S14.E05: Liar, Liar, Friendships On Fire

[Andi27]

Emily's mother-in-law seems like a nice woman, but Emily needs a support system that is not related to Shane.

[Straycat80]

1 minute ago, poeticlicensed said:

Gina is a hot mess.

She really is! She should thank her lucky stars for her parents, they seem helpful and supportive. 

[chenoa333]

10 minutes ago, Pickles said:

Shane actually reminds me of Ryan, Tamra's son. And that is really, really not good.

I was thinking the same thing. Brothers by another father.

[Thumper]

Has Gina ever apologized to Shannon for not being supportive of Shannon's difficulties?

Can't believe Kelly keeps hinting about getting engaged.

[perfectstorm]

1 hour ago, Bronzedog said:

Gina is kind of a horrible person.  Last week she liked Shannon because Shannon bought her things.  This week she basically made Emily disposable by saying she didn't need Emily's check in calls because now Shannon calls her.  Bitch.

Gina is stupid.  Needy Shannon is toxic Tamra's sock puppet.   And you know Shannon tells her "boss" Tamra everything.  And it's only a matter of time Tamra betrays - as she does with everyone at some point.

Edited September 4, 2019 by tealeaves

[Duke2801]

Shane is a wretched excuse for a human being. Like, he’s beyond checked out of that marriage. He seems to actually hate Emily. Very sad and disturbing to see. 

And now Braunwyn’s weirdo mom gets her own confessional? I can’t. 

[pieinmyeye]

SMDH! Find yourself before you worry about finding a new husband. You might just like what you find.

The only redeeming factor for me in the show tonight was that Ickie was nowhere to be seen or heard. WOO-HOO!!!!!!!!!!!

[TexasGal]

1 hour ago, nexxie said:

Tamra’s got a lot of nerve calling anyone else a troublemaker.

I’m surprised Tamra didn’t get struck down by a bolt of lightning with that one.

Shane is awful.  Cut the cord Emily.

[Dance4Life]

There is a rumor about wanna-be’s stalking current housewives to get on the show.

Braunwyn was busted.   Hello Lizzie!  Hello Gretchen!

Oh, honey....we gotta get a membership to the Balboa Club.  I can stalk Kelly there!

girrrrrrl!  🤣

She is a mommy blogger looking for exposure to sell a book about her life (😴😴😴😴😴) and leotards!

and, will befriend this bunch to make it happen.  

[QQQQ]

29 minutes ago, chenoa333 said:

I was thinking the same thing. Brothers by another father.

Same weak chins, beady eyes, and air of smugness.

[Maire]

Yes Shane is an asshole AND he really doesn’t want to be on this show. When Emily came downstairs he said “did they drag another 20 minutes out of you over this?” Why does she keep pushing this unless she really wants to break up? 

[heatherchandler]

51 minutes ago, poeticlicensed said:

Gina is a hot mess.

She looks awful.  Her makeup is smeared and she is all puffy.  I know she needs the money but last year she only made $60,000.  Is it worth it??  I guess she is probably making more this year but still...

I don't mind Shane.  I am similar in that I don't have tons of feelings and I would not want a film crew in my house.  He is just being real, I think, and we are not used to that.  We are used to the fluffy bullshit these assholes put out for us.

And finally - I hate Tamra so much I cannot even look at her rat face!

[Pondlass1]

Orange County Housewives is getting boring. Not that I want idiotic drama all the time... but I found myself playing a game on my iPad instead of watching.

Something needs to happen (not puppygate) but something...  maybe murder?  Just kidding. 🤣

[Dance4Life]

I am over Gina!

She got arrested for driving drunk and drinking in the car!

That has nothing to do with divorce or husband cheating. 

I could have been arrested!!!  You were arrested!  😭😭😭

This case probably cost her $20,000!  

Edited September 4, 2019 by Dance4Life

[breezy424]

I really don't have anything to add.  I think you guys covered it all except:

Archie!

Why is that Tamra always seems to be yelling.  Normal voice Tamra.  Normal voice Tamra.  We can hear you.

Kelly and Brian are soooo awkward together.

[ParadoxLost]

56 minutes ago, pieinmyeye said:

The only redeeming factor for me in the show tonight was that Ickie was nowhere to be seen or heard. WOO-HOO!!!!!!!!!!!

