S18.E08: The Writing is on the Wall

[Scarlett45]

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 Kody takes Janelle out for her birthday and talks about wanting to start over; Meri reveals to Kody that she's moving her clothing business to Utah but not giving up on their relationship, and his reaction is worse than she expected.

 

Air Date: October 8, 2023

[General Days]

Timing note: I believe Janelle's birthday is May 6th.

[goofygirl]

Douchie thinks he can be in love with Janelle again but he feels like an "object"...

Yep.  That object is a dingleberry.

[Roslyn]

Okay. I am really perplexed. Robyn whinging endlessly about Meri not "leaving" the family. Is she really that thick? It is absolutely cruel to manipulate Meri to believe there might just sorta kinda maybe be a bit of a little spark in Kody that if Meri just keeps hangin on...he might reach out to her. Jesus...what kind of a mind game is that woman playing ?

Is Meri her emotional polygamy support animal ?

[Adeejay]

So, Kody is only holding on to Meri and Janelle because he doesn’t want to lose Robyn’s respect.  That is so disrespectful to Meri and Janelle.  Everything this man does is about what is best for Robyn.  And yet, he would have the world believe that he didn’t have a favorite.

[Art Of Noiz]

9 minutes ago, goofygirl said:

Douchie thinks he can be in love with Janelle again but he feels like an "object"...

Yep.  That object is a dingleberry.

Object of 

Scorn

Ridicule

Dismay

Embarassment

8 minutes ago, Roslyn said:

Okay. I am really perplexed. Robyn whinging endlessly about Meri not "leaving" the family. Is she really that thick? It is absolutely cruel to manipulate Meri to believe there might just sorta kinda maybe be a bit of a little spark in Kody that if Meri just keeps hangin on...he might reach out to her. Jesus...what kind of a mind game is that woman playing ?

Is Meri her emotional polygamy support animal ?

A few reasons I can think of, off the top of my head.

1. Fear of losing her money.

2. Fear of losing Meri as Kody's rage receptacle.

3. Fear of losing someone, ANYONE, to feel superior to. 

[Cancun]

Wanted to reply to this comment by @Elizzikra in the live chat…

”How does it not even occur to Kody that mending his relationships with Janelle’s children might be a good step in mending his relationship with Janelle???”

This is how we know Robyn is a lying liar when she says she is doing EVERYTHING to keep the family together. If she rilly wanted that, she would tell Kody to do the above mentioned mending.

[ezzy4]

I think normal human nature makes it hard to comprehend people who have no empathy at all.

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Sobyn: "Meri, Kody still loves you and wants you in his life"

Meri: "Rilly? 'Cause he doesn't act like it at all"

Kody: "Ug Meri, why are you still here?  I don't want you in my life.  But you insist on being here could you stay in the back of the garage where i keep things i don't want?"

Sobyn:  "Seeeeee Meri! Kody is making room for you in the back of the garage!! Yay!"

Meri (under her breath): "WTactualF"

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Sobyn seems legitimately clueless about other people's emotions and worth.

 

 

 

[eskimo]

See, I don't get that Robyn would lose respect for Kody if he lets go of his wives, but not lose respect for him treating them like total dog shit.  I could never be attracted to a man who treated others that way, no matter who they are.  Their sick minds must view Kody's willingness to simultaneously push away and also string along, these other women as a testament of his love for her,  or something????  This doesn't really describe what I'm getting at the way I'd like, but I can't really express it for some reason.  He obviously doesn't want them around, and she does (to be superior to), and this is the compromise?  It's baffling.  

[Teafortwo]

Meri and Robyn have such a strange "relationship" (in quotes because how can you call it that when Meri is the only one keeping in contact?). When she reached for Robyn's hand toward the end of the kitchen scene, it just seemed super weird - did she really think Robyn was invested in Kody keeping Meri's hopes up? Wouldn't that seem like a red flag?

I think she'd been gaslit by Robyn for so long she just didn't know what was really going on. I think based on her TH, that she's wised up by now.

