2019 Auditions, Finals, and Training Camp Spoilers

[Taralightner]

Just had this idea. They could add to auditions (between semi’s and finals) a ballet class. If they saw each of the TCCs at the barre, they would easily see things like turn-out, feet placement in the dance positions, extensions (ability to get that leg up in a controlled way), and knowledge of basic dance vocabulary. This could be a round like interviews where they have an almost pass/fail grade that would go into the decision of who makes it to camp.  The judges could still watch them all at finals, but would have this information at deliberations after finals so that they would know who would most likely struggle at camp because of their dance technique. Just a thought...  

[pinkandsparkly13]

Yes Victoria is so amazing. Yeah yeah. She still looks big, not fat, but not much different from that time last year IMO. And her hair looked flat on top. What is up with it? It's not straight, it's not curled, it's just there. Lol but she's okay. I can't tell who is better than who with the girls that are picked out by Travis. I thought Maddie looked good when they were doing the DCC dance. And she's bigger too. 

My boyfriend said Judy looked like she was taking a nap during the meeting with Bret. Lol. She barely says anything anymore. 

[loveanddcc]

6 minutes ago, Taralightner said:

Just had this idea. They could add to auditions (between semi’s and finals) a ballet class. If they saw each of the TCCs at the barre, they would easily see things like turn-out, feet placement in the dance positions, extensions (ability to get that leg up in a controlled way), and knowledge of basic dance vocabulary. This could be a round like interviews where they have an almost pass/fail grade that would go into the decision of who makes it to camp.  The judges could still watch them all at finals, but would have this information at deliberations after finals so that they would know who would most likely struggle at camp because of their dance technique. Just a thought...  

But then only trained dancers would make it.... I’m not ok with that. It’s not like the audience can tell who’s trained or not and untrained girls can have better performance quality and shine in other ways.

[loveanddcc]

10 hours ago, Monique said:

If you were right then Molly shouldn’t be in the triangle for Group 4 and Hannah should be. Molly isn’t on show group and Hannah is and Hannah can dance circles around her. Also if group 4 is the tall girl group which it seems to be I wonder why they let Gina be Tess’s 2nd leader. She looks short between Tess, Hannah, and Molly 🤷🏾‍♀️  

I think the triangles are about what’s going to look best on screen. That means the prettiest girls who can consistently do the choreography. A Tess Gina Hannah triangle would be too harsh. They all have harsh features. Molly softens them out.

It’s not about who’s individually more beautiful, it’s about the picture that’s created by the three girls in front of the camera.

Show group is based more on who’s the best technical dancer.... I would imagine that they put some girls on show group for looks and interview skills, but a lot of them make it bc they can do tricks and skills 

Edited August 31, 2019 by loveanddcc

[Taralightner]

40 minutes ago, loveanddcc said:

But then only trained dancers would make it.... I’m not ok with that. It’s not like the audience can tell who’s trained or not and untrained girls can have better performance quality and shine in other ways.

I hear you. The reality is that this is a professional dance job. Tonight, they asked Kat if she knew what relevé and coupé meant. When she didn’t know coupé, they told her that she needed to find some dance classes in the area. I’m not saying everyone needs to be a professional level ballerina, but K&J have cut so many TCCs because of lack of dance training... even a few years of ballet as a young adult could prepare someone like Kat (who has a ton of natural talent and training in an area like gymnastics, so flexibility and turn out have already been taught), to be on top of her game instead of a little behind the curve. 

Edited August 31, 2019 by Taralightner

[chrishunt]

Wasn’t the rumor that Ashley had a weird sugar daddy situation going on and that’s why she was really cut? Would make sense that they did it quick and emotionless when they’ve given plenty of other girls time to work on their kicks

[Weeklydcc]

I'm surprised nobody mentioned the part about Kat not telling her mom that she's basically homeless and that's distracting her from practicing and focusing on DCC.  I wonder what happened with the nice lady who offered to let her move in.  It fell through somehow.  I hope Kat is back on her feet now.  She is charismatic and interesting even if she only cheers every other game.  