Kelly is under reacting to the rumor on screen.  I'm getting the feeling that she went nuclear in reality to the point that it was handled off screen and that is how Vicki came to be demoted.  I don't think anyone decided to clue in Kelly at this point the part that Tamra played.

57 minutes ago, Duke2801 said:

Shane is a wretched excuse for a human being. Like, he’s beyond checked out of that marriage. He seems to actually hate Emily. Very sad and disturbing to see. 

What is worse is that he's lumping the kids in with Emily.  He can't even put up the pretense of missing them with the producers.

1 hour ago, Straycat80 said:

Braunwyn, you can not be thin skinned around these bitches. Buck up or you’ll be one and done. 

I don't know.  The crying jag manipulated Tamra into dropping her line of attack.  I'm not shocked that Bronwyn did show recon before starting to film.  She is transparently thirsty about being a reality star.

1 hour ago, poeticlicensed said:

Wait Branwyn's mom is a doctor?? Color me shocked.

And a rockstar.  I think she might be using Burning Man to cross the 8th Dimension.

I would like to say that I fully expect to be the only one who knows of what I speak and it seems wrong that I have both Real Housewives and Buckaroo Bonzai in my mental rolodex.  

Edited September 4, 2019 by ParadoxLost

[DivaLasVegas82]

They need to keep Shane off my screen. He is the biggest asshole of all the husbands I've ever watched on all the "Housewives" franchises. What husband laughs when asked if he misses his wife? 

35 minutes ago, Maire said:

Yes Shane is an asshole AND he really doesn’t want to be on this show. When Emily came downstairs he said “did they drag another 20 minutes out of you over this?” Why does she keep pushing this unless she really wants to break up? 

And anytime Emily tries to converse with him or even touch him, he recoils like she has cooties. Why is she torturing herself by staying in this marriage?

[Thumper]

43 minutes ago, Dance4Life said:

There is a rumor about wanna-be’s stalking current housewives to get on the show.

Braunwyn was busted.   Hello Lizzie!  Hello Gretchen!

Oh, honey....we gotta get a membership to the Balboa Club.  I can stalk Kelly there!

girrrrrrl!  🤣

She is a mommy blogger looking for exposure to sell a book about her life (😴😴😴😴😴) and leotards!

and, will befriend this bunch to make it happen.  

Is Braunwyn really a mommy blogger?  Ugh.  I just can't with that.  How did we all survive as moms before the Internet???

[Dance4Life]

A husband that doesn’t want to be on camera and over all the fakeness that is this show!

Eddie acts the same way.....but, it doesn’t bother people since Tamra is not well-liked.

[DivaLasVegas82]

1 hour ago, Keywestclubkid said:

he hasn’t seen in her 10+ days and he gives her that hug? And he wants dinner and her cleaning? He sees her has the help 

The way he treats her is appalling. I don't see how she has stayed in the marriage for as long as she has. I thought David and Shannon's marriage was bad, but Emily and Shane's marriage makes theirs look like it was picture perfect.

[Keywestclubkid]

Just now, Dance4Life said:

A husband that doesn’t want to be on camera and over all the fakeness that is this show!

Eddie acts the same way.....but, it doesn’t bother people since Tamra is not well-liked.

The man sat on camera and said he didn’t miss his wife or kids at all that he basically didn’t want to go home. He is beyond checked out of the marriage 

[Pickles]

Just now, Dance4Life said:

A husband that doesn’t want to be on camera and over all the fakeness that is this show!

Eddie acts the same way.....but, it doesn’t bother people since Tamra is not well-liked.

But, Eddie doesn't act like he despises Tamra. Shane acts repulsed by Emily and has no interest in his kids either. It was so uncomfortable watching those scenes. 

[DivaLasVegas82]

1 hour ago, BluBrd47 said:

I know I should feel sorry for Braunwyn but I can’t. If you are in your mid forties and have seven kids and are still crying over mean girls you have too much time on your hands.

Like Braunwyn said, she desperately wants to be liked. She's the kind of person who will play both sides of the field so she can keep people happy. I still like her, though. She has her faults, but she seems like a good person.

