LotusFlower

I hear ya, but my understanding of reality shows is that the contracts they sign encompass all these things to prevent these kinds of suits. But of course, it could still happen.

Has this ever happened?!! Wow!

Makes sense. Thank you!

Popping in to ask: I think I read that this season was filmed before the last one. If that’s correct, does anyone know why?

A case alleging what? Could not agree more.

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Janelle just posted on IG, thanking everyone for their donations to the cat sanctuary. She said she was really touched. She also said all of Garrison’s cats are “settling in” with Garrison’s siblings, which I think is really nice. Just thought folks would like to know, especially if you donated. ETA: I see someone with more tech skills than me posted this same info. in the Garrison thread, which included Janelle’s actual post, fyi.

Yes, Kody was a bigger presence in the kids’ lives when they lived in Vegas compared to Flagstaff, but I still don’t think he was as involved as you think, and I honestly do NOT think he had a clue what most of them were up to, most of the time. As I remember, the kids either alluded to this, or even said it outright in some of their couch interviews at the end-of-season reunions or wrap-up shows (whatever they’re called), although it was always gently worded. Your example of Kody supporting Gabe with wrestling is a good one, and I won’t dismiss it. But can you think of other things he did to support anyone else? Honestly, I can’t! All I can think of is Kody supporting Aurora and holding her hand as she got her ears pierced! And let’s not forget how Truely got sick and almost died when she was in his care (all the wives were away) because he had no clue what to do! And of course not being there for Ysabel’s surgery, but that happened in the Flagstaff era, which leads me to your bewilderment re: Kody not visiting his older kids. I think it’s pretty simple: the kids have chosen sides. He doesn’t travel or hang out with them because he’s likely not welcome. And besides, Robyn probably doesn’t allow it. He made decisions that divided the family, and made no attempt to fix it. And now with the Garrison tragedy, it might be irreparable.

Thanks for sharing. It’ll be fascinating to see if/how Kody participates.

He died almost a week ago. I think it’s pretty well established that his death was ruled a suicide. And yes, it appears this article was written by a “staffer” at People magazine who did nothing but transcribe social media posts. But I just see that as lazy reporting. If any of the Brown kids are reading this, it’s nothing they haven’t already read themselves on IG. I forgot about that; that’s a good point. Remember all of Christine’s “exclusives” with People? Like you pointed out, it’s likely the family isn’t talking yet, so they resort to social media posts. I'm guessing Janelle will eventually give an interview to the magazine.

I agree that the report was a compilation of social media posts, but can I ask why you thought it was disrespectful?

First off, I don’t even accept the premise that he was an involved father before Robyn entered the picture. Yes, we saw him with all the kids in those early seasons, but it looked like he was just “playing dad” for the cameras. I remember one episode where Janelle was discussing either a disciplinary or emotional problem with one of the boys, and first they had to wait for one of Kody’s “visits” to even address it. Then I remember Kody and the son (I think it was Garrison) being very awkward and uncomfortable around each other, and it was left for Janelle to follow up and handle. Secondly, those of us that watched from the beginning remember Logan getting the younger kids ready for school and taking on a lot of parental responsibilities. More importantly, I think Kody’s involvement in his kids’ lives, or lack there of, is part of polygamy culture. Before I started watching this show, I honestly (and naively) thought polygamous families all lived together. One big (happy?) family. Or lived in the same compound, at least. I think that’s sometimes the case, but I’ve since learned that more common is men having multiple families, with multiple homes, with the husband/fathers jumping from home to home. And the kids are the mother’s kids, with the father acting merely as a sperm donor. Kody, of course, has always referred to his own kids as “Janelle’s kids” or “Christine’s kids,” etc. This has always stood out to me. With fury. Bottom line: yes, Kody is a father, but raising kids in a polygamous family is really different than in monogamous ones. The narcissistic, patriarchal, King-like mentality means the mothers do all the work, and the fathers are usually absent, uninvolved, and often disinterested.

Exactly! Great point.

It’s about RESPECT. They didn’t respect his rules. And he’s such a stubborn m-f that he decided to withhold his role in their lives until they apologized to him for disrespecting his rules and living “selfishly” (all his words), in addition to apologizing to Queen Robyn for anything and everything. HE TOLD US THIS WAS THE REASON!!! (Not yelling at you, Laura! I just hate him so so much).

I don’t think anyone’s called it accidental. Janelle became concerned after hearing about troubling texts Garrison sent to the show’s producers, and sent Gabe to go and check on him.