[loveanddcc]

26 minutes ago, Taralightner said:

I hear you. The reality is that this is a professional dance job. Tonight, they asked Kat if she knew what relevé and coupé meant. When she didn’t know coupé, they told her that she needed to find some dance classes in the area. I’m not saying everyone needs to be a professional level ballerina, but K&J have cut so many TCCs because of lack of dance training... even a few years of ballet as a young adult could prepare someone like Kat (who has a ton of natural talent and training in an area like gymnastics, so flexibility and turn out have already been taught), to be on top of her game instead of a little behind the curve. 

Ohh, I understand now! I haven’t seen tonight’s episode yet. Earlier this season, Kelli said technique is great “but the reality is we’re going to put boots over those feet.” They have to decide what they want. They can’t say you don’t need to be trained and then cut girls for things like turnout and feet or drag them for not having a dance vocabulary. I was hopeful that Kelli's statement meant they’d changed their minds about technical training. 

Edited August 31, 2019 by loveanddcc

[chrishunt]

On 6/16/2019 at 1:43 PM, loveanddcc said:

Ashley got burned for her actions that she did one week before she auditioned for DCC. From what I've heard, at the very least she slept with her teammates bf and at the very worst it was an ongoing SD/SB affair in which he allegedly promised to buy her way onto DCC, but someone ratted her out to Kelli and allegedly a video surfaced that was threatened to be released if she made the team. I've heard that she was a mean girl on Mavs but it was the other stuff that got her cut.

Here’s the info I mentioned previously from page 88 of this thread.

[Agent Gully]

3 hours ago, Ssaallluuu said:

I think amanda is stunning. She has model features. Wide set eyes. Also a little hooded what they used to call bedroom eyes. Nice difference to a lot of the other overly perky eyes. 

It is definitely the wide set eyes that make her unique. Much like Jacqueline Kennedy.

[lkxydhfinl ghsdv]

[JayDKay]

2 hours ago, loveanddcc said:

I think the triangles are about what’s going to look best on screen. That means the prettiest girls who can consistently do the choreography. A Tess Gina Hannah triangle would be too harsh. They all have harsh features. Molly softens them out.

It’s not about who’s individually more beautiful, it’s about the picture that’s created by the three girls in front of the camera.

Show group is based more on who’s the best technical dancer.... I would imagine that they put some girls on show group for looks and interview skills, but a lot of them make it bc they can do tricks and skills 

Group triangle placement has always gone by seniority. Looks has nothing to do it. This is the 1st year that I know of that a 2nd year has been in front of a 3rd year (Savannah). I'm guessing because Savannah can't be trusted up front without messing up. If it was based on looks, she would be in the triangle. I just wish they had done the same thing and put Jaylyn in front of Christina. I don't think Christina messes up though. She's just a stiff, boring dancer with no power. 

[Lona]

Was thinking to myself:

Were Ashley and Gina Marie's cuts the quickest we've seen on the show? I'm trying to remember if anyone was cut in the first week, but I don't think that's the case. Historians, help please? 😂. GM seems like a really nice person, but clearly she wasn't ready this year.

Oh, so that's what Ashley P's voice sounds like. Cool! Thought she was going to get the silent treatment like Chantel. ;).

Travis Wall is awesome! Really enjoyed his segment!

[dreamcatcher]

6 hours ago, Taralightner said:

I liked the Episode in general, but a big chunk of it was kind of the “Kat show.” 

They opened with Kat getting a manicure- during that, she gets a text telling her that she had to move because someone in her host family was deathly allergic to cats. She had stayed there only 1 night- who brings a cat to someone else’s house without asking?   Then they show a lot about her dancing- Travis Wall notices the same weakness we saw at auditions. 

Other stuff in the episode I liked: we knew about who was cut, but apparently they are trying to cut early this year instead of drawing out the time that a TCC stays so it’s easier on everyone. Ashley cut for kicks, Gina Marie- dance experience and choreo pick up problems. Instead of that heart wrenching ending of camp cut, they are doing it now. I love that approach. 

I LOVED Travis Wall and his teaching style!!!! So much fun to watch. 

They also showed that the personality testing was used to help them put dancers into groups. 

Since we knew some of the outcomes, it was good to see how it actually played out. 

Well they’re saying that they don’t want to drag it out but that’s exactly what they ended up doing. They do the same every year and they can’t convince us it’s because they have a hard time making cuts when we can all see who’s the weakest of the batch.

