Brain Bleed: The Shows We Hate & The Reasons We Hate Them

[Chaos Theory]

On 2/25/2016 at 8:00 PM, Mulva said:

The Magicians. I gave up after two episodes. There wasn't one likeable character or a lighthearted moment, just grimdark and a bunch of joyless jerks.

I dont care about unlikeable characters.  I have watched tons of shows with entirely unlikeable characters but Magicians is just slow and boring. 

I felt the same way about the Expanse but I might give that one a second chance to impress me because I really want to like it.  

 

I've tried to watch Penny Dreadful several times. I usually like gothic/horror/supernatural shows and movies, so I can't understand why this one freaks me out so much. The opening scene of the very first show gave me nightmares. And I never get nightmares. 

But people whose opinions I trust (like Aisha Tyler) rave about the show, so maybe I'll try it again. And maybe I won't watch it at night this time.

I'd actually recommend starting around episode three and maybe FFd through the first two.   Its actually a pretty good show if you like gothic horror and its only three seasons.    

Edited November 19, 2016 by Chaos Theory

[festivus]

I've tried to like Happy Endings. I've watched the first season and a few episodes into the second. I just don't like it so I won't be continuing. Makes me sad because I love Eliza Coupe and I want to watch anything she's in.

[Haleth]

23 hours ago, Chaos Theory said:

I felt the same way about the Expanse but I might give that one a second chance to impress me because I really want to like it.

If you have a hard time with the show try the books.  I don't think I'd have the slightest idea of what was happening on the show if I hadn't read the series.  

[DittyDotDot]

3 minutes ago, Haleth said:

23 hours ago, Chaos Theory said:

I felt the same way about the Expanse but I might give that one a second chance to impress me because I really want to like it.  

If you have a hard time with the show try the books.  I don't think I'd have the slightest idea of what was happening on the show if I hadn't read the series.  

I didn't even know there were books for this series, but I didn't have trouble following it at all. There was nothing really wrong with it, but it just didn't do much for me in the end. Some aspects of it I really liked, though. Like I thought they mostly did good with trying to depict what it was like living in space and I think the storytelling structure worked really well. But, I'm not sure I totally bought into their universe and none of the characters really popped for me. I think it's a well-made show, though. 

[ratgirlagogo]

8 hours ago, DittyDotDot said:

I didn't even know there were books for this series,

Be forewarned - this series is like Game of Thrones (i.e., five novels so far, with more upcoming, each about six hundred pages long).  I really liked the TV series myself but having skimmed through Leviathan Wakes I don't plan to read the books.  At this point in my life I'm too old to get into reading something longer than Remembrance of Things Past that isn't  on a level with Proust.  I'm fine with sticking with the TV version.:)

Edited November 20, 2016 by ratgirlagogo

[ribboninthesky1]

I really wanted to like Pitch. I found myself skipping past scenes over a few episodes, which is never a good sign. I wish Kylie Bunbury well, and hope to see her in something I can watch eventually. 

I also wanted to like This Is Us.  Sterling K. Brown isn't enough to keep me watching. 

Both of these are Dan Fogelman shows, so there's something about his TV writing that bugs me. 

[33kaitykaity]

Westworld

The Big Bang Theory

Grey's Anatomy

American Horror Story

South Park

The Simpsons

Brooklyn-Nine-Nine

[HunterHunted]

On Friday, February 12, 2016 at 7:02 PM, lordonia said:

I agree about The Expanse, although I gave up around episode six. Too many characters and convoluted storylines to follow? Too murky, both literally and figuratively? I'm not sure. The world as shown was intriguing but in the end I didn't care about any of the characters, which is a problem. Those of us who found the show confusing were chided about needing things spoon fed to us and, frankly, not being smart enough to get it. This did not improve my personal receptiveness.

