S08.E04: The Last of the Starks

[LuvScottishAccents]

3 minutes ago, seawind said:

100%. The double Ds totally forced this, and it sucks big time. I'm so intensely disappointed right now I have a huge pit in my stomach. They just blew it. Completely. 😞

No wonder D&D have talked about being off the grid during the finale. They maybe should go now.

[TobinAlbers]

1 minute ago, Yodabeesh said:

Worst. Kept. Secret. Ever.

And now we see why Ned didn't even tell Cat the truth. Too many people knowing and it all goes to hell. He couldn't/wouldn't put her in that position and successfully protected Jon until Sam and BranEyeRaven put it together.

[kellog010]

Every time Dany listens to her advisors it goes to hell. 

[duddley]

I think Jamie was saying that yes, he could've been a good man if it wasn't for Cersie. But she ruined him and now, he had to ruin her. Maybe as an attempt to make amends or maybe to just get the monkey off his back.

[phoenix780]

Um...I'm impressed that this turned out to be as intense as last week's battle with the undead army. I really wish this weren't my late Sunday show, though. Another dragon down, and Missandei (which I bet I spelled wrong). That was a lot. 

Much as I love the show, I can't go with them to a place where I'm rooting for Jon over Dany. I've been rooting for her for years, no amount of talking is going to change that now, and I haven't seen them show me anything to make me waver. In a world with people like Cersei, I think you kinda have to want to rule, otherwise you'll lose it in a second. 

[LittleIggy]

I want that nasty smirk wiped off of Cersei’s face! 😡 That poor dragon ☹️

I wanted Missandei to grab Cersei and jump off with her.

At least poor Ghost has a chance.

Could there be more dragons?

[Affogato]

Jon said good y to ghost. They talked. This is clear. 

[BitterApple]

Did anyone else's breath catch when Arya said she had no intentions of returning to Winterfell? Not that I'm predicting she'll die, but damm, she's not going to see her family again? 

Wouldn't you think Sansa's time with Littlefinger would've made her smarter? Lord Baelish was the master of sitting on information until he could best use it to his advantage. Sansa blabbing Jon's secret two seconds after he told her was not very prudent. Especially when it was clear the Dragon Queen's sanity was hanging by a thread. 

My prediction is on Varys selling Dany out. There's no way Euron just happened upon her fleet. He was definitely tipped off. 

Arya and the Hound, back on the road again? I'm here for it. 

I'm heartbroken for Greyworm. 

[dizzyd]

The cheese factor on this episode was ridiculous. The only thing that made sense to me was Arya turning down Gendry hopefully to kill Cersei while the Hound takes out his brother and completes her list. 

[Stardancer Supreme]

13 minutes ago, WatchrTina said:

At this point the line of people who want to murder Cersie is getting REALY long, but right at this moment I hope Grey Worm gets to do the honors.

Actually, Cersei's death belongs to Sansa.  I'm ready for someone to take Euron out of the game.

[GraceK]

Sansa is a jealous bitch. Seriously this episode made it clear. Love Missendei’s last words. Dracarys motherfuckers!!!!

[Scarlett45]

Just now, TobinAlbers said:

And now we see why Ned didn't even tell Cat the truth. Too many people knowing and it all goes to hell. He couldn't/wouldn't put her in that position and successfully protected Jon until Sam and BranEyeRaven put it together.

Yes- Ned really loved Jon, and considered him his son, with a duty to protect him no matter what. Ned was a good Dad. 

[ShellsandCheese]

2 minutes ago, Lillith said:

Dany has shown hints of Mad Queen and tyrant but this descent seems a bit rushed at this point. 

At least Varys was up front with her, but we know he's gonna die soon.

I'm torn on Sansa. Did she say something out of genuine concern that Dany is not fit (whether that's true or not) or out of spite because she dislikes her? 

No, she really hasn’t. There’s nothing in the lead up that she suggests that she’s mad. Also, Sansa is just spiteful. 

And shouldn’t everyone be worried about Jon going mad? He is after all a Targ. This show. 

[ferjy]

11 minutes ago, ShellsandCheese said:

So who set Dany up? How did Euron know exactly when they’d be headed back to Dragonstone? 

Also, tonight’s episode totally proved that Dany is smart - she knew exactly what would happen when Jon told the Starks about his heritage. Dany deserves better, but strong women must be broken. 

I didn't think she was set up. Cersei would have heard the White Walkers were defeated and was just lying in wait for Dany. What I don't understand is why Dany's team was so ill prepared.

