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  1. saoirse

    You: The Book

    This is the spot to discuss the book - You by Carolyn Kepnes! Beware, entering here may spoil you!
  2. On the comic book front, I WANT to read the comic books! But, my oh my, my budget does not support getting back into comic book collection. Issue #1 is available for free from Kindle, but it just leaves me wanting the rest -which aren't free (huh, it's like Amazon planned that, or something...)
  3. Theon, Theon, Theon. I thought he deserved his own thread because we rarely see Balon or Yara. I think Theon is one of the most fascinating characters on the show, and has gone through one of the most complete character transformations on the show. I'm not surprised he doesn't get more of a response beyond fan hate for his past horrible decisions, but I wish Alfie Allen got more notice for what has been a consistently superb performance - perhaps the strongest consistent performance of anyone on the show. Theon is a cautionary tale on revenge culture. Revenge culture dominates Game of Thrones, as so many fans want to see the Starks make the Lannisters pay, or want to see Tyrion get payback. Through Theon, we get what should be the ultimate revenge - a complete psychological and physical torture of the man who killed devoted Stark soldiers, took Winterfell under false pretenses, betrayed a man who was essentially his brother, and killed two children (and likely the only reason he didn't kill Rickon and Bran is that that he didn't know where they were). Yet it's not satisfying. It's ugly, it's horrific, it's unseemly. To many viewers, it's not the right kind of revenge, which leads to questions like what is the right kind of revenge? The story is extremely difficult to watch, but it's also one that has made sense narratively and never gone through the jarring changes some other long-running stories have had. Even now, with Reek, we continue to see Theon's past haunt his present, meaning he can't escape even into the cruel, false life Ramsay Bolton has created for him. For me Ramsay is the weakest part of this storyline, but Alfie and Iwen do have chemistry together. I'll never forget the scene of Theon being baptized into the Drowned God religion when he returned to the Iron Islands. The scene was both beautiful and highly disturbing. Theon's relationship with Yara also fascinates me. I wish we saw more of it.
  4. This thread has spoiler news and discussion with Book Talk discussion. Spoilers for the show include leaked scripts and footage. There are spoilers for the show and the books in this topic.
  5. First of all, I will be perfectly okay with this topic title getting replaced. I saw there wasn't one, and I figured that it would be needed. I'm not going to watch on account that I don't have subscription cable . . . but that didn't stop me from posting a similar thread when the Doom Patrol forum (now collapsed) came out. I haven't read the books in years, but I know it's basically Garth Ennis doing what Garth Ennis does best . . . taking the absolute piss out of the superhero genre. He was able to do that back when he wrote Hitman for DC Comics, but he goes full-tilt with The Boys. Art is from co-creator Darick Robertson, who got his degree in comic satire from two notable books: Transmetropolitan (with Warren Ellis) and Happy! (a four-issue miniseries with Grant Morrison that wound up getting two seasons on SyFy). I'm willing to bet there will be divergences from the source material, but I'm still recommending new viewers to read the books. Also, while I doubt the "Herogasm" arc will be filmed (basically, it's a week-long super-powered fuckfest), I will concede the series probably won't be bound by traditional standards and practices, which means The Boys might be more Garth than Happy! And considering what Happy! got away with, that might be something to see.
