Josh & Anna Smuggar: A Series of Unfortunate Events

[Lunera]

8 minutes ago, Barb23 said:

Who is the gal next to Ma Keller?  

Rebekah, her 2nd oldest daughter after Esther. She has 2 daughters with her ex husband and she is dating the man in the red sweater. 

Edited November 25, 2018 by Lunera

[madpsych78]

I thought the man Rebekah was with was older than the man in the red sweater. Who is the woman in the orange top next to him?

I feel like we're missing a Keller granddaughter. Either one of Rebekah's daughters or Suze's daughter.

[Spencer Hastings]

Anna looks so different lately!  Susanna and Rebekah are gorgeous little backsliders.  All of those kids look like siblings rather than cousins. None of their fathers produced any genes apparently.  

[Lunera]

2 hours ago, madpsych78 said:

I thought the man Rebekah was with was older than the man in the red sweater. Who is the woman in the orange top next to him?

I feel like we're missing a Keller granddaughter. Either one of Rebekah's daughters or Suze's daughter.

 I think he girl in orange and the one in pink in the back are Rebekah's daughters and the girl in blue next to Kynzi is Susannah's daughter.

[ginger90]

There’s a few seasons going on in that picture. Long sleeves, sleeveless, shoes, no shoes.......but David and Pricilla are matchy, matchy, him with his hand on her shoulder, and Josh with his hands in his pockets.

The dogs are cute. 👍🏼

Edited November 25, 2018 by ginger90

[Albanyguy]

11 hours ago, awaken said:

I wonder what it’s like for the non-fundie family members to spend holidays with David, Pris, Anna, and the ‘rents. Lots of prayers happening probably about them being “away from the Lord”. Personally I’d find it really challenging. 

It could be a lot of fun, though, if you're not worried about ruffling a few Fundie feathers.

I noticed that the Kellers don't exile Josh to the fringes of the picture (where he can later be cropped out) the way his own family does. But then, they're not dependent on their public image for the livelihood.

[BetyBee]

19 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

The airport visit probably was the super, fun and special date.

It might even have been surreal.

[Snow Fairy]

So Anna hides her belly again? Since the pregnancy rumors, there was no pictures that would say definitely NO. And JAbbie congratulations video says more YES

[Bayarea4]

I think she's just gained a lot of weight. Anna is eating her feelings like Josh. Look how full her face is, and check out her lower legs in the Smuggar-Keller photo.

[sigmaforce86]

21 hours ago, Snow Fairy said:

So Anna hides her belly again? Since the pregnancy rumors, there was no pictures that would say definitely NO. And JAbbie congratulations video says more YES

Geez I hope not - for all his sneaky ways the one thing Josh (apparently) hasn't done that he should have done is sneak off and get snipped.  He is not into having more kids.  Even when they were on the show and only had the first two he could barely muster a fake smile when Anna started talking about more.  I think the kids fill some sort of need in Anna whether she thinks it's expected because of her upbringing or the kids fill the emotional void left by Josh's cheating or she just really likes kids or all of the above.  But there's the reality of money, an honest marriage and a Dad who's really into his kids not just resigned to them.  It really is a bad mismatched situation, having more diapers to change is going to keep Anna busy but it's not going to make Josh a better person.  Honestly if he couldn't get his shit together and act like a human to make the most of the family he had when he was in D.C. why should Anna or JB or anyone think some time in prayer jail, a semi-productive slightly illegal used car lot and a few more "blessings" will make him get his act together now. 

[louannems]

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[Lady Edith]

Awwww how super sweet..JoshUa and Pa Kettle are matchy matchy!  Same fugly red and blue plaid shirt!

[ChiCricket]

On 11/25/2018 at 6:39 AM, ginger90 said:

and Josh with his hands in his pockets.

At least that way everyone knows where his hands are.

[Zahdii]

That's Josh with his Father in Law?  They look enough alike to me that I'd have thought they were father and son.

[Barb23]

11 hours ago, Zahdii said:

That's Josh with his Father in Law?  They look enough alike to me that I'd have thought they were father and son.

Josh has grown to look like Pa Keller.

[Sew Sumi]

It blows my mind that Pa Keller is only 59 (Ma is a few years his senior). He looks 10 years older.

[Westiepeach]

10 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

It blows my mind that Pa Keller is only 59 (Ma is a few years his senior). He looks 10 years older.

Seriously? Pa Keller and I am the same age? ODG. 

[Sew Sumi]

He's weeks older than my hubby, whose birthday was yesterday. That's the only reason I remember Pa's age.

