S11.E09: This Land is Your Land...or Hers?

[crimson23]

1 hour ago, suomi said:

My cat watched the whole show, including the commercials, perched on the end of the bed with her ears pricked forward. She does that with Planet Earth or Dr Jeff or The Zoo. So I guess she thought the energy on sister wives tonight was coming from animals - and she wasn't wrong, was she?

Hilarious.  My dog barks at the tv when  any animal is on screen.   I firmly believe Meri deserves to live up in the trees, with the rest of the squirrels and their nuts.

[crimson23]

28 minutes ago, LotusFlower said:

Also the time when she was deciding whether or not to try IVF - she kept saying “I’m not sure yet....I need more time to think about it...”. And this went on for months, if not years.  Finally Kody said forget it, and I don’t blame him.  

She’s so indecisive, but as others have pointed out, it’s more than that - it’s also about weilding power and influence and manipulating people.  I really can’t stand her.  

right, its the wishy washy thing she does.  She made Robyn wait for over a year while she made her decision about the surrogacy. She hemmed and hawed about trying other methods, when the whole idea was ridiculous. At that point, the doctors told her her eggs were less viable due to her age. 

[ginger90]

Janelle is the only one that tweeted last night:

 

[trimthatfat]

4 hours ago, Tdoc72 said:

Am I the only one who doesn’t understand what Meri did wrong?  He told her where she was going and why (trees) and she said I don’t know b/c of the light. She didn’t say yes or no. So Kody tells Robin she said no and that Robin can have it, which isn’t what Meri said at all. They really should’ve asked the cameraman for the footage. If Kody needed a firm decision, then he should’ve told Meri that. 

Kody & Robin really annoyed me this episode. Surprisingly Meri didn’t. Janelle and Christine are still cool. 

I don’t get it either. And quite frankly, this all should have been figured out before they moved. Meri can be manipulative, but I do think she’s thinking long-term about her place in the family and accordingly, it affects her willingness to commit to the land. Because once that home is built, she’s basically saying she’s staying for some time.

Kody was fine with Meri until Robyn came into the picture so I am not sympathetic towards him at all. Robyn does the same thing Meri does! She’s just as manipulative.

[DakotaJustice]

5 hours ago, suomi said:

Meri can't live in the B&B. A part of the reconfigured loan that allowed the purchase without help from the family was that it was commercial property and not a residence for her. She cannot live there.

I think it's the opposite - you're referring to the Second Home Rider that says she's not supposed to be using it as an inn.

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

Janelle is the only one that tweeted last night:

 

Janelle, spreading the bullshit like Skippy on Fritos.

[Chicklet]

Just because I was half asleep watching this shitshow-forget that issue at the moment, what the FRESH HELL was this "argument" even about? It changed so many times in an hour I was dizzy, and I was lying down half asleep. Robyn is a stealth bitch and Meri just hasn't got the guts do what she really wants, which is leave that brillo-headed idiot.

Ok his hair looks more like ramen noodles, I agree.

Edited March 2, 2020 by Chicklet

[LydiaE]

Geez. I hope Janelle’s youngest daughter still has a close bond with Christine because it’s a very real possibility that Janelle is living on borrowed time.

Janelle sounded like she was experiencing a cardiac event after what seemed like a relatively leisurely stroll with Christine. That is scary!

[Kyanight]

8 hours ago, Adeejay said:

Someone should probably remind Meri that she no longer has the honor and privileges that comes with being the first wife.

Really? Like WHAT?  ::::Snort:::::      Any "privileges" go to the most forceful and insistent and demanding and entitled wife, regardless of which number wife she is.   Being first doesn't give you diddley squat except sometimes a license.

[VedaPierce]

8 hours ago, LotusFlower said:

Kody said, of Meri: there wasn’t a problem until Meri said “I don’t want this, I don’t want that, but I don’t know what I want.”  Sorry, but he’s right.