  6. Originally these links were in the book thread, but there is so much fantastic information already out about the sequel to The Handmaid's Tale that I thought it would be great to have a place to openly discuss them. The book will be published on Sept 10th, but excepts and synopsis's are already out. This takes place 15 years after the book ends. WOW. Warning, as the tags indicate, this will contain spoilers, possibly to be used in the show, and also, this as yet is an unpublished book, so proceed only if you don't care about that. The Washington Post is the most complete so far. Narrators are mostly Lydia, and June's two daughters. June is infamous, a wanted terrorist, and only makes a brief appearance. "But Aunt Lydia is not the only narrator of “The Testaments.” Interlaced among her journal entries are the testimonies of two young women: one raised in Gilead, the other in Canada. Their mysterious identities fuel much of the story’s suspense — and electrify the novel with an extra dose of melodrama. Together, this trio of voices allows Atwood to include broader details about how other countries respond to the Republic of Gilead. Freed from the intense but narrow constraints of Offred’s point of view in “The Handmaid’s Tale,” “The Testaments” sketches out protest movements abroad, an underground railroad to ferry women north, the internecine conflicts rotting out the center of Gilead, and the Republic’s efforts to manipulate its image on the world stage." NPR has part of a chapter up. "At our school, pink was for spring and summer, plum was for fall and winter, white was for special days: Sundays and celebrations. Arms covered, hair covered, skirts down to the knee before you were five and no more than two inches above the ankle after that, because the urges of men were terrible things and those urges needed to be curbed. The man eyes that were always roaming here and there like the eyes of tigers, those searchlight eyes, needed to be shielded from the alluring and indeed blinding power of us — of our shapely or skinny or fat legs, of our graceful or knobbly or sausage arms, of our peachy or blotchy skins, of our entwining curls of shining hair or our coarse unruly pelts or our straw-like wispy braids, it did not matter. Whatever our shapes and features, we were snares and enticements despite ourselves, we were the innocent and blameless causes that through our very nature could make men drunk with lust, so that they'd stagger and lurch and topple over the verge — The verge of what? we wondered. Was it like a cliff? — and go plunging down in flames, like snowballs made of burning sulphur hurled by the angry hand of God. We were custodians of an invaluable treasure that existed, unseen, inside us; we were precious flowers that had to be kept safely inside glass houses, or else we would be ambushed and our petals would be torn off and our treasure would be stolen and we would be ripped apart and trampled by the ravenous men who might lurk around any corner, out there in the wide sharp-edged sin-ridden world." Vanity Fair has a review. June, aka Offred—played on the TV series by Elisabeth Moss—“makes only the briefest of appearances, speaking a scant three sentences. But she has attained almost mythic status in Gilead, where she’s been declared a terrorist and enemy of the state: The regime has already made at least two assassination attempts on her life.”
  7. Here's a topic for questions about the comic and how it (may) relate to the show, I tagged it as spoilers but this isn't a "spoiler" topic for actual show info, just spoilers in the sense that these themes and stories may be played out on the show.
  8. This is intended as a thread for the broadcast show spoilers. I decided to add book talk spoilers as well, since it's highly unlikely someone would click on a show spoiler thread and object to some relatively minor book spoilers. Mods please switch it around if you wish. Just found a pretty big spoiler in a general article about the show, obviously the reviewer has seen at least one more episode than we have. http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/05/22/a-cunning-adaptation-of-the-handmaids-tale Since it's a first post I'll do the caution thing here, this is a show spoiler, not just from the book, so stop now if you don't want to know. Note, that article also includes book spoilers. - - - Wow, they really are bringing him back. I'm not sure how I feel about that, hopefully he's realized by now that men taking care of women is seriously not the point here and grown up some.
  9. I figured that since Arrow has a forum, there should be a thread for Oliver Queen in comic books. For me, I have some exposure to Green Arrow . . . mostly through Brad Metzler and Judd Winick's runs on the book; the former exploring the will of a hero (Ollie) who wound up coming back to life. I also have the "Hard Traveling Heroes" collection from the Seventies . . . that's the run of Green Lantern where Ollie and pal Hal Jordan explore America and the hot button issues of the day. From what I can remember, that's also when Ollie became a hardcore liberal and grew the sweet mustache and goatee, becoming truer to the Robin Hood myth. I'm not following the "new52" version of Ollie, but I've heard good things about what writer Jeff Lemire has done for the book. What stories have you guys read about Green Arrow? Do you like his current look, or did you think he should've stayed a Batman knockoff with an archery motif?
  10. I don't think the show did a very good job with Bran's story this past season (other than "The Lion and the Rose," which, unsurprisingly, was written by GRRM), but Bran's journey has been one of my favorite parts of the show. I think the first few seasons were the most powerful, as we still saw him with his family, and at Winterfell. Isaac Hempstead Wright added such emotional power to scenes like Bran begging Theon not to kill Rodrik. Even last season, when he had to tell Rickon goodbye, we saw some of this. Season 4, there was his almost seeing Jon again, but the rest was a little too disconnected emotionally. I sometimes hear people say Bran is arrogant or that he uses the people who are with him, and I can understand that to a point, but he's also a boy who was slowly but surely left behind by everyone he loved, and now only has an identity based on prophecies and what he thinks destiny wants to be. He had to make that break once and for all when he left Jon behind, and I wonder how much of his humanity will be left.