Edited November 27, 2018 by Sew Sumi

[Lukeysboat]

I wish I could pinpoint why Anna looks so different. 

TFDW and Priscilla look like fraternal twins. It’s uncanny. 

[BitterApple]

14 minutes ago, Lukeysboat said:

I wish I could pinpoint why Anna looks so different. 

TFDW and Priscilla look like fraternal twins. It’s uncanny. 

I can't figure it out either. Her weight has always fluctuated because of pregnancies, but aside from an increase in fullness, her face has looked the same. Did she get some kind of plastic surgery? I can't put my finger on it, but her features are somehow different. 

[Lukeysboat]

Her brows are more noticeable. Maybe darker hair and brows? Hmmmm ...

[Natalie68]

1 minute ago, Lukeysboat said:

Her brows are more noticeable. Maybe darker hair and brows? Hmmmm ...

I think it is weight gain (pregnant is my guess) plus like you said, darker hair and eyebrows.

[Scarlett45]

37 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

I can't figure it out either. Her weight has always fluctuated because of pregnancies, but aside from an increase in fullness, her face has looked the same. Did she get some kind of plastic surgery? I can't put my finger on it, but her features are somehow different. 

 

23 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

I think it is weight gain (pregnant is my guess) plus like you said, darker hair and eyebrows.

Also age. I’m not suggesting Anna is old (or looks old) by any means but some women change looks between 30-40. I am jealous because this baby face won’t quit me! The only place people know I’m an actual adult is work😣. 

[lookeyloo]

1 minute ago, Scarlett45 said:

 

Also age. I’m not suggesting Anna is old (or looks old) by any means but some women change looks between 30-40. I am jealous because this baby face won’t quit me! The only place people know I’m an actual adult is work😣. 

Alas, I had that issue for years, and was annoyed by it.  Now, my youngest grandson told me a few years ago that he wouldn't live long enough to count my wrinkles!  My beauty advice to my 15 year old granddaughter is "sunscreen". Enjoy it while you can.  And..."sunscreen"!!

[Scarlett45]

4 minutes ago, lookeyloo said:

Alas, I had that issue for years, and was annoyed by it.  Now, my youngest grandson told me a few years ago that he wouldn't live long enough to count my wrinkles!  My beauty advice to my 15 year old granddaughter is "sunscreen". Enjoy it while you can.  And..."sunscreen"!!

Ha! Thank you very much. I believe in sunscreen. I also think people look younger and brighter when they are happy and emotionally fulfilled. My Mom says that women have an inner “glow” when they are happy. I think Anna does love her kids and gets emotional fulfillment/self esteem from the mom/child relationship, but as far as her “woman side”........a inner sadness could make her look different. 

[Soaper410]

7 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

It blows my mind that Pa Keller is only 59 (Ma is a few years his senior). He looks 10 years older.

Whoa!  My parents are mid 60s and look WAY younger!  Anna’s mama has always looked old to me.

Having that many kids & no money has to be stressful!

[awaken]

 They have looked absolutely elderly for many years! 

[libgirl2]

18 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

It blows my mind that Pa Keller is only 59 (Ma is a few years his senior). He looks 10 years older.

That isn't much older than me and he looks like he could be my dad! 

[Christina87]

Wow, Josh is looking rough! I try not to be hard on people due to weight, since I gained a lot of weight myself, but this cult judges women so hard for gaining after multiple children, yet lets men do whatever. I'm sure Josh would quickly judge Anna if she wasn't up to his standards, and he chases after porn stars, after all. He's definitely not having affairs with homely, plump women! This makes me think joshley may have a double standard where looks are concerned. 

It's so easy to imagine Josh as the person he wanted to be. He looks just like the sleazy lawyer who would write you on OkCupid in a sweet, heartfelt way. You'd look at his pictures and think he looks like a total sleaze, but go against your better judgment because his messages seem so nice. As the date gets closer, he'd be really commenting overboard on your beauty, and how he hopes you're the one for him. Then, he'd take you out to an overpriced dinner and brag on himself and his hotshot lawyer career. He'd probably even have two phones; one for "work," and he'd constantly keep answering both of them, as well as texting, with a brusque, "sorry." Then, he'd take you to a movie and attempt to slide his hand up your skirt and grope you in the movie theatre. He'd then be shocked when you said no to a second date!

not that I have experience with people like that, or anything. 😂😂😂

Still, if Josh had taken that route, he would have professional success in a career he could stay in forever. While he'd be a vile person, he wouldn't be on the front of People magazine, nor would his behavior be outside the norm of douchebaggery. Eventually, he would probably be able to move on and find a nice woman. But that picture looks EXACTLY like one a sleazy tool would have on a dating site.