The show’s been on long enough that we’ve all seen this a million times before.  Meri’s passive-aggressiveness, her selfishness, her indecisiveness, her sulking, her wet bar, her French doors, her daughter’s college tuition, her b&b, her trees, etc...  Man, it’s exhausting.

And she HATES being called out on it. When they do, she interprets it as an attack on her. She’s a vile woman. 

[65mickey]

Meri won't exit from the family if it means exiting from the TLC show. Why should she lose the $$? If I were Meri I would be talking to the producers of Sister Wives about a season based on Meri leaving Kodi and living on her own. But I think Meri will hang in there because she is basically very insecure and needs a man. The divorce from Kody and the subsequent catfishing left her a broken person with very little self esteem. And to top this off she has a self righteous selfish daughter who seems to have very little love for her mom. 

[VedaPierce]

8 hours ago, Adeejay said:

Kody said that Robyn was the only wife who apologized to him. I think I missed something, because I don’t know what Christine and Janelle said or did that would warrant an apology.

I’m pretty sure he meant between Robyn and Meri but is too chicken shit to flat out say it and name names. Their fucked up dynamic has been danced for over 20 years. It’s very hard to break dysfunctional behaviors. Their roles that they play are ingrained in their beings. Sick. So much unhealthyness on display last night. I was glued to every minute of it!
 

And what was that little nugget about none of the kids being allowed to go through Meri’s living room to get back to Janelle’s side of the LEEEEEE-HIIIII! (Podcast 😉 ) house?? Then they cut to the outside door and the implication was that the kids had to use that to go to the other side of the house??? In the winter??? What in the holy hell is THAT all about??? WHAT. A. BITCH. She is a mean, angry, awful person and deserves every tear she sheds. 

Edited March 2, 2020 by VedaPierce

[Kyanight]

2 minutes ago, VedaPierce said:

I’m pretty sure he meant between Robyn and Meri but is too chicken shit to flat out say it and name names. Their fucked up dynamic has been danced for over 20 years. It’s very hard to break dysfunctional behaviors. Their roles that they play are ingrained in their beings. Sick. So much unhealthyness on display last night. I was glued to every minute of it!
 

 

HA HA HA HA HA!!!!     Sorry, I hate to write a post with nothing but "LOL", but clicking a little laughing face icon didn't do this justice!

[Mahamid Frauded Me]

I get that rentals are scarce in Flag. I only heard it like 50 times last night. But dang, not only is Janelle a slob, but that house depresses me. It would annoy me to no end to see my underwear spinning in the kitchen.  Could she not find a spot to put all that cleaning crap away ? Clutter just bugs me. Was that a no-smoking sign plastered on the front door ? 

Also in the previews where Robyn is saying the lord is telling her to rent rather than buy , he must have skimmed over her about how she should pay her VS bill.

Andy Kody and pronouncing lawyer make me chuckle 

[Rabbit Hutch]

2 minutes ago, VedaPierce said:

And she HATES being called out on it. When they do, she interprets it as an attack on her. She’s a vile woman. 

AMEN.  I dislike Kootie intensely but he has Meri pegged, here.  She put him through hell for about 2 years re the baby decision until he finally got fed up and put his foot down.  Same thing with the Queen of Darkness (aka Robyn) and the surragacy, Meri strung that out as long as she could.  Honestly, I believe she never wanted another baby, it was just a vile power play.

Then Meri whined about him making the choice without her.  Sorry Meri, but life does goes on, and I can't BELIEVE I'm saying this but I'm with Kootie (aka Shriley Tenple) on this one. After 30 years I'd be sick of it, too.

Poor Janelle and Christine, they don't count at all in any of this.  This is strictly between the 2 narcissists and the sociopath.  The best these two can do is just stay out of the line of fire.  😕

I can only wish them both well, and that Christine has the sense to hang on to her purchased house, for Kody is attempting to gain a mental and/or emotional foothold on the idea of actually getting rid of Little Plague on the Prairie, and head on back to Utah. If polygamy remains decriminalized then the family can indeed go back. I think that is Kootie's next story line, either with or without Robyn and Day-un.  🤫

[AZChristian]

Back when they were building the McMansions in LV, I seem to remember that Meri HAD to have the lot she ended up with so that Mariah wouldn't have to deal with the morning sun coming into her bedroom window.  It didn't matter that 20ish other kids didn't have the ruling choice of where their windows should face.