Edited May 6, 2019 by ferjy

[Chaser]

I miss the Jon of S6. 

[bluvelvet]

This isn't out of character for Dany, in the past when she wanted to burn the city she had someone to hold her back and speak reason.  She also fed a man to her Dragons in the past. Forgot which season when she was in Mereen or one of those cities where her plan was to burn it down. Now she has suffered some unbearable losses back to back, she is angry. Maybe if she had time to get over her anger but she is totally torching KL.

Also Cersei is a ******, she invited all those innocents in the keep as protection.

I haven't read the books but since D&D have an idea how it all ends (from what I heard) I assume the characters will end in the same place but have a different journey to get there.  I don't think Dany is going mad Queen, she is angry, hurt and upset. This is war and she is using things at her disposal as anyone would. Her father was burning people for fun is what I understand.

Edited May 6, 2019 by bluvelvet

[sistermagpie]

1 minute ago, Smad said:

Why do D&D hate women so freaking much? This episode was awful to pretty much every female character except Gilly and Cersei. WTF is happening?

Brienne basically got a pity fuck and then dropped like a hot potato and betrayed. Missandei, only woman of color, gets fridged for the nonsense that will be Dany's villain arc while advocating to kill everyone. The Stark girls reaction to the parentage reveal and Sansa snitching to Tyrion. 

Well I'm glad that D&D listened to all the complaints about 'women on top' and doing their best to fix the issue. Very much appreciated. /s

I didn't think she was betrayed at all. I thought Jaime correctly realized that he couldn't hide out in Winterfell with Brienne when Cersei was taking over. He did terrible things for Cersei and he had to try to defeat her. At least that's what I got from it and I thought Brienne was crying because she was afraid for what would happen to him.

I don't completely get what's going on with Sansa (leaving aside any Doylist interpretations about them hating the women characters). Because it seems like she's having a genuine emotional reaction to Dany that's pretty deep and maybe illogical. Like when she said their men didn't fare well in the capitol I thought she really did see this happening again. Ironically Sansa again spilled the beans on something, but this time she thought it was the smarter thing to do, not the honorable. She made the opposite choice.

[enoughcats]

6 minutes ago, bmoore4026 said:

Tyrion, when will you fucking get it?

I expected little, spiny porcupinetyrion to be lying on the sand.  You know Cersei showed rare restraint. 

[Growsonwalls]

1 minute ago, Leroux said:

What is perplexing about this rightful heir to the IT to me is that not for one second did it cross Daenerys mind the idea of asking Jon to rule with her, to make him understand that they will be stronger together as co-rulers. A marriage of equals would be the best but that is obviously not what she wants, she wants him to not ever say a word and act just like her consort. 

Why? 

Why she is so hell-bent on being the only ruler? Jon definitely will let her do all the ruling and only make her consider her most drastic decisions. I am sure she loves him and wants to marry him but she doesn't want to share power with him? 

She should have never asked him to keep his identity a secret just so she can claim the throne alone. That was awfully selfish. 

Dany's whole life has just been too wrapped around the idea that only she is the rightful heir. She just can't course correct. For all her warmth and humanity she definitely has a Marie Antoinette side to her.

[WatchrTina]

7 minutes ago, seawind said:

I am so profoundly disappointed in the show, I can't even process what I'm feeling right now. Everything that happened the second after Dany flew the dragons DIRECTLY OVER KING'S LANDING IN BROAD DAYLIGHT WHEN THEY KNOW THAT CERSEI HAS WEAPONS THAT FUCKING KILL DRAGONS

Actually they were arriving at Dragonstone, not Kings' Landing and as such that arrow to the dragon took me completely by surprise.  Dragonstone is Dany's home turf. She felt safe there.  So I give the show credit for shocking me by having Euron laying in wait with those dragon-sized cross-bows now mounted on his ships.

[Clanstarling]

9 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

And can I say, Goddamn you, Jaime, for hurting our sweet Brienne. 

When Missandei said "Dracarys" before she was executed, was that her pledging her final loyalty to Dany, or telling Dany to burn the city to the ground?

I'm thinking it was both.

2 minutes ago, Lillith said:

Poor Brienne, but I'm glad both she and Jaime got to be with someone who loved them. I think he's off on an atonement suicide mission. He doesn't feel he deserves better.