This brings up a subject that relates to a show that I mostly love--Arrested Development. I know that Mitch Hurwitz felt like all of praise about how smart the show was put people off of it. Mitch and Ron Howard argued that it wasn't so much that the show was smart, it just rewards paying attention. If you didn't pay attention, this was a show where none of the jokes would make sense especially since there were a ton of visual puns. One of my favorites was from an early episode where the siblings are talking about getting rid of the family boat, "the old seaward" and they keep getting responses of "that's a terrible thing to say about your mother." Or Gob's misinterpretation of what a business model is.

In contrast, Archer is a show where I'm always looking things up to make sense of their jokes.

[DearEvette]

On 10/24/2016 at 6:15 AM, nosleepforme said:

Good riddance to The Walking Dead. Usually, when I watch a show for six seasons, it's unlikely that I drop it, but this show really doesn't respect its audience at all. Thus, I'm done with it.

I have The Walking Dead on hiatus.  I am not quite ready to give up yet, but I haven't watched since last season.  I didn't watch the last season finale and haven't watch this season mostly. I follow it here on the boards to get a feel for the episodes.  So far I have only watched the one that was just on this week (episode 5) because it 1) had no Negan and 2) I heard it had a good Michonne/Rick scene. I'll pick it back up once his ass-holiness is gone or at least they shut him up.  His presence has ruined the show.

[ramble]

I just recently cancelled a few shows:

•Conviction - I wanted to like this so much because I loved Hayley Atwell in Agent Carter & the other Ashmore twin is an actor I really enjoy so I usually give his brother lots of leeway. However, it just didn't hold my interest & I'm tired of being preached to & everything being a life lesson on how to grow. I go to church for that. 

•Designated Survivor - It began to feel repetitive to me after just a few episodes & I realized I didn't like anyone enough to stay. In hindsight I think this felt like I was supposed to be learning lessons as well. No, entertain me & if you want to make a point let it be made within the high entertainment factor. That was not happening.  

•Agents of Shield:  I hung on through so much with this stupid show because I like Marvel movies, but I just can't take it anymore. I don't care about so much that's going on. The storylines bore me. And after an off-hand political or current event joke, I don't even remember what now, I realized I've had enough. I want my TV to let me get my mind off reality for a bit, a mental break to let me get back to life slightly refreshed. If I'm more aware of a line or two dropped in a conversation than the storyline that it's buried in I'm not enjoying the storyline enough. Ugh.

[Irishmaple]

I'm breaking up with Supergirl.  I enjoy it and the core characters (Kara/Supergirl, Alex, J'onn and Winn) are fine. The show just seems packed with other characters who are just getting in the way (Jimmy, Mon-El) Mainly though I'm tired of watching Supergirl get her ass handed to her on a regular basis. She seems to pull her weapons out one a time - something calls for frosty breath so problem solved, likewise, the laser eyes and the super strength. In a fight she never seems to switch out her weapons. She just gets thrown across the room, shakes it off and runs back for another blow until she can't get up. IMO it makes her look not so bright.  If you're going toe-to-toe and getting thrown across the room, maybe stay there and try the laser eyes. I realize Plot requires Supergirl be captured but the writers underpower Supergirl way too often for my liking.

[Chaos Theory]

I am pretty sure I am not going to watch Scandal when it returns.  The last thing I need right now is more politics.  

[ratgirlagogo]

On 11/22/2016 at 7:57 AM, ramble said:

the other Ashmore twin is an actor I really enjoy

Holy shit I feel stupid.  Until this minute that I read your post and then looked it up on IMDB - I did not even realize that I was watching two different actors.  

[maraleia]

On 11/22/2016 at 6:57 AM, ramble said:

I just recently cancelled a few shows:

•Conviction - I wanted to like this so much because I loved Hayley Atwell in Agent Carter & the other Ashmore twin is an actor I really enjoy so I usually give his brother lots of leeway. However, it just didn't hold my interest & I'm tired of being preached to & everything being a life lesson on how to grow. I go to church for that. 