Now that she is on the receiving end of the s****y stick, she's not happy.  

What am I saying . . . she's never happy unless she's at Disneyland or on a LLR cruise.

[VedaPierce]

6 hours ago, LotusFlower said:

She’s so indecisive, but as others have pointed out, it’s more than that - it’s also about weilding power and influence and manipulating people.  I really can’t stand her.  

This. It’s pure control. She will never make any firm decisions, ever. It keeps everyone waiting, and even sometimes trying to get her to make a decision that would benefit one or the other. It’s a total power play and last night she was FINALLY called on her antics. Kody did a clumsy job of it because none of these morons know how to communicate clearly, but I understood exactly what he was getting at. 
 

and did Janelle just discover the phrase “tracking”...ie: She wasn’t tracking...he was tracking...she used that phrase 3 times between the last 2 episodes. I guess “tracking” is Janelle’s new “rock star” 🙄

[MMLEsq]

10 hours ago, poeticlicensed said:

I haven't been watching this show consistently , so does Meri live alone? Why is her rental house so huge?

Yes, she lives alone -- although in theory Kody should be spending 1/4th of his time there (I doubt he actually spends 1/10th of his time there).

I know this has been discussed in different SW-related threads, but I can't remember if there ever was a definitive answer as to how the money gets split between the wives.  It seems to me....although I welcome correction if I'm wrong....that generally money is split evenly between the wives or, at the very least, the number of children any wife has doesn't seem to factor much into the calculations.  So, Janelle, Christine and Robyn have had to cover food, clothes, wedding expenses (in the case of Janelle and Christine), living expenses, etc. for multiple children, while Meri has been an empty nester for years.  Why she feels that she "needs" a huge rental house is mind-boggling.  We've heard discussions ad nauseam on the show about how the quick sales of the homes in Vegas and the resulting incoming funds are critical, yet Meri doesn't seem to be willing to "take one for the team" and just live in an apartment.  (Just did a quick Google search and, per apartments.com, there are currently 374 apartments for rent in Flagstaff.)  If she's unwilling to make such a sacrifice, you would think that she might want to spend less on rent so that she could stash away some of the money that she's currently spending -- that way she'd have a nest egg if she ever decides to leave.  

[Libby]

This family has had the same dynamic since the show began. Meri and Robyn are the trouble makers. Meri is an overt trouble maker while Robyn is a sneaky trouble maker. She causes trouble behind the scenes, when she's alone with Kody. Robyn always wins. Whatever happens to the other three or anything that they get, has been predetermined by Robyn. She is running that family.

As much as I enjoy the fact that Meri brought Robyn into the family to hurt Janelle and Christine and then ended up getting hurt the most by Robyn, just once I would like to see Robyn get what's coming to her.

As other posters have said, it will only happen if Kody takes a new wife.

[Kyanight]

4 minutes ago, MMLEsq said:

Yes, she lives alone -- although in theory Kody should be spending 1/4th of his time there (I doubt he actually spends 1/10th of his time there).

I know this has been discussed in different SW-related threads, but I can't remember if there ever was a definitive answer as to how the money gets split between the wives.  It seems to me....although I welcome correction if I'm wrong....that generally money is split evenly between the wives or, at the very least, the number of children any wife has doesn't seem to factor much into the calculations.  So, Janelle, Christine and Robyn have had to cover food, clothes, wedding expenses (in the case of Janelle and Christine), living expenses, etc. for multiple children, while Meri has been an empty nester for years.  Why she feels that she "needs" a huge rental house is mind-boggling.  We've heard discussions ad nauseam on the show about how the quick sales of the homes in Vegas and the resulting incoming funds are critical, yet Meri doesn't seem to be willing to "take one for the team" and just live in an apartment.  (Just did a quick Google search and, per apartments.com, there are currently 374 apartments for rent in Flagstaff.)  If she's unwilling to make such a sacrifice, you would think that she might want to spend less on rent so that she could stash away some of the money that she's currently spending -- that way she'd have a nest egg if she ever decides to leave.  