6 hours ago, GeorgiaPeach11 said:

Why didn't Lisa make SG?

Pages ago it was said that K&J thought of this Rookie class as weak but Kelli contradicted that on tonight's show by saying it's a strong Rookie class. Any thoughts?

Lisa didn’t make SG because one spot was already occupied and I guess the other two seemed better than her?

Kelli always says it’s their strongest rookie class.EVERY DAMN YEAR. Unless they assume they only get new viewers each season, I don’t understand what she thinks she’ll accomplish with this.

5 hours ago, Rosie-Brooklyn said:

Not going to lie, I expected to come here and see a bunch of praise for Kat because she said that she'd rather be homeless than give up her cat. Cat people-- in my experience-- regard this as the gold standard of viewpoints. 

Meh, dog people gave the same standard tbh. If you decide to bring an animal into your home, you better be prepared to treat them like family.

[LadyMsJay]

7 hours ago, Taralightner said:

I liked the Episode in general, but a big chunk of it was kind of the “Kat show.” 

They opened with Kat getting a manicure- during that, she gets a text telling her that she had to move because someone in her host family was deathly allergic to cats. She had stayed there only 1 night- who brings a cat to someone else’s house without asking?   Then they show a lot about her dancing- Travis Wall notices the same weakness we saw at auditions. 

Other stuff in the episode I liked: we knew about who was cut, but apparently they are trying to cut early this year instead of drawing out the time that a TCC stays so it’s easier on everyone. Ashley cut for kicks, Gina Marie- dance experience and choreo pick up problems. Instead of that heart wrenching ending of camp cut, they are doing it now. I love that approach. 

I LOVED Travis Wall and his teaching style!!!! So much fun to watch. 

They also showed that the personality testing was used to help them put dancers into groups. 

Since we knew some of the outcomes, it was good to see how it actually played out. 

Did she say she didn't ask or are you just assuming?

[PunchPowerPop]

12 hours ago, sleepyjean said:

Brooke does this every year. The rare times we see her, it's usually just the back of her. She does the same thing after the training camp participants are selected. It's probably helpful to have someone wrangle everyone, give them the rundown, and handle the administrative stuff while Kelli and Judy are being filmed, thanking the judges and everyone who helped out, etc.  I'm sure there are a lot of details to manage and it helps to have people to handle these different aspects of the day and keep things running smoothly.

Brooke was a very popular cheerleader in the 90s. I believe she was the one who ran the SoDCC newsletter.

Brooke Wicker in the 90s. She overlapped with Shelly for a bit.

This was apparently pre "Kelli knot" in the blouse, because she certainly couldn't rest her chin on her bosoms if she became exhausted from whipping those wispy bangs around. 

[RedheadZombie]

11 hours ago, Ssaallluuu said:

I think amanda is stunning. She has model features. Wide set eyes. Also a little hooded what they used to call bedroom eyes. Nice difference to a lot of the other overly perky eyes. 

I agree that Amanda has strikingly beautiful eyes. I remember her from Face Off.  IMHO, the blondes on the team often coast on the long blonde hair, whereas the brunettes typically have to have facial beauty to make the team. This is not the case for Amanda. 

[raindancer]

4 hours ago, dreamcatcher said:

If you decide to bring an animal into your home, you better be prepared to treat them like family.

So. Much. This.  The life of an animal is a serious responsibility to take on.  It is the height of cruelty to adopt an animal when they are in the young, cute, puppy or kitty part of their lives, then lose interest or be aggravated by the responsibilities that come with it, and then put them down or take them to a shelter where they'll be killed, or pine away for home after being abandoned.  My impression from the clip with Kat was that it may have initially been perfectly fine for her to have brought her cat, but her host had a serious and sudden reaction (which is not at all uncommon....I've actually worked quite a bit in allergy and immunology, and allergic reactions are a hell of a thing).  So glad she takes it seriously, and I'm loving the glimpses we get of the TCC's interests and personae.  

[Taralightner]

6 hours ago, Lona said:

Was thinking to myself:

Were Ashley and Gina Marie's cuts the quickest we've seen on the show? I'm trying to remember if anyone was cut in the first week, but I don't think that's the case. Historians, help please? 😂. GM seems like a really nice person, but clearly she wasn't ready this year.

