Sweet Fellowship: Duggars and Friends (aka the Bates Family and Other Featured Families Thread)

[GeeGolly]

1 hour ago, SMama said:

SGirl is eleven, in sixth grade and working on a more challenging project for finals. She is constructing a replica of a Mesopotamian Lyre, including a research paper on its origins, uses, etc. What the heck kind of university assigns such elementary school level assignments? I wonder about the teacher’s (notice she did not write professor) credentials.

I would have thought she might write Professor Teacher, like Neurology Doctor.

[Temperance]

Jana shouldn't be involved in this mess. She was never officially involved with this man.  The Duggars had him in their home and he ate dinner with their family. I don't remember him being a jerk about not being involved with Jana, but he did seem interested in his five minutes of fame.  I think he should be referred to by the press as a "friend of the family" and not Jana's alledged anything. 

[Sew Sumi]

Jana's only mentioned in that article for the clickbait.

Edited December 18, 2018 by Sew Sumi

[BradandJanet]

💙 He is literally one of the most hard working modern day people I know!       (Jill Rodrigues on son Timothy)

 

Bad homeschooling strikes again. How many people does Jill know who are not "modern day"?  Wouldn't those people be dead?

The junior high clock painting matches the Rodrigueses' decor, but why not at least put some kind of frame around it?

[Churchhoney]

Just to refresh our memories, here's what Caleb Williams posted about the Jana rumor. .... It's mostly neutral-sounding, I guess. And rumors bandied about like that are clearly annoying when they're about you, I'm sure ... But at the same time, I think if somebody had ever publicly responded to a rumor about dating me with "Read my lips...I am not dating Churchhoney," I would have felt a smidge insulted....I mean, the "Read my lips" isn't a necessary part of that statement. "We're not dating, just family friends" would do fine, seems to me. And who ever says "Read my lips" without some anger or umbrage of some kind? Which does throw a bit of shade at the other person, seems to me....

Anyway, here's what CW posted about the Jana rumor -- .... 

https://thestir.cafemom.com/celebrities/209776/jana-duggars-rumored-boyfriend-caleb/210411/fans_arent_ready_to_let/3

[Sew Sumi]

Ah, it was FB. My bad. 

[DangerousMinds]

1 hour ago, Future Cat Lady said:

Nothing will change bracause the religious leaders are men and they want to keep their power over women.

Aren’t they really saying that women have all the true power, if the men aren’t able to resist them?

[Churchhoney]

9 minutes ago, DangerousMinds said:

Aren’t they really saying that women have all the true power, if the men aren’t able to resist them?

Yep. But they choose to believe that it's satanic power, apparently.  ;  )         I mean, they're women. It has to be satanic, right? ha That damn Eve and all her daughters who follow after. 

Edited December 19, 2018 by Churchhoney

[ginger90]

16 minutes ago, DangerousMinds said:

Aren’t they really saying that women have all the true power, if the men aren’t able to resist them?

This is why men as headship is a bunch of bull.

[Future Cat Lady]

18 minutes ago, DangerousMinds said:

Aren’t they really saying that women have all the true power, if the men aren’t able to resist them?

That's what is so fucked up about all this. The men are poor little helpless creatures that can't help it, so the only thing to do is to punish the women for it. Never occurred to them that they're the ones with the problem and that they're the one who should control themselves. Bullshit!

It's always about men controlling women's body and sexuality for their own gain. 

[SMama]

3 hours ago, Normades said:

Well, teacher is easier to spell.

🤣😂 Yes, this is Jill Rod we are talking about.

Edited December 19, 2018 by SMama

[BitterApple]

Baby-faced Caleb won't fare too well in prison. He'll get what's coming to him.

[sixlets]

Yaaay!!  For Marjorie.  She really dodged a bullet with her former beloved.  