Yes, I've thought all along that Jaimie would be the one to kill Cersei. He hates himself, and he hates what he does for her - and the love he has for her is twisted up with hatred. And the love he feels for Brianne, and the experience of love w/o that twisted up feeling, has put his relationship with Cersei, and the things he's done for her, in stark relief.

[LittleIggy]

14 minutes ago, WatchrTina said:

At this point the line of people who want to murder Cersie is getting REALY long, but right at this moment I hope Grey Worm gets to do the honors.

I’m in that line.

[MissLucas]

2 minutes ago, dbell1 said:

Jon, you gave away Ghost. You're an idiot. Leaving him at Winterfell would have been kinder.

I dunno - I think he'll have more fun with Tormund in a day than he ever had with Jon. Hell, that's a spin-off I'd watch: Tormund and Diefenbaker Ghost roaming the North!

[ShellsandCheese]

2 minutes ago, Leroux said:

What is perplexing about this rightful heir to the IT to me is that not for one second did it cross Daenerys mind the idea of asking Jon to rule with her, to make him understand that they will be stronger together as co-rulers. A marriage of equals would be the best but that is obviously not what she wants, she wants him to not ever say a word and act just like her consort. 

Why? 

Why she is so hell-bent on being the only ruler? Jon definitely will let her do all the ruling and only make her consider her most drastic decisions. I am sure she loves him and wants to marry him but she doesn't want to share power with him? 

She should have never asked him to keep his identity a secret just so she can claim the throne alone. That was awfully selfish. 

Because it makes sense and doesn’t serve the Dany is Mad nonsense that it appears we are about to get in the final two episodes of an eight year series. 

[ferjy]

1 minute ago, Stardancer Supreme said:

Actually, Cersei's death belongs to Sansa.  I'm ready for someone to take Euron out of the game.

They're really making us hate him so we'll really cheer on his demise.

[SoWindsor]

The bad:

1. Brienne and Jamie sleeping together

2. Rhagel dying

3. Jon telling his sisters 

4. Them not showing us tell his sisters 

5. Drogon not setting fire to the ships after his brother was killed

6. Drogon not responding to missendei’s dracarys and burning stuff

7. Varys turning on Dany

8. Arya not realizing she can still be with Gendy even if she’s not a lady 

The good: 

1. It’s game of thrones 

[Drogo]

5 minutes ago, bluvelvet said:

Euron must know the kid isn't his

Otherwise, how would Tyrion have known? 

Does Euron think Cersei posted her ultrasound photo on her Instagram story?

[Sakura12]

Tyrion is definitely not as clever as he think he is, if he keep on believing his sister has a heart. I know they talk about Dany being mad, Cersei is worse. At this point I don't care if Dany goes Mad Queen, Cersei needs to be taken out even Dany dies doing it. 

I guess Missandei was telling Dany to burn it to the ground. She doesn't care this isn't her land. Maybe Dany should just go back to Essos and be their Queen, she was well on her way. That was more her home than Westeros. 

Jon was dumb to think anyone in the North would keep that secret. Especially Sansa who only cares about the North. Of course she'd run and tell anyone she could. 

They are really saving their money by getting rid of Ghost and Rhaegel. Dany better hide Drogon or he's going to die too. 

[Growsonwalls]

Actually come to think of it Dany's more like Mary Queen of Scots. Mary Queen of Scots also went to her death convinced she was the rightful heir. Mary Queen of Scots was beloved by people who knew her. But she was felled by the fact that she would not give up her claim to the throne (and Elizabeth I was a lot more humane than Cersei which ... isn't saying much, but still). 

Edited May 6, 2019 by Growsonwalls

[shireenbamfatheon]

In 8x02 Tyrion told Jaime that he always knew what Cersei was but he loved her anyway. Tyrion is doing the exact same thing with Daenerys. Sansa, Tyrion, Varys, Arya, Bran, Sam and even Jon to some degree can all see it, but Tyrion and Jon are closing their eyes to the truth. And thousands of innocent people will suffer for it. 

[mjc570]

I love this show, but this episode was so boring and poorly written as to be almost unwatchable.  We don't get to see Sansa or Arya's reactions to Jon's parentage announcement; Jon doesn't even say good-by to Ghost (just rehomes him), it didn't occur to Daenerys to circle around Euron's fleet and burn the ships from the rear (all the dragon killer harpoons were facing front).  Bron's brief appearance was a huge let down.  All of these supposedly clever people just act so stupidly.  Tyrion doesn't understand his sister AT ALL. 