•Designated Survivor - It began to feel repetitive to me after just a few episodes & I realized I didn't like anyone enough to stay. In hindsight I think this felt like I was supposed to be learning lessons as well. No, entertain me & if you want to make a point let it be made within the high entertainment factor. That was not happening.  

•Agents of Shield:  I hung on through so much with this stupid show because I like Marvel movies, but I just can't take it anymore. I don't care about so much that's going on. The storylines bore me. And after an off-hand political or current event joke, I don't even remember what now, I realized I've had enough. I want my TV to let me get my mind off reality for a bit, a mental break to let me get back to life slightly refreshed. If I'm more aware of a line or two dropped in a conversation than the storyline that it's buried in I'm not enjoying the storyline enough. Ugh.

I'm with you on the first two which I gave up on recently. Still watching AOS but I did give up Poldark because I'm tired of rape being used as a storytelling device.

[Snipsa]

A recent show I gave a decent chance, but won't continue watching is Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt.  I actually really enjoyed the first half of the 1st season, but by the end of the season the campiness and hijinks just became too much.  I just couldn't with the court scenes...

 

I may decide to watch the second season at some point, but for now, I'm out! I think it may be that the binge model didn't work for this show (at least not for me), as watching all the episode over a span of a few days just left me feeling numb and dumb, not what the creators were after...

 

Another show I've tried to like a number of times is The Sopranos.  It's just too longwinded and never seems to reach any conclusions (at least none that stick). I've watched the start of the first season probably 4 times by now, but just can't get into it enough to continue for the long haul.

 

Game of Thrones: I watched the first 2 episodes when they first aired, didn't get the hype, but decided I would return to it at some point. Now, it's six seasons later and the entire thing just seems way too daunting to attempt to start watching now (and with cultural influence as it is, most of the big moments have been spoiled by now)

[Haleth]

I gave up on both Poldark and Designated Survivor because I decided I didn't like the main character anymore.  I want to shake both of them and tell them to quit acting like idiots.

[bmasters9]

On 11/21/2016 at 4:02 PM, HunterHunted said:

If you didn't pay attention, this was a show where none of the jokes would make sense especially since there were a ton of visual puns.

That was the very reason why Police Squad! didn't last too long on ABC in 1982, IIRC.

[bmasters9]

On 11/22/2016 at 7:57 AM, ramble said:

•Designated Survivor - It began to feel repetitive to me after just a few episodes & I realized I didn't like anyone enough to stay. In hindsight I think this felt like I was supposed to be learning lessons as well. No, entertain me & if you want to make a point let it be made within the high entertainment factor. That was not happening. 

The very reason why I have loathed (and still will loathe) any show with "very special episodes," whether it be comedy or drama.

[kassygreene]

I gave Designated Survivor two (maybe three) episodes and cancelled it.  To be honest, any White-House/Executive Branch show probably won't work for me (not even Madam Secretary) - The West Wing set a very high bar.  But DS just made me dig out the relevant Tom Clancy Jack-Ryan-Commander-in-Chief books (Debt of Honor for the setup, and Executive Orders for the aftermath).  Much more satisfying to read, and with large sections of military action (mil-porn?) to skim quickly through, not all that long.

I cancelled Pure Genius without watching - the idea was interesting, the CBS First Look wasn't awful, but as far as I can tell there is no buzz, and I had enough shows to watch already.

Cancelled No Tomorrow after trying out the teaser, a few spots in the body, and the end of the pilot.  No hook for me, guess I'm too old to find that generation(s) charming.

Cancelled Rosewood last year at the end of the teaser for episode 3, when I realized that it had featured Important Character Information about the female lead, and I still didn't recognize her.

Cancelled Scorpion at the beginning of season 2, when I finally realized that a) what's-his-name clearly had something on the programmers at CBS, because this was terrible and b) it was terrible because it was a very badly written, utterly charmless, comic book (not even a graphic novel, just a comic book).