JillR has reached a whole new level of stupid.  Who refers to their child as a "modern-day person"?  As opposed to what?  A pilgrim?  And because she has to put Jesus into every single thing, she mentions Tim's mountains pointing upward to Heaven.  If a mountain didn't point up, it would be a valley.  Dipshit.  The thought of her teaching her children is just frightening.  Once again, she's bringing down the curve for the entire country.

[kokapetl]

Did we ever learn what the Maxhell word of the week was?

[Churchhoney]

2 minutes ago, sixlets said:

Yaaay!!  For Marjorie.  She really dodged a bullet with her former beloved.  

JillR has reached a whole new level of stupid.  Who refers to their child as a "modern-day person"?  As opposed to what?  A pilgrim?  And because she has to put Jesus into every single thing, she mentions Tim's mountains pointing upward to Heaven.  If a mountain didn't point up, it would be a valley.  Dipshit.  The thought of her teaching her children is just frightening.  Once again, she's bringing down the curve for the entire country.

I think it's part of the same dogwhistle as the "motherhood ought not to be despised" thing in the Jingle (and Jer) message about motherhood the other day. Modern-day people are most of us in the now evil world who are lazy, spit on mothers, etc. etc. While the the Duggs, Vuolos, Rodrigui, etc. are the tiny tiny remnant of true Christians who are upholding the old traditional values and living as they ought -- covering female knees with leggings and/or pillow slips and all that. And they recognize each other through these little stupid phrases -- We are in the "modern-day" world but not the hellbound masses who are of it! We are not among the hellbound masses by whom motherhood is despised! 

Etc. 

h/t to @Jeeves for the dogwhistle theory. 

6 minutes ago, kokapetl said:

Did we ever learn what the Maxhell word of the week was?

Looks like it was "purpose." Some of our astute colleagues said that, if I remember correctly. Don't remember who, though. Good call, however. 

 

https://articles.titus2.com/purpose/

PURPOSE

This was posted on November 21, 2018 by Steve Maxwell.

We each have a need for purpose, which is no surprise since God created us that way. What is your experience with people who know that they know their purpose in Christ and live it? Don’t their days have meaning and direction? Aren’t they energized by it?

If the Lord’s will isn’t our purpose in life, mankind turns to the world. Therefore, may we live and breathe to do the Lord’s will and bring Him glory. “And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him” (Colossians 3:17).

The Lord bought us with the most precious substance, His blood. We are His. He is to be the focus and very purpose of our lives. “For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.” (1 Corinthians 6:20). Jesus embodies this with the Father.

To focus on His will gives us meaning and direction. He is our leader and the full Authority directing us (BTW, we are commanded to live under the laws of the land). He will use our every minute according to His good and perfect will if we will let Him (read choose it).

“Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant, Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is well pleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.” (Hebrews 13:20-21).

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[Fostersmom]

As crappy as Timothy's clock looks, I know I did some lame ass projects my freshman year of college. Hell, I was a special ed major and I did some equally crappy projects beyond my freshman year. My roommate was a National Merit Scholar and she took ice skating one semester as an English major. His art skills might be lacking, but who knows what the real idea was behind the assignment or how he presented it. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one. 

[sondraK]

20 minutes ago, Fostersmom said:

As crappy as Timothy's clock looks, I know I did some lame ass projects my freshman year of college. Hell, I was a special ed major and I did some equally crappy projects beyond my freshman year. My roommate was a National Merit Scholar and she took ice skating one semester as an English major. His art skills might be lacking, but who knows what the real idea was behind the assignment or how he presented it. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one. 

I give him a break as well.He seems like a nice kid,considering the way he was raised by his narc mom and non working dad.And the lack of a real education he's had.I wish him the best

[Catlyn]

Tim could have benefitted from Bob Ross' method or the older German gentleman who proceeded him. They both had a great, easy method for happy mountains, to say nothing of trees and clouds.