When Daenerys asks the perfectly reasonable question about how long the army needs to recover, Sansa could have actually answered ( a week, 2 weeks, whatever)  instead of just punting to some indefinite time.  No wonder Daenerys didn't listen to her perfectly reasonable suggestion.

I could go on with so much I disliked, which really arising from my high expectations.  I just hate that so much time is wasted (like the extended feasting) when there are only a few episodes left.  I did like a few things - Arya/Hound road trip, Bron not breaking Tyrion's nose. 

[Scarlett45]

6 minutes ago, phoenix780 said:

Um...I'm impressed that this turned out to be as intense as last week's battle with the undead army. I really wish this weren't my late Sunday show, though. Another dragon down, and Missandei (which I bet I spelled wrong). That was a lot. 

Much as I love the show, I can't go with them to a place where I'm rooting for Jon over Dany. I've been rooting for her for years, no amount of talking is going to change that now, and I haven't seen them show me anything to make me waver. In a world with people like Cersei, I think you kinda have to want to rule, otherwise you'll lose it in a second. 

I am fine with Dany ruling. I do think they would be stronger TOGETHER, I think Jon has shown he has more administrative skills. And heirs are a good thing. All of this turning against Dany feels like a plot device. I think Ayra was being more fair to her while Sansa still has so much PTSD from her time in the south she is projecting a lot of things onto Dany that have nothing to do with Dany. 

[Advance35]

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Tyrion and Sansa are going to be a thing. Sansa was jealous when Dany complimented Tyrion’s cleverness. We got a reminder this episode that Tyrion hasn’t been with a woman in years (after a previous comment to Jaime about having given up whoremongering). For the first time in quite a while, they addressed each other by their names. And Sansa tattled to Tyrion something like five minutes after she promised Jon she’d never tell a soul.

I love Sansa, she's a spoiled, icey, haughty little snit (frequently) but I love the girl anyway.  And I am totally shipping her and Tyrion (a little ashamed).  When Dany awarded Gendry storms end and the look Tyrion and Sansa shared.   ST does good work with PD.  Also Tyrion coming to see Sansa before leaving and trying to get through to her about Dany.   He doesn't want Sansa making powerful enemies.   

Tyrion is well aware of Sansa's MANY faults but seems very drawn to her anyway.  I don't know if they are in anyway endgame but if the writers went there, I would totally buy it.  Though you know Sansa is going to be HIGH maintenance lol.

Sansa knew what she was doing when she told Tyrion "the secret."  She's hoping she knocked over just the right domino to eventually topple Dany.

All that said, I thought Sansa had a point about the soldiers needing rest after "The Great War."  And that's why she's been so adverse to Jon's love for Dany, she knows Dany's word will be law for Jon no matter what she says.  Jon made it very clear Sansa was to shut up in the war planning meeting.

I have know doubt some have a renewed hatred for Sansa but I'm living for the drama she brings.

[JennyMominFL]

3 minutes ago, ShellsandCheese said:

No, she really hasn’t. There’s nothing in the lead up that she suggests that she’s mad. Also, Sansa is just spiteful. 

And shouldn’t everyone be worried about Jon going mad? He is after all a Targ. This show. 

Not mad... just ruthess

[Stardancer Supreme]

5 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

Did anyone else's breath catch when Arya said she had no intentions of returning to Winterfell? Not that I'm predicting she'll die, but damm, she's not going to see her family again? 

Wouldn't you think Sansa's time with Littlefinger would've made her smarter? Lord Baelish was the master of sitting on information until he could best use it to his advantage. Sansa blabbing Jon's secret two seconds after he told her was not very prudent. Especially when it was clear the Dragon Queen's sanity was hanging by a thread. 

My prediction is on Varys selling Dany out. There's no way Euron just happened upon her fleet. He was definitely tipped off. 

Arya and the Hound, back on the road again? I'm here for it. 

I'm heartbroken for Greyworm. 

I'm hopeful that she may go to Storm's End to be with Gendry...

[Lillith]

1 minute ago, Drogo said:

Otherwise, how would Tyrion have known? 

Does Euron think Cersei posted her ultrasound photo on her Instagram story?

That was my first thought. I wish they'd given a reaction shot of Euron. Then again his epression only goes between smug asshole or grinning sadist so it's hard to tell anything. 

[dbell1]

I totally forgot to say the opening just broke me. Seeing everyone saying goodbye to the people that died for them, just really gut wrenching. And then the fires, leading to the wake, so well done.

