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I thought drywall was his own business - if he worked for the town/city then he would be getting a pension. How much depends on how long he worked for the town and if was there long enough to be vested. I seem to remember how happy they were when he got the job working for the town and I believe they mentioned a pension way back when - but then again both Dan and Jackie both had sons that seems to have been forgotten about so who knows about the pension. If you pay into the pension, you are not paying into social security so that may be affecting what he is getting. But his jobs have been so hodgepodge over the years who knows?

It is nice to see Janelle smile and have a nice experience with Logan and Michelle!

I think the twist of Fruit Punch mix was really unfair. It is a strong artificial overly sweet flavor and really could only potentially work with a couple of cake flavors. I think the twist concept is ok but I really hate it when they are so out there that they basically undermine what is being asked of the bakers. Also if you get the vanilla flavor, then you may be able to work with the fruit punch, but chocolate or honey - that is hard. I still am angry about the ridiculous Green Apple Coffee twist a few seasons back, but this one is ranks right up there as one of the stupidest twists. That being said,the one baker who did not have to do the twist got sent home.

Janelle posted on instagram to thank everyone for the donations to the shelters in Garrison's name. She also said his cats would be going with his siblings. I cannot figure out how to post it here- maybe someone with more skills than I can.

I am horrified that they listened to police scanners, to me that was trying to exploit the death to get it out first and get views. Some sites have posted very brief messages and given out information about 988 and places where we could donate to as we are all feeling very upset about this news. It is always so sad to hear of someone taking their own life but this really hit me hard, probably because we have been watching for so long and we have seen Janelle worries about Garrison's mental health (during covid) and have seen Garrison mourn for their prior family life, and Garrison continued to be an active presence on the show and on social media - last year he even gave space for Janelle to garden. I think viewers are trying to find a way to be respectful and commiserate, but not in a way that is offensive or upsetting to the family. So the sites that have brief mentions I am ok with - but the scanners mention - ugh.

Hello - not sure if this is ok to post here, but I was so sad reading about Garrison and I know he loves cats and just rescued one. Someone on a post suggested that maybe if people felt like they wanted to do something they could donate to an animal shelter in honor of Garrison. I found that my local shelter where I adopted my cat had a amazon and chewy wish list, so I donated some items from that for the shelter. My prayers and wishes are with the family - how utterly devastating.

@Sandy W and @Orcinus orcaI believe in one of the last specials (look backs or something) Meri's friend Jen said that Meri was looking for someone 6ft 6 and a pilot. They were joking around and laughing , but I believe she was referencing her and Jen's conversation about what her next man would be like. I am guessing because those episodes are still not streaming the reference might be lost on people who did not see it.

I liked that Meri admitted she was not being completely honest after the knife in the kidney monologue - I think we all suspected it but it was nice that it was confirmed. Robyn sure got off easy from production - she did not have to watch any clips that gave her "panic attacks" and in the talk back she was not given any questions directed at her. I really don't like that she got the last word, but I think production, as @NoWhammies so brilliantly broke down, showed us that it was indeed mostly Robyn and Kody who betrayed everything that Robyn listed. I think Robyn must be aware of her culpability in the demise of the family and does not want to face the truth and would rather continue spinning lies and gaslighting the viewers. And just wanted to share this..My son came in while I was watching the episode this morning and said "what is up with that guy's hair?