They cut a girl the second night of dancing (so 3rd training camp night including the first meeting) because they were sent nude photos of her taken by an ex-boyfriend who wanted to ruin her chances to make DCC. I want to say this was season 7? Maybe 6. I could be wrong on the season, but pretty sure it was 6 or 7, someone else can correct the season.  

But I’ve never seen them cut so early for dance stuff. 

Edited August 31, 2019 by Taralightner

[kalibean]

Do we know if Lisa even wanted show group? Trying to remember if Melissa and Amy T balanced STEM careers while on show group...I think they might have done internships and side hustles, but not worked full time. Lauren dropped to lighter hours too, IIRC, but I suppose a nurse could pull 3, 36 hour shifts per week if the days were balanced correctly. 

The other thing I think of with Lisa is that she’s sooooo petite, and Ashlee already fills the shortie slot plus she’s a POC. 

[Holly85]

4 minutes ago, kalibean said:

Do we know if Lisa even wanted show group? Trying to remember if Melissa and Amy T balanced STEM careers while on show group...I think they might have done internships and side hustles, but not worked full time. Lauren dropped to lighter hours too, IIRC, but I suppose a nurse could pull 3, 36 hour shifts per week if the days were balanced correctly. 

The other thing I think of with Lisa is that she’s sooooo petite, and Ashlee already fills the shortie slot plus she’s a POC. 

Briana is a shortie also 

[Weeklydcc]

6 minutes ago, Holly85 said:

Briana is a shortie also 

I loved the scene where Briana was coaching Chandi.  It was awesome when she said you want the men to want you and the women to want to be your best friend.

[Holly85]

26 minutes ago, Weeklydcc said:

I loved the scene where Briana was coaching Chandi.  It was awesome when she said you want the men to want you and the women to want to be your best friend.

Was nice to see her bc we don’t see much of her 

[ATLGirl]

I'm very happy that someone told VK to calm down, speak more slowly and act less like she's 12 and just slurped 10 milkshakes. It makes a huge difference. It makes the painful reality that she made the team after all the stunts she pulled last year a little easier to take.

But I don't see the brilliant dancer Travis saw. Just don't. I don't think she's necessarily awful. I do think she has improved a little. But I don't see the WOW at all. Don't see her as "the best" in the room.

At the end of the day, I admit I hate the "duh" song and I'm not a big fan of his choreo either. But it was a total hoot to see him learn the DCC dance routine with the ladies. Would love to see more fun moments like that!

[EricaShadows]

2 hours ago, Taralightner said:

They cut a girl the second night of dancing (so 3rd training camp night including the first meeting) because they were sent nude photos of her taken by an ex-boyfriend who wanted to ruin her chances to make DCC. I want to say this was season 7? Maybe 6. I could be wrong on the season, but pretty sure it was 6 or 7, someone else can correct the season.  

But I’ve never seen them cut so early for dance stuff. 

That was Carla,  She was brought into Training Camp when Alyssa Torres and several other vets were cut.  Carla was never strikingly pretty and was a pretty weak dancer from what we were shown in auditions which left people wondering why she was brought in.  If TPTB knew about the pictures before Finals, they wouldn't (or shouldn't) have brought her into Camp.  She was cut the 2nd night of filming and Kelli said "She was young and stupid and, unfortunately nothing is private anymore." Judy chimed in with "Don't blame that on anyone but yourself, you have the camera in your hand."  After a few more comments, Kelli then said "There is no recovery on this particular situation.  There is no question who it is or who it was or what she was displaying.  It's just a bad choice."

Carla was understandably upset that her ex would do something like that, but instead of saying something along the lines of "I did something stupid and I trusted the wrong person with something that was of a private nature not to be shared"-type of thing, she said "The lesson is to not trust anyone out there.  You never know who's real or fake and don't trust boyfriends. They're all liars." 

[Muckypup61]

My thoughts on this latest episode:

1) Yea, Kat, for being a good furbaby parent!

2) I love Billie Elish, so was thrilled to hear "Bad Guy" as the song for Travis' choreo. Got a kick out of Rachel W.'s "duh" face at the end.

3) Had to brace myself mentally for Travis Wall's anthem of praise to VK. Yeah, she's dancing a little better, but I am disappointed we didn't see much of the stellar 2nd, and 3rd, year vets dancing to this song. I want to SEE how Jaylyn, Gina, Bridget, Hannah and ( I have to admit to myself) Rachel W. handle this choreo.

