 Share October 22, 2017 11 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said: Not that we know of. That must be an older picture then. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3743448
Sew Sumi October 22, 2017 Share October 22, 2017 She colored her hair (darker) when she was pregnant with Allie to flat brown with no highlights, so I figure this was from their pregnancy photoshoot with Lexi. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3743458
riverblue22 October 22, 2017 Share October 22, 2017 If you go to the thread where the Bates are discussed you can see a photo of Alyssa and John on a cruise ship. In shorts. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3744060
madpsych78 October 22, 2017 Share October 22, 2017 20 hours ago, FakeJoshDuggar said: Is Alyssa pregnant again? That picture was Alyssa when she was pregnant with their first child, I believe. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3745069
RedheadZombie October 22, 2017 Share October 22, 2017 On 10/21/2017 at 4:27 PM, GeeGolly said: Even one of their 'best friends', pants wearing Bates looks more modest, in a sleeveless shirt, no less. I don't know. Alyssa posted a video with Kelly when the new baby was born. She was wearing a short skirt and I felt a little defrauded by her struggles not to flash her crotch at the camera. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3745123
Sew Sumi October 27, 2017 Share October 27, 2017 If true, Joy got knocked up 6 days into her marriage. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3759440
BitterApple October 27, 2017 Share October 27, 2017 I think Joy was knocked up at her wedding. I know honeymoon babies happen, but that's some seriously perfect timing, unless Joy was tracking her ovulation and planned her wedding around the date. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3761180
Temperance October 27, 2017 Share October 27, 2017 (edited) 51 minutes ago, BitterApple said: I think Joy was knocked up at her wedding. I know honeymoon babies happen, but that's some seriously perfect timing, unless Joy was tracking her ovulation and planned her wedding around the date. Someone I knew told us that she read in woman's magazine right before the wedding that her wedding night was the most fertile day of her cycle. This was in the forties. She also said it was not uncommon in her family to have a baby nine months after the wedding. Her first child was born a few days before her nine months anniversary, and by days I mean less than a week before the anniversary. Their friends found this hilarious. My point is it's possible. I've given up trying to guess what's going on with Joy. Edited October 27, 2017 by Temperance 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3761334
Churchhoney October 27, 2017 Share October 27, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, BitterApple said: unless Joy was tracking her ovulation and planned her wedding around the date. Joy seems still to admire Mommy and Daddy. I can imagine them advising, aiding, and abetting this. (dumbasses) Once you've spent a childhood tracking mom's fertility on the fridge chart, why not just plot out your cycles with mom, dad, and the TLC producers? Edited October 27, 2017 by Churchhoney 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3761533
Quof October 27, 2017 Share October 27, 2017 Quote Her first child was born a few days before her nine months anniversary, and by days I mean less than a week before the anniversary. Well, then, she was engaging in pre-marital hanky panky, because sperm meets egg 38 weeks before delivery : ) (Pregnancy is 40 weeks, because it is counted from the date of the last period, which should be 2 weeks before sperm meets egg). 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3761804
Fosca October 28, 2017 Share October 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Quof said: Well, then, she was engaging in pre-marital hanky panky, because sperm meets egg 38 weeks before delivery : ) (Pregnancy is 40 weeks, because it is counted from the date of the last period, which should be 2 weeks before sperm meets egg). Unless of course the baby was born a bit early, which does happen. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3762043
ariel October 28, 2017 Share October 28, 2017 3 hours ago, Fosca said: Unless of course the baby was born a bit early, which does happen. Yes, those 9 lb preemies do happen . ;) 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3762522
Temperance October 28, 2017 Share October 28, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, Quof said: Well, then, she was engaging in pre-marital hanky panky, because sperm meets egg 38 weeks before delivery : ) (Pregnancy is 40 weeks, because it is counted from the date of the last period, which should be 2 weeks before sperm meets egg). I don't think you're right. My story was that the woman conceived on her wedding night, and the baby was about a week early prior to her nine months anniversary. @doodlebug We need your input. Also the baby wasn't nine pounds. Edited October 28, 2017 by Temperance 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3762535
