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  1. TobinAlbers

    The Spoiler Collection

    Temporary amnesia where he's 'good' Thomas again so he can insinuate himself into everyone's lives so that he's revealed to still be evil AF.
  2. If there is a trial, I want him to show up everyday shirtless. 😂 I bet they'll go for irony and have him buttoned up if he's ever sent to prison. (I know, I know, Thomas won't go to the klink).
  3. One of my biggest pet peeves is how soaps will have supposedly smart ruthless people act dumb. No way in the world Bill didn’t have a paternity test done on Wyatt. And I get the show feels like the audience should know that he did that, but the audience wants Bill to, ya know, actually state it. Definitely think a story about Wyatt’s paternity or heck his parentage could be riveting. I could totally see a mentally unbalanced Quinn steal/kidnap a baby because she did actually have the abortion (or miscarried) but had a breakdown and wanted her baby ‘back’. So she stole one and rationalized she would love him better than his own parents and so it would all be okay. If the show wants to give Quinn a meaty story again, trying to explain how she kidnapped/took/saved Wyatt from another family would be it. And it’d allow the ushering in of his biological family and some fresh blood on the show. It’s too bad he slept with Steffy because making Wyatt a Marone (Nick’s son) would keep him relevant.
  4. TobinAlbers

    Getting To Genoa You : Y&R Daily Chat

    I was trying to be respectful of the dead. 😂 Come to think of it, Kyle and Theo had a similar ‘bonding’ experience although their partier survived. Seems like these kind of problems run in the family with the Abbott men.
  5. TobinAlbers

    Getting To Genoa You : Y&R Daily Chat

    Catching up on this week’s shows and I gotta say- I want more Devon/Adam talks. I know Devon could in large part be wasting his breath and Adam has nothing to offer Devon except ruthless business tactics, but it was nice to see Adam interact with someone outside his inner circle and maybe eventually something Devon says could stave off Adam crossing another line in his vendetta against Victor and Co. Speaking of Victor...I’m TeamAdam in that feud. Yeah, Adam has pulled some rank crap and keeps doing it and much of his backstory retconned into a pretzel to accommodate his story motivations but his reaction to the Newmans is not wholly unwarranted. Victor especially is a master emotional and psychological abuser and manipulator and has in great part contributed to Adam’s pathology. He’s not completely to blame but if Victor has left him alone, Adam would probably be your run of the mill scummy businessman. 😂 God bless Jack for reaching out to Victor about Adam. As much as I love their relationship, Adam really doesn't deserve Jack’s loyalty for what he did to Ashley alone, but Adam did help Jack with that dead socialite problem during his drug addiction so that bond apparently continues to carry deep.
  6. A tale of two Adam’s? I could dig it 😂 One of the replies did make the good pint that MG actually seems like a good fit for an adult Connor.
  7. TobinAlbers

    The Spoiler Collection

    If it’s a tragedy that affects both the Forresters and Logans how about both Thomas and Hope go over the cliff and are missing and presumed dead only it was all a plot and Thomas faked both their deaths so that no one will be looking for them and Thomas then has an injured Hope all to himself? Or worse she has amnesia and well...Captive Cabin 2.0. Then again this show has kept whopper secrets like Aly’s death so having Hope ‘die’ could be on the table. She could become the new Taylor coming back from the dead. KKL has never had to play a Brooke grieving the loss of one of her children; Liam would