2 minutes ago, Pickles said:

But, Eddie doesn't act like he despises Tamra. Shane acts repulsed by Emily and has no interest in his kids either. It was so uncomfortable watching those scenes. 

I agree. Eddie sometimes seems embarrassed by Tamra's behavior, but I've never seen him recoil when she touches him like Shane does with Emily. Shane treats Emily like she shot his dog. It's really disturbing to watch a husband be so cruel and dismissive to his wife.

[Mu Shu]

2 hours ago, nexxie said:

It’s hard to find a redeeming feature in Shane - run, Emily!

I don’t think she can. When I saw her duck waddling from behind, I thought she was a random old woman tourist, or Vicki in a brown wig. 

Shane hates her. And he looks like a unabomber on an ID Discovery re-enactment.

well, it took Tamra two whole episodes to break the new girl. Mother of Browned Wind is a real asshole. Hope it’s the last time we have to see her. 

[LibertarianSlut]

14 minutes ago, ParadoxLost said:

Kelly is under reacting to the rumor on screen.  I'm getting the feeling that she went nuclear in reality to the point that it was handled off screen and that is how Vicki came to be demoted.  I don't think anyone decided to clue in Kelly at this point the part that Tamra played.

I was just coming on to say that Kelly is playing this perfectly* and not giving anyone anything to talk about, but you're probably more on target here than I am.

*Maybe saying "I'm getting it from all ends" isn't the perfect word choice for this particular situation

I can't believe Braunwyn lied like that.  And then she lied again when she said she had no memory before confessing?  Get the fuck out of here with that shit. I feel like lies of this caliber are like shoplifting and drunk driving--for every 20 lies you tell, you get caught in one.  So, I would seriously watch Braun going forward.  Who gives a shit if you're friends with Lizzie and Gretchen?  I like them!  And I'll be damned if I'm going to lie about it.

Braunwyn should have just been a bad bitch and said she has more in common with Gretchen and Lizzie because they're closer to her in age.  And she's sorry, Tamra, but she's a younger, better hip-hip dancer and she has a belly button.  Well, that last part would perhaps be overkill.

B's mom is so gross.  I totally thought we did the zany mom thing with Lydia and Judy.  Where is Ragey Ryan to tell this mom to get her damn feet off the sofa?

I don't even have the presence of mind to analyze Gina tonight.  

[Dance4Life]

Eddie had his ‘I hate filming’ moment.... but now over the last few seasons Tamra doesn’t force him to film. We just see Eddie doing the least.  Either CUT scenes or some party where couples have to attend.

I am just tired of the fakeness.  Housewives come on this show and pretend everything is perfect.  

We spend all season calling their marriage fake and heading into divorce.

Then they come back next season......and, suck all the energy from the show and even expect our sympathy.

This is what Gina is doing this season.....yet, we all knew they were separated last season.  They just need to be honest.

Shannon did this, too.  David already had an affair and they were not sleeping in the same bedroom.

Who knows? Emily is an attorney.

  Maybe Emily just wants all the ‘marital cruelty’ on camera to get a bigger alimony check.  But, she is very aware......Shane is looking very bad and forcing it all on camera.

It is like a sick game they are BOTH playing on camera.....and, quite frankly it is very uncomfortable to watch!  

Edited September 4, 2019 by Dance4Life

[Keywestclubkid]

The $100000 question still remains. Did Shane pass the bar? 

[DivaLasVegas82]

25 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

The man sat on camera and said he didn’t miss his wife or kids at all that he basically didn’t want to go home. He is beyond checked out of the marriage 

Emily and Shane's marriage is a study in psychology over how some women will turn themselves inside out to try to make a marriage work.

[Dance4Life]

Just now, DivaLasVegas82 said:

Emily and Shane's marriage is a study in psychology over how some women will turn themselves inside out to try to make a marriage work.

Or, play it at the end to get a better deal in the divorce. Very manipulative.

Shane looked like he had been out partying and showed up starving! He looked all sweaty and in major a’hole-mode! 

If my husband left to some hotel to *study* and did not want me to stop by during a meal to chat......I would change the locks.  

But, this marital drama is her storyline! 

I am not sticking up for Shane.  I just do not like how Emily is giving this ‘end of marriage’  storyline life. 