[ezzy4]

And the ring thing is sooooo weird.  Can you imagine being married as long as Kody and Meri have been and your husband being COMPLETELY confused about why you'd be asking him about a new wedding ring on his finger?!

Kody acted like it was the weirdest thing ever.  And Sobyn seems just pissed!!  Sobyn seemed hugely offended Meri notice /asked about it.

Just another example of the Sobyn/Kody abuse and gaslighting.

It was just so disrespectful.

(I bet his old ring will be stuffed into a  box in the barn he wants to build along with everything else he's throwing away - ie: Meri)

[TexasTiffany]

That scene was so embarrassing. Kody says he could build a "barndominium" for Meri. Meri acknowledges that is where Kody wants to put everything he's done with and doesn't want to be bothered by anymore. Kody uses every opportunity to use Meri as an emotional doormat and wipe his feet all over her. 

Meri said it. She's really been by herself, doing things for herself for a decade now. Don't leave a door open for that a-hole Kody. Pick up your self esteem, tell him you are leaving and don't look back. There is zero future with Kody. He is nothing but toxic. Is she staying for the show's money? Then do something else on the show that's more interesting than groveling. 

Why shouldn't Meri ask about Kody wearing a different wedding ring? He acted like it was none of her business. What an ass. 

This episode included more interaction between some of the grown children, Janelle, and Christine. It's good to hear them all in agreement that they want to include each other in holidays and celebrations. Hmm, could they carry their own spin off show? They were more interesting than listening to Kody muse over how much he wants to hurt Meri. 

 

 

[js9548]

7 hours ago, General Days said:

Timing note: I believe Janelle's birthday is May 6th.

Thanks for that. So, this is May 2022? Are we now about a year and a half behind real time?  Hopefully we are catching up to what we already know from social media. 

Edited October 9, 2023 by js9548

[MsMalin]

I just keep thinking Kody can't get be any more of an asshole but yes! Every week he tops himself. I am appalled that he actually suggested Meri live in a tin can. He literally treats her like trash.

Robyn urging Meri to speak was so self serving. What a martyr.

[laurakaye]

9 hours ago, goofygirl said:

Douchie thinks he can be in love with Janelle again but he feels like an "object"...

Yep.  That object is a dingleberry.

Aww, poor widdle Dingleberry feels like an "object?"  You mean, kind of like him wanting to store Meri in a barn with the other crap from his life that he doesn't want to dill with?  Like that, you freaking asshat?  Just checking.

 

8 hours ago, ezzy4 said:

Sobyn: "Meri, Kody still loves you and wants you in his life"

Meri: "Rilly? 'Cause he doesn't act like it at all"

Kody: "Ug Meri, why are you still here?  I don't want you in my life.  But you insist on being here could you stay in the back of the garage where i keep things i don't want?"

Sobyn:  "Seeeeee Meri! Kody is making room for you in the back of the garage!! Yay!"

Meri (under her breath): "WTactualF"

This was the scene where I shouted something out loud - I think it was a four-letter word combined with a guffaw.  Thankfully no one in my house heard me.

I don't know if the editors are having fun this season trying to make Robyn look like an idiot or what, but the intercut of Kody telling Meri she could sleep in the hayloft of his barn followed by Robyn dry-crying, "see?  He wants you thurrrr, Meri!  He's tryin'!  There's still somethin' thurr!  Don't give up on us!" was hysterical.  

Other comments:

Janelle?  You can "compartmentalize" the various abuses and neglect done to your children by their father in order to go out on a hot date with Curly Sue to the best restaurant in Arizona?  Take several seats.  He's clearly still got the hots for her - he seems to somehow enjoy the idea of having a wife at home but some bow-chicka-wow on the side.  That's not polygamy, though, that's having an affair.  Hey, whatever works for those two, I guess, but for them to pretend that they were on some sexy date night after the crap that Kody has dished out to Gabe, Garrison and Savanah made me ragey.  Enjoy, Janelle, you do you but you can shove your "compartmentalization" rational.

