S17.E09: The Stitch Is Back

[SuprSuprElevated]

4 hours ago, meowmommy said:

They probably see him more as a peer

They shouldn't, lol.  Being one's contemporary does not = peer.

[dleighg]

7 hours ago, meowmommy said:

My first thought when the models started down the runway was that I was watching a Village People reunion.

I had the same thought

7 hours ago, Lamb18 said:

I forgot which person Renee helped - was it Bishme? I would have chosen her first.

LOL I'm pretty sure it was Lela 

[SuprSuprElevated]

On 5/9/2019 at 11:13 PM, njbchlover said:

This may be an unpopular opinion, but I didn't really care too much for Jamal's design.  It was creative, but I don't feel like it met the challenge.

I would even challenge that it was creative.  I don't get why he's still around frankly.

[dleighg]

1 hour ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

I would even challenge that it was creative.  I don't get why he's still around frankly.

Somehow they love his "wrap a comforter around the model" stuff. I completely agree with upthread comments that there is no way in hell this would have been worn by Elton John in the 70s or 80s. 

[Beden]

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I don't why the film didn't use the actual costumes that Elton John wore back in the day.  

I thought the same thing. I mean, it’s very creative for a new designer to come up with looks for the film, but doesn’t pay homage to the original designers.

There are a couple of possible reasons for this.

First of all there could be a question as to who owns the original designs and legal permission and rights. For example, one of the most well known costumes was the rhinestone, glitzed up NY Yankees uniform designed by Bob Mackie, Okay, maybe Elton owns that, maybe John's company/holdings/estate/whatever, maybe Mackie retained the rights, maybe not. I don't know. Multiply by however many costumes we're talking about and it could become a legal and logistical nightmare. Ownership of designs (costumes, illustrations, architectural plans or whatever) can become thorny with copyrights, contracts and whatnot. Could be the producers didn't want to pay the rights for their use? It wouldn't have been as simple as getting some pictures and making a line by line copy. I do know that every costume/set/lighting design has a union stamp and the designer's signature on it and is usually registered with their union for the designer's protection.

Secondly, perhaps the producers and film designers wanted to put their own stamp on the production (while retaining the original feel of the period and clothing). Rather than just reproduce stuff, update, edit or whatever.

I don't know the answer but the costume designer (sorry, forget his name) is clearly a well regarded pro, pretty much has to be a member of the union and looks to me like he did a pretty good job, whatever the parameters might have been.

Edited May 11, 2019 by Beden

[Lyinfait]

16 hours ago, TVbitch said:

Do not get the Jamal love. He wrapped a bed sheet around a model a couple challenges ago and won. This time he wraps a comforter around a model and gets top 3. And they called it "interesting volume with draping" or some shit.

I actually liked Tessa's a lot.

I hated the judges acting like fucking high school teens giggling and making suggestive comments about the male models. That was inappropriate and juvenile. Only the costume designer guest judge was professional and respectful.   

His style has only ever looked to me like a puffy coat or down alternative blanket tied or draped around the body. This week, it looked like a hybrid coat blanket tied around the waist the way we used to tie our coats when we tired of carrying them. It always looked silly when the kids with the puffy coats tried to do it. Yet today it's considered top 3. Go figure. I'm tired of these new designers focused on having their 'signature' in everything be it puff, fringe, no hem, corset, one color only or whatever anyway. I feel that they have confused signature with gimmick and are boxing themselves in (one way ponies in a pen?). It's an annoying trend seen on reality television. You don't have a "brand"! Do good work. You can't help but leave your personal mark on all you create, that signature will develop on its own.

[rafibomb]

Oh God, I could not watch while Jamal cut the face out of his zebra chicken outfit. 

"What's this?" (Fumbling around)

"Uh, my forehead."

[staphdude]

10 hours ago, Kdel1079 said:

nice eye candy this episode with the male models! 😍

Right eh. And they could use more eye candy for the female models too correct?