[Sew Sumi]

34 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

The $100000 question still remains. Did Shane pass the bar? 

It's been confirmed that he didn't. Not sure if he tried again in July. 

[ninjago]

Gina is so up Shannon’s ass.  Embarrassing.

[ShawnaLanne]

On 9/3/2019 at 8:34 PM, KungFuBunny said:

So Braunwyn has some issues with her mom about her upbringing that she has chosen to wait until there was a camera and sound to address.

Mom left you alone at 4, mom left you with various relatives, your childhood was uncoventional. Mom is self absorbed and cares more about herself than raising a child.

If these things are true - why the hell would you let this woman babysit your kids EVER!

I believe all of that is true, except for leaving me alone at 4, it sounds like my childhood, and I would and have left my child with both birth and adopted parents.

Edited September 5, 2019 by ShawnaLanne

[AntAnn]

2 hours ago, Thumper said:

Can't believe Kelly keeps hinting about getting engaged.

IKR! She thinks she’s all that because she hooked the sugar daddy husband Michael. So she made a 5 mill settlement in the divorce. Not that much in the OC. Unfortunately for her, she is no prize. You can’t even take her out in public

[Lizzing]

I want to know who in the hell decided both Shane & Dr. Deb got confessionals and I want that person tarred and feathered.  Then fired.  Then sent to the eye of Dorian.

First with Braunwyn: I think when she copped to lying while they were riding the double decker bus, it knocked everyone else off their game for a minute because no one on this show ever admits to lying.  But i can't trust what she says.  On this episode, she says she didn't know there was bad blood between Tamra/Lizzie/Gretchen.  In other interviews, she admits to being a huge fan of the show and says she's watched every episode.  Either she's intensely stupid, has terrible attention to detail, or is lying, because most everyone who has watched this show since Gretchen was on knows she and Tamra are not on good terms and likely never will be.

Shane & the post bar exam come-down:  Look, I get not wanting to talk specifics after the exam.  The last thing you want to do is "post mortem" and go over questions and compare how you answered them with how others did.  Hell, I didn't talk to one friend until the results came out because she was a prolific post-mortemer on regular exams and I couldn't handle that level of self-doubt for three months while waiting for the bar results.  And I get wanting to unwind after finishing (hello, entire bottle of cheap wine & Trainspotting VHS).  And, hell, I'll even spot Shane the "I don't want to film" card, even though his ass (and his entire family) is collecting a Bravo check.  But at least muster up an "I'm glad to be done and relax with the kids." Or, if he's really, reallllly hungry, an "I'm so glad the test is over so I can eat without stress."  Or at the very, very least, a "Let's Netflix and chill" (meaning (a) turning on copy written content Bravo can't/won't film and (b) actually chilling, because he ain't touching Emily).  The best I can come up with is that he really gets off on being seen as a huge asshole.

And then there's Gina.  Her lawyer not checking to see if the continuance was granted is sloppy, so that's not on Gina.  And Tamra was straight-up wrong thinking Emily should have rep'd Gina.  Emily is an intellectual property lawyer.  That'd be like going to your dermatologist for a colonoscopy.  Yeah, they *probably* could do it but (a) their malpractice insurance isn't going to be happy and (b) they haven't seen it since school.  But anyway, Gina then goes to meet Shannon at the furniture store to talk about her divorce and Gina does not buy one stick of furniture.  Her house is EMPTY!  She was sitting on the floor!  Get a couch, Gina!  LOL!

I didn't realize Vicki wasn't there until someone upthread pointed it out. Didn't miss her at all.  Still hate her for trawling for clients through her cancer "charity".  But still know it was Tamra who unleashed the "train" rumor.  No one needs to let that pissed off possum off the hook for that story. (That is why I love this board--y'all know who let that cat out of the bag.)

[UsernameFatigue]

9 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

She looks awful.  Her makeup is smeared and she is all puffy.  I know she needs the money but last year she only made $60,000.  Is it worth it??  I guess she is probably making more this year but still...

I don't mind Shane.  I am similar in that I don't have tons of feelings and I would not want a film crew in my house.  He is just being real, I think, and we are not used to that.  We are used to the fluffy bullshit these assholes put out for us.

And finally - I hate Tamra so much I cannot even look at her rat face!