Meri talking about having two houses...she was like, "you know who else has two or more houses?  Polygamist men."  Damn, Mere!!  I just wish the Meri on the couch would match up with the simpering wuss we saw during the conversation (if you can call it that) with Kody and Robyn.  

Kody - there are 14 other places to sit at Meri's house.  "I guess I'm gonna sit here on this chair but you're gonna have to move this stupid book."  Also, Kody and Robyn driving up in two separate vehicles, but one right behind the other?  Stop.  Seriously, stop wasting gasoline, you morons.  Save your pennies so Robyn can buy another retired Dickens Village house off of EBay.

Christine - you go, girl.  That is all.

 

Edited October 9, 2023 by laurakaye

[eskimo]

I think Kody is realizing Janelle offers him something Robyn never can, thoughtful (for the Browns) conversation and more mature (again, for the Browns) behavior.  He and Robyn had an us-vs-them commonality for so long and they could put all negativity into that box.  I'd bet that even when they were upset with each other they would pin it all on the stress the others were causing them. But that excuse doesn't hold up so well now, although we heard Robyn last week still trying to pin Kody being a dick on 'what Christine did to him'. 🙄  

Anyhow, Kody sees himself as some kind of intellectual (🤣) and while Robyn's damsel in distress shtick, and massaging his opionions via ass kissing, feed his ego he has got to be bored as hell with her quite a bit these days. She appears to be a special kind of dumbass. 

[zenme]

Robyn is a total manipulator and gaslighter. She wants everyone to be believe her hands are clean, and it’s all Kody. To Kody she wants him to believe he’s so right about everything except where it doesn’t serve her. Then she will play the sad victim, and of course, because she’s so loyal to him, she deserves his support.  

[EtheltoTillie]

I am surprised no one else is commenting on Kody's horrible whining about how he can't enjoy his relationship with Robyn and get their solace together because of the way everyone else is acting.  No, jerkface, it's because you know you are guilty of treating everyone like s--t.

WTAF?

[zamp33]

They should have called this episode "The Writing is on the Barndimonium" I guess Kody is sick of paying for U-Hauls to keep on the property for storage.

I was impressed that Meri made the connection of Kody storing her with things he doesn't want anymore or doesn't have room for. As that was filmed more recently I wonder if she has been going to therapy and the therapist has shown her that Kody will never come around and Robyn as just been manipulating her and playing mind games with her. 

Boy, I never ever thought I would feel badly for Meri but watching Kody barely containing a grin and Robyn - (who by the way is driving the truck that Kody said he did not want used for "soccer mom" stuff and why are they driving separately and happen to arrive at the same time??)  saying see he wants you out there continually and trying to convince her there was hope was awful. I would love to see the lightbulb moment when she finally realized they have been stringing her along - and if I had to guess it was probably the tell all filmed at the end of season 17 where Kody and Robyn told that ridiculous story of him wanting to get back with Meri but was blocked by Christine. Season 18 was filming at that time. 

I hate how they are dragging this season - and if they were dragging it by interspersing clips of older episodes that directly contradict what Kody and Robyn are saying then I would be all in on that, but they are really dragging this out. 

One more thing - Kody's narcisissim was on full blown display on the "date" with Janelle. All he wanted as adoration and praise for making a reservation at a fancy restaurant and did not want to listen to Janelle's concerns or have a real conversation about how to fix things. It was all me, me, me. I was angry at Janelle for going but I can also see she might be thinking there could be something to fix - obviously there wasn't. Hope she had a VERY expensive dinner and made sure Kody and Robyn paid for it. 

 

[Kellyee]

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Janelle?  You can "compartmentalize" the various abuses and neglect done to your children by their father in order to go out on a hot date with Curly Sue to the best restaurant in Arizona? 