She needs all that room for her racks and racks of ugly Lularoe rags.   But you seriously bring up a valid point - why CAN'T these entitled women live in a ::::GASP!!!!:::: APARTMENT??  Renting is renting.  And since Meri doesn't have any kids at home... but no.  That makes too much sense.

[SunnyBeBe]

Robyn hasn't demonstrated enough on the show to tell me that she's clever enough to run things. Her reasoning reminds me of when I was 8 years old and didn't understand why we couldn't keep a pony on our carport.  She just seems stuck in maturity and sophistication of a very young girl.  This is why Kody exasperates her.  She has no real skills to manage the life of a family, but, is spoiled enough to just demand what she wants or thinks she deserves. 

Edited March 2, 2020 by SunnyBeBe

[Soup333]

44 minutes ago, VedaPierce said:

And what was that little nugget about none of the kids being allowed to go through Meri’s living room to get back to Janelle’s side of the LEEEEEE-HIIIII! (Podcast 😉 ) house?? Then they cut to the outside door and the implication was that the kids had to use that to go to the other side of the house??? In the winter??? What in the holy hell is THAT all about??? WHAT. A. BITCH. She is a mean, angry, awful person and deserves every tear she sheds. 

I picked up on this as well. And with this knowledge it makes the MOST sense to me that Christine would never want to live together again and that Janelle would make a big deal about having equal access to that pond. Meri would lord that shit over them until her death. 

Also, Meri once said Mariah was 9 years old when they moved into the Lehi house. So both Christine and Janelle already had 4-5 children. If she didn't want the kids going through her house why didn't she just take the bottom apartment?

Edited March 2, 2020 by Soup333

[bichonblitz]

So now we know for sure Meri has been a stealth bitch from Day 1. 

I'm so sick of Sobbyn pretending to love her sister wives so much she will do anything to keep them all together. Such sacrifices she has had to make. When will she stop saying it was Kody's idea to move to Flagstaff when we know Dayton was going to school there and that's why they up and moved. All for Robyn! 

Also, Janelle's rental house is a shithole. 

Also, also. If these idiots signed leases, then they can't be forced to move until the lease expires. If the owner wants to sell that's fine but the new owners have to honor the lease that is in place until it expires. You don't just kick people out because you want to sell. That is what a LEASE is for. Another made up storyline. 

Edited March 2, 2020 by bichonblitz
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[SongbirdHollow]

Meri you petulant bitch! Make a fucking decision for once in your life. 

[Phoebe70]

6 hours ago, crimson23 said:

right, its the wishy washy thing she does.  She made Robyn wait for over a year while she made her decision about the surrogacy. She hemmed and hawed about trying other methods, when the whole idea was ridiculous. At that point, the doctors told her her eggs were less viable due to her age. 

I don’t even think she’s being indecisive. I think she knows exactly what she’s doing. It’s all about exerting power and control. The only problem is, she’s no longer HBIC. If I were Kody, when she threatened to move to Parowan, my parting words to her would be, “Bye Felicia!”

What a petty, conniving twit she is. 

[SongbirdHollow]

If they want to be a family unit again, I would suggest a mandatory group family dinner/day weekly for everyone living in Flagstaff. It can rotate properties or be held in a neutral location but I think if they do this weekly they won’t have any problems agreeing to live as far apart as possible. 

[kicotan]

1 hour ago, Mahamid Frauded Me said:

Was that a no-smoking sign plastered on the front door ? 

I doubt that was Janelle that did that...it is probably plastered on every rental that the slumlord, I mean landlord owns.

