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44 minutes ago, islandgal140 said:

I was completely unmoved by Cesar and his tears. If I didn't suspect that his tears taste like acetone, ramen noddles, scrambled eggs and abject poverty, I would want to drink them. He is a moron and if Maria winked at him he would, like Dean said on Pillow Talk, be at the Western Union wiring her money within the hour. 

Jesse giving TED talks about life and love at Shady Pines complete with slides with his picture on them killed me softly. Those seniors are worried about regularity and bladder control. I know the saying is it is never to late .... but it is too late.  The home needs to stop bothering them with this mess. 

The best thing that could happen to Mykull is that he has his visa application denied. Big Ang has him on house arrest in Nigeria and will have him locked in the shed in Hazelhurst. She really is an abusive asshole and she has several, several times used a variation of the classic Lifetime movie abuser phrase ... "why do you make me do these things to you." Mykull might as well change his name to Valerie Bertinelli. 

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On 10/28/2019 at 3:23 AM, KateHearts said:

Emma, while you are busy lecturing Darcey (whose self-esteem really can't handle much more) about learning Tom's favorite color, why don't you ask him why he didn't mention his two previous engagements? And his answering a question with a question: "well, did you ever ask?" sealed it for me: he's an asshole. He wants to be on TV, he plays a game with Darcey's emotions, he ghosts her after she and the camera crew leaves.  Really despicable behavior, and I'm not a big Darcey fan.

Rebecca chose the t-shirt comments to make her get up and stomp away? How about showing the scenes of her talking about jumping Zied the second she landed - to her DAUGHTER? (Oh, but she's 21... all is forgiven). Or the fact that she lied about her ongoing divorce? (she got off easy on that). Tim may be annoying as hell, but yeah- wearing your girlfriend's extremely photoshopped face on your flabby belly is a little weird.

I thought the fact that Darcey was not aware if the 2 previous engagements & Tom saying "you never asked" prove Sister Tom's point that Darcey had no interest in getting to "know" Tom.

I would have loved it if Tim would have said "it is freaky for him to put your 10 year old over filtered unrecognizable photo on XXXX- Large tshirt!".

On 10/28/2019 at 4:33 AM, DiamondGirl said:

Ahem - he was quite clear that although he graciously accepted REBicca’s money, it was his sister’s money that paid for the ring.

I wonder if Sister Zied had to pay for the ring because the store would not accept Rebecca's credit card.  

On 10/28/2019 at 4:44 AM, Baltimore Betty said:
On 10/28/2019 at 7:04 AM, Bryce Lynch said:

If that really is Maria and not some actress, she probably has multiple Caesers she is scamming.

Oh, you know she has more Caesar's she is scamming!  I'm sure  TLC had to fork out quite a bit of money to get her to agree to be on camera & blow her US cover.  

Just watched a bit of Part 2...Big Ang has appointed herself the TLC hostess.... bringing Jessie in to introduce him around,  feeling it's her responsibility to defend him.  What a crazy bitch! Could not believe when she said: "I never seen no Muslim treat their elder with no respect!"  

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13 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

...a golem made up of rotting pork fat, stale cigarettes, high fructose corn syrup, and skunked beer.,

Hahahahaha, I'm always looking for new adjectives to describe her.

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30 minutes ago, A-Lo said:

In a preview clip we were shown Akini saying "I like the way Michael talks" in a smiley, flirty way only to be met by big Ange warning her "Stay in your lane!".  I was looking forward to watching that play out...and hoping that maybe this would be the start of a real love connection between Ma-chul and Akini...but never saw it during the episode.  Did I miss it???

No, you did not miss it.  Those comments were made independent of each other and were put together for the ad and totally out of context.  Hate that.  The magic of television.  

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19 minutes ago, islandgal140 said:

Sounds like it to me too. Zeid says he didn't use her credit card but she also gave him cash. 

Zero is a scammer. He is gonna come to the USA and turn into her ex. Zero's demeanor just doesn't strike me as a young go getter eager to work.  He is gonna be work shy and bone idle. Watch. 