[Lunera]

Another picture from the Wallers

[dargosmydaddy]

Davia's facial expressions continue to be made of awesome!

[BitterApple]

Who's the gentleman in the wheelchair? I've never seen him before.

[Lunera]

21 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

Who's the gentleman in the wheelchair? I've never seen him before.

The divorced older brother? 

The woman in the back might be his new girlfriend or his caretaker.

[farmgal4]

1 hour ago, Lunera said:

Another picture from the Wallers

Davia and Meredith look OVER IT.  I wish one or both of them had inadvertently flipped the🖕🏼

[madpsych78]

2 hours ago, BitterApple said:

Who's the gentleman in the wheelchair? I've never seen him before.

Yep, that's Daniel, Anna's older brother. I wonder why he is in a wheelchair. 

ETA: Just checked out Susanna's FB page. Apparently Daniel had back surgery. And the man standing behind Rebekah is Susanna's beau.

 

Edited November 29, 2018 by madpsych78

[dargosmydaddy]

13 minutes ago, madpsych78 said:

Yep, that's Daniel, Anna's older brother.

Is that the same older brother who offered her asylum if she left Josh? If so, I bet that was a tense Thanksgiving... I notice they're positioned as far apart as possible (Daniel and Josh, that is).

[Sew Sumi]

Yes, he's the brother who offered Anna asylum. The other two brothers, Nathan and David, are the youngest and thoroughly steeped in the Gothard koolaid.

[Barb23]

Is Smuugs wearing a ladies shirt?  I don't think I've seen a man's shirt with the all over dots (or whatever they are.) It looks like something I would wear to bed.

Anna's shirt looks like it would be better worn at  (a) Christmas because of the candy cane design of the heart or (b) Valentine's Day because of the heart.

4 hours ago, dargosmydaddy said:

Davia's facial expressions continue to be made of awesome!

With that look Davia could make a cameo appearance in a chapter of @mynextmistake ongoing saga of Sammy & Yay on the Dillard's thread.

[madpsych78]

1 minute ago, Barb23 said:

With that look Davia could make a cameo appearance in a chapter of @mynextmistake ongoing saga of Sammy & Yaaay on the Dillard's thread.

Well now this just needs to happen, it is a requirement.

[Scarlett45]

17 hours ago, Christina87 said:

Eventually, he would probably be able to move on and find a nice woman. But that picture looks EXACTLY like one a sleazy tool would have on a dating site.

I agree that in another life Josh would still be a sleezy tool. I don’t think he’d ever find a “nice woman” or if he did she would eventually leave him due to his infidelity and constant disrespect. This is a man who repeatedly molested his little sisters, cornered them in their own home and made them AFRAID to sleep in their own beds (remember Jill’s freak out at the dentist?). In a non gothard influenced life he would be the guy that would get “angry” after he spent $50 on a date, wasn’t offered sex and would sexually assault his date, then call HER a “whore” for not wanting to go out with him again. 

As he got older and less attractive and his potential female companions dried up he would be the guy that would troll for impoverished women from other countries because “women here are just too independent, a man cannot get a beautiful, youthful, childless woman with excellent domestic skills and a good heart who’s willing to wait on her husband hand and foot unless he’s young, nice and wealthy- it’s not FAIR!!” Ugh he makes me sick. 

[leighdear]

12 hours ago, Barb23 said:

Is Smuugs wearing a ladies shirt?  I don't think I've seen a man's shirt with the all over dots (or whatever they are.) It looks like something I would wear to bed.

 

I have jammies that look JUST like that, short sleeve T & boxer shorts that are navy blue with silver stars!!  *ROFL*

[JoanArc]

1 hour ago, Scarlett45 said:

As he got older and less attractive and his potential female companions dried up he would be the guy that would troll for impoverished women from other countries because “women here are just too independent, a man cannot get a beautiful, youthful, childless woman with excellent domestic skills and a good heart who’s willing to wait on her husband hand and foot unless he’s young, nice and wealthy- it’s not FAIR!!” Ugh he makes me sick. 

It just struck my how much these loser fundie guys are like the mail-order-bride users. Anna better hope she's not replaced by an 18 year old Pinoy girl when she turns 40.

[Scarlett45]

21 minutes ago, JoanArc said:

It just struck my how much these loser fundie guys are like the mail-order-bride users. Anna better hope she's not replaced by an 18 year old Pinoy girl when she turns 40.

