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LotusFlower

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  1. Janelle just posted on IG, thanking everyone for their donations to the cat sanctuary. She said she was really touched. She also said all of Garrison’s cats are “settling in” with Garrison’s siblings, which I think is really nice. Just thought folks would like to know, especially if you donated. ETA: I see someone with more tech skills than me posted this same info. in the Garrison thread, which included Janelle’s actual post, fyi.
  2. Yes, Kody was a bigger presence in the kids’ lives when they lived in Vegas compared to Flagstaff, but I still don’t think he was as involved as you think, and I honestly do NOT think he had a clue what most of them were up to, most of the time. As I remember, the kids either alluded to this, or even said it outright in some of their couch interviews at the end-of-season reunions or wrap-up shows (whatever they’re called), although it was always gently worded. Your example of Kody supporting Gabe with wrestling is a good one, and I won’t dismiss it. But can you think of other things he did to support anyone else? Honestly, I can’t! All I can think of is Kody supporting Aurora and holding her hand as she got her ears pierced! And let’s not forget how Truely got sick and almost died when she was in his care (all the wives were away) because he had no clue what to do! And of course not being there for Ysabel’s surgery, but that happened in the Flagstaff era, which leads me to your bewilderment re: Kody not visiting his older kids. I think it’s pretty simple: the kids have chosen sides. He doesn’t travel or hang out with them because he’s likely not welcome. And besides, Robyn probably doesn’t allow it. He made decisions that divided the family, and made no attempt to fix it. And now with the Garrison tragedy, it might be irreparable.
  3. Thanks for sharing. It’ll be fascinating to see if/how Kody participates.
  4. He died almost a week ago. I think it’s pretty well established that his death was ruled a suicide. And yes, it appears this article was written by a “staffer” at People magazine who did nothing but transcribe social media posts. But I just see that as lazy reporting. If any of the Brown kids are reading this, it’s nothing they haven’t already read themselves on IG. I forgot about that; that’s a good point. Remember all of Christine’s “exclusives” with People? Like you pointed out, it’s likely the family isn’t talking yet, so they resort to social media posts. I'm guessing Janelle will eventually give an interview to the magazine.
  5. I agree that the report was a compilation of social media posts, but can I ask why you thought it was disrespectful?
  6. First off, I don’t even accept the premise that he was an involved father before Robyn entered the picture. Yes, we saw him with all the kids in those early seasons, but it looked like he was just “playing dad” for the cameras. I remember one episode where Janelle was discussing either a disciplinary or emotional problem with one of the boys, and first they had to wait for one of Kody’s “visits” to even address it. Then I remember Kody and the son (I think it was Garrison) being very awkward and uncomfortable around each other, and it was left for Janelle to follow up and handle. Secondly, those of us that watched from the beginning remember Logan getting the younger kids ready for school and taking on a lot of parental responsibilities. More importantly, I think Kody’s involvement in his kids’ lives, or lack there of, is part of polygamy culture. Before I started watching this show, I honestly (and naively) thought polygamous families all lived together. One big (happy?) family. Or lived in the same compound, at least. I think that’s sometimes the case, but I’ve since learned that more common is men having multiple families, with multiple homes, with the husband/fathers jumping from home to home. And the kids are the mother’s kids, with the father acting merely as a sperm donor. Kody, of course, has always referred to his own kids as “Janelle’s kids” or “Christine’s kids,” etc. This has always stood out to me. With fury. Bottom line: yes, Kody is a father, but raising kids in a polygamous family is really different than in monogamous ones. The narcissistic, patriarchal, King-like mentality means the mothers do all the work, and the fathers are usually absent, uninvolved, and often disinterested.
  7. It’s about RESPECT. They didn’t respect his rules. And he’s such a stubborn m-f that he decided to withhold his role in their lives until they apologized to him for disrespecting his rules and living “selfishly” (all his words), in addition to apologizing to Queen Robyn for anything and everything. HE TOLD US THIS WAS THE REASON!!! (Not yelling at you, Laura! I just hate him so so much).
  8. I don’t think anyone’s called it accidental. Janelle became concerned after hearing about troubling texts Garrison sent to the show’s producers, and sent Gabe to go and check on him.