I kind of want to cancel The Real O'Neals, but it looks like ABC will be doing that for me, and the show is honestly funny, just that actor playing what's his name made himself grate (and for me at least he ain't coming back from that).

I really wanted to cancel Speechless (I have an autistic brother old enough to be in AARP - what can Hollywood tell me about special needs?), but it has been improving, it is somewhat sweet and appropriately cynical, and I'm still in.

I wanted to cancel Sleepy Hollow (which I never intended to watch, thank you reviewer at TWOP), and really wish it had been one season and done, but they hooked me in to season 2, kept me there for John Noble, even though it was OBVIOUSLY being badly written, got me back for season 3 (sadly "better" but they never seemed to find the courage to go to the good stuff), and I'll probably watch season 4.  Well, I will try.

But the two Big Favors I Did For Myself this year were cancelling Chicago Med (I don't want medicos who have that much crap influencing their work life, and with the heavy hitters on that cast Choi's parrot should not be the one I care most about) and Chicago Fire (fire the confetti cannons!).  Not even for the below the line characters can I keep up with Our Lady of the Immaculate Make-up, St Gabby of 51.

[Chaos Theory]

18 hours ago, ratgirlagogo said:

Holy shit I feel stupid.  Until this minute that I read your post and then looked it up on IMDB - I did not even realize that I was watching two different actors.  

Only reason I know is because of warehouse 13.  Same way I know that Nicholas Brendon of Buffy fame is a twin.  Both sets have acted against each other.  It's fun to watch actually.

[Raja]

2 hours ago, kassygreene said:

 But DS just made me dig out the relevant Tom Clancy Jack-Ryan-Commander-in-Chief books (Debt of Honor for the setup, and Executive Orders for the aftermath).  Much more satisfying to read, and with large sections of military action (mil-porn?) to skim quickly through, not all that long.

 

Yes that is mil porn. But also included is doing things like wearing proper uniforms and not trying to say federal law says we have to make a mistake with them. Or calling Marine staff NCOs "Staff Sergeant" and not just "Sergeant" or even worse  "Sarge" like the mistake Stargate Universe made after SG-1 was a mil-porn/sci fi show.. being correct on military life details as was done on JAG, or The Last Ship before the US Navy quietly started withdrawing its support

[ratgirlagogo]

1 hour ago, Chaos Theory said:

Only reason I know is because of warehouse 13

But they didn't act together on Warehouse 13. I just looked it up. They DID act together in an episode of Fringe - which, like Warehouse 13, I loved and watched every episode of - but since Fringe had the regular cast all playing alternate universe versions of themselves on the regular  it never occurred to me that I was watching twins.

Still. I feel dumb.

Edited November 24, 2016 by ratgirlagogo

[ramble]

2 hours ago, ratgirlagogo said:

But they didn't act together on Warehouse 13. I just looked it up. They DID act together in an episode of Fringe - which, like Warehouse 13, I loved and watched every episode of - but since Fringe had the regular cast all playing alternate universe versions of themselves on the regular  it never occurred to me that I was watching twins.

Still. I feel dumb.

Hey don't feel dumb I only know because of my teenager. LOL. We were watching Warehouse 13 & she asked if Jinks & Iceman from X-Men were the same guy & then Googled it & educated me on the twins careers. I still get their names mixed up, but the Ashmore in WH13 & now on Killjoys tends to be my favorite, although any  actor who has been on Fringe automatically gets a little love from me. 

[kassygreene]

I spent four years thinking Shawn Ashmore was Ruzek on Chicago P.D.  Realized last September that no, that was some guy who it turns out barely looks like the Ashmore brothers (Patrick John Flueger).  I'm still not sure how I did that.