[Drogo]

Sansa's not a little bird anymore, and methinks she wants a Hound in her henhouse. 

"How'd you do it?" "Hounds." *heart eye emoji*

[ShellsandCheese]

2 minutes ago, Growsonwalls said:

Dany's whole life has just been too wrapped around the idea that only she is the rightful heir. She just can't course correct. For all her warmth and humanity she definitely has a Marie Antoinette side to her.

This is a lie. She grew up believing that her brother was the rightful heir to the throne. He sold her to Drogo to help get an army for himself. Dany really didn’t care until after Viserys died and Robert kept sending assasins to try and kill her. 

[Sakura12]

14 minutes ago, seawind said:

I am so profoundly disappointed in the show, I can't even process what I'm feeling right now. Everything that happened the second after Dany flew the dragons DIRECTLY OVER KING'S LANDING IN BROAD DAYLIGHT WHEN THEY KNOW THAT CERSEI HAS WEAPONS THAT FUCKING KILL DRAGONS and everything that happened AFTER THEY SAILED RIGHT UP TO KING'S LANDING IN BROAD DAYLIGHT was a complete waste. There is absolutely NO WAY IN HELL, NOT IN ANY UNIVERSE, that that would have been something that Dany or Tyrion or any of them would have done. This was just the show forcing things in order to kill another dragon and then Missandei, two more things Dany loves, so that we could get the "mad queen Dany." I can't even be sad about Rhaegal and Missandei, because THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE DIED BECAUSE THE WAY THEY CAME UPON THE CAPITAL WAS ASININE.

Show, you did something far, far worse than anything you may have done in The Long Night. You broke my heart. 😞

They weren't going to Kings Landing, they were going to Dragonstone. Euron somehow knew that and was waiting for them. 

[Leroux]

12 minutes ago, ShellsandCheese said:

So who set Dany up? How did Euron know exactly when they’d be headed back to Dragonstone? 

Also, tonight’s episode totally proved that Dany is smart - she knew exactly what would happen when Jon told the Starks about his heritage. Dany deserves better, but strong women must be broken. 

Why would the Starks have to live a lie just so Daenerys can claim the throne?  Why does Daenerys wish for the throne are more important that Jon's family? Jon doesn't even want the throne but this doesn't mean that he has to live the rest of his life pretending to be a bastard just so Daenerys gets the throne. If Daenerys really loves Jon she would never ask this of him. 

It is easy really, Daenerys lets the whole kingdom know that Jon is the rightful heir and they are getting married and ruling together. Jon rules the North and she rules the South. t would make everybody happy. She wants that throne more than she wants Jon, She is asking him to lie and deny his identity just so she can seat in that damned throne.  

[Bryce Lynch]

Sansa is such trash.  When she swore to Jon, I was thinking she's got her fingers crossed.  She is as devious as Cersei, Littlefinger and Ramsay. Arya should have killed her and taken her face back in Season 7.

Why does everyone continually overestimate Cersei's humanity and underestimate her cunning? Especially Tyrion.  Yes, Tyrion, she IS a monster and an extremely dangerous one.  She has proven this over and over.  So what if she loved her children (and has good cheekbones).

Robert Baratheon, Ned Stark, Margeary Tyrell, The High Sparrow, Olena Tyrell,  Ellaria Sand, Tyrion, Daenrys and Jon, and now Tyrion and Dany again.   She is pure evil and she is smarter than you.  Kill her anyway you can, any chance you get, no matter the cost.

Arya and The Hound seem like the only hope for the good guys.

[Bali]

20 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

And can I say, Goddamn you, Jaime, for hurting our sweet Brienne. 

When Missandei said "Dracarys" before she was executed, was that her pledging her final loyalty to Dany, or telling Dany to burn the city to the ground?

I think a little of both

[Lillith]

1 minute ago, mjc570 said:

When Daenerys asks the perfectly reasonable question about how long the army needs to recover, Sansa could have actually answered ( a week, 2 weeks, whatever)  instead of just punting to some indefinite time.  No wonder Daenerys didn't listen to her perfectly reasonable suggestion.

Sansa merely said she's have to confer with the military commanders. Who of course are the experts. I think Dany and Sansa have such antipathy they can't have a reasonable conversation. They both feel antagonistic and there is zero trust between them. 

[Luckylyn]

I keep thinking the point of the show is the end of monarchy and the beginning of democracy. I think no one will have the throne.

