I agree with you that we do not know why it was said to Chelsea and under what circumstances. That is a fair assessment. It sounded pretty harsh, according to Chelsea, so it does make one ponder why a woman would say such a thing to Chelsea. Chelsea doesn't have a history of lying or exaggerating so, her credibility is what makes me believe the comment was said in a somewhat harsh manner.
@druzy or @Mkay did Chelsea tweet anything about it? I know she doesn't always go into much on social media about what transpired on the show, but I wonder if maybe someone asked her about Adumb's mother's comment.
If you are speaking about Adumb's visitation, that is simply not true. Plenty of lawyers and non-lawyers know that plenty of children can be harmed and have been harmed and the courts have allowed a parent to retain custody and/or visitation. I see plenty of people at my job who have committed some questionable acts such as child abuse or neglect and the courts have not revoked their parental rights. If you are talking about the grandparent's visitation, per South Dakota law, grandparent's have rights and the Lind's have had those rights established through the courts because Chelsea initiated it. Just like a parent with visitation rights, it will take a lot for a court to sever the rights of the grandparent's. It wouldn't be over one incident. It takes a lot more than violating one court order or committing a wrong to have anyone's parental rights severed as has been proven on this show time and time again and in the real world.
I don't believe any physical harm has come to Aubree in all that time. However, the Linds have violated the court order on numerous occasions when they allowed Adumb to have visitation with Aubree without them being there to supervise. That in itself was a dangerous move and that is harmful. Adumb may not get physical with Aubree (yet), but his verbal and emotional abuse is just as harmful.
The original poster is stating Chelsea originally initiated the order long ago, not in the most recent court matter. The most recent court matter changed the visitation from the original order. The Linds originally had Aubree every other weekend. So, in that respect, the court did curtail their visitation significantly and rightly so without cutting them off completely. The Linds are losing more and more visitation due to their constant violations of the court order.
Chelsea did initiate the original order back when Chelsea took Adumb to court over his constant violations and his many arrests. Chelsea's fears were that Aubree would not be in safe hands. She felt it would be better to have the Linds supervise his visits. That was over five years ago.
As per the law, Mr. and Mrs. Lind are entitled to visitation, but that is only if the parent with custody chooses to offer the grandparents that right. They never initiated visitation rights. That was Chelsea's doing. Initially it was informal, but Chelsea gave them a regular visitation order when she filed the paperwork asking the courts to curtail Adumb's visitation.
Mrs. Lind can think all she wants that she was doing a good job. We don't know what is in her mind. She hasn't spoken on camera. However, her actions speak differently. She was not doing a good job nor was she respecting the court orders when she continuously violated the terms of the agreement to keep her son from taking Aubree away from her home. It is clear why her son thinks he can throw the middle finger at the law and the courts. She seems to have led by example.
It was warranted. Not every grandmother would violate a court order if they truly wanted to continue visitation. When a court orders and mandates a person do something, you better do it. But for her stupid actions, she is now down to one weekend per month with Aubree. That is likely what set her off to say "grow up" to Chelsea. It was probably said out of anger because the stupid imbecile was likely upset at the consequences issued upon her by the judge for her constant violation of the court order. If you are old enough to be a grandmother, you better realize you can't fuck with the courts. This is one major reason why I give that woman the side-eye because someone who has violated a court order on numerous occasions by putting their grandchild in harm's way, deserves having her visitation time reduced. It is also another reason why I don't give her credibility regarding the remark, "Grow up" and I certainly do not believe she said it in some harmless fashion.
Like, dislike, or hate Chelsea, IMO it is rather unfair to change or alter the facts of what has transpired to fit one's narrative. I despise Jenelle, but for all the times that it has been pointed out that she needs to have her rights terminated, I am there defending her (which really is hard to do) to point out there is simply nothing that has happened that warrants such a thing to occur.