[HunterHunted]

On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 11:09 PM, Snipsa said:

A recent show I gave a decent chance, but won't continue watching is Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt.  I actually really enjoyed the first half of the 1st season, but by the end of the season the campiness and hijinks just became too much.  I just couldn't with the court scenes...

 

I may decide to watch the second season at some point, but for now, I'm out! I think it may be that the binge model didn't work for this show (at least not for me), as watching all the episode over a span of a few days just left me feeling numb and dumb, not what the creators were after...

 

Another show I've tried to like a number of times is The Sopranos.  It's just too longwinded and never seems to reach any conclusions (at least none that stick). I've watched the start of the first season probably 4 times by now, but just can't get into it enough to continue for the long haul.

 

Game of Thrones: I watched the first 2 episodes when they first aired, didn't get the hype, but decided I would return to it at some point. Now, it's six seasons later and the entire thing just seems way too daunting to attempt to start watching now (and with cultural influence as it is, most of the big moments have been spoiled by now)

I don't think season 2 of Kimmy Schmidt is as funny as season 1. It's also weirdly dark. They start to delve into how Kimmy was traumatized in the bunker. It really spends a fair amount of time on everyone's dysfunction.

I like The Sopranos, but I don't love it. The Sopranos is a character study and that's part of the reason it's so talky. It's only glancingly concerned with plot and story. I think too often people praise it like it's the second coming of the Godfather, but they are wildly different and attempting to do different  things.

I like Game of Thrones, but I had the hardest time telling characters apart for most of season 1. Here's a dude with brown hair. Another dude with brown hair. Here's a dude with brown hair and a beard.

[jewel21]

Salem.

Pitch

This is Us

Sopranos

The Good Place

[bmasters9]

On 11/24/2016 at 0:09 AM, Snipsa said:

Game of Thrones: I watched the first 2 episodes when they first aired, didn't get the hype, but decided I would return to it at some point. Now, it's six seasons later and the entire thing just seems way too daunting to attempt to start watching now (and with cultural influence as it is, most of the big moments have been spoiled by now)

That's been the case with many older series that I've gotten the DVD lots of lately-- Charlie's Angels and Miami Vice are two big examples. I didn't see them when they were on then on ABC and NBC respectively (Angels ended a short time after I was born, and Vice had its entire run on NBC when I was a boy [started when I was 3, and ended when I was 8]). Now, all these years later, and both are looming large and seemingly as daunting to me as Game of Thrones is to you.

[supposebly]

The Expanse. It seemed to have a lot of potential and I really liked how the world was set up. But the characters were mostly one-dimensional or boring stock characters from the TV tropes closet and the only one I got excited about was dead within 2 episodes. I lasted the first season but I won't go back.

[CaffeinatedAunt79]

Tried watching Gilmore Girls when it originally aired for a bit, really disliked Rory so that killed my interest in it.

Out of all of NBC's Thursday night sitcoms, the only one I liked was The Office.  30 Rock, Parks and Rec, Scrubs, Community...didn't care for any of them.

[proserpina65]

On ‎05‎/‎19‎/‎2016 at 0:50 PM, JaggedLilPill said:

I don't know if this counts, but NBC's The Slap. Truthfully I don't know if you're supposed to like it, but after watching all the episodes, I wanted those eight or so hours that I spent watching of my life back. I wish I knew how they convinced the majority of those actors to sign on. Did they read the scripts? I mean....oy. 

I tried watching the original Australian series when BBC America (or was it PBS?) aired it.  It was just as bad.

[Chaos Theory]

I mostly know myself pretty well at least when it comes to TV so there aren't really to many shows that I should or want to like but I don't.  There are a lot of shows I am pretty much sure I won't like so why try and waste my time and shows that are smack in my wheelhouse.  

Of course there are exceptions:  I was surprised I didn't like Expanse or The Magicians.   Although I am considering giving season 2 a shot of both shows.  I am also surprised I never really got on board the Game Of Thrones train but that is probably due a lot to me not caring much for HBO.