He completely ignored Savannah and all her kids at Christmas, but Janelle wants to go out, so whatever. I think Janelle does what works for Janelle, and if it means her kids get screwed, then oh well. I've gotten this vibe at various times from both Janelle and Christine. I know they get a great edit from TLC, but they're not the good people or fabulous mothers some people think they are.

Janelle is separated from Kody because Janelle wants her independence, not because she's so protective of her kids.

 

 

 

 

 

[zamp33]

31 minutes ago, zenme said:

 

 

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Edited October 9, 2023 by zamp33
My computer did something weird and I triple posted so sorry

[mythoughtis]

2 minutes ago, zamp33 said:

Robyn showed her loyalty when instead of trying to fix things with Janelle's boys at the holidays when Meri suggested inviting them for Christmas Eve - Robyn  said "that would be scary" and we know about the text thread debacle - she has no desire to interact with the other kids - except maybe for Mykelti. 

 

And she’ll drop MyKelti when it’s suits her.   
I didn’t like Janelle going to dinner with Kody- but she does need to try to maintain a civil separation if the kids ever want to see him.  Because  he’s already saying the wife (ex-wife)  not letting him come over is the reason he can’t see his kids.  As if the kids are imprisoned at home 24/7. As if they can’t leave mom’s side.

She did shut him down about this being a reconciliation. That was made clear in the TH. 
 

The way he treats Meri is awful.  Then he uses the excuse that she won’t listen when he tells her it’s over.  He had the perfect time and on camera during this conversation to tell  her to move completely and why. He didn’t - and that’s all because he knows Robyn doesn’t want him to. 

[laurakaye]

When Robyn was performing her couch soliloquy about how Meri supposedly begged her to help Meri keep hope alive or something like that, I so badly wanted a cut of a Meri talking head saying, "yeah, that never happened."  But bravo to Robyn, she tried rilly hard to squeeze some liquid out of her eyes in that little scene but alas, 'twas not to be.  At this point she should keep some eyedrops hidden under one of her boingy curls to quickly squeeze in her eyes when production isn't looking.

I could not believe that I was spending my time watching Meri, Kody and Robyn in Meri's kitchen all looking at each other and barely speaking.  Robyn was all, "ummm so tell him what you were gonna tell him Meri" and Meri was like "ummmm like I don't know what you're saying, Robyn" and then Meri would giggle and be all "gee Kody I can't think because I'm lookin' at your ring" and Robyn would stare at Meri, and there was some profoundly awkward silence and Kody was just sittin' there staring into space, wondering when the crazy orange lady was going to stop talking so he could go home and hide in his closet amongst his purple shirts and play with his Legos.  

This stupid show....that I cannot stop watching. 🙄

[Shelbie]

I know it’s too much to hope for but I would love just one episode without Robyn pretending to cry .
If she can’t do this an episode where Robyn doesn’t appear would be my second choice.

[bichonblitz]

That was the most awkward interaction between 2 people that have been "married" for more than 30 yrs I have ever seen. Meri, you are right. Kody is done with you. I wish she would save her money and forget about getting a smaller place in Flagstaff unless she loves Flagstaff so much she doesn't want to leave permanently. I don't think that's her reason. 

[TomGirl]

9 hours ago, eskimo said:

 He obviously doesn't want them around, and she does (to be superior to)

I think this says it all.  Robyn can’t be the “winner” if there’s no one else in the race.

[Madding crowd]

Kody saying he can’t show his love for Robyn because of his other wives is just ridiculous. I think my mouth dropped open when he said that. He is with Robyn all the time. What did he want to do, have a make out session with Robyn on Meri’s counter top? I can’t wait for the day those two are just stuck with other and no wives to complain about.

[Sandy W]

2 hours ago, Kellyee said:

He completely ignored Savannah and all her kids at Christmas, but Janelle wants to go out, so whatever. I think Janelle does what works for Janelle, and if it means her kids get screwed, then oh well. I've gotten this vibe at various times from both Janelle and Christine. I know they get a great edit from TLC, but they're not the good people or fabulous mothers some people think they are.