Dude, he was very clear that he is going to work the coffee.  LOL 😉

7 minutes ago, alegtostandon said:

I thought the fact that Darcey was not aware if the 2 previous engagements & Tom saying "you never asked" prove Sister Tom's point that Darcey had no interest in getting to "know" Tom.

I would have loved it if Tim would have said "it is freaky for him to put your 10 year old over filtered unrecognizable photo on XXXX- Large tshirt!".

I wonder if Sister Zied had to pay for the ring because the store would not accept Rebecca's credit card.  

Oh, you know she has more Caesar's she is scamming!  I'm sure  TLC had to fork out quite a bit of money to get her to agree to be on camera & blow her US cover.  

Just watched a bit of Part 2...Big Ang has appointed herself the TLC hostess.... bringing Jessie in to introduce him around,  feeling it's her responsibility to defend him.  What a crazy bitch! Could not believe when she said: "I never seen no Muslim treat their elder with no respect!"  

What's the over/under that the only Muslims big Ange has ever seen are on episodes of NCIS and law and order?

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33 minutes ago, Cammi said:

Omar was on a Muslim dating app and he said he was located in America. Cause lying liars lie. And Avery still thinks she is the exception to the rule, and that he loves her truly.  Definitely isn't using her for US entry... most definitely not. Not HER. Cause if he only wanted a Visa "he could've gotten just any girl". Shhhhh…. don't tell her that she IS "just any girl". That dose of reality won't hit for a while, not with her being a special snowflake and all.  

One of the best parts of this season was when she and Teri were in the hotel room in Lebanon and she says this to Teri and Teri says, "He did.  He got you." 

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10 minutes ago, alegtostandon said:

I thought the fact that Darcey was not aware if the 2 previous engagements & Tom saying "you never asked" prove Sister Tom's point that Darcey had no interest in getting to "know" Tom.

I would have loved it if Tim would have said "it is freaky for him to put your 10 year old over filtered unrecognizable photo on XXXX- Large tshirt!".

I wonder if Sister Zied had to pay for the ring because the store would not accept Rebecca's credit card.  

Oh, you know she has more Caesar's she is scamming!  I'm sure  TLC had to fork out quite a bit of money to get her to agree to be on camera & blow her US cover.  

Just watched a bit of Part 2...Big Ang has appointed herself the TLC hostess.... bringing Jessie in to introduce him around,  feeling it's her responsibility to defend him.  What a crazy bitch! Could not believe when she said: "I never seen no Muslim treat their elder with no respect!"  

Double negative, she HAS seen a Muslim treat their elder with respect. 😁

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3 hours ago, Callaphera said:

Oh, Caesar. Caesar, Caesar, Caesar. You're a fucking creep and thanks for letting everyone know it. YKINMK and that's okay but it sure was nice of you to slip in the, "I brought a whip,"

*double take*

A whip? How come I didn't catch that? Is this for real?

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I'm wondering if Mykull really believes there is a baby in his future with Ang.  Hard to believe that he could think that.  I don't believe that Ang really wants a baby...no way.  That's just to get him to marry her.  And, why she wants that......I still haven't figured out.  I don't buy that he rocks her world in the sack like no other.  Just don't buy it.   I will have to eat my words if Ang pays for an egg for Mykull and then she really ends up TOTING IT!  as a cigarette dangles from her lips.  omg, this is sad. 

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Big Ang wants Mah-kul to basically be on house arrest, she mentioned that she was afraid of him getting in to trouble and that would jeopardize the visa process...does he have a history of getting in to trouble (I mean aside from the BJ)? 

Big Ang said that she talks to Mah-kul all day while she is at work, seriously? She calls him and talks to him all day so he cannot do anything without her knowing? First, I would not have 8 hours of conversation in me, second what about Angela's hospice patient, hearing is the last to go, can you imagine the last thing you hear is Ang's hoarse cackle or gross phone sex with Mah-kul?  

If Mah-kul makes it to the US he will be held prisoner while Big Ang is at work or the market or where ever. 

Also, let's never see Big Ang licking lube off of Mah-kul's body again. 