Never cared much for Supernatural either even though I should but my explanation for that is that it is excessively dude heavy.  

[zxy556575]

11 minutes ago, Chaos Theory said:

I was surprised I didn't like Expanse or The Magicians. Although I am considering giving season 2 a shot of both shows.

Me, too. The Magicians looks like it's going to be more action-driven now. The Expanse does not, so it's straightforward masochism on my part to try again.

[aradia22]

There are probably better examples but I haven't been willfully dropping shows lately. The last time I remember getting mad at a show for not getting better was Once Upon a Time (I left after season 1). I tend to be pretty loyal... just lazy. So the shows I've dropped have been shows I was watching on hulu that got to be too much to keep up with/I don't want to subscribe to hulu. So... Fresh Off the Boat, Superstore, Blackish, The Mindy Project. I was still enjoying the first two on a regular basis. But I'm a bad week to week person. I need to fill up the DVR and then binge watch and I didn't do that so now I don't know how I'd catch up. As for shows I more intentionally stopped watching... Quantico (painfully stupid) and How To Get Away With Murder (too convoluted).

[Jack Shaftoe]

Westworld - hats off for Thandie Newton and Jeffrey Wright but the show is so pretentious and has so few likable characters that I'm not going to be watching any more. Person of Interest was so much better than this expensive mess.

[aradia22]

Oh, yeah, Bones. I definitely cancelled that one for myself. I think I've seen some episodes since then trying to give it another shot, but I basically checked out after season 5. I haven't watched it in years. I wonder what the actors will do now that it's actually ending. I made it through all of House even though it went off the rails because there was enough good there. Bones started a little predictable and cliched and became a cartoon. 

Empire. I was still enjoying things here and there in episodes even though they were racing through plotlines. I just forgot it came back (whatever the break was after Jamal got that commercial) and then wasn't motivated to catch up.

American Idol. I stopped watching when Scotty won. I think I was vaguely aware of it during the Phillip Phillips season. The only reason I even paid attention that long was because I was listening to a podcast that talked about it every week. 

True Blood. I bailed early in season 1. The only thing I liked was the song they played over the credits. Do they still call that a theme song?

Smallville. I stopped watching when Lois appeared. I liked Chloe and I could have gotten over that ship if I hadn't hated the actress they cast as Lois and her characterization.

Project Runway. I've always kept up with it even if I felt exhausted and didn't watch a couple of episodes. But I completely bailed this season and I didn't feel the loss.

Covert Affairs. I hate the actor they brought over from Once Upon a Time to play the ex-boyfriend she was pining over. I think I bailed after season 1? I don't know. The show was never very interesting.

[ChromaKelly]

The Walking Dead  - It's official, I'm done. I said I was done after the first episode, but then everyone was talking about The Kingdom and the tiger, so I was like ok let me see what that's about. And, that was the only episode that's held my interest this season. The Maggie ep and this past one, I didn't even finish watching. I'm done, for real.

Masters of Sex - Really over Virginia. Ugh, what an annoying character. I hated Bill's AA storyline. I felt like he was wasting everyone's time. He's not an alcoholic, he just had to discover he was "addicted" to Virginia. Bleh.

The Affair - On the fence, but good chance I'm done. I watched the first episode this season and was like eh. Too much Noah. Don't care about his prison PTSD.

[maraleia]

My latest DVR deletion is Once Upon a Time. I really love Lana Parrilla but the story is so damn irritating and pedestrian these days.

I also gave up on Insecure because I didn't care about the romance side of the show.

[Guest]

I just saw a commercial that the Walking Dead mid season finale is tonight.  I guess I'm done with it because I've dropped it cold turkey and didn't even think about the fact that it was still on.  I haven't even thought about heading to the forum to see if its gotten any better or not.  No angst over dropping it at all.