  11. Brought over from episode 1 Dulcinea thread since it discusses book specific things. A story told on screen will require different things than one told in print. This is an adaptation so changes an adjustments will need to be made in order to effectively relay information. With a few changes and two or three minutes of screen time, we have some big world building, tons of character development and exposition and set ups for future possible plots where in the novels this stuff was laid out over hundreds of pages and across five different books and counting. Space is harsh, space is dangerous, there are pirates who don't hesitate to attack and kill making it very dangerous to answer distress calls. Then there's Holden, a seemingly unambitious man who has trouble following the rules and often thinks in black and white without fully considering the consequences of his decisions. In a few short scenes, we know who Holden is, which isn't yet different than who he is in the books. The few changes are not relevant and don't cause big changes to the overarching plot. Naomi is not a change to the plot, though the way the interactions went on the Donnager is different. Naomi is a seeming mystery. She's mega smart and has several advanced degrees in the show and the books, and yet she's working on a shit-ship like the Canterbury. There has to be a reason, right? Just like there was a reason that the once ambitious Holden found himself comfortable working on the Cant for five years. The careful viewer would already see that Naomi's neck tattoo is enough to make one question whether or not she has a connection with OPA. In Leviathan Wakes, the Roci crew works directly with OPA. In later books, the pasts of the various characters are examined. We learn much about Naomi. We also continue to learn about the OPA. The first few episodes treat them like only a terrorist organization. It's similar to in the books. Until we learn more. So far, I really think the adaptation is working well. All of the changes make sense. The characters are roughly as I imagined. The only major issue I've had is the crash couches. They are such weaklings when they should be big things and I'm annoyed by the characters turning their heads and moving around when in high g burns. I'm guessing the process of filming and editing required the crash couches to be barely visible around the cast so I can live with that.
  12. This is the place for comparisons between the new version, the old version, and the books. Please restrict that type of conversation to here, this includes any 'but it's different in the books' comments or variations thereof.
  13. Discuss The Books Here!
  14. So...who do you think should sit the Iron Throne? Who do you think will sit the Iron Throne? Post any suggestion that you want. It can be serious or silly (Hot Pie for the Iron Throne!). You can even use deceased characters or characters who have forsworn their lands (Whitecloaks, Blackcloaks, exiles, etc...). You can make this character king or queen x years after or x years before the series. If you want, you can extend this idea to your ideal Small Council. The positions, if you may have forgotten, are: Hand of the King Lord Commander of the Kingsguard Master of Law Master of Coin Master of Whispers Master of Ships Grand Maester
  15. This is a thread for book readers to discuss the book freely without worrying about spoiling non-book readers.
  16. Hi all! stillshimpy has made the great climb and is joining our reader ranks. I've offered her (and any other Unsullied who may decide to join her) a safe place to discuss the books over here. It doesn't mean you can't interact with them! By all means, do. I, myself, will be starting a reread of my own. Feel free to join in the discussion (with no spoilers past where they've read). Just don't spoil things to come, or lead them on, etc. You know the drill by now. :) ETA: ANYTHING DISCUSSED PAST WHERE SHIMPY IS IN HER READ NEEDS SPOILER TAGS. I repeat, ANYTHING DISCUSSED PAST WHERE SHIMPY IS IN HER READ NEEDS SPOILER TAGS. ETA2: PLEASE SPOILER TAG ANYTHING FROM SEASON 5 AND BEYOND. THANKS! ETA3: We're taking things in a little bit different direction now, and starting a show rewatch in this thread. I'll update the title with the current season in rewatch! :)
  17. Or, should I say Kin-Layer? Eh? Ehhhhhhhhh? Eh. Jaime is the character I've done the biggest turnaround on (books and show). I fought against it for so long, but Nikolaj Coster-Waldau is just so good, and now I'm on Team Jaime even though yes he almost killed my precious Bran.
  18. He's little! He has fingers! He's Littlefinger!
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