You all have made so many great points about Robyn being the puppet master -here are mine and I apologize if I repeated anything: Robyn has made sneaky passive aggressive comments about weight throughout the seasons. Here are some I can recall.. In one of the tell alls, I believe it was last seasons and the most blatant example, Robyn made a comment Kody loved his wives despite their stretch marks, weight gain etc. She ordered Janelle and XL shirt and went on and on (rushing in at the last minute when the cameras were on( how it would be to small in the episode where they ran the 5K - and it fit Janelle. When they all first went to the gym, she went to and watched the weigh ins even though she was pregnant and not participating in the workouts. Also she kept harping about how she wanted the family but she drained all their financial resources while never working - and when she wanted to have another baby she was whining to Kody that she could not get pregnant now because the other wives were not helping her enough (oh and she had a nanny at that point too!) Her stringing Meri along all these years encouraging her to stay when she knew that Kody had no interest in Meri - AND never making plans with Meri, and not letting her hang out during covid despite Meri following the absurd rules (and yes, having a NANNY who came from outside the home the entire time!) AND to me her greatest show of how she felt was when she did not insist that Kody go to Ysabel's surgery. To keep a child away from their parent in their greatest time of need shows that she had no empathy at all for the other kids. Remember she also said that Sol and Ari could not be without their Dad for more than 2 nights numerous times. She was very covert and passive aggressive in my opinion while playing the victim card.

Just wondering if I missed something - but were ANY questions directed at Robyn or was it all Kody and the OG3? Robyn's body language clearly showed that she did not want to be there but I noticed that she did not have to answer any questions directed at her. Also I really wish they would have played the clip of Kody missing Gabe's birthday when Robyn was talking about what a great dad he was when they all had covid and how he took care of them all. Love Jen - she so was all of us and could see through Robyn's horrible treatment of Meri. I am glad she was part of the show. Watching them watch clips is so much better than the show was this last season. I hope they do more - I mean they cannot really do "Sister Wives" anymore, this could be a cheap and easy way to continue to milk all they can from this show - and yes I will still be watching.

Just my thoughts, but ultimately, I think tv stardom was bad for Kody and Robyn, but for the other wives and for the kids it got them out of the polygamist bubble and helped them to go on to happier lives. Which is ironic because you usually hear all these horror stories of reality stars and children actors - but the Brown kids all seem happy, settled and thriving in their post-Reality lives. But Reality TV exposed Kody and Robyn and their intentions. Not that I endorse people putting their lives on tv, I just think it opened up another world for most of the Browns that they may not have accessed prior to leaving Lehi and going to Vegas.

Totally agree with both - when you are dealing with a narc, they can twist, turn and manipulate everything and say it is your fault - remember, Kody kept referring to Ysabel's surgery as a "vacation". My ex one day drank 12 beers - and was hiding them - when I confronted him he literally told me in front of the kids "2 is really one". When my kids found his texts with his the woman he was having an affair with he told them oh I am helping her with a spreadsheet. And was screaming at them about she was just a friend..those texts said otherwise! (I was in the process of leaving him at that point, but the texts were from when my oldest was in the hospital with a life threatening infection - I really cringe at how stupid I was!! But we are all thriving and happy now) My point is - you can have the evidence and they will deny it and twist it into a narrative that fits their point of view. I am guessing Christine did not want Kody to do that as enough damage has been done to Ysabel. ETA: I believe that Christine was totally working with a therapist in her calm non-reactions to Kody, that is the best way to deal with a narc. And it actually infuriates them more because they cannot retaliate with their twisted logic.

I personally think that this format is so much more interesting than the one on ones! I have been really enjoying it. Could Robyn be anymore dramatic at the sight of the commitment ceremony?

I was rewatching season 14 - (I cannot remember the ep number now but I can re-edit this post later and post it.) Robyn said at least 3 times in that episode if someone was not happy they were free to leave, no one was forcing wives to stay. Kody said the same thing. I do not understand why now Robyn says she needs "permission" to be happy from Kody's ex-wives. Does she expect them to grovel to her and apologize and then give her their blessing- (I think she does.) Also Kody saying that he has to be made out to be the bad guy so David will accept Christine - is that what happened with Robyn and her ex- she had to say she was in an abusive marriage in order to be accepted by Kody?

I was really hoping they would all watch the clip when Robyn told Meri that it would not be "safe" to have Janelle's kids over for Christmas. That would have caught Robyn in another batch of her lies about Christmas. So many lies unraveling -from the personality test, the Christmas text thread and the catfish!! it was obvious that Robyn was having trouble keeping stories straight. I liked Suki this episode! I think she is finally figuring out the dynamics of the family.