mynextmistake October 28, 2017 Share October 28, 2017 2 hours ago, Temperance said: I don't think you're right. My story was that the woman conceived on her wedding night, and the baby was about a week early prior to her nine months anniversary. @doodlebug We need your input. Also the baby wasn't nine pounds. Not Doodlebug, but a nurse. We do count pregnancy from the date of the first day of the LMP, which is usually around 14 days prior to ovulation. Ovulation is usually 10 - 14 days before implantation of the fertilized egg in the uterus, and it takes a couple of days for HcG levels to rise high enough to be detected on a home pregnancy test. So by the time a woman finds out she's pregnant, she's considered about 4 weeks along. 40 weeks is used as the guideline for the ideal length of pregnancy, but anything over 37 weeks is considered full term. The average month contains around 4.25 weeks. 9 months would therefore be 38.25 weeks. So if your acquaintance delivered one week prior to her anniversary, the baby would have been at about 37 weeks and two days gestation when he or she was born. That's not at all unbelievable. So yeah, it's possible she was telling the truth about the wedding night conception. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3762670
GeeGolly October 28, 2017 Share October 28, 2017 My friend had all 3 of her girls early and all weighed over 7lbs. By the third child her OB said she probably ovulates earlier than the average woman. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3762855
Lunera October 28, 2017 Share October 28, 2017 Joy turns 20. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3763629
farmgal4 October 28, 2017 Share October 28, 2017 On October 21, 2017 at 3:27 PM, GeeGolly said: Even one of their 'best friends', pants wearing Bates looks more modest, in a sleeveless shirt, no less. Is Alyssa pregnant again too?! 7 minutes ago, Lunera said: Joy turns 20. She looks 12 in that pic. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3763644
DangerousMinds October 28, 2017 Share October 28, 2017 His salvation? 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3763665
humbleopinion October 28, 2017 Share October 28, 2017 She's Number 2! Wonder what is #3? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3763673
floridamom October 28, 2017 Share October 28, 2017 I find Austin's 'tribute' quite strange for a very newly married couple. His post states all of the things she does for HIM, but not what HE does for HER...it's her birthday, after all, isn't it? Sounds like they're working and hunting buddies to me. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3763686
xwordfanatik October 28, 2017 Share October 28, 2017 34 minutes ago, DangerousMinds said: His salvation? What? So if not for Joy, Austin thought he would go to hell? 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3763727
ginger90 October 28, 2017 Share October 28, 2017 (edited) From the parentals https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1147002188766762&id=510067475793573&__tn__=*s*s-R Edited October 28, 2017 by ginger90 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3763730
Petrichor October 28, 2017 Share October 28, 2017 (edited) Austin needs a fundie Hallmark card: "Baby, you're the next best thing to being saved from the fires of hell and the worm that never dies." Edited October 28, 2017 by Petrichor Spelling, as usual 16 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3763760
MamaMax October 28, 2017 Share October 28, 2017 1 hour ago, ginger90 said: From the parentals https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1147002188766762&id=510067475793573&__tn__=*s*s-R They all keep saying she's "all grown up." NO SHE IS NOT FOR FUCK'S SAKE SHE IS 20. She might be married and knocked up but that doesn't make her automatically a fully grown and realized person! ARGHHHHHH 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3763911
queenanne October 28, 2017 Share October 28, 2017 (edited) I am pretty sure Joy means "apart from me myself and I getting saved by Jesus Christ my Lord and Savior, Austin is the best thing to have ever happened to me." Not that Austin = her salvation. That's heretic talk. Edited October 28, 2017 by queenanne 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3763976
GeeGolly October 28, 2017 Share October 28, 2017 32 minutes ago, MamaMax said: They all keep saying she's "all grown up." NO SHE IS NOT FOR FUCK'S SAKE SHE IS 20. She might be married and knocked up but that doesn't make her automatically a fully grown and realized person! ARGHHHHHH 20 with the emotional maturity of a 14 year old. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3763982