Janelle is separated from Kody because Janelle wants her independence, not because she's so protective of her kids.

 

 

 

 

 

Janelle and Christine both seem to have their priorities skewed. 

For Janelle, it should have been the forced move to Flagstaff ignoring Gabe's prospects of scholarships (both academic and athletic) for the sake of helicopter mom, Robyn.

For Christine, most women I know would have given up on the relationship over Kody's behaviour regarding Ysabel's surgery, NOT the realization that she would never again enjoy the wet pencil stub.

 

[ginger90]

I think there were many reasons that built up over time that let Christine make the decision to actually leave.

[Adeejay]

43 minutes ago, Sandy W said:

Janelle and Christine both seem to have their priorities skewed. 

For Janelle, it should have been the forced move to Flagstaff ignoring Gabe's prospects of scholarships (both academic and athletic) for the sake of helicopter mom, Robyn.

Before Covid, I can’t think of a time or instance when Janelle put her children first.  When it comes to polygamy, Janelle who was born LDS, is the biggest Kool-Aid drinker.   I lost all respect for her when she pulled Gabe out of his final year in High School to follow Kody who was following Robyn who was following her son to college in Arizona.  Robyn would never in a million years allow one of Janelle’s kids to dictate where she lives. 

[applewood]

9 hours ago, TexasTiffany said:

That scene was so embarrassing. Kody says he could build a "barndominium" for Meri. Meri acknowledges that is where Kody wants to put everything he's done with and doesn't want to be bothered by anymore. Kody uses every opportunity to use Meri as an emotional doormat and wipe his feet all over her. 

Meri said it. She's really been by herself, doing things for herself for a decade now. Don't leave a door open for that a-hole Kody. Pick up your self esteem, tell him you are leaving and don't look back. There is zero future with Kody. He is nothing but toxic. Is she staying for the show's money? Then do something else on the show that's more interesting than groveling. 

Why shouldn't Meri ask about Kody wearing a different wedding ring? He acted like it was none of her business. What an ass. 

This episode included more interaction between some of the grown children, Janelle, and Christine. It's good to hear them all in agreement that they want to include each other in holidays and celebrations. Hmm, could they carry their own spin off show? They were more interesting than listening to Kody muse over how much he wants to hurt Meri. 

 

 

The "bardominium" idea was stupid. Why would Meri want to live in a room in a barn? I have to agree with a**hole  Kody though when he said " I don't know why Meri still lives in Flaggstaff."

Meri should just live in Utah full time.

I loved it when Gabe said "Wherever Christine spends Thanksgiving, that's where I want to spend Thankgiving." ahh.

They could totally have their own spin off show.

[Sandy W]

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

I think there were many reasons that built up over time that let Christine make the decision to actually leave.

I agree there were many factors that influenced her decision but the optics were bad when it appeared that her decision to leave was after she came to the realization that she would be frozen out by Kody.

[Kid]

OMG, Meri, have some self-respect. He does not give two shits if you leave!

Edited October 9, 2023 by Kid

[Dixie Sugarbaker]

I think Meri would have told Kody she was done and gone at that awkward meeting if Robyn hadn’t been feeding Meri with the fiction that Kody still wanted them to be a family. Robyn has been doing everything she can to keep Meri around just so she can lord it over Meri that Robyn is the preferred wife. Robyn is truly one sick individual.

[Elizzikra]

1 hour ago, applewood said:

The "bardominium" idea was stupid. Why would Meri want to live in a room in a barn?

I mean, it was going to have a fridge and a stove and everything…

[Adeejay]

I can’t begin to imagine how the OGs felt when they heard Kody say, “I wasn’t allowed to love Robyn.”  It’s almost as if he is going out of his way to make those ladies feel less than.  They all agreed that there would be no PDAs.  So, he was okay with not showing them any type of public affection, but for Miss “Where Should I put my Bills”, it was a whole different ballgame.  He wanted the world to see him hugging, kissing, and holding her hands.  He even objected to having to sit so far from her at Meri’s.  Every time I think this POS can’t sink any lower, he proves me wrong. 