7 hours ago, Corgi-ears said:

I agree that the show was very leery towards the models, and then towards the designers for being so thirsty. But I'm not sure the designers were sexually harassing the models, in large part because their comments were made to the camera as confessionals, or to each other. Rewatching the sequences, these are the comments and their contexts:

When the models first arrive for measurements, we get the following: 

• Sebastian talks to the camera about how "the male models, they all are gorgeous," and thus he tells himself not to look but to focus on his work;
• Tessa jokes to her model that she won't make his pants too tight ("because I will make the crotch ill-fitting and insane" is unspoken), followed by her confessing to the camera that she is "starved for straight males," and that the models smell good;
• Lela and Renee ask their model is he's comfy wearing chaps, and Lela titters in front of her model about how measuring guys is different.  

After the models leave, in the sewing room:

• Tessa talks to Sonia about how the latter's (i.e., Garo's) model smelt real good, and asks who he is; Bishme jumps in and jokes about Fedex packages, and Frankie says that they don't need anything "swinging" as the models walk.

The next morning, Bishme and his mom talk about his model's butt. The models then come in for their second fitting, and:

• Tessa talks in a confessional about beginning to enjoy the challenge, though "maybe it's the male models in the room";
• Lela blushingly tells her model that he can keep his underwear on; Renee laughs, and Lela says her bf might kill her;

So based on what we're shown, Lela and Tessa did make comments to their models' faces; for the most part, the other comments were kept between the designers, or the designers and the camera. Of course, this does mean that the models did and would eventually hear the confessionals. Were the intra-designer conversations too lascivious? Probably; the sewing room conversation about dicks was the most egregious. But in all I would say, albeit with some hesitation, that the atmosphere in the workroom while the models were there was fairly professional. 

Those discussions were fine but when someone questions the size, appearance or quality of a female model they are inappropriate...

[Tabbygirl521]

On 5/9/2019 at 8:21 PM, mightysparrow said:

How dare they criticize Lela's chap-pants when they drooled all over the pasties and the butt-cheek bathing suit.

Edited to add:  I really like Venny but he's had a LOT of chances.  I think the reason he survived is that he's better tv than Lela.

I think I heard Brandon say something how you could see into his thong, which I noticed as well. It pooched out a tiny bit. I’m not sure but I think that may have been part of the problem. 

I felt bad for Lela, getting that iron residue on her costume. But her look was lame. I think at best her vision sounded very Village People. 

I was longing for someone to do a Crocodile Rock costume. 

[khyber]

The winning outfit didn't remind me of Elton John. It reminded me of Bootsy Collins or Parliament Funkadelic. 

[carrps]

12 hours ago, Kdel1079 said:

nice eye candy this episode with the male models! 😍

I thought Vennie was a bit handicapped with his model, who had a rather unproportional body. He had an extremely long torso with relatively short legs. Trying to design for that shape is why I think Vennie ended up with such a droopy jacket. But the color scheme was bad, too, although I think Nadine pushed for that in Mood.

[millennium]

9 hours ago, Corgi-ears said:

I agree that the show was very leery towards the models, and then towards the designers for being so thirsty. But I'm not sure the designers were sexually harassing the models, in large part because their comments were made to the camera as confessionals, or to each other. Rewatching the sequences, these are the comments and their contexts:

When the models first arrive for measurements, we get the following: 

• Sebastian talks to the camera about how "the male models, they all are gorgeous," and thus he tells himself not to look but to focus on his work;
• Tessa jokes to her model that she won't make his pants too tight ("because I will make the crotch ill-fitting and insane" is unspoken), followed by her confessing to the camera that she is "starved for straight males," and that the models smell good;
• Lela and Renee ask their model is he's comfy wearing chaps, and Lela titters in front of her model about how measuring guys is different.  

After the models leave, in the sewing room:

• Tessa talks to Sonia about how the latter's (i.e., Garo's) model smelt real good, and asks who he is; Bishme jumps in and jokes about Fedex packages, and Frankie says that they don't need anything "swinging" as the models walk.