[Churchhoney]

15 minutes ago, sondraK said:

I give him a break as well.He seems like a nice kid,considering the way he was raised by his narc mom and non working dad.And the lack of a real education he's had.I wish him the best

And it's very possible he's never painted before. Or hasn't painted since he was 8 or something.  They might have had some kind of class where you had to express yourself or even express yourself in a way you'd never tried before --  about your feelings regarding God's beautiful creation or something. And a non-artist trying to convey feelings on a clock face about those pointy mountains around Spokane, the likes of which he may never have seen before?....That would have been entirely too tough to capture in anything like a skilled way for a neophyte...

[kokapetl]

More people fucked up by religious sexual repression. No one will learn anything from this. 

[BetyBee]

10 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

Looks like it was "purpose." Some of our astute colleagues said that, if I remember correctly. Don't remember who, though. Good call, however. 

https://articles.titus2.com/purpose/

PURPOSE

 

It was "purpose"????  Didn't he say that old people don't have it?  Am I remembering correctly?  Because I'm old and my life definitely has purpose.  What a jerk!

Edited December 19, 2018 by BetyBee

[Annb67]

Hey Duggar Fam...you might want to rethink your life choices considering one family member, one person that you let hang out with your your damn kids and the leader of your religion have all been accused of sexual assault. What the hell is wrong with these morons?

[Mindthinkr]

13 minutes ago, Annb67 said:

Hey Duggar Fam...you might want to rethink your life choices considering one family member, one person that you let hang out with your your damn kids and the leader of your religion have all been accused of sexual assault. What the hell is wrong with these morons?

Seems he might not be the only one. https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2018/12/blind-item-6_18.html

[tabloidlover]

Why is this poor child having to wash all the dishes when there is a DISHWASHER right next to him???

 

[crazycatlady58]

3 minutes ago, tabloidlover said:

Why is this poor child having to wash all the dishes when there is a DISHWASHER right next to him???

 

The dishwasher may be broken or it could be the good China that cannot be put in a dishwasher. Yeah, I doubt it is neither but that's all I can think of 

[tabloidlover]

I was thinking more along the lines of Jill is a lazy ass.   

*sarcasm intended 

[Churchhoney]

1 hour ago, BetyBee said:

It was "purpose"????  Didn't he say that old people don't have it?  Am I remembering correctly?  Because I'm old and my life definitely has purpose.  What a jerk!

My sentiments exactly! 

53 minutes ago, Annb67 said:

Hey Duggar Fam...you might want to rethink your life choices considering one family member, one person that you let hang out with your your damn kids and the leader of your religion have all been accused of sexual assault. What the hell is wrong with these morons?

It was the fault of the so-called victims? .... And it was all part of God's plan, anyway? 

That's what their religious leader tells them. 

14 minutes ago, tabloidlover said:

Why is this poor child having to wash all the dishes when there is a DISHWASHER right next to him???

 

 

Jill R: Oh, is that what that thing is? 

[ginger90]

Guess they need a new dishwasher, another post is sure  to follow.

[Barb23]

Couldn't they wrangle up a couple of kids to dry the plates instead of air drying?

[galaxychaser]

On 12/18/2018 at 10:11 AM, tabloidlover said:

 

i’m a little concerned that this was a college project....   is he in pre-college classes?  I’m SO confused!

I have zero artistic talents. I could not even paint that. Good job Timothy. It’s a fundie college so he probably got an A.

[madpsych78]

2 hours ago, Mindthinkr said:

Seems he might not be the only one. https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2018/12/blind-item-6_18.html

I know a lot of people are guessing Derick, but I think this item could also pertain to Jeremy.

[queenanne]

17 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

Gotta love these wonderful religious companions who dine both in and out with the Duggars. This guy. Mr. Anal Rape ..... 

But I guess the girls were right about one thing when the Joshley child-molestation story came out -- Guys forcing themselves on unwilling and/or unwitting girls and women apparently IS somewhat common in their oh-so-godly circle. 