[Absolom]

2 hours ago, Adeejay said:

 I lost all respect for her when she pulled Gabe out of his final year in High School to follow Kody who was following Robyn who was following her son to college in Arizona.  Robyn would never in a million years allow one of Janelle’s kids to dictate where she lives. 

The same reasoning applies, but Gabe had two years left when they moved to AZ.  He was so disturbed by it all that he put all his efforts into finishing high school and did that a year early.  

[General Days]

6 hours ago, laurakaye said:

Janelle?  You can "compartmentalize" the various abuses and neglect done to your children by their father in order to go out on a hot date with Curly Sue to the best restaurant in Arizona?  Take several seats.  He's clearly still got the hots for her - he seems to somehow enjoy the idea of having a wife at home but some bow-chicka-wow on the side.  That's not polygamy, though, that's having an affair.  Hey, whatever works for those two, I guess, but for them to pretend that they were on some sexy date night after the crap that Kody has dished out to Gabe, Garrison and Savanah made me ragey.  Enjoy, Janelle, you do you but you can shove your "compartmentalization" rational.

Great post, Laura.

I'm not even convinced Kody still has the hots for Janelle. I do think they had a full marriage up until the separation, but I also think that, in his heart, he is in a monogamous relationship with himself (sorry, I couldn't resist) or possibly Robyn (but really himself).

In my opinion, historically, Kody has been able to use sex to manipulate Janelle. That's why (imo) he was so offended last week and talked about his six-pack abs and whatever else it was he mentioned (I mostly tried to black it out). He was offended, because his usual move didn't work.

 

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Meri talking about having two houses...she was like, "you know who else has two or more houses?  Polygamist men."  Damn, Mere!!  I just wish the Meri on the couch would match up with the simpering wuss we saw during the conversation (if you can call it that) with Kody and Robyn.  

 

I loved that more than a Brown kid loves Mock Tapioca Pudding.

And yeah, it would be great if Meri could get that place in her face-to-face interactions. For thirty years though, Kody and his other wives have been telling her it's wrong to be blunt, so she's been conditioned to keep that in, and her frustration leaks out as tears, instead.

 

2 hours ago, applewood said:

The "bardominium" idea was stupid. Why would Meri want to live in a room in a barn? I have to agree with a**hole  Kody though when he said " I don't know why Meri still lives in Flaggstaff."

Meri should just live in Utah full time.

I loved it when Gabe said "Wherever Christine spends Thanksgiving, that's where I want to spend Thankgiving." ahh.

They could totally have their own spin off show.

 

I think Kody wants Meri to live in Utah fulltime and just come back to film the show. I think that's what he was trying to get at by storing her in the barn. She could stay there when she has to film, and get the hell out of his life when she doesn't (because who would stay over in Kodpiece's glorified storage shed any longer than they had to?). 

[Chicklet]

"Meri is still part of Kody's big PITCHER."

Robyn is the dumbest woman on earth.

Sure go live in a barn, Meri, shows you how much Kody thinks about you.

[endure]

15 hours ago, eskimo said:

See, I don't get that Robyn would lose respect for Kody if he lets go of his wives, but not lose respect for him treating them like total dog shit.  I could never be attracted to a man who treated others that way, no matter who they are.  Their sick minds must view Kody's willingness to simultaneously push away and also string along, these other women as a testament of his love for her,  or something????  This doesn't really describe what I'm getting at the way I'd like, but I can't really express it for some reason.  He obviously doesn't want them around, and she does (to be superior to), and this is the compromise?  It's baffling.  