8 minutes ago, Cementhead said:

One of the best parts of this season was when she and Teri were in the hotel room in Lebanon and she says this to Teri and Teri says, "He did.  He got you." 

Did we ever learn how Avery will be paying for Omar's visa?

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1 hour ago, Pepper Mostly said:

The funniest thing I've ever seen on this show was big old dummy Caesar, when Rebecca and Angie were going toe to toe; trying to look concerned, eyes darting like a rat in a trap, looking for security, tentatively standing up as though to separate the two, then sitting back down with the same stupid dumb expression on his face the whole time. I DIED. 

THIS to the hundredth power!  When he did that I thought at first he was going to break them up, then I thought maybe he wants to get out of the way but when he sat back down, I was like WTF!

 AND another thing, Maria thinks everyone loves him...said no one, anywhere ever!  Who told her that lie.  We all think he is an idiot..who btw lied about sending her "about $40,000"....which I also never believed.

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On 10/28/2019 at 8:00 AM, Mrs. Hanson said:

Darcy has been mean and petty towards Stacey.

My hubby's take on Maria?  She is a high dollar "working girl," the kind that rhymes with looker.

Cooker?  Your husband thinks Maria is a chef? A ukranian Walter white?  😉

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3 hours ago, Callaphera said:

Oh, Caesar. Caesar, Caesar, Caesar. You're a fucking creep and thanks for letting everyone know it. YKINMK and that's okay but it sure was nice of you to slip in the, "I brought a whip," along with the mention of the Chocolate Panties*. But he would have gone slowly on the first meeting, y'all, and he would have waited one whole day before it was Hammer Time. No word on how long he would wait for Whippin' Time. Maria should be thanking her lucky stars that her ticket was cancelled and she got to avoid that mess. What. The. Fuck. 

Also, I cracked the hell up when at the end of the show, Maria said something, let the pause afterwards go on for so long it almost edged into uncomfortable territory and then dropped that, "Okay," with the slight dismissive shrug. Could she be any more ESL Ukrainian? It was like being at one of those weddings where all my family that never sees or talks to each other shows up because there's free booze and food and I'm trying to stumble my way through a half-Ukrainian/half-English conversation with my cousins (we're all cousins even if we're not) because Great Uncle Dmytro can smell that kubasa from halfway across the world. Or maybe it's Great Uncle Dmytro that smells like kubasa - it's been a long time since we had one of those weddings and my Ukrainian is still shit but I know all the food words!

Anywho. I'm hashtag Team Maria. (But my favourite pairing of the season is still Akinyi/Margarita. Still a better love story than Twilight.)

*I feel like Chocolate Panties deserve a fully capitalized title at this point. They were practically a character on their own this season. I hope they got a nice stipend. 

Hope Maria knew that Caesar was in to whips and chocolate panties. Not something I would spring on someone without knowing them or their comfort level. Maria is still a stranger to him. However, she is a person and not his toy. He came across as a creep.

i have Ukrainian relatives that I only tend to see at weddings and funerals.

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15 minutes ago, lasandi said:

THIS to the hundredth power!  When he did that I thought at first he was going to break them up, then I thought maybe he wants to get out of the way but when he sat back down, I was like WTF!

 AND another thing, Maria thinks everyone loves him...said no one, anywhere ever!  Who told her that lie.  We all think he is an idiot..who btw lied about sending her "about $40,000"....which I also never believed.

I suspect that Cesar was responding to the producers talking in his earpiece. They probably had discussed how there was going to be a big blowup with the ladies (well, women) and it was in the plan. So, they probably said, Cesar, sit down....it's okay. We got this.  lol 

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22 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I'm wondering if Mykull really believes there is a baby in his future with Ang.  Hard to believe that he could think that.  I don't believe that Ang really wants a baby...no way.  That's just to get him to marry her.  And, why she wants that......I still haven't figured out.  I don't buy that he rocks her world in the sack like no other.  Just don't buy it.   I will have to eat my words if Ang pays for an egg for Mykull and then she really ends up TOTING IT!  as a cigarette dangles from her lips.  omg, this is sad. 

I'm sure Mykull rocks Angela's world like no other, because nobody else is willing to rock that dank world.  