4) Lisa kicked A** during this dance! 

5) The mid-practice cuts were a bit jarring, but I can see why it was done this way. I just hope the rookies cut got to say goodbye to the friends they've made on the squad.

6) Amy: sweet person, most likely a very good group leader; but yeah, very plain vanilla. 

Edited August 31, 2019 by Muckypup61
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[Christineelgene]

3 hours ago, Taralightner said:

They cut a girl the second night of dancing (so 3rd training camp night including the first meeting) because they were sent nude photos of her taken by an ex-boyfriend who wanted to ruin her chances to make DCC. I want to say this was season 7? Maybe 6. I could be wrong on the season, but pretty sure it was 6 or 7, someone else can correct the season.  

But I’ve never seen them cut so early for dance stuff. 

That was Carla Ann, who also thought Michele Obama was the Presidential Candidate.  I thought she should have been dropped after panel.  So I guess it would have been 2012.

[Lily80]

48 minutes ago, ATLGirl said:

But I don't see the brilliant dancer Travis saw. Just don't. I don't think she's necessarily awful. I do think she has improved a little. But I don't see the WOW at all. Don't see her as "the best" in the room.

Totally agree with this. I don't get it. She's not bad, and she does the DCC choreo well. But it seems like she hugs her shoulders up to her ears when she dances. I don't see what he's talking about--best in the room? Better than Jalyn? Bridgette? What???

[MsTBGal]

I have watched this series since the very beginning and look forward to every episode each year.  My biggest gripe is how CMT hones in on just a few of the candidates each season.  Personally, I feel that we are being gypped from seeing all of the other candidates which would make the show far more interesting. 

I am already done with "The Kat Show" and so I'm watching the program delayed so I can zip through her "interviews."   Honestly, I was sitting in total shock when they showed that totally scripted spiel in the salon with her getting a manicure.  Yuck   Like so many of you have stated, why is she being given the extra time to develop and other candidates not?? 

[MelissaB326]

3 hours ago, kalibean said:

Do we know if Lisa even wanted show group? Trying to remember if Melissa and Amy T balanced STEM careers while on show group...I think they might have done internships and side hustles, but not worked full time. Lauren dropped to lighter hours too, IIRC, but I suppose a nurse could pull 3, 36 hour shifts per week if the days were balanced correctly. 

The other thing I think of with Lisa is that she’s sooooo petite, and Ashlee already fills the shortie slot plus she’s a POC. 

Melissa W. cheered her first year as a DCC and was in show group during her senior year of college which is pretty amazing to me considering her engineering major. I am not sure about her job situation the other two years as a DCC. 

Whatever Amy T. is doing now for her job must be pretty awesome, if you follow her on Instagram she has certainly lived her best life this summer traveling around Europe.  

[parrotfeathers]

15 minutes ago, DCCdazzle said:

Like so many of you have stated, why is she being given the extra time to develop and other candidates not?? 

I'm guessing it's like every other year they have the "come back" girl.  They aren't nearly as awful as portrayed the previous year.  Some DCC fairy visits them before the next year and mends all their shortcomings and gives them an extra dose of talent.  Course sometimes it take several years and several fairies.

[ClosetBachJunkie]

9 hours ago, dreamcatcher said:

Kelli always says it’s their strongest rookie class.EVERY DAMN YEAR. Unless they assume they only get new viewers each season, I don’t understand what she thinks she’ll accomplish with this.

Yup.  Every year.  I don't think there's anything wrong with admitting when you have "rebuilding" years, for instance, but Kelli seems to think that admitting the squad isn't getting better each and every year is super shameful or something.

[SmpIsimon]

Btw, the reason they took 37 is that two of them are alternates. 

[chrishunt]

6 minutes ago, SmpIsimon said:

Btw, the reason they took 37 is that two of them are alternates. 

Do we know who?? My guesses are Kat and Lily

[scorpio1031]

5 minutes ago, chrishunt said:

Do we know who?? My guesses are Kat and Lily

Rachel A sat out the first game and Kat sat out the second one.

[Tuxcat]

Just now, scorpio1031 said:

Rachel A sat out the first game and Kat sat out the second one.