The next morning, Bishme and his mom talk about his model's butt. The models then come in for their second fitting, and:

• Tessa talks in a confessional about beginning to enjoy the challenge, though "maybe it's the male models in the room";
• Lela blushingly tells her model that he can keep his underwear on; Renee laughs, and Lela says her bf might kill her;

So based on what we're shown, Lela and Tessa did make comments to their models' faces; for the most part, the other comments were kept between the designers, or the designers and the camera. Of course, this does mean that the models did and would eventually hear the confessionals. Were the intra-designer conversations too lascivious? Probably; the sewing room conversation about dicks was the most egregious. But in all I would say, albeit with some hesitation, that the atmosphere in the workroom while the models were there was fairly professional. 

I'm not sure anyone suggested models were harassed (I certainly didn't).   My gripe was the (for lack of a better term) locker room humor   That doesn't fly anymore.  Even some of the lewd remarks between the designers themselves could be deemed inappropriate, and a designer could complain that he/she had been harassed by them.   There's no making this okay.   

[Gothish520]

21 hours ago, hurrrz said:

I hated the way they (TPTB and contestants (assuming it was somewhat forced)) handled the male models. From the porn music when they first entered to the whole objectification and "OMG hot flashes, I am SO distracted" banter. They could never do this with the female models. Why is this OK to do with the male ones? 

It is wrong to treat anyone like a piece of meat. But, seeing as how women have been treated like sex objects and subjected to oogling, catcalls, gropes, threats against jobs, and all manner of piggish behavior from men for centuries, I can't get too worked up over a little swooning. Payback's a bitch, innit? 

[Corgi-ears]

17 minutes ago, millennium said:

I'm not sure anyone suggested models were harassed (I certainly didn't).   My gripe was the (for lack of a better term) locker room humor

Sure, you're right to gripe about the "locker room humor." But there is a conversation going on about it being "sexual harassment" here, here, here, here, and here.

[Jobiska]

15 hours ago, DaphneCat said:

I really think that was her rather clumsy way of acknowledging that the whole thing was an epic fail.  She had a vision and completely f'ed it up.  She even admitted it was a good thing she had immunity as it was the worst thing on the runway.  I'm not really a fan of her style but I much prefer it if a designer can just admit everything went wrong rather than trying to defend some atrocity.

I agree--I think she had a vision, and then was startled to see it turned into a turkey, so she just took it with a good sense of humor, and cracked jokes about it; I still think she would have preferred it to not have been a turkey, but was making the best of it.  Easier to do since she had immunity, but still, even though I'm not a huge Hester fan, I appreciate people who can see the humor in something.

[ML89]

I have to agree with everyone upthread who said Garo's looked more Earth, Wind & Fire/Parliment Funkadelic than Elton because that's what I thought too. Even though I'm not a big Garo fan, I thought Sonia was way over the line. What was that performance?

Bishme vs Garo, I think Bishme, because it was something I hadn't seen Elton wear but could imagine it. Garo's was more on the nose and his corsets are becoming Top Chef Jamie's scallops. We just need a Fabio: "It's Project Runway not Project Corset."

As one of the few folks who liked Cavendish (I could relate to her "wash my hair" comment), I'm glad she stayed out of Sebastien's decisions and just helped him execute. A few other people could have done that, Sonia. 

What in the world was Jamal's getup and why did it make the top 3? That is a complete mystery. I nearly screamed when he got those scissors up around his model's face. Why not mark it with chalk and then cut the hole after it's off his head? I'm surprised a producer didn't step in.

Sad for Lela but either of the bottom 2 could have gone. I'll be interested to see if Hester starts the inevitable slide now that she can't use immunity.