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I’m laughing at all the earnest advice givers trying to get dull Caesar to see that he’s been used.  I want to be there when each of these chucklefucks realize they’ve been used by the love of their life. It may not be $40k worth used but they’re all getting scammed on some level. Good luck morons. 
 

I just realized Darcy does not contribute one word to the group discussions. She’s so self-absorbed and if it’s not about her, she has nothing to say.  Of course she’s also dumber than a sponge. Her thoughts run about as deep as a puddle. Go read another Victorian romance novel Darcy. 

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8 minutes ago, nytonc said:

I’m laughing at all the earnest advice givers trying to get Caesar to realize he’s been used.  I want to be there when each of these chucklefucks realize they’ve been used by the love of their life. It may not be $40k worth used but they’re all getting scammed on some level. Good luck morons. 

And why do they think this fool would listen to them when he hasn't listened to any of his friends and family????

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1 hour ago, doyouevengohere said:

Avery openly admits she lied to her mother; how does that fit in with her faith?  How is Omar okay with that?  Doesn't he know she will lie to him too eventually?  THESE are questions a real host would ask.

On a similar topic, isn't it great that Rebecca thinks the best way to start a marriage is by having her fiance lie to his family about her previous marriages, relationships and tattoos?

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35 minutes ago, RealReality said:

Cooker?  Your husband thinks Maria is a chef? A ukranian Walter white?  😉

He thinks she is a talent BOOKER, like Zied!!! 

Okay I came to unload on Rebecca:  You go against Zied with that awful arm showing top, you broke stuff in his parents house and never apologized, you stirred up drama with the whole I was a lesbian for a month, you bought your own engagement ring, and the big daddy of them all:  You are still married yet slept with him with 12 hours of landing, but you storm off in a huff over your boyfriend showing up ala middle school with a shirt with your filtered face on it because it was being called, (rightfully so) a little freaky??  Sit. Down.

30 minutes ago, Pepper Mostly said:

Seriously, her caterwauling "Ah'm TAHRD of it!" was a bridge to far. Tired of what? No one had said one word to or about Jesse before he turned up. what exactly has offended her sensibilities so much? How could she be exhausted emotionally by all poor Jesse has suffered?

I love the "Ah'm TAHRD of it!" as that is a perfect description.  Again, tired of what?  You don't even KNOW him!  Some people simply expressed to him they were not that into him and boy here comes Big Angela to rescue poor Jesse.  Yelling at a 20 year old?  Feel good about yourself?

15 minutes ago, Pepper Mostly said:

And Angela knows its her bread and butter. She thinks she can hit or slap anyone. She apologized to the security guys who escorted her out of the building, but not to Avery. That was bullshit. Angie isn't a rough around the edges good old gal, who's a pack of fun. She is an ignorant, aggressive, hot tempered, selfish, crude, vulgar hag. If she had raised her hand to my child, regardless of how old, I would have snatched her peroxided head bald. Bitch.

Yep!  Had she flown that finger and been aggressive towards my kid I would have given her a Sumit type of beat down.  (Hey I am from Minnesota, lol!)  No, I would have ignored her and asked security to escort her out.

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31 minutes ago, Pepper Mostly said:

Yes, this. I said in the live chat thread that Angie does not give one shit about Jesse. She was just looking for her opportunity to hog up all the camera time. If everyone had welcomed Jesse and made him part of the family, guaranteed she would have proceeded to crap all over him. She wanted only to have the spotlight on her.

so much THIS! Not enough likes to click!

I suspect Angela has had to fight her whole life to get through. Sooner or later you figure out to survive if you pick the fight before someone picks it w/you- you can win by having the control and upper hand. 

I also am just going to say it I don't put it past Angela  to think that anyone wearing a hijab=suspect in motive/terrorist.  I didn't like the way she said "Muslim" like it was a dirty word. 

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17 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Remember those awful photos Darcy and Jesse did, there have been no glamour photos of her and Tom, it would be funny if she recreated the same pose with Tom.