I literally laughed out loud at Kody finally letting his hair down (sorry couldn’t help myself) about how he rillly fills about Meri’s fucked up attitude when it comes to communicating with her wives and husband.  “She’s not going to be happy until you are all bowing down...”

Remember when they used to show them at therapy and she whined about not filling “safe”to talk?  She’s one of those chicks that I’d stay faaaaaaaaaar away from if I met her in real life.  There is way too much crazy going on behind those beady eyes.

Edited March 2, 2020 by kicotan

[AZChristian]

18 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

Also, also. If these idiots signed leases, then they can't be forced to move until the lease expires. If the owner wants to sell that's fine but the new owners have to honor the lease that is in place until it expires. You don't just kick people out because you want to sell. That is what a LEASE is for. Another made up storyline. 

But there are several possibilities, depending on the type of lease.  Found this online:

"Whether you, as a renter, get to stay in the property following the sale (and for how long) depends on what type of agreement you have with the landlord.

• Fixed-term lease. If your lease is for a specific time period—say, one year—you have the right to stay in the rental property until the end of the term. (Renters in locations subject to tenant-protection laws or rent control might be able to stay even longer.) The new owner/landlord can't evict you (unless there is a legal reason for the eviction) or raise the rent during this period.
• Fixed-term lease with a special provision (a right of termination). Some leases specifically say that a sale of the property automatically ends the lease. If your lease contains this provision and your landlord sells the property, your lease terminates. You will have to move out or (if given the option) sign a lease with the new owner.
• Rental agreement. If you have a rental agreement, the new owner can terminate your tenancy by giving you the amount of notice required by law. Most states’ notice laws require 30 days’ notice to terminate month-to-month rental agreements."

Given the stupidity of the Browns and what I assume to be a higher level of wisdom on the part of the property owner(s), I'd assume either the second or third option is more likely.  And even in the case of the first option, if those yahoos (who don't much like living up to financial obligations) pay their rent late, that's possible grounds to evict them as well.

 

[Meowwww]

Meri sitting there saying SHE hasn’t chosen where she wants to live....yet.  I mean, WT actual F?   So they all will have to wait till she chooses? As usual.  Meri went from hero to zero this episode.  And she was never a hero.  
And she made the kids go outside in the winter to get to Christine’s unit in the Lehi house?   Good for Janelle, sticking up for pond access.  I just know Meri will choose the pond plot and have a fit about any sort of easement.  
Kody finally blowing up and calling out Meri’s crap was great. 
Robyn...went from “I’m not a victim here!” to complaining about how she never had a choice.  
I just can’t with those two.  

[MelissaMinion]

11 minutes ago, kicotan said:

I doubt that was Janelle that did that...it is probably plastered on every rental that the landlord owns.

I literally laughed out loud at Kody finally letting his hair down (sorry couldn’t help myself) about how he rillly fills about Meri’s fucked up attitude when it comes to communicating with her wives and husband.  “She’s not going to be happy until you are all bowing down...”

Remember when they used to show them at therapy and she whined about not filling “safe”to talk?  She’s one of those chicks that I’d stay faaaaaaaaaar away from if I met her in real life.  There is way too much crazy going on behind those beady eyes.

Yeah, her constant "I feel like I am being attacked" is so manipulative. It was good to see the others not really falling for that line this time. 

[queenbee24]

I haven't watched in years but watched last night... and nothing has changed. Meri: I want my house in the trees. But I don't like trees now since I have the  MOST GIGANTIC HOUSE IN FLAGSTAFF FOR JUST ME. But I didn't SAY I don't want to live in the trees. She killed me in the "meeting" saying how she didn't say x or y, but at no time did she ever say where she NOW wants to be. Keep em hanging on Meri. It's so obvious Kodi is just done with her.

I'd like to know Sobbin's end game. I guess pretending to kowtow to Meri's whims lets her be the martyr?

It's nice to see Christine and Janelle get out and walk. I'd have to get away from the sh*t show on the regular.