RedheadZombie October 28, 2017 Share October 28, 2017 I always laugh when these fundies call their spouses the loves of their lives. The term usually means that out of all your relationships, THIS one is the love of your life. It would be more apt to say something like, you're my one and only. 16 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3763998
Catfin October 29, 2017 Share October 29, 2017 3 hours ago, MamaMax said: They all keep saying she's "all grown up." NO SHE IS NOT FOR FUCK'S SAKE SHE IS 20. She might be married and knocked up but that doesn't make her automatically a fully grown and realized person! ARGHHHHHH Good lord. She should be living in college housing, worried about her Econ grade and playing beer pong on weekends. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3764398
Jynnan tonnix October 29, 2017 Share October 29, 2017 23 minutes ago, Catfin said: Good lord. She should be living in college housing, worried about her Econ grade and playing beer pong on weekends. And she's not even old enough to (legally) play beer pong! 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3764443
Sew Sumi October 29, 2017 Share October 29, 2017 6 hours ago, queenanne said: I am pretty sure Joy means "apart from me myself and I getting saved by Jesus Christ my Lord and Savior, Austin is the best thing to have ever happened to me." Not that Austin = her salvation. That's heretic talk. Austin wrote this post. I will stop here before I punch a wall. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3764680
mynextmistake October 29, 2017 Share October 29, 2017 "Spiritual Encouager." Joy should have that put on business cards. 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3764697
Absolom October 29, 2017 Share October 29, 2017 Yeah, Austin being saved is at the top of his list as it should be for a good fundie manboy. He doesn't want to let us forget that or think he puts Joy ahead of that. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3764738
queenanne October 29, 2017 Share October 29, 2017 3 hours ago, Sew Sumi said: Austin wrote this post. I will stop here before I punch a wall. Thanks, clearly I can't read. I blame these confusing twinned Instagrams. That's a married-fundie thing, right? Not a general population thing? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3764858
Churchhoney October 29, 2017 Share October 29, 2017 (edited) 9 hours ago, mynextmistake said: "Spiritual Encouager." Joy should have that put on business cards. You know, I wouldn't actually mind this description if they didn't say it about absolutely everyone in the Duggar household. It's hard for me to believe that in a crowd that size, everybody has turned out to be an "encourager." Edited October 29, 2017 by Churchhoney 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3765122
queenanne October 29, 2017 Share October 29, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Churchhoney said: You know, I wouldn't actually mind this description if they didn't say it about absolutely everyone in the Duggar household. It's hard for me to believe that in a crowd that size, everybody has turned out to be an "encourager." But, doesn't that just sound like a fancy term for "everyone who mouths all the proper buzzwords by rote, toes the fundie party line, and continually reinforces our beliefs about how XYZ 'in and of the modern world' is just so evil by tutting aloud about how horrible it is?" By that definition, Erin Bates is probably a "spiritual encourager", because she tuts about how evil and weird "people with green hair" are. Edited October 29, 2017 by queenanne 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3765610
Portia October 29, 2017 Share October 29, 2017 (edited) Maybe I'm showing my own shallowness here, but I was surprised that Austin's tribute to his wife didn't include any mention of his wife's attractiveness. I'm happy my husband loves me for my intellect, but it's also important to me that he thinks I'm a hottie. ? I don't mind Austin including all the spiritual stuff in the birthday post since that's what is expected in their world. But couldn't he have at least thrown in the word "pretty"? His post seems oddly passionless to me, especially considering they're newlyweds. "Happy birthday, Buddy!" Edited October 29, 2017 by Portia 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3765768