I remember one of those "I was raised like the Duggars under Gothard" women writing an essay in Salon and/or Slate (the site with the magenta/purple color scheme).  She specifically said male relations in Quiverful households engaging in sexual trifling and predation with women they knew or were related to, was "common".  I think she in fact used the Jilly Muffin statistic (one-third?  two-thirds?) that so appalled people.  I'll never forget it, because this woman, unlike Jilly, was NOT invested in its being true to throw suspicion off of her and her family; in fact quite the opposite.  She specifically said that she herself was not sexually assaulted by a family member; but she knew Jill's statistic.  That to me spoke volumes, and it also indicated that Jill wasn't smart enough to know it should be damning and thought she was in fact voicing a positive ("See!  It's not just us!"), when all was said and done (but we knew that).

2 hours ago, tabloidlover said:

Why is this poor child having to wash all the dishes when there is a DISHWASHER right next to him???

 

Agreed, but he's (a) a male doing chores, which is a positive; (b), I like his cheerful attitude and work ethic, so for his sake I gave an upvote.

Edited December 19, 2018 by queenanne

[queenanne]

16 hours ago, BradandJanet said:

💙 He is literally one of the most hard working modern day people I know!       (Jill Rodrigues on son Timothy)

 

Bad homeschooling strikes again. How many people does Jill know who are not "modern day"?  Wouldn't those people be dead?

The junior high clock painting matches the Rodrigueses' decor, but why not at least put some kind of frame around it?

I think she means "he is as diligent as the pioneers of yore, who chopped down wood and pounded all the clothes on rocks working from sunup to sundown".

[doodlebug]

2 hours ago, queenanne said:

I think she means "he is as diligent as the pioneers of yore, who chopped down wood and pounded all the clothes on rocks working from sunup to sundown".

I think she may also be comparing him to other young people of his generation. Jill has no idea what kids of Tim's generation are like except what she hears in the fundie media where they are all slackers, having wanton sex, using drugs and having abortions for entertainment but that wouldn't stop her from looking askance at them.

When Jill says Tim is one of the most hardworking modern day people she knows, there's an implication that she knows other hardworking people who are not from modern times.  Of course, folks of Jill's religious persuasion are always harking back to days of yore and proclaiming people back then to have been morally superior in every way, even though there is plenty of evidence that they weren't. Since I don't think she is capable of time travel and since she is younger than me, I would chalk it up to her very inadequate homeschool education.

Edited December 19, 2018 by doodlebug

[toodles]

On 12/18/2018 at 7:11 AM, tabloidlover said:

 

i’m a little concerned that this was a college project....   is he in pre-college classes?  I’m SO confused!

Looks like someone discovered Bob Ross reruns.

[Normades]

5 hours ago, queenanne said:

he's (a) a male doing chores, which is a positive; (b), I like his cheerful attitude and work ethic, so for his sake I gave an upvote.

And they're not killing the environment with a bunch of styrofoam plates and plastic cutlery, so I think this is a win for Jilly.

[beckie]

Maybe they only use the dishwasher on special occasions.

[Mindthinkr]

5 minutes ago, beckie said:

Maybe they only use the dishwasher on special occasions.

That would be wasting money on electricity that would better be spent on manicures. Free labor rules. 

[beckie]

3 minutes ago, Mindthinkr said:

That would be wasting money on electricity that would better be spent on manicures. Free labor rules. 

Yah. I agree. However, the special occasions I was thinking of were her birthday, and, of course, Mother's Day. 

[Albanyguy]

10 hours ago, tabloidlover said:

Why is this poor child having to wash all the dishes when there is a DISHWASHER right next to him???

 

 I think the whole photo was staged.  The dishes are not only lined up perfectly, but they're bone-dry, not a drop of water on them. The towels they're resting on are dry, there's no water splashed on the counter and even though the faucet is running, there doesn't appear to be any water in the sink. Jill took the dishes out of the cupboard, arranged them on the counter, grabbed the first kid she saw and put a pair of rubber gloves on him. She's trying to show how her whole family bands together to share the workload, how they're just so happy and cheerful when they're doing something to help Mama and how she runs a neat, clean, well-organized home, despite what the haters say. She's also trying to make the point that she feeds her kids a BIG dinner every night.

