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I think that was exactly their intent. And I don't think the writers were idiots. I found most of this season worked just fine. I think he was referring to Jon as a broken thing, because he's not a bastard.

Okay HBO, I know we said we wanted more male nudity to balance out Game of Thrones, but that wasn't what I had in mind! All levity aside, some of those scenes were among the most horrific things I've ever watched, only the other stuff has mainly happened to fictional people. This was incredibly intense television. All I can think about poor Ludmilla is that no one really explained to her how contaminated her husband was, and what that could do to her baby. Although the nurse did tell her 30 minutes only, and not to touch him. Obviously the staff was completely overwhelmed by the number and seriousness of the cases coming in.

Not my quote, but I'll comment anyway. I think the writers probably had some of that in mind, and I don't think that's giving them too much credit.

I mostly liked Dany, and to me, she sounded like a tyrant. Also, Jon's voice was raised but I wouldn't call that screaming. But as I say, agree to disagree, so this is my final comment on that point. I don't want to keep repeating myself. Yara stole her Iron Fleet. It was Euron who built a fleet on a bunch of islands without trees. Except that he was already named King by all the other nobles there. Only Sansa held out. Makes perfect sense to me. Hell, they could've chosen anyone they wanted. It wasn't that Bran had that great of a story so much as he knew the stories of everyone who'd ever lived. At least that's what I took away from it. Ymmv of course. Part of the Wall fell down, not all of it. It's hundreds of miles long. And the whole Night's Watch thing was just to spare Jon's life. When he got to Castle Black, there were wildlings there, not brothers of the Nights' Watch. Oh, that makes sense. I apologize for misreading your post. D'oh! Yeah, all those people were cancelling in protest after Ned died, too.

Eh, none of them were quick enough to think of it in time. Sansa was faster on the draw than they were. That is exactly correct. He had Viserion cut a giant hole in the wall at Eastwatch By The Sea, but the Wall is hundreds of miles long. It was probably the steps leading up to the Red Keep.

He wasn't screaming, although I'll agree with the chastising bit. But her opinion would be the ultimate one, and eventually he'd disagree with something. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one, because she sounded like an absolute tyrant to me. Because honorable Brienne would be the worst person to put in charge of rumors and disinformation.

Everyone else had voted by the time Sansa spoke up. For future Kingsmoots, this would be a problem, but for this one, the North was not yet independent when they agreed to make Bran king.

I thought she came from a bit farther south than Winterfell? If so, she was probably fine. I thought Jon stabbed her in the heart. Depends on the angle of the knife. From their hereditary rulers, the Starks. There were no slaves in King's Landing, but she clearly believes she liberated the people there.

Until Rhaegal and Missandei were killed. She stopped listening to them completely by then. Maybe she'd already killed someone with green eyes?

Except for those she thought still needed to be freed, like those in Winterfell. And the last episode, and the one before that, too. She pretty much stopped giving their opinions any weight after Jorah died.

Jaime was the only member of the family who treated Tyrion well. Not only well, but he clearly loved Tyrion, and Tyrion loved him. He never plotted against Tyrion, and, in fact, saved his life (remember the end of Season 4?). Arya had seen too much and done too much to live in polite society again. Her exploring the world was a fitting ending for her.

Killing someone should never feel right to a decent person like Jon, no matter how just it might've been. And again, opinions differ. To many of us, it was art. Imperfect art, perhaps, but still art. Only part of the Wall was destroyed, the part at Eastwatch by the Sea. The section at Castle Black, where Jon was sent, was still standing. She's going to explore the unknown part of the world, and her skills will keep her safe. I'm fine with that. Looked to me like part of it was missing, and that wasn't going to grow back.

Which is the same, imo. She was including Jon at the time, but she'd have eventually decided he didn't get a say either, if he'd disagreed with her.

'I am the only one who gets to decide what's right and what isn't' sounds like a tyrant to me. Some people really do fail upwards, don't they? I feel really dirty for thinking he was kinda hot. Yup, Sansa was the smartest person in that room. I did wonder about that. Who kept both the Dothraki and the Unsullied in check after Dany's death.

That wasn't a perfect ending, and I didn't necessarily love all of it, but in the end, it was a satisfying and bittersweet conclusion. Someone with the ability to see the mistakes of the past and learn from them now rules Westeros. And not being consumed with ambition or lust for power, stands a good chance of ruling justly. The characters ended up where they needed to be, both for themselves and for the good of Westeros. Dany's full evolution into a tyrant was revealed both in that Triumph of the Will-esque address to her army (from whom, exactly, does Winterfell need to be liberated? Hmmm . . .) and in her conversation with Jon, which boiled down to it's my way or dracarys for everyone. That shot of her with Drogon's wings unfurling behind her was absolutely stunning. Drogon nudging Dany's body, trying to make her get up, kinda broke my heart. As did Brienne filling in Jaime's pages in the White Book. The throwback to the chair arranging scene from, I believe, Season 3 amused me very much, but I'm disappointed that I'm never going to hear the end of the ass/honeycomb/brothel story. Sansa got the free and independent North that she, and I'd say all the other Northerners, wanted. If the other heads of the noble houses at that council had possessed her sense, they'd have demanded the same before agreeing to Bran being king. She outsmarted all their asses in the end. The only thing which really bothered me was the time jump between Drogon flying off with Dany's body and Tyrion waking up in his cell weeks later. I'd like to have seen how Jon avoided being killed by Grey Worm when his murder of Dany was discovered. I guess maybe some of his men got to the melted throne room first? I also noticed something which seems like a gap earlier as well: after confronting Grey Worm while he's executing prisoners, Jon says he's going to see the Queen, but when next we see him, he's climbing those steps lined with Unsullied, and he passes Grey Worm at the top. Clearly at least a little time has passed, but I wonder what was meant to happen in between.