Is Rachel A on show group?

[scorpio1031]

Just now, Tuxcat said:

Is Rachel A on show group?

Yes.

[heckkitty]

1 hour ago, Lily80 said:

Totally agree with this. I don't get it. She's not bad, and she does the DCC choreo well. But it seems like she hugs her shoulders up to her ears when she dances. I don't see what he's talking about--best in the room? Better than Jalyn? Bridgette? What???

Agree. Gina slayed that choreo - she’s in the front line of the people he called out for being good. She didn’t even get mentioned, at least on camera. This “best in the room” nonsense is the thing that most has me convinced that this is heavily edited and scripted in VK’s favor. She was fine. Definitely not “best in the room” (IMO) 

Edited August 31, 2019 by heckkitty

[Holly85]

1 hour ago, SmpIsimon said:

Btw, the reason they took 37 is that two of them are alternates. 

Do you happen to know which two 

Edited August 31, 2019 by Holly85

[Loves2Dance]

I am trying super hard to get into this season and it's just not happening. I'm not even sure I could blame Vikkie for it at this point...I watched last night's episode and continue to struggle with why they kept Kat. I realize they don't want women too invested so they don't wind up with another Malena; but Kat is, I dare say, a darker skinned Vikkie 1.0 in terms of interview quality, dance ability and beauty. And...she's older and therefore, should be able to come across more mature than she is. If I were Malena, and see what they're doing this year, I'd be pissed. 

[SmpIsimon]

4 minutes ago, Loves2Dance said:

I watched last night's episode and continue to struggle with why they kept Kat. 

Diversity.

[Mercurialsteph]

1 hour ago, SmpIsimon said:

Btw, the reason they took 37 is that two of them are alternates. 

Wait so Rachel A , a three year showgroup veteran, is an ALTERNATE?! What happened??? Why even stay on the team?! 

8 minutes ago, SmpIsimon said:

Diversity.

I mean that’s what I figured and honestly, that IS a valid reason to keep her. They need the diversity and she’s coachable. 

[SmpIsimon]

Just now, Mercurialsteph said:

Wait so Rachel A , a three year showgroup veteran, is an ALTERNATE?! What happened??? Why even stay on the team?! 

I never said Rachel was an alternate.

[Mercurialsteph]

Just now, SmpIsimon said:

I never said Rachel was an alternate.

But she’s the one who sat out? 

[Christineelgene]

6 minutes ago, Mercurialsteph said:

Wait so Rachel A , a three year showgroup veteran, is an ALTERNATE?! What happened??? Why even stay on the team?! 

Rachel posted last Monday from her job, which looked like an elementary school teacher, at least there where lots of small children running around a classroom.  She showed a gift she got from one of her “students” who was homeschooled.  I like to think that since Sunday was a pre-season game, that she was able to take that day off to prepare for the first day of school, and that one of the alternates was filling in for her.  I can’t imagine that she would be an alternate herself.  

[Mercurialsteph]

2 minutes ago, Christineelgene said:

Rachel posted last Monday from her job, which looked like an elementary school teacher, at least there where lots of small children running around a classroom.  She showed a gift she got from one of her “students” who was homeschooled.  I like to think that since Sunday was a pre-season game, that she was able to take that day off to prepare for the first day of school, and that one of the alternates was filling in for her.  I can’t imagine that she would be an alternate herself.  

Ok that makes more sense. So if two are alternates technically only 35 made the team? 

[SmpIsimon]

Just now, Mercurialsteph said:

Ok that makes more sense. So if two are alternates technically only 35 made the team? 

Yes.

[Mercurialsteph]

3 minutes ago, SmpIsimon said:

Yes.

Woooooow that is something...that they couldn’t settle on 36 and had to make two people alternates...

the two alternates have no guarantee of performing right? Or one will always at least perform? 

I’m guessing Kat and Meredith? 

[RedDelicious]

Do the alternates get pinky rings?

[Christineelgene]

4 minutes ago, Mercurialsteph said:

Woooooow that is something...that they couldn’t settle on 36 and had to make two people alternates...

the two alternates have no guarantee of performing right? Or one will always at least perform? 

I’m guessing Kat and Meredith? 

I am agreeing on Kat and Meredith.