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OMG, I forgot about this picture. What isn't shown is Darcey's other shoe with the broken heel, presumably gallant Jesse has scooped her up and carried her. Once we analyzed the photo a few times, some sharp-eyed viewer asked the pointed question, "Where is her BODY?" We know she's very short, especially in the torso, but there's absolutely no room behind Jesse's torso for the rest of her. 

I'm also noticing she was keeping her "eyes on the prize" even back then. 

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57 minutes ago, islandgal140 said:

I think the most horrifying thing I learned from this reunion is that Jesse is about to get a degree and psychology and have a license and get paid to gaslight and manipulate people. He is a young Hannibal Lecter in the making. 

Unless things are done very differently in the Netherlands from the US, Jesse won't be able to get any kind of clinical license with just a bachelor's degree.  And I don't think he's smart enough to go for a master's or PhD.  He may be able to manipulate people like Darcy or the folks in the nursing home into thinking he's some big brain but we've all seen otherwise.

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4 hours ago, Takitaki said:

I love and hate Darcy. I think she's a genuinely nice person who just wants love, and I've never seen her be mean or an asshole on purpose.

I agree here. The issue is that she makes love take precedence over EVERYTHING else... self-worth, non-romantic love, self-respect, the respect of others. For all her cliche-filled talk ("no room for negativity! I deserve respect and love! I follow my heart!!") she is desperately floundering when it comes to navigating her relationships. She just can't see that not all men have to be sexual conquests or romance-novel Knights in Shining Armor. All women are not her competition for those men. And improving yourself doesn't only mean losing weight, getting fillers, or showing your cleavage. The more she spouts her self-help book sayings, the less sure of herself she appears. 

I'd love to hang out with her one on one, no makeup, in sweatpants, and just shoot the breeze (preferably with tea, not alcohol). Then I could see if she is truly superficial and/or stupid, or just massively insecure and broken.

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26 minutes ago, itsadryheat said:

How sad is this concept - having her around you as you leave this life. Please God, I'll be good!

You could look at it the opposite way.  Angela makes them glad to be leaving the world.  

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8 minutes ago, Bryce Lynch said:

You could look at it the opposite way.  Angela makes them glad to be leaving the world.  

That's how I see it.  No matter where you're headed it has to be better than spending time with her.  

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23 hours ago, sainte-chapelle said:

Tim...we can go shopping and he will buy me things and I won't have to have sex with him.

Of course! I was genuinely flummoxed. Zied is just too sexy to be married. My second choice would be Mikulll. Anything to get him away from that thug Grangella 

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3 hours ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

Also, Angela absolutely made a swing and made physical contact with Avery’s finger and slapped it away. That isn’t okay at all. TLC should have shut her down immediately and TERMINATED her contract forever. The moment TLC did nothing it emboldened Angela to keep going with their approval. That’s the worst I have ever seen on this franchise. Not cool TLC. 

I mean where is the line drawn when assault is committed freely? I would own TLC if I were Avery. 

This 100%.  I do not understand why her abuse is tolerated.  She has physically assaulted Michael more than once and definitely made contact with Avery and chest bumped Rebecca.  She is a hideous, horrible, abuser and I agree 100% about Avery taking action against TLC.  

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5 hours ago, Callaphera said:

but it sure was nice of you to slip in the, "I brought a whip," along with the mention of the Chocolate Panties*.

Maybe it was a licorice whip?

I still haven't learned my lesson about commenting before I read the entire thread. @Gobi beat me to it! 

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5 minutes ago, Normades said:

When Bikini said that Ben smelled bad, I couldn't help but think that she lives in a place with no a/c in a very warm climate where people do a lot of physical work.  I wonder just how fresh Bikini smells.  I felt that was a pretty mean thing to say after the man traveled 30 hours with no sleep just to see her.

Akyini has been openly hostile towards Ben and yet he soldiers on.  Maybe he likes being insulted on national TV.  

It seems gratuitously mean to say Ben stank.  Like what end did that accomplish other than to take a shit all over him....again.  

And then the shade over his weight.  Akyini is allright, but she doesn't have a jenniffer body, where you can tell she is up on her own workouts.  

I just don't see what akyini brings to the table that is so spectacular.  