Yes. Demanding all these admirable qualities from women when they have NOTHING, NOTHING to offer them. Not even a pleasant personality and a fun time! Then being bitter that younger, richer, better looking and more personable men “steal” women they think should belong to them. 

At least fundy guys like Jeremy, Ben, Joe and even Austin have something to offer their brides-the first two are attractive and seem like they’d be a fun companion, Joe seems genuinely kind and attentive to Kendra, Austin has a strong work ethic. What would a guy like Josh (who didn’t have a Duggar last name) or Derrick have to offer a bride?  I didn’t forget about JD but I stick him in the Joe category. 

[BitterApple]

3 hours ago, JoanArc said:

It just struck my how much these loser fundie guys are like the mail-order-bride users. Anna better hope she's not replaced by an 18 year old Pinoy girl when she turns 40.

For the Pinoy girl's sake, so do I!

[Temperance]

4 hours ago, Scarlett45 said:

I agree that in another life Josh would still be a sleezy tool. I don’t think he’d ever find a “nice woman” or if he did she would eventually leave him due to his infidelity and constant disrespect. This is a man who repeatedly molested his little sisters, cornered them in their own home and made them AFRAID to sleep in their own beds (remember Jill’s freak out at the dentist?). In a non gothard influenced life he would be the guy that would get “angry” after he spent $50 on a date, wasn’t offered sex and would sexually assault his date, then call HER a “whore” for not wanting to go out with him again. 

As he got older and less attractive and his potential female companions dried up he would be the guy that would troll for impoverished women from other countries because “women here are just too independent, a man cannot get a beautiful, youthful, childless woman with excellent domestic skills and a good heart who’s willing to wait on her husband hand and foot unless he’s young, nice and wealthy- it’s not FAIR!!” Ugh he makes me sick. 

I'm not sure Jill's freak out at the dentist has anything to do with Josh. She seems to be somewhat of an anxious peron.  Like many a person with a nervous disposition, she love following the rules, sticking to a routine, and being in her comfort zone.  She also was extremely upset over the shower curtain falling in CA and Josh wasn't around.

Disclaimer: Many people I know and love suffer from anxiety and this is in no way a judgment of Jill. 

[Scarlett45]

5 minutes ago, Temperance said:

I'm not sure Jill's freak out at the dentist has anything to do with Josh.

I think it did. She was specifically freaked out about being asleep, not knowing what was going on, with the male dentist in the room. Not the PAIN, not the recovery, not the medication, but being asleep with a man in the room. 

At the time I wondered what HAPPENED to this girl to make her be afraid of that scenario.....now we know. 

I am not judging Jill for being afraid, people are afraid random things, but if a young person says they are afraid to be asleep in a room with a medical professional and then I learned they were molested in their bedroom while they were sleeping by their own brother who they loved and trusted I think the two incidents are related. It’s awful but not a criticism of Jill’s character. 

[Albanyguy]

7 hours ago, Scarlett45 said:

It just struck my how much these loser fundie guys are like the mail-order-bride users. Anna better hope she's not replaced by an 18 year old Pinoy girl when she turns 40.

I can easily see Jim Bob going that route should Michelle pre-decease him.

[BitterApple]

4 minutes ago, Albanyguy said:

I can easily see Jim Bob going that route should Michelle pre-decease him.

Maybe that's why they keep the Hartono girl around.

[madpsych78]

5 hours ago, Scarlett45 said:

I think it did. She was specifically freaked out about being asleep, not knowing what was going on, with the male dentist in the room. Not the PAIN, not the recovery, not the medication, but being asleep with a man in the room. 

At the time I wondered what HAPPENED to this girl to make her be afraid of that scenario.....now we know. 

I am not judging Jill for being afraid, people are afraid random things, but if a young person says they are afraid to be asleep in a room with a medical professional and then I learned they were molested in their bedroom while they were sleeping by their own brother who they loved and trusted I think the two incidents are related. It’s awful but not a criticism of Jill’s character. 

Plus, Jana got her wisdom teeth removed with Jill and she was not afraid; Jana also was not molested by Josh.

However, if Jill was freaked out about being asleep, one can only imagine how she feels or felt every night, since she has to, you know, go to sleep.

[Scarlett45]

8 minutes ago, madpsych78 said:

However, if Jill was freaked out about being asleep, one can only imagine how she feels or felt every night, since she has to, you know, go to sleep.

Of course I don’t speak for Jill, but it was about being asleep and the (male) dentist being there in the room with her. At this point in the TTH they had locks on the bedrooms and the girls all slept in one room together......that may have made her feel safer.