[crazycatlady58]

42 minutes ago, Albanyguy said:

 I think the whole photo was staged.  The dishes are not only lined up perfectly, but they're bone-dry, not a drop of water on them. The towels they're resting on are dry, there's no water splashed on the counter and even though the faucet is running, there doesn't appear to be any water in the sink. Jill took the dishes out of the cupboard, arranged them on the counter, grabbed the first kid she saw and put a pair of rubber gloves on him. She's trying to show how her whole family bands together to share the workload, how they're just so happy and cheerful when they're doing something to help Mama and how she runs a neat, clean, well-organized home, despite what the haters say. She's also trying to make the point that she feeds her kids a BIG dinner every night.

If this is true that means she is also teaching her children to lie.

[NotFundie]

4 hours ago, Albanyguy said:

 I think the whole photo was staged.  The dishes are not only lined up perfectly, but they're bone-dry, not a drop of water on them. The towels they're resting on are dry, there's no water splashed on the counter and even though the faucet is running, there doesn't appear to be any water in the sink. Jill took the dishes out of the cupboard, arranged them on the counter, grabbed the first kid she saw and put a pair of rubber gloves on him. She's trying to show how her whole family bands together to share the workload, how they're just so happy and cheerful when they're doing something to help Mama and how she runs a neat, clean, well-organized home, despite what the haters say. She's also trying to make the point that she feeds her kids a BIG dinner every night.

You're absolutely right.  I hadn't noticed that at first.  No dripping water, no silverware, no glasses, no pots or pans.  She staged it to "prove" she feeds her kids.  And, we all know, she'd never feed them nearly enough to require bowls AND plates.  

She's getting crazier.

Edited December 20, 2018 by NotFundie

[ginger90]

Meanwhile......

 

4 pictures:

 

[McManda]

How does JillR successfully make all her kids look like bobbleheads on all her photos? So taking the photos from above and at such an harsh angle! It's like her goal in life to make her kids as awkward as possible.

That second photo, though. The middle girl looks like she's about a foot tall. 

[latetotheparty]

Sad little waifs. 

[louannems]

55 minutes ago, latetotheparty said:

Sad little waifs. 

Sophia, the stunted child in pink, has her big toes sticking out of her holey tights.  I can remember that myself and it's such an uncomfortable thing.

[queenanne]

1 hour ago, louannems said:

Sophia, the stunted child in pink, has her big toes sticking out of her holey tights.  I can remember that myself and it's such an uncomfortable thing.

She’s also got pretty good natural arm positions.  

Too bad she’ll probably never be allowed to TAKE ballet classes, and instead must ‘play’ it.

[CalicoKitty]

That little girl in pink looks like her body is wearing a head that is too large.  Is it the perspective, or does she really have a really large head?  I personally know a woman who is of short stature and has a larger-than-normal head, and she looks out of proportion just like this.  Unfortunately it is the first thing you notice about her.

[ChiCricket]

9 minutes ago, CalicoKitty said:

That little girl in pink looks like her body is wearing a head that is too large.  Is it the perspective, or does she really have a really large head?  I personally know a woman who is of short stature and has a larger-than-normal head, and she looks out of proportion just like this.  Unfortunately it is the first thing you notice about her.

Is it because your head doesn't shrink when you're starved? 🤔

[Scarlett45]

1 hour ago, ChiCricket said:

Is it because your head doesn't shrink when you're starved? 🤔

Proportionally prepubescent children (who haven’t reached their adult height) have larger heads than adults. And yes when one loses and gains body fat your face slims but your skull doesn’t shrink (same reason very obese people appear to have tiny heads). Certain types of dwarfism cause a different head/body ratio than found in average height persons. 

 

The children are thin, and they are children- combined with the awful angle I think that’s why their heads look large.