But hey, Russ likes this sort of treatment so maybe the humiliation gets Ben excited.  I feel like he could have found a local black woman to make fun of him, but whatevs.

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4 hours ago, ava111 said:

Oh my! I woke up at 5 AM to watch the last 3 hour part this morning and then hurried here and expected to find hundreds of posts after 3 hour finale last night and there is NOTHING?????? WTF? Please don't do this to me again as I can't handle it. What I blow I was dealt!!! Please everyone hurry with your opinions while I take a nap...

You can always check out the rice a roni live thread for award winning commentary and snark

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I'd be surprised if Cesar hasn't sent Maria MORE than 40k.  It's been 5 years.  I certainly don't believe anything she says.  I assume he's been sending her just about every spare cent he could find over the five years...

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15 minutes ago, RealReality said:
24 minutes ago, Bryce Lynch said:

You could look at it the opposite way.  Angela makes them glad to be leaving the world.  

That's how I see it.  No matter where you're headed it has to be better than spending time with her.  

And even seeing this guy in your final moments .......

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...would be kinder than having to see this fright for even one more day on this earth.

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17 minutes ago, Normades said:

When Bikini said that Ben smelled bad, I couldn't help but think that she lives in a place with no a/c in a very warm climate where people do a lot of physical work.  I wonder just how fresh Bikini smells.  I felt that was a pretty mean thing to say after the man traveled 30 hours with no sleep just to see her.

And not even a bottle (or 10) of Angel to be had.  The horrors. 

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3 hours ago, Pepper Mostly said:
4 hours ago, Callaphera said:

If that ticket hadn't been cancelled, Maria would have cancelled it; take that to the bank. There was no way in hell she was going to go to Cancun to be whipped by doleful stupid loser Caesar in a budget hotel room. No. Way.

Does he whip her before, during, or after Hammer Time?

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2 hours ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

I would have landed and said "Where is my room?"

The exact opposite of Darcey who asked, "Is OUR room nice?" only to be shot down by Tom when he said, "YOUR room is lovely..." 

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1 minute ago, Dobian said:

Jessie and Angela, 90 Days' hottest new couple!

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A couple made in heaven..."fame-whore" heaven that is.    She can beat the stuffing our of him...and he can beat her ego down endlessly. Pay to watch this pairing.  Oh..jesse, your handlebars are showing in this pic.

Make a mother and step dad proud...Ang...you make your SIX grandkids --EMBARRASSED

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1 hour ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I'm wondering if Mykull really believes there is a baby in his future with Ang.  Hard to believe that he could think that. I will have to eat my words if Ang pays for an egg for Mykull and then she really ends up TOTING IT!  as a cigarette dangles from her lips.  omg, this is sad. 

I think she's hit Scottie up for an egg. Scottie's hardly in a position to refuse.

37 minutes ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

Yep!  Had she flown that finger and been aggressive towards my kid I would have given her a Sumit type of beat down.  (Hey I am from Minnesota, lol!)  No, I would have ignored her and asked security to escort her out.

Wait, Sumit caught a beat down? (I fell off the Other Way bandwagon midseason.)

29 minutes ago, A-Lo said:

Unless things are done very differently in the Netherlands from the US, Jesse won't be able to get any kind of clinical license with just a bachelor's degree.  And I don't think he's smart enough to go for a master's or PhD.  He may be able to manipulate people like Darcy or the folks in the nursing home into thinking he's some big brain but we've all seen otherwise.

I was going to say the same thing - no one can practice w/ just a bachelor's degree. But then I remembered Leida, the rich Filipino beauty queen doctor. I think the decoded and deconstructed her "medical degree" situation to the point absurdity whereupon it became apparent that some of the foreign programs combine a collegiate and a terminal degree into one. So who knows? He may may have just bought a diploma from one of those online diploma mill "universities."

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3 hours ago, RoxiP said:

Maria thinks that people love Caesar?  Not even close!

But that was right after her very insightful line: Caesar "got what he wanted."

He gets a forever gf, the hunt, and sympathy...or at least people feeling sorry for him,  He good, she bad.

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