It IS so baffling but don't forget it is Kody saying that about Robyn losing respect for him..... but still Robyn says equally strange unrelatable things all the time. It's like they are from a different planet and I think Robyn is just full of real insecurities and Kody is just all about himself.  And I think they are desperate to hold onto the show.  Obviously they watch back the footage and they still can't see themselves.  I doubt anyone can relate to them.

[candall]

I had to pause the recording so I could come here and release the hysterical laugh bubble that formed in my chest when Kody said "[Robyn and I] have never been allowed, essentially, to be in love with each other. or . . . to find solace in each other."

THE VICTIMIZATION OF POOR KODY CONTINUES.

 

 

[I have to add that he looks very ugly as he describes, again, all the unfair things that have been perpetrated against him by these terrible conniving women.  His lip curls up in a sneer on one side and his little squinty piggy eyes dart back and forth.  Careful, Kody, your insides are becoming outsides.]

[endure]

Kody was so hoping to have sex with Janelle.  And why did he bring up his shirt like he was soooo dressed up.... and more than once! Hoping Janelle said g'night to him at the door and just enjoyed the free dinner!

[endure]

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[IvySpice]

20 minutes ago, candall said:

I had to pause the recording so I could come here and release the hysterical laugh bubble that formed in my chest when Kody said "[Robyn and I] have never been allowed, essentially, to be in love with each other. or . . . to find solace in each other."

That was totally bananas. How were there greater limitations on this relationship than on the others? He's just giving himself away because this was the only wife he's been in love with, so it's the first time he's ever WANTED to flaunt it.

[Cherry Styles]

41 minutes ago, endure said:

Kody was so hoping to have sex with Janelle.  And why did he bring up his shirt like he was soooo dressed up.... and more than once! Hoping Janelle said g'night to him at the door and just enjoyed the free dinner!

🤢🤮

[LotusFlower]

9 hours ago, laurakaye said:

Aww, poor widdle Dingleberry feels like an "object?"  You mean, kind of like him wanting to store Meri in a barn with the other crap from his life that he doesn't want to dill with?  Like that, you freaking asshat?  Just checking.

 

This was the scene where I shouted something out loud - I think it was a four-letter word combined with a guffaw.  Thankfully no one in my house heard me.

I don't know if the editors are having fun this season trying to make Robyn look like an idiot or what, but the intercut of Kody telling Meri she could sleep in the hayloft of his barn followed by Robyn dry-crying, "see?  He wants you thurrrr, Meri!  He's tryin'!  There's still somethin' thurr!  Don't give up on us!" was hysterical.  

Other comments:

Janelle?  You can "compartmentalize" the various abuses and neglect done to your children by their father in order to go out on a hot date with Curly Sue to the best restaurant in Arizona?  Take several seats.  He's clearly still got the hots for her - he seems to somehow enjoy the idea of having a wife at home but some bow-chicka-wow on the side.  That's not polygamy, though, that's having an affair.  Hey, whatever works for those two, I guess, but for them to pretend that they were on some sexy date night after the crap that Kody has dished out to Gabe, Garrison and Savanah made me ragey.  Enjoy, Janelle, you do you but you can shove your "compartmentalization" rational.

Meri talking about having two houses...she was like, "you know who else has two or more houses?  Polygamist men."  Damn, Mere!!  I just wish the Meri on the couch would match up with the simpering wuss we saw during the conversation (if you can call it that) with Kody and Robyn.  

Kody - there are 14 other places to sit at Meri's house.  "I guess I'm gonna sit here on this chair but you're gonna have to move this stupid book."  Also, Kody and Robyn driving up in two separate vehicles, but one right behind the other?  Stop.  Seriously, stop wasting gasoline, you morons.  Save your pennies so Robyn can buy another retired Dickens Village house off of EBay.

Christine - you go, girl.  That is all.

 

THIS!!!  Every word.  Thanks for the laughs, Laura!

[LotusFlower]

7 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

That was the most awkward interaction between 2 people that have been "married" for more than 30 yrs I have ever seen. Meri, you are right. Kody is done with you. I wish she would save her money and forget about getting a smaller place in Flagstaff unless she loves Flagstaff so much she doesn't want to leave permanently. I don't think that's her reason. 