DangerousMinds October 29, 2017 Share October 29, 2017 6 minutes ago, Portia said: Maybe I'm showing my own shallowness here, but I was surprised that Austin's tribute to his wife didn't include any mention of his wife's attractiveness. I'm happy my husband loves me for my intellect, but it's also important to me that he thinks I'm a hottie. ? I don't mind Austin including all the spiritual stuff in the birthday post since that's what is expected in their world. But couldn't he have at least thrown in the word "pretty"? His post seems oddly passionless to me, especially considering they're newlyweds. "Happy birthday, Buddy!" I'm torn between agreeing with you and appreciating that he didn't mention her appearance. 19 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3765782
Portia October 29, 2017 Share October 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, DangerousMinds said: I'm torn between agreeing with you and appreciating that he didn't mention her appearance. I hear you. I kept trying to think of his failure to mention her looks as a positive, but it it just struck me as strange. I've always been very insecure about my looks, so maybe that's coloring my perception. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3765833
madpsych78 October 29, 2017 Share October 29, 2017 17 minutes ago, DangerousMinds said: I'm torn between agreeing with you and appreciating that he didn't mention her appearance. I lean towards agreeing with Portia. Nothing wrong with someone thinking you're attractive. Nothing wrong with Austin not mentioning it either. The way I see it is that I, as a woman, would compliment a man on his appearance if I felt the urge to do so, so why shouldn't a man compliment me on my appearance? 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3765848
Popular Post sometimesy October 29, 2017 Popular Post Share October 29, 2017 (edited) Happy Birthday! You are always 2nd place in my heart. Edited October 29, 2017 by sometimesy 26 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3765857
Rabbittron October 29, 2017 Share October 29, 2017 https://www.romper.com/p/will-joy-anna-duggar-go-to-college-the-mom-to-be-has-a-lot-of-big-decisions-ahead-of-her-3008971 I love when they said that they are parents. Sorry but you are not parents till one of you pops out a kid. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3766078
Sew Sumi October 29, 2017 Share October 29, 2017 Wow, the author of this article is clueless. They dumped College Minus years ago. The quotes from Moochelle are years old. Bet the leghumpers ate it up as truth. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3766118
ChiCricket October 29, 2017 Share October 29, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Rabbittron said: https://www.romper.com/p/will-joy-anna-duggar-go-to-college-the-mom-to-be-has-a-lot-of-big-decisions-ahead-of-her-3008971 I love when they said that they are parents. Sorry but you are not parents till one of you pops out a kid. I agree with this, probably because I'm a superstitious old coot. When I go to baby showers, I won't give a card unless it says "to be" on it. I also just write "baby to be" on the envelope, even when they've already said what the name will be. (Yeah, I'm weird like that) Edited October 29, 2017 by ChiCricket Felt like it. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3766148
Arwen Evenstar October 29, 2017 Share October 29, 2017 23 minutes ago, ChiCricket said: I agree with this, probably because I'm an old superstitious coot. When I go to baby showers, I won't give a card unless it says "to be" on it. I also just write "baby to be" on the envelope, even when they've already said what the name will be. (Yeah, I'm weird like that) No, there was a time that anything could happen and no one took it for granted. It’s still considered premature in some countries to have a celebration until after the Baby is born or has reached a certain age. So, no, you aren’t being weird. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3766199
sometimesy October 29, 2017 Share October 29, 2017 14 minutes ago, Arwen Evenstar said: No, there was a time that anything could happen and no one took it for granted. It’s still considered premature in some countries to have a celebration until after the Baby is born or has reached a certain age. So, no, you aren’t being weird. Baby showers here are always very soon (within a couple of weeks) after the baby arrives safely. The baby is the guest of honor and it saves the mom from having a 'meet the baby' event that she has to organize. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3766240
ChiCricket October 29, 2017 Share October 29, 2017 5 minutes ago, sometimesy said: Baby showers here are always very soon (within a couple of weeks) after the baby arrives safely. The baby is the guest of honor and it saves the mom from having a 'meet the baby' event that she has to organize. That's very different to me. I have never been to an after the baby's born shower. :) 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/60/#findComment-3766257
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