I would still take Shane over Emily. And I totally agree that he is just being real, rather than playing to the camera as the others do. Shane actually tried to engage in conversation with Emily He asked about Gina's court date, how Emily's day was, etc. Emily is the one who kept insisting on talking about Shane's bar exam, which he clearly did not want to talk about. I have a very sweet husband, but if he comes home stressed from work I am smart enough not to continually ask him about it. Emily may be the most clueless person I have ever seen when it comes to reading someone.

Also, WTF is it about Emily letting her kids abuse or try to abuse animals? Her daughter ran and took a swipe at that chicken on the railing. I have no patience for children who abuse animals, and even less for their moronic parents who allow it. 

That Bronte lied is not a surprise to me. At all. And she thinks that she has been a fabulous mother all these years? In my experience, women who referred to themselves are fabulous mothers rarely are. Go away Bronte, and take your hippy dippy mother with you. 

Edited September 4, 2019 by UsernameFatigue

[CrinkleCutCat]

So Shane didn’t eat for the 10 days he was away studying?

[MajorNelson]

In the beginning of the show, at the restaurant, and the train is brought up....

Kelly says "So ridiculous.  Stop..."

and "It's just like I'm getting it from all ends."

😮

[MajorNelson]

2 hours ago, LibertarianSlut said:

I can't believe Braunwyn lied like that.  And then she lied again when she said she had no memory before confessing?  Get the fuck out of here with that shit. I feel like lies of this caliber are like shoplifting and drunk driving--for every 20 lies you tell, you get caught in one.  So, I would seriously watch Braun going forward.  Who gives a shit if you're friends with Lizzie and Gretchen?  I like them!  And I'll be damned if I'm going to lie about it.

She could have just said "I know them" or "they are friends with my best friend so I texted them, so what?" Tamra then would come back with "but she is my enemy, so that makes you  my enemy"  So then Bronte, has Tamra teed up and can play a soft reply or a hard one, but Tamra can be made to appear as small person.

My question is who keeps screenshots of texts and sends them to one's enemies?  The receiver?  Is this because the iphones used are owned/issued  by Evolution Media?

[KLovestoShop]

What kind of doctor is Braunwyn’s mom?  She looks like a witch doctor, and if she walked into my hospital room, I’d get an ambo to take me to another hospital.  The woman is a freak.

Do these women not see the one common denominator on this show?  It’s divorce.  So if you want a successful marriage, don’t apply for this show.

[ivygirl]

6 hours ago, Mr. Minor said:

All the little turd can muster is a side hug. 🖕🏻

He friend zoned his own wife. But even calling her his “friend” at this point is questionable.

4 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

The $100000 question still remains. Did Shane pass the bar? 

Well we know he didn’t stop in on the way home! *Badumsssshhhhhhttt* *Restrains self from making a Gina joke*

Man, in the first five minutes of this episode, Tams was in full hypocrite mode. Who does she think she is, Vicki?

[Duke2801]

6 hours ago, Dance4Life said:

A husband that doesn’t want to be on camera and over all the fakeness that is this show!

Eddie acts the same way.....but, it doesn’t bother people since Tamra is not well-liked.

Eddie may act a bit reserved and even annoyed at times, but he’s never acted anything remotely like Shane. Eddie clearly (and often inexplicably) loves Tamra the Terrible. I don’t know if Shane’s ever loved Emily. If he once did, those feelings appear to be long gone.

8 hours ago, BluBrd47 said:

I know I should feel sorry for Braunwyn but I can’t. If you are in your mid forties and have seven kids and are still crying over mean girls you have too much time on your hands.

Is it ok in your early 40s? Braunwyn is 41. Although I’m not sure why someone’s age or how many kids they have has any bearing on getting your feelings hurt. 

[blondiek237]

7 hours ago, ParadoxLost said:

Kelly is under reacting to the rumor on screen.  I'm getting the feeling that she went nuclear in reality to the point that it was handled off screen and that is how Vicki came to be demoted.  I don't think anyone decided to clue in Kelly at this point the part that Tamra played.

What is worse is that he's lumping the kids in with Emily.  He can't even put up the pretense of missing them with the producers.

I don't know.  The crying jag manipulated Tamra into dropping her line of attack.  I'm not shocked that Bronwyn did show recon before starting to film.  She is transparently thirsty about being a reality star.