The body language!  Kody on one side of the kitchen island, Meri and Robyn on the other….Meri needing to hold Robyn’s hand for safety, talking very passively and sheepishly…she’s SO afraid of him!  
 

I’ve never been a fan of Meri’s, but that was hard to watch.  And then when she asked an innocent question about his ring, he had the fucking nerve to make fun of her legitimate question.  “It’s just a ring,” he replied, with a sneer.  He and Robyn looked nervous.  It’s probably engraved with some expression of their love, er, I mean their “solace” to one another. 

[Granny58]

10 hours ago, laurakaye said:

Meri talking about having two houses...she was like, "you know who else has two or more houses?  Polygamist men."  Damn, Mere!!  I just wish the Meri on the couch would match up with the simpering wuss we saw during the conversation (if you can call it that) with Kody and Robyn.  

This was a simply stupendous statement!  Bravo Meri!

At the risk of being the board pariah, I can see  the point of Kody's barn/apartment idea.  And how it could be misconstrued as hopeful, aka he still wants her near.  He does not, however, in this moment I do think he was trying to be helpful.  He did say making an apartment there, not sticking her up in the hayloft.  LOL.

[SemiCharmedLife]

4 hours ago, Elizzikra said:

I mean, it was going to have a fridge and a stove and everything…

If Kody really wanted to seal the deal, he should have used those two magic words: "wet bar."

1 hour ago, endure said:

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[Meow Mix]

That "conversation" between Kody, Meri, and Robyn was something else.  Starting with Kody acting like a weirdo regarding where he sat.  That island looked about a mile long and why did Meri have to hunch over rather than sitting down?  Then there was that ugly ring.  Sobyn totally picked that tacky thing out.  Meri realized in that moment that despite Kody's insistence that it was just a ring that it was on the ring finger of his left hand where the claddagh ring used to be.  She knew the score in that moment. That brings me to the next point, Sobyn pushing her to make her impassioned speech about still having hope and not leaving the family.  Either Robyn is really that obtuse or she is the cruelest person on earth.  Either way, I was disgusted.  And then comes the barndominium.  Not only was she supposed to live in some crappy loft with a stove and a sink and everything, but before that she was supposed to live in an RV including over the winter.  I felt for Meri in that whole scene because I think she was too taken aback to throw both their asses out.  In the TH interviews, she clearly has a clearer picture - or pitcher according to Sobyn.

As for Janelle going to dinner with Kody, I'm torn.  Sure use him for a free meal and don't give him the reconciliation with your money he is after.  But, on the other hand, has he spoken to Savanah yet?  Neither said, so I wonder if he has frozen her out for good.  He's a POS and I'm glad he had to splash out for a fancy dinner and got nothing for it.  And he was not dressed up.

I liked seeing the older kids hanging out together, but I don't want a spinoff.  I want them to be able to liver their lives without cameras in their faces.  I also have no interest in seeing the Tony and Mykelti show because I can't stand either of them.  I also noticed that that enormous beanbag chair had migrated to Garrison's house.  I hope it was the same one.  I would be dismayed to learn that there is more than one of those ugly things in the world.  

I also thought having a lease upfront was a great idea on Garrison's part.  I think Gabe would be responsible and pay rent and to his part in keeping the house up, but Gwen seems flighty and needs the rules spelled out ahead of time.  I did laugh at her closet comment.

One last thing I have noticed over the last few episodes that Meri and Christine are softening their positions on each other.  Meri has defended Christine several times in TH interviews and said in the tell-all that she understood why Christine left.  Christine has commented on how cruel Kody has been to Meri for years and that she feels bad about that.  There may be too much water under the bridge for them to ever be close, but I am hoping that they can at least be civil to each other at family events like weddings.  Mykelti is not there and may never be, but Christine is not in the place where she won't be in the same room with Meri.