The only interesting thing for me, not having watched in a hot minute, is how Kody seems much less enamored by Robin. He really seems to dislike both her and Meri, and has nothing more than a friendship with Christine and Janelle. This is gross but wonder if he even sleeps with any of them anymore? Maybe Robin...

[xwordfanatik]

13 hours ago, lettsjetts said:

  They said "sit here" 5 times in that 3 min clip.  

I hate that!  Robyn's the main offender, and she always sounds like an idiot.

[DakotaJustice]

1 hour ago, 65mickey said:

Meri won't exit from the family if it means exiting from the TLC show. Why should she lose the $$? If I were Meri I would be talking to the producers of Sister Wives about a season based on Meri leaving Kodi and living on her own. But I think Meri will hang in there because she is basically very insecure and needs a man. The divorce from Kody and the subsequent catfishing left her a broken person with very little self esteem. And to top this off she has a self righteous selfish daughter who seems to have very little love for her mom. 

And not only that - the sole reason she's doing well at LLN is due to her "celebrity" from the show. 

[SunnyBeBe]

Robyn's, "I'll take the leftovers, no, really, it's okay, I don't mind....." oh my, so pitiful.  This is the part where we are supposed to fill sorry for her.  lol  I don't give her much credit, but, I do think she's a big "poser."  She is good at that. 

[AryasMum]

12 hours ago, suev33 3 said:

But I wanted to be closest to the pond!!!!  Its just not fair!!  (Stomping feet). Waaah  wah waahh😭😭😭   not fair!!! My mansion isnt big enough! 🙄🙄

Janelle is obsessed with that pond and access to it. Is it that difficult to realize she should take that plot?  

10 hours ago, Fostersmom said:

The solution would be, the wives sit down, figure it out, and then tell Kody what they decided. But then, you know, Kody couldn't pretend he's the big man and making all the decisions. 

Kody makes everything worse.  The wives should get together without him and sort it all out, then tell Kody their decision. 

[Kyanight]

7 minutes ago, queenbee24 said:

The only interesting thing for me, not having watched in a hot minute, is how Kody seems much less enamored by Robin

Really?  You thought so?  I think the excitement has worn off, but she is clearly the favorite.  He jumped to her defense at getting "the leavings, the leftovers, having last choice" and continued defending her.  He doesn't give a crap about wife 2 and 3, and he openly dislikes Meri.   Since when has Robyn EVER had the scraps.  I doubt the other wives are living in million dollar houses.

[SunnyBeBe]

The only succinct things that I recall Meri doing was giving notice of her wet bar, announcing Maria's college choice and purchasing the B&B.  It seems that everything else has been like pulling teeth. 

[Kyanight]

Just now, SunnyBeBe said:

The only succinct things that I recall Meri doing was giving notice of her wet bar, announcing Maria's college choice and purchasing the B&B.  It seems that everything else has been like pulling teeth. 

And don't forget the catfishing!  And the catfishing... and catfishing... ad nauseam!

[65mickey]

Just what is Janelle planning to do with the pond go swimming, fishing. boating? It's an ugly hole in the ground with poluted water. Why is Kody's lawyer advising him on the value of the land? Is he a real estate developer?  This was filmed a year ago. Since then Robyn got her million $ home after the daughter had a panic attack.  What did Meri get?  

3 minutes ago, Kyanight said:

Really?  You thought so?  I think the excitement has worn off, but she is clearly the favorite.  He jumped to her defense at getting "the leavings, the leftovers, having last choice" and continued defending her.  He doesn't give a crap about wife 2 and 3, and he openly dislikes Meri.   Since when has Robyn EVER had the scraps.  I doubt the other wives are living in million dollar houses.

YES!

[xwordfanatik]

8 hours ago, suomi said:

Kody: I don't know how to cure what ells us.

Robyn: Sometimes you have to figure out what heel you want to die on.

I'm sorry, but constantly havng to translate what they're saying gets in the  way. And I'm someone who enjoys accents.

That first fight scene lasted an entire 30 minutes.