[jackjill89]

I looked at the Bravo site at all the garments again. Jamall's is hideous. It is nothing but a big puffy zebra chicken, period. There is nothing fashionable about it. NO ONE would wear that on stage. NO ONE. Certainly not Elton John. That guy does't have a point of view except ugly garments. He has done this puffy stuff to death. He keeps talking about this gender bending conceptual blah, blah, blah. But I see nothing artistic, creative, or unique. I see ugly. I can appreciate different points of view. I can appreciate challenging norms. But this kid is all talk and nothing he does lives up to his talk.  Dude has got to go. Stat. 

[akr]

The design on Bishme's t-shirt didn't seem like something Elton John would have worn, but I liked the design otherwise. 

[staphdude]

4 hours ago, Gothish520 said:

Payback's a bitch, innit? 

Or it normalizes behaviour and provides cover for those who engage in it. Say for instance if a designer or viewer to say that a model wasn’t hot enough and we needed someone people want to look at....More Cindy Crawford less androgynous stick figure. That is good right.

[dleighg]

I'm old enough to have grown up with the expression "two wrongs don't make a right."

5 hours ago, Gothish520 said:

Payback's a bitch, innit? 

[mightysparrow]

6 hours ago, Corgi-ears said:

Sure, you're right to gripe about the "locker room humor." But there is a conversation going on about it being "sexual harassment" here, here, here, here, and here.

Sexual harassment isn't just grabbing someone by the ass.  On several occasions the male models were discussed as if they were objects.  It doesn't matter that they weren't in the room.  Having those conversations broadcast all over the world could be very humiliating to the person being discussed. 

[phoenix780]

I think Jamal has fallen into the place where for the judges his growth is a positive reflection on their guidance, hence he stays without aired comment when the challenge was explicitly early Elton. He's the one contestant I don't really enjoy, because he seems arrogant. Not super arrogant, just enough that I'm not into watching him. Actually, he may just remind me too much of someone I know and don't like. 

This episode got me to put down my phone and focus. Only RuPaul and Game of Thrones currently do that. It's weird, going back to Bravo, a channel built on shows where awful people fight, seems to have brought back the fun and...heart. I love this judging panel, and Christian. The contestants are mostly fun, for me. It's nice. 

I thought Bishme should have won, because he made a performance piece that also had merch- the t shirt would sell. 

I remember the Madonna video Garo mentioned designing for, and I remember it partly because of the costumes. I wonder what his role was, whether he lead or was part of the team. 

I didn't disagree with them about the designer who went home, but, man, that had to have been hard for her to watch. Those comments were blunt. 

[violet and green]

22 hours ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

I disagree.  I didn't mind the colours whatsoever but the crotch drove me insane.  It didn't fit whatsoever!  Kors would have fainted.

I meant that line as a run-on to the comment that the male models were very good on the runway. One fellow did look a little stiff and constricted in his outfit, arriving on stage - Venny's model, I think, probably worrying about those trains - but the rest of them walked as if they were on stage at Milan. I think half the joy of that runway was in how those models presented the looks, good or bad.

Anyway, to be honest, I did not notice the crotch. My mind was, as ever, on more elevated things! Tessa's model modeled the heck out of that Joseph's Amazing Shades of Brown and Pumpkin-Porridge Dream Coat outfit.

[Stats Queen]

35 minutes ago, violet and green said:

but the rest of them walked as if they were on stage at Milan. I think half the joy of that runway was in how those models presented the looks, good or bad.

I agree. I thought the male models were outstanding on the runway.

[blondiek237]

21 hours ago, Reality police said:

Funeral for a friend and Love lies Bleeding are my favorites. I'm old also. 

Me too.  I want Funeral for a friend played at my funeral 

[chitowngirl]

Mona Lisas and Mad Hatters will always be it for me, but Funeral for a Friend/Love Lies Bleeding is a close second.

Edited May 12, 2019 by chitowngirl

[Gothish520]

22 hours ago, staphdude said:

Or it normalizes behaviour and provides cover for those who engage in it. Say for instance if a designer or viewer to say that a model wasn’t hot enough and we needed someone people want to look at....More Cindy Crawford less androgynous stick figure. That is good right.