The magical cure.  I knew from spoilers that ep3 this season would be all monologuer all the time.  Skipped it.  Forgot to come back for ep4 and didn't even realize that enough weeks had passed for it to be mid season finale time.

[Bruinsfan]

On 11/23/2016 at 6:29 PM, ratgirlagogo said:

Holy shit I feel stupid.  Until this minute that I read your post and then looked it up on IMDB - I did not even realize that I was watching two different actors.  

Damn, you must have thought that singular Ashmore guy worked 24/7/365 to be in all the shows and movies he's done!

[SmithW6079]

On 11/6/2016 at 9:24 PM, cleo said:

Blackish. It has just gotten too preachy. I've only made it through 3 episodes this season. Tired of most of the episodes being like A Very Special Episode.

I get it, the issues are important, but i don't watch comedies to be hit over the head with a sledgehammer that Racism is Real.

Last season overall they did much better at navigating issues without me feeling like I was being lectured.

It's a shame, bc I love the cast.

For me, it wasn't so much the preachiness, but that Dre is such a fucking immature baby, and no matter the issue, he always makes it about him.

"Fresh Off the Boat" is getting there for me. I'm finding Jessica more and more unlikable and unpleasant to watch. 

[paulvdb]

15 hours ago, aradia22 said:

Smallville. I stopped watching when Lois appeared. I liked Chloe and I could have gotten over that ship if I hadn't hated the actress they cast as Lois and her characterization.

Lois wasn't the only reason for me, but I stopped watching Smallville not too long after she appeared on the show. I might have stayed longer if they had cast someone else or just not had the character at all.

[TaraS1]

I think I officially watched my last episode of Designated Survivor this week.  I tried to stick it out for Maggie Q, but that show is just a big ol' jumbled up mess.

[Archery]

Neither the combined beauty of Priyanka Chopra and Yasmine al Massri and the awesomeness of Aunjunie Ellis can keep me watching the dreck that is Quantico.  High school sex obsessions, incompetent federal agencies, sophomore-play-level "deep" speeches. Really, there are no senior Special Agents with actual training in terrorism investigations??  No Department of Homeland Security or Joint Terrorism Task Force?  There is nothing about this show that is authentic -- it's like the writers don't even have access to Google. It's angry-making, so, after 10 episodes, goodbye.

[Neurochick]

2 hours ago, Archery said:

Neither the combined beauty of Priyanka Chopra and Yasmine al Massri and the awesomeness of Aunjunie Ellis can keep me watching the dreck that is Quantico.  High school sex obsessions, incompetent federal agencies, sophomore-play-level "deep" speeches. Really, there are no senior Special Agents with actual training in terrorism investigations??  No Department of Homeland Security or Joint Terrorism Task Force?  There is nothing about this show that is authentic -- it's like the writers don't even have access to Google. It's angry-making, so, after 10 episodes, goodbye.

I completely agree with this.  About ten years ago, there was a brouhaha regarding some (I think) slash fanfic that took place in New Orleans.  Apparently the fic had stereotypical cookie cutter black characters (in regards to Voodoo I believe).  I remember reading all the back and forth discussions and thought it was stupid that they were fighting over fanfic and said something like, "why are you getting so bent out of shape over some fanfic?"  A response came back with something like this, "if you're going to put something out there for people to read, at least do some research."  

That's why I stopped watching Quantico last season; to me it felt lazy like someone didn't even care about the story, as if they were thinking, "well Priyanka Chopra is so beautiful, who the hell will notice that the plot stinks?"

[zxy556575]

5 hours ago, Archery said:

There is nothing about this show that is authentic -- it's like the writers don't even have access to Google. It's angry-making, so, after 10 episodes, goodbye.

Same with me and Designated Survivor. Was it meant to be an allegory? A fantasy? The fever dream of a child who knows nothing about government? Nope, it was supposed to be realistic and I couldn't hang with that.