And a rockstar.  I think she might be using Burning Man to cross the 8th Dimension.

I would like to say that I fully expect to be the only one who knows of what I speak and it seems wrong that I have both Real Housewives and Buckaroo Bonzai in my mental rolodex.  

Love love love Buckeroo Bonzai

[Higgins]

9 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

Somewhere in the world there is a bald nekkid Hollie Hobby Doll

I had that doll!!

[CrinkleCutCat]

7 minutes ago, Higgins said:

I had that doll!!

Me too!!!

[ladypoodle]

When trailer trash Tamra has the nicest house you know its time they got some better cast - we watch for house porn so please deliver

Pary- she looks scary. Her advice for Emily to raise her grievances with the twa-let instead of having a conversation with her husband is what I'd expect from a Persian mother in law- her son can do no wrong so don't waste your time lady.

Bronwyns mother is an a-hole. She's lucky her daughter came out of her childhood mostly unscathed.

overall kinda boring.

[Andyourlittledog2]

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Bronwyns mother is an a-hole. She's lucky her daughter came out of her childhood mostly unscathed.

Seriously.  I had no idea that the standard for child rearing was simply keeping them out of refugee camps. I put in all that time and love and effort for nothing I guess.  Dr Deb is a narcissist and clearly has no idea what parenthood or personal responsibility means.  I feel sorry for Braunwyn having a mother like her. Not that we can blame our entire lives and life decisions on our parents forever, but DD's complete dismissal of Braunwyn's legitimate feelings was hard to watch. What a witch.

[Dance4Life]

Braunwyn’s mom had a second family.  On her IG.....they are college kids. The boy attends Yale. For some reason....they won’t be on the show....it looks like.

The mom straightened out.  Go her medical degree.  Raised more kids. She is married, too.

Braunwyn is just selling herself and trying to come up with interesting stories about her life. 

It is like she stole.....Teddy Melloncamps storyline.

But, she is coming off as Queen of Versailles.  Disorientated and fame hungry!

[Higgins]

12 minutes ago, Andyourlittledog2 said:

 Seriously.  I had no idea that the standard for child rearing was simply keeping them out of refugee camps. I put in all that time and love and effort for nothing I guess.  Dr Deb is a narcissist and clearly has no idea what parenthood or personal responsibility means.  I feel sorry for Braunwyn having a mother like her. Not that we can blame our entire lives and life decisions on our parents forever, but DD's complete dismissal of Braunwyn's legitimate feelings was hard to watch. What a witch.

But she was so virtuous to give back the plastic straw. So what if she neglected her daughter? 

Edited September 4, 2019 by Higgins

[chlban]

6 hours ago, UsernameFatigue said:

I would still take Shane over Emily, And I totally agree that he is just being real, rather than playing to the camersa as the others do. Shane actually tried to engage in conversation with Emily He asked about Gina's court date, how Emily's day was, etc. Emily is the one who kept insisting on talking about Shane's bar exam, which he clearly did not want to talk about. I have a very sweet husband, but if he comes home stressed from work I am smart enough not to continually ask him about it. Emily may be the most clueless person I have ever seen when it comes to reading someone.

Also, WTF is it about Emily letting her kids abuse or try to abuse animals? Her daughter ran and took a swipe at that chicken on the railing. I have no patience for children who abuse animals, and even less for their moronic parents who allow it. 

That Bronte lied is not a surprise to me. At all. And she thinks that she has been a fabulous mother all these years? In my experience, women who referred to themselves are fabulous mothers rarely are. Go away Bronte, and take your hippy dippy mother with you. 

I detest Shane and the marriage is clearly over, but I have to agree that he did try to make some casual conversation, but Emily kept harping on the exam. He said something about not wanting to jinx it, or maybe he is embarassed, whatever, she could have let it drop. Some women like to play victim. Not surprised that the baby machine is a shit stirrer, I didn't like her from the start, which means I don't like any of these women, although to my continued amazement, Shannon has become my favorite. However, it is a very low bar. Trashy Tammy is awful.

Edited September 4, 2019 by chlban

[tvfanatic13]

Watching now and will comment after but Shane is such a friggin douchenozzle! Ugh.