22 hours ago, dleighg said:

I'm old enough to have grown up with the expression "two wrongs don't make a right."

20 hours ago, mightysparrow said:

Sexual harassment isn't just grabbing someone by the ass.  On several occasions the male models were discussed as if they were objects.  It doesn't matter that they weren't in the room.  Having those conversations broadcast all over the world could be very humiliating to the person being discussed. 

If anything inappropriate was said or done, I would agree. But if it's wrong to tell someone that you think someone else is hot or smells good, then we are all screwed.

Edited May 12, 2019 by Gothish520

[Ilovepie]

16 hours ago, dleighg said:

there is no way in hell this would have been worn by Elton John in the 70s or 80s. 

Or any sane person with working eyeballs in any decade, really......

[sarkygal]

I think Garo got the win over Bishme specifically because his outfit would have worked as a costume for Rocketman (the performance). Julian the lovely guest judge made a point of saying Bishme’s look was perfect for another EJ song.

I personally prefer Bishme’s look too, but Garo’s was beautifully crafted. Garo seems to have had a level of success, including a previous reality show, that the others don’t. Is it really fair for him to even be in a PR competition? Anyone know the story behind his design studio going bust? The brief stuff they showed just raised more questions for me. 

[Beden]

6 minutes ago, sarkygal said:

Garo seems to have had a level of success, including a previous reality show, that the others don’t. Is it really fair for him to even be in a PR competition?

I don't have any opinion regarding Garo's being on another reality show or not (was he? I didn't know or care). But as I recall those horrid twins a few years ago basically seemed to be making their careers out of being on different reality shows, spewing lies about how they hadn't cheated but were misunderstood victims. I'd presume they continued to get the gigs simply because people would either not know they'd been around that block before or were so awful people would tune in to see what BS they were up to this time and it's about ratings. Clearly the producers would have access to know where they'd been and how they'd fared.

Illegal, against the rules? Maybe, but money is money and ratings are ratings. I don't defend it, just understand it.

[Ilovepie]

Garro was on another reality show? I didn’t know that either. I am totally fine with having designers with real world experience/success on this show vs. people who just started out (Jamall). I think it legitimizes the show somewhat, plus those type of people seem have a greater sense of how to act professionally. They also seem more able to churn out quality work under the time constraints.

[Ashforth]

Project Runway has never billed itself as a contest solely for amateur or inexperienced designers. From Season 1 on, the contestants have ranged from designers with little to no experience to those who have worked professionally in the industry. Many contestants have had their own fashion lines (with varying degrees of success) prior to being on the show. Some of the contestants have been to fashion school and some are self-taught.

Life doesn't have a level playing field.

[kicksave]

On 5/9/2019 at 10:26 PM, Thumper said:

So the judges thought the "chaps" design on the male model was distasteful ( or something like that).  It showed some of his hipline.   

Would they say the same for a female model?  (Thinking of butt cheeks hanging out, pasties on nipples, etc.) 😒😒

Spot on! Don't forget side boob.

[sarkygal]

2 hours ago, Ilovepie said:

Garro was on another reality show? I didn’t know that either. I am totally fine with having designers with real world experience/success on this show vs. people who just started out (Jamall). I think it legitimizes the show somewhat, plus those type of people seem have a greater sense of how to act professionally. They also seem more able to churn out quality work under the time constraints.

I don’t know anyone who’s seen it but IMDb has him starting in a show in 2011 on the sundance channel. I’m new to actively watching PR so I didn’t know they allowed established designers to compete. 

I just feel Sebastian or Bishme would benefit more from the mentorship component of the winning prize. 

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1860647/plotsummary

[kicksave]

One of the designers said Elton John was a "pioneer" in gender bending. Nope...that award would go to David Bowie. Elton John was a rock version of Liberace.

[kicksave]

19 hours ago, mightysparrow said:

Sexual harassment isn't just grabbing someone by the ass.  On several occasions the male models were discussed as if they were objects.  It doesn't matter that they weren't in the room.  Having those conversations broadcast all over the world could be very humiliating to the person being discussed. 