  9. Yes, TLC exploited this family, but the Browns signed up for it, and came back year after year. When the show started, most of the kids were really young, so they had no say in regards to their participation in this circus. Kody - and all the wives - are responsible for that. As clichéd as it sounds, it must really be true: fame is like a drug. They couldn’t give it up. (Along with the easy money, of course). Garrison’s purported text to producers (paraphrasing: “it’s hard to see footage from the early days…I miss those days”) is heartbreaking. Gabe and Garrison’s anguish and anger at their father was palpable, and Janelle even discussed her worry over Garrison internalizing his pain. The red flags were everywhere. And yet they all decided to keep filming.
  10. They’ve already been filming, maybe even a season’s worth. So it’s probably up to TLC as to whether or not it’s aired. But I hope that’s it.
  11. I doubt it as well. Have we ever seen Kody acknowledge faults? Apologize? No. He’s always right, and he’s always the victim. I wrote earlier that tragedies like this can often bring a family together, or rip them apart, and I think the latter will happen here. I can’t imagine any scenario where Gabriel, in particular, will ever forgive his father.
  12. But the texts are so revelatory, aren’t they? About the exploitation of reality tv? Maybe, down the road, that could lead to changes…do some good.
  13. More details. It’s horrible: https://www.tmz.com/2024/03/06/sister-wives-star-garrison-brown-sent-text-janelle-before-suicide-death/
  14. A world with reality tv. And social media and the internet. Like it or not, this family has put their lives on tv for over 13 years, and people are invested. They (or somebody close to them) probably knew a site like TMZ would find out and spill the news quickly (one podcaster actually listened to police scanners!), so I think it was smart of them to post the news themselves.
  15. I agree with you, but when has the family ever voted on anything? Actually, I think there was a time when they pretended to vote, but we all know Kody and Robyn always got their way. The only power they have over participation (as adults) is whether or not to film (see: Logan, Leon), so I suppose those that vote no could refuse to film. But what about scenes that are already in the can? Ultimately, I feel like it’s TLC’s decision. It's possible they’ll air the already-filmed scenes with a disclaimer that they were filmed before the tragedy. And then maybe it’ll end? IDK!!
  16. Good point, and I’m with you 💯%, but sadly, most gun owners double down on their gun-toting POV’s, even after incidents like this. And Kody isn’t exactly a reflective, take-stock kind of guy. I’m not optimistic.
  17. I believe they’ve been filming, so it’ll be interesting to see how they handle this. I agree that it feels wrong to continue, but TLC has milked everything out of this family, so who knows. I also agree that after publicly trashing his sons, including Garrison, I don’t see how Kody can come back from that. Not now. Knowing how stubborn and narcissistic he is, I just don’t see him talking about this tragedy in any kind of remorseful way. A tragedy like this can either bring a family closer together, or rip it apart. With Kody already estranged from almost everybody, along with all the pre-existing bitterness, I think it might be the latter. I was devastated reading this news, and came here first to grieve with all of you. We love to snark on the show and ass-hat Kody, but I think we’ve all been rooting for the kids, so this is heartbreaking.
  18. I think there’s a third meaning: something akin to jealousy. She’s jealous and mad at what happened to the family, and that very public smooch was her way of saying “look at me, look how happy and in love we are” as the rest of the family revels in Christine’s happiness.
  19. I thought it was sad that Gwen wasn’t there. But I love that Kidney had to watch this - his (almost) entire family gather and laugh and dance and have a great time at a huge party without him. He and his ego weren’t the star, he wasn’t in control, he wasn’t the patriarch, he wasn’t the center of attention, heck, he wasn’t even there! Christine, the wife he rejected, is surrounded by all the kids, and so much love. And then there’s Kidney, stuck with sour puss Robyn, who dances like a pole.
  20. Wow. I really thought this was it. Damn. Thanks for the info.
  21. Christine and Kody had six kids together, and it was never a happy marriage. But I agree with you on the other stuff. Do you know for sure their party was filmed and/or there’s going to be another season, or is it just speculation? I’m very invested in the answer!
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