[vibeology]

Designated Survivor was such a disappointment because of how sloppy it is with the truth. I'm a Canadian and I am 100% confident I know more about the US government than every writer of that show combined. It's painful. I was grateful when my PVR missed a recording because it was just so easy to move on. 

[magdalene]

I dropped The Walking Dead this season.  Good riddance to this crap.

[Christina]

Having no idea this thread existed, I just spent the last hour laughing my ass off. Unfortunately, not literally, but still, you all are great.

I've bailed on so many shows that others have insisted are good, that I still don't get Seinfeld and Friends jokes. I tried watching Sex and The City several times, but found it to be crap. Someone suggested that I shouldn't watch it on whatever station was airing it, because they cut too much out, and they gave me their DVDs. Still couldn't do it. I've barely made it through the first episodes of all the new shows, and try to give it at least three. Bastard Executioner was one that turned the page on episode three, and I enjoyed the rest of the year. Still enjoy The Real O'Neals, but find the actor who plays Kenny atrocious this season, and it is probably colored by the interview where he showed himself to be an arrogant prick, and outed someone for being gay. He's also showing his real age and not coming across as a teenager very well this season. Marcia Plimpton and Jay Ferguson have had me as life-long fans for a while now, and Mary Hollis Imboden joins them. I like how they are writing Aunt Jodi, but they seem to not be sure what to do with Kenny.

I've actually found that I dislike so many more shows than I like anymore. Maybe I'm just a negative person lately, but it seems like all the scripted shows are trying to be edgy instead of employing valid writing techniques. There is a reason why some shows hold up to the test of time and others can't keep it going for over a year, and it seems to me it's because the networks get involved instead of trusting the show runners to do what they did best in season one. Sure, we'll give you another season, but you have to x, y, and z even if it doesn't fit in with the characters. A hundred years ago, Roseanne was ordered to film at Disneyland, even though the Connors were unlikely to ever make that trip. Those episodes just didn't fit in, and it showed. But ABC or whatever had an ownership interest in Disney, so all the shows on the station had to film there.

The Americans has allowed the show runners to decide how much time they need to tell the story, and it shows. Breaking Bad was another one where they were allowed to say they needed a certain amount of episodes to complete the story, which resulted in only a few being bad. The networks pick up a show based on the pilot, then interfere unnecessarily and ruin it. Some shows have just gone on too long, NCIS being one for me. Even though killing off Ragnar in Vikings makes sense, I fear that may ruin the show for me. I have no interest in Ivar the psycho, even though it's clear that I'm meant to be excited about his revenge. I haven't given up without seeing the next episodes, but I'm also not looking forward to them.

[Rosiejuliemom]

I don't watch football games anymore. Reading League of Denial sent me down the research rabbit-hole and absolutely ruined the sport for me.

Sleepy Hollow got dropped after the season 3 finale. I love Tom Mison, but no Abbie Mills is a deal breaker.

Once Upon a Time has until the end of the season to suck me back in, or I'm out.

The Walking Dead...oh man, The Walking Dead. There have been times where I wanted to give up on this show, especially after this season's premiere and some of the following episodes. I don't agree with a lot of the decisions that have been made regarding character development and focus, the show has some pretty bad pacing problems, and is sometimes too reliant on shock value rather than good storytelling. That said, there are still episodes that remind me of why I loved the show in the first place and continue to put up with the not-so-good. I'm probably with that one until the bitter end.

[blueray]

On 11/24/2016 at 6:44 PM, ramble said:

Hey don't feel dumb I only know because of my teenager. LOL. We were watching Warehouse 13 & she asked if Jinks & Iceman from X-Men were the same guy & then Googled it & educated me on the twins careers. I still get their names mixed up, but the Ashmore in WH13 & now on Killjoys tends to be my favorite, although any  actor who has been on Fringe automatically gets a little love from me. 

I also didn't know they were twins until I was looking at the one who was in Smallville and learned that he wasn't the same one that was in x-men.