Also...the comments that were made smacked of poor taste and were unprofessional. 

[caitmcg]

6 hours ago, sarkygal said:

Anyone know the story behind his design studio going bust? The brief stuff they showed just raised more questions for me. 

I don't think it did. He said he thought he'd lose business after 9/11 because it was in lower Manhattan (actually the East Village, I believe), but that it ended up okay. He still has a NYC studio.

[Jordan Baker]

22 hours ago, phoenix780 said:

It's weird, going back to Bravo, a channel built on shows where awful people fight, seems to have brought back the fun and...heart. I love this judging panel, and Christian. The contestants are mostly fun, for me. It's nice. 

I think the early years of Bravo were OK, before it became All Housewives All the Time. Wasn't it Bravo that carried Inside the Actors Studio? 

But, yes, it's encouraging that the show hasn't included any table-flipping.

No one has mentioned my favorite EJ song--"Come Down in Time."

[Snewtsie]

I’d love a challenge where the designers are barred from incorporating their signature looks- no corset for Garo, no puff for Jamall, no kitsch for Hester, no unfinished hems for Tessa, no top stitch for Sebastian, etc.  I can't really think what Bishme & Venny's specialties are, but you get the idea.  Make them break away from the one trademark element they continually fall back on.  And while I am dreaming, I would love an entire season where the designers are banned from using black, but maybe have one challenge where they can use only black. 

[heavysnaxx]

5 hours ago, kicksave said:

Elton John was a rock version of Liberace.

Now you've done it! You mentioned EJ + Liberace and that means I have to share this exquisite SCTV parody from around 1982-ish. I could NOT stop thinking about Rick Moranis's Elton John in a onesie with festive holiday ornamentation throughout this entire episode of PR. Garo who?

Watch the video and you'll see SCTV's own amazing costume designer, Jules Haalmeyer, trying not to laugh as he whips Liberace. Seriously, Haalmeyer created the most hilarious costumes with basically no budget and unconventional materials, week after week. He also got roped into performing - they made him, a non-dancer, the head of the show's Jules Haalmeyer Dancers.

This week's judge was delightful and, I'm sure, a fine costume designer, but no one can hold a candle (in the wind, or anywhere) to Jules Haalmeyer, in my book.

Edited May 13, 2019 by heavysnaxx

[ElectricBoogaloo]

7 hours ago, Snewtsie said:

I’d love a challenge where the designers are barred from incorporating their signature looks- no corset for Garo, no puff for Jamall, no kitsch for Hester, no unfinished hems for Tessa, no top stitch for Sebastian, etc.  I can't really think what Bishme & Venny's specialties are, but you get the idea.  Make them break away from the one trademark element they continually fall back on.  And while I am dreaming, I would love an entire season where the designers are banned from using black, but maybe have one challenge where they can use only black. 

Yes, I would love this. I remember American Idol used to do an episode where the judges got to choose a song for each contestant so I would love to see one week on PR where the judges get to give the designers specific parameters like that. No black for anyone, no corset for Garo, etc. I get that as a designer you should have a distinct point of view and you can have a signature thing, but it’s strange how some contestants get called out after doing something twice and others are allowed to do it all season. It would be nice to have one week where EVERYONE has to work outside their comfort zone without leaning on their usual crutch. 

[Deskisamess]

12 hours ago, heavysnaxx said:

Now you've done it! You mentioned EJ + Liberace and that means I have to share this exquisite SCTV parody from around 1982-ish. I could NOT stop thinking about Rick Moranis's Elton John in a onesie with festive holiday ornamentation throughout this entire episode of PR. Garo who?

John Candy as Orson Wells was amazing. SCTV was everything SNL ever hoped to be. Rick was Elton here.

[little black cloud]

On 5/10/2019 at 5:45 PM, backgroundnoise said:

I think what should have tipped it to Bishme is that no one BUT Elton John would have worn it.  Garo's was a more cliched dazzle-rock outfit that would have also fit a KISS or Elvis challenge.

