Yeah, except that's not what happened here. At all. Meghan acted like the entire segment after the break had been some rebuttal to her, when in fact, all of the other hosts had their own thoughts about what's going on. I do think Meghan thinks any time someone on this show opens her mouth, they're arguing with Meghan. The narcissism is strong with this one.
But here's how it actually went down.
The View: A Partial Recap
(Much of this is close-enough paraphrase. Where I do quote, I use quotation marks.)
Whoopi introduced the first topic; Wednesday, the House of Representatives is slated to vote on impeachment. If they vote to proceed, the Senate trial should begin in early 2020, but some Republicans say they don't have to wait that long to see where this is going.
Clips: Mitch McConnell says he's coordinating everything with White House Counsel; Lindsey Graham says he's signaling he made up his mind and isn't trying to pretend to be a fair juror; Jerry Nadler says they're violating their oath and subverting the Constitutional process.
WHOOPI asked if we just watched Mitch & Lindsey admit they're prepared to violate their Constitutional duty, and if as jurors, they shouldn't hear everything before making up their minds.
JOY said they're partisan hacks but people will catch onto that soon, because everyone has been on a jury. SUNNY agreed. ABBY made some crosstalk noises (maybe in agreement).
MEGHAN asked how that's different from Rashida Tlaib on election night saying [this was bleeped, but we all know it was 'impeach the MF']? To her, it's partisanship on (sing it with me now...) BOTH SIDES before the trial has even begun.
JOY agreed Tlaib shouldn't have said that.
MEGHAN still ground away at the topic, even though no one was arguing with her, then said she takes "Great offense" at the idea that there's not integrity and seriousness, given the gravity of the accusations. She thinks most people have tuned out because BOTH SIDES are making it as political as they are.
SUNNY said she looked up the oath senators will have to take ahead of the impeachment trial. She finds it shocking that Lindsey said something that they're going to get to coming up.
WHOOPI said she was getting to that. She talked about the difference between someone like Tlaib on election night yelling something like that and one of the to-be-jurors and Graham saying something, when he's going to be "sitting in judgment" of the impeachment. [My note: that is a very loose PARAPHRASE, but I believe it fairly represents the spirit of Whoopi's comment.]
MEGHAN said she doesn't see a difference between Tlaib's comment and Graham saying what he said in the run up to impeachment, even though Whoopi and Joy pointed out Tlaib won't be a juror in the impeachment trial. Meghan then implored everyone to stop being so partisan on BOTH sides. [Note: Tlaib wasn't even sworn in when she said we should impeach the MF]
WHOOPI agreed they should stop being so partisan.
ABBY said the Republicans have lost her by not acknowledging something bad happened. She finds what Trump did (and does on a daily basis) abhorrent. Still, she thinks we need more on grounds for impeachment. More than abuse of power, she thinks we need proof something illegal was done. [Note: she's so passive, she even abuses the passive voice.] She then pivoted to her safe space, a both-sides hypothetical, where Joe Biden could get elected, then be impeached for Burisma. She found her whole weekend was consumed by Trump, and she has a "pit in her stomach this "holiday season" because Trump represents everything we're "taught not to be as human beings."
WHOOPI threw in word-salad about hypocrisy & started talking about Bill Clinton and his lie. ABBY, MEGHAN thinking she was arguing against Whoopi, says, "[Clinton] perjured himself, though." WHOOPI's all like, yeah that's a lie.
SUNNY, JOY, and MEGHAN all began to talk at once.
WHOOPI shouted over them to let her make her point, which is that what Graham is saying now is the exact sentiment he argued against during Bill Clinton's impeachment. She added that the Constitution is not flexible, then served up some more word salad, and closed by saying, "Take it to trial. Stop saying, 'I'm not going to look at the evidence'. You just can't do that. That's not the American way."
ABBY tried to make what I think is a good-humored observation of the intentionally obvious kind, as she laughed and said, "So you're saying there's hypocrisy going on." She meant with Graham.
WHOOPI wanted to try to stay serious though, and said it's not even the hypocrisy. She then tried to bring Meghan into the conversation, by gesturing at her (Meghan) as she (Whoopi) added, "It's the thing that has scared everyone, which is this divide that you talk about all the time," then pointed to the producers, who must have signaled to wrap, and added, "I know."
WHOOPI: "Yeah, that you talk about all the time, between--"
MEGHAN: (not letting Whoopi finish her point) "Well, I just spend most of my time around conservatives. I don't spend my time around -- like, like, well, my off time -- and I know that there are a group of people in this country that think this is completely partisan on the left as well, and I'm not saying what Lindsey Graham said was okay, because I disagree with it, but the idea that like (she rolls her eyes and makes a mocking expression), 'Oh, we're in a Pollyanna moment, and our innocence is lost now'..." (she didn't complete the thought, but instead started rebutting the straw man she introduced). "Go back to -- again -- a President who perjured himself within my lifetime, and having an impeachment process, and you can -- I'm just telling you--
JOY, who had been softly trying to say something during that last quoted bit above, said something including the words "No, I wanna [???] why you [???]"
MEGHAN: (continuing) "But I'm just telling you, conservatives right now -- if I were a Democrat, I would be out there on the frontlines every way possible, trying to change their mind, 'cause all I hear right now is, 'The Democrats have gotten out over their skis', and they want to move on." [NOTE: She talks so fast and finishes so few thoughts, but I think what she was saying there is that it is conservatives who want to move on, because Dems are out over their skis.] "And by the way, Trump wants a long impeachment process, because it's good for him and it's helping his numbers..."
JOY: (tries to speak again) "He thinks so."
MEGHAN: (talking over Joy) "And Mitch -- Mitch McConnell does not -- you can laugh all you want--
WHOOPI: "No, no. They're not laughing at you. They're laughing at the fact that I--," she gestures towards the producers, "We have to go so bad, he's -- like he (a producer) has to go to the bathroom." She mimics someone bouncing like they have to pee. "He's standing there like this." The camera shows a producer or director (bald guy with gray mustache and glasses, who is laughing and has turned beet red). "We'll be right back to talk more about this when we come back."
[This ends the first segment. See my next post for the segment after the break.]