Tyrion's solution to have Dany and Jon marry and co-rule is the most peaceful choice, but I guess that would be too easy.   Varys has never been loyal to a person but to the realm.  Tyrion shouldn't be surprised that Varys was capable of turning on Dany.

Dany is right that what Jon wants won't matter.  If enough people want him to rule they will fight regardless of what Jon wants.  I don't know why Dany doesn't suggest marriage but I think she's resistant to co-ruling.  Marrying Jon would help win the support of people who are wary of her.  It's a mistake for her not to try to use Jon's linage and popularity among his people through marriage to solidify her position.

I thought Sansa had a good point about letting the soldiers rest before going after Cersei.  Just because Sansa is resistant to Dany's rule doesn't mean Sansa's advice isn't useful.

I'm annoyed that Dany wasn't better prepared for weapons designed to target dragons.  Cersei having something like that has happened before and of course she'd make more.  I feel like Dany over relies on the dragons and doesn't consider enough their vulnerabilities.

A consistent theme this season is character saying variations on how the bad things had to happened to lead people to where they are now.  Sansa's conversation with Hound was something I was looking forward to.  It's possible things would have been better for her if she escaped with him and it's also possible she would have suffered worse.  What if's are useless. People have to make the best of the current situations as they are now.

Jaime and Brienne made me so happy.  I don't think he's leaving to protect Cersei but to end the conflict by killing her.  I think he said the hateful line because he wants Brienne to think he's siding with Cersei. He wants to avoid Brienne going after Cersei with him.  He's worried Cersei would have Brienne killed.

[Jaded Sapphire]

So Arya, who crumpled faster...The Night King or Gendry?

[LadyChaos]

Im just going to say that I absolutely loved this episode!

That I think everything that Varys said was right.  Now that Sansa knows, she won't stop till Jon is on the throne or the North is free. So the only way for the Kingdom to remain whole is for Jon and Dany to marry, or for Jon to take the throne.

I actually think they set it up nicely, not for Dany to go crazy, but to do something stupid.  The problem is, that if that stupid thing is right in front of thousands of people who've known nothing of her except what Cersei said......it may inflame the 'Mad Queen' propaganda that Cersei is floating. 

Edited May 6, 2019 by LadyChaos

[enoughcats]

4 minutes ago, mjc570 said:

it didn't occur to Daenerys to circle around Euron's fleet and burn the ships from the rear (all the dragon killer harpoons were facing front)

That's sure the way the harpoons looked, and the sails weren't set for maneuvering.

[seawind]

Oh yeah, WHAT THE FUCK WITH GHOST, SHOW??? I could accept you sending Ghost north, but he whimpers at Jon and you have Jon just frown at him? What in the ever-loving fuck was that? And you mean to tell me that everybody at Winterfell had time to clean up that absolute mountain of bodies in front of the castle and make all these perfectly neat funeral pyres, but nobody had 5 fucking seconds to wash the blood off of Ghost?

The hell with you.

[Conan Troutman]

6 minutes ago, SallyAlbright said:

I never thought I'd be so disappointed by this show. The descent into cartoonish "Mad Queen" territory for Daenerys does not really feel earned, nor do I buy into the idea that Jon wouldn't want revenge under the same circumstances. This idea that she is too strong for him to rule together but that somehow makes him the better leader seems a little confusing and the whole thing reeks of "Telling" not "Showing" for me. 

Dany didn't really work for me this episode either. She's hellbent on rushing to KL ASAP, when Sansa clearly has a point - all of the armies need some rest and reinforcements. Cersei isn't going to go anywhere, so take a week or two and then go at it. 

But it isn't really unearned, they've hinted at this stuff for seasons now - at least it doesn't come out of left field. But it did feel a bit rushed, it just should've been more gradual. There was plenty enough stuff in this episode for two regular sized ones, maybe that would've given them more time. 

3 minutes ago, ShellsandCheese said:

So who set Dany up? How did Euron know exactly when they’d be headed back to Dragonstone?

A fleet shouldn't be too hard to find and it's not like he has anywhere else to go, so they can just camp out there, wait for signals from their scouts and then get in position. 

The only problem I have is that they've now gone twice to the Euron surprise attack well. But I guess there just isn't any other way he can be used if not for these kinds of attack. 

2 minutes ago, bluvelvet said:

I don't even know what to think right now..woah!!

But Kings Landing is going to burn based on the look of Dany's face..

KL is going to burn no matter what, that was pretty much inevitable. The only question has always been, who's going to light it up? Cersei or Dany? Looks like the answer could be both.