You know, @backgroundnoise, you've changed my mind about who should have won. I was dazzled by Garo's workmanship, which was exquisite, and the degree of difficulty in making such a heavily embellished, well-fitting piece of performance wear -- but it's true that Bishme's outfit was Elton John down to the toes, and absolutely no one else.

[bitchin camaro]

On 5/11/2019 at 6:44 AM, dleighg said:

Somehow they love his "wrap a comforter around the model" stuff. I completely agree with upthread comments that there is no way in hell this would have been worn by Elton John in the 70s or 80s. 

Maybe if he was home sick with the flu.

Is that a sleeve sticking out of the side? Maybe I'm just an old fuddy-duddy and Bed Bath & Beyond-chic is the next big fashion trend, but I just do not get it. 

I loooooooved Garo's look. Loved Bishme's too so I was cool with either one winning. They were so far above everything else that it didn't really matter who the third top look was, but it still pisses me off that it was that Big Bird on acid monstrosity from Jamal.

[Tabbygirl521]

On 5/12/2019 at 5:46 PM, heavysnaxx said:

Now you've done it! You mentioned EJ + Liberace and that means I have to share this exquisite SCTV parody from around 1982-ish. I could NOT stop thinking about Rick Moranis's Elton John in a onesie with festive holiday ornamentation throughout this entire episode of PR. Garo who?

Watch the video and you'll see SCTV's own amazing costume designer, Jules Haalmeyer, trying not to laugh as he whips Liberace. Seriously, Haalmeyer created the most hilarious costumes with basically no budget and unconventional materials, week after week. He also got roped into performing - they made him, a non-dancer, the head of the show's Jules Haalmeyer Dancers.

This week's judge was delightful and, I'm sure, a fine costume designer, but no one can hold a candle (in the wind, or anywhere) to Jules Haalmeyer, in my book.

I love you for posting this! I still mourn the loss of SCTV. 

[Special K]

Thanks for all the links and memories of EJ back in the day! 

I'll add that I just saw him in March as part of his Farewell Yellow Brick Road tour.  It was amazing.  There's still time folks!
 

[kicksave]

On 5/12/2019 at 8:46 PM, heavysnaxx said:

Now you've done it! You mentioned EJ + Liberace and that means I have to share this exquisite SCTV parody from around 1982-ish. I could NOT stop thinking about Rick Moranis's Elton John in a onesie with festive holiday ornamentation throughout this entire episode of PR. Garo who?

Watch the video and you'll see SCTV's own amazing costume designer, Jules Haalmeyer, trying not to laugh as he whips Liberace. Seriously, Haalmeyer created the most hilarious costumes with basically no budget and unconventional materials, week after week. He also got roped into performing - they made him, a non-dancer, the head of the show's Jules Haalmeyer Dancers.

This week's judge was delightful and, I'm sure, a fine costume designer, but no one can hold a candle (in the wind, or anywhere) to Jules Haalmeyer, in my book.

Ok...SCTV is one of my most favorite shows ever...that sketch was classic. Love it when John Candy walked away with the rotisserie chicken! Adding Andrea Martin as Ethel Merman was the icing on the cake!

[h2ogirl]

Jamal seems like a nice person, but I am so very much over his sleeping bag as clothing aesthetic. It's just not attractive in the least. 

[ElectricBoogaloo]

10 hours ago, h2ogirl said:

Jamal seems like a nice person, but I am so very much over his sleeping bag as clothing aesthetic. It's just not attractive in the least. 

But it's so functional! If you happen to decide to go camping at the last minute, you already have a sleeping bag with you!

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18 hours ago, h2ogirl said:

Jamal seems like a nice person, but I am so very much over his sleeping bag as clothing aesthetic. It's just not attractive in the least. 

Totally agree. I get fashion as art, but I'm still baffled.  Next thing they'll be trying to tell us those giant fleece snuggies sold on late-night TV are fashion.