My cat watched the whole show, including the commercials, perched on the end of the bed with her ears pricked forward. She does that with Planet Earth or Dr Jeff or The Zoo. So I guess she thought the energy on sister wives tonight was coming from animals - and she wasn't wrong, was she?

My precious departed cat used to love Animal Planet.  We worked swing shift and left the TV on for him.  I agree, Kootie and his wimmin folk act like animals fighting over a fresh kill.

The way they pronounce words...I have no words.  I've never heard anyone in rill life talk like they do. 

[tinderbox]

1 hour ago, Rabbit Hutch said:

Poor Janelle and Christine, they don't count at all in any of this.  This is strictly between the 2 narcissists and the sociopath.  The best these two can do is just stay out of the line of fire.  😕

🤫

They’re keeping out of it because the know they are sitting pretty with the best lot choices.  I wonder how that all went down?  I thought for sure favorite wife Robin would have had first choice.  It seems she didn’t and that’s one if the main reasons Kody is beside himself.  Would he be this upset if it were Meri vs Janelle or Meri vs Christine?

[Lady of nod]

12 hours ago, poeticlicensed said:

If I wanted to listen to a neverending argument, I would just go have dinner with my relatives. Why am I listening to this? 

I haven't been watching this show consistently , so does Meri live alone? Why is her rental house so huge?. And what is up with Kodys hair?

Kody needs to stay out of the wind.

[LilaFowler]

6 minutes ago, tinderbox said:

They’re keeping out of it because the know they are sitting pretty with the best lot choices.  I wonder how that all went down?  I thought for sure favorite wife Robin would have had first choice.  It seems she didn’t and that’s one if the main reasons Kody is beside himself.  Would he be this upset if it were Meri vs Janelle or Meri vs Christine?

He'd wave his hands and say "you figure it out, let me know what you decide." He would not care this much.

Where Robyn lives is where he will be spending the majority of his time. He's trying to get the best lot for himself. He must really not want to live in the trees.

[Kyanight]

3 minutes ago, Lady of nod said:

Kody needs to stay out of the wind.

No, lol!  Don't say that!  With this show, watching his Ramon Noodle strands whip around in the gale (and almost get slammed in the car door!) is the only entertainment sometimes!  It's fascinating how awful it is yet he believes he's Fabio!

[Madding crowd]

I don’t think Meri did anything wrong. I’m convinced she had last choice and said she would go with it until she discovered it was so dark. If you look at the drawing the other wives are close together and she is stuck way back.

Robyn plays both sides to retain her favorite wife status. By pretending to be on the other wives side she stops them from complaining about Kody getting all of her time. I think the way they all treat Meri is disgusting and I hope she gets out. Let the others beg creep Kody for a few minutes of his time. 

[toodles]

38 minutes ago, xwordfanatik said:

I hate that!  Robyn's the main offender, and she always sounds like an idiot.

I'm sittin' here, like, agreein ' with you.  Like, I'm sittin' here, like wishin' I could like this post, like a thousand times.

[Fostersmom]

1 hour ago, Soup333 said:

Also, Meri once said Mariah was 9 years old when they moved into the Lehi house. So both Christine and Janelle already had 4-5 children. If she didn't want the kids going through her house why didn't she just take the bottom apartment?

She didn't want to have to live UNDER the kids who were undoubtedly running around, jumping up and down, just banging on the floors in general. 

1 hour ago, Pegasaurus said:

They could run gas generators.  And dump the gray/black water in the lovely pond. 

There's not even running water out there. There's supposedly a well, but there's no way to draw from it that I can't tell. 

[tinderbox]

53 minutes ago, AryasMum said:

 

Kody makes everything worse.  The wives should get together without him and sort it all out, then tell Kody their decision. 

Let’s face it....  HE spends most of his time at Robin’s house so HE wants her to have, what HE considers, to be the “best” plot of land.  HE must be involved in the decision making to achieve this goal.  

[SunnyBeBe]

To me, either be assertive, say this is what I want and why....nothing wrong with that. OR be a truly selfless person and let others have first choice.  That is taught in the Bible and is also a great way to go.  But, you don't brag on being selfless.  It sort of defeats the purpose.  Just pick a lane and stay in it. 

[Emmeline]

18 hours ago, suzywallis said:

I have to say, I agree with those of you who predicted that this might be the last season.  They keep beating the same storyline to death!.  These people just detest each other and Kody the douchbag is fanning the flames like the big drama queen that he is. 

I would sincerely like to believe this, however, considering how TLC beats their shows to death (ig: Say Yes to the Dress) I think it will go on.  I only watch bits and pieces between 90 Day Fiance and Pillow Talk.  I continue to hate Kody for a variety of reasons.

[islandgal140]

This episode had my rapt attention and yet still I found the argument kinda confusing.

Mr. Islanggal140 is a blues lover and I couldn't help but think of the lyrics to the Lead Belly song "In the Pines" when they were all discussing Meri living amongst the trees:

My girl, my girl, don't lie to me
Tell me where did you sleep last night
In the pines, in the pines
Where the sun don't ever shine
I would shiver the whole night through

My girl, my girl, where will you go
I'm going where the cold wind blows
In the pines, in the pines
Where the sun don't ever shine
I would shiver the whole night through

As problematic as I find Kody, I for one was happy to see him finally have enough of Meri's shit last night. Meri does enjoy holding the family hostage with her indecisiveness. Others have mentioned it but the IVF situation is a perfect example. Kody entertained the "will Meri do IVF" talks for a while, too long actually. He wanted a decision from Meri, which she really never gave. She was really wishy washy about it and it went on for at least 2 seasons. Robyn actually offered to tote the egg (tm Angela 90 days) right after she gave birth to Solomon but Meri refused to say yes or no. Kody finally wanted a definitive yeah or nay because they would need to make medical/financial arrangements and figure out timing issues in case Robyn and him wanted another, as Robyn was at or nearing the age when fertility radically drops. But still Meri dragged her feet and wouldn't give an answer despite always claiming her biggest regret was not have more kids.  Kody finally was like "if you can't make a decision, then I will" and nixed it. It was one of the few times that I was in Kody's corner. No one can convince me that Meri wasn't enjoying it. 

As much as I enjoyed Meri being called on her shit, that enjoyment was dampened by Robyn once again "winning." She was at her passive aggressive stealth best and it was the closest I think we have ever gotten to seeing her expose her hand on camera. You can just see how she finagles Kody with her poor put upon Robyn routine. Saying she would take Meri's scraps while Kody said that is what Robyn always gets?!!? Bitch really? Scraps must also include Kody himself because Meri went from #1 and legal wife status to dead last while Robyn pole vaulted over all 3 wives to become the one and only legal wife despite being the last wife to enter the family. 

2 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

Robyn hasn't demonstrated enough on the show to tell me that she's clever enough to run things. Her reasoning reminds me of when I was 8 years old and didn't understand why we couldn't keep a pony on our carport.  She just seems stuck in maturity and sophistication of a very young girl.  This is why Kody exasperates her.  She has no real skills to manage the life of a family, but, is spoiled enough to just demand what she wants or thinks she deserves. 

Robyn doesn't need to be a genius to manipulate that idiot Kody or run the likes of Christine, Meri and Janelle.  As far as this family is concerned she may be an 8 years old but the rest are toddlers. 

How is Janelle still unpacked? Last week she mentioned it being "only weeks" since she moved in. This week must be months because it seems like warmer weather now with all the wives in much lighter jackets and no snow on the ground. 

For someone who is on a fitness journey, Janelle sure was doing a lot of huffing and puffing for someone taking a leisurely hike. 

Christine was the most logical. The land hadn't even been surveyed yet. Wait to discuss house placement and who gets what then.  Maybe they don't even need such square lots.

Can't believe they are fighting over rights to that above ground sewer. 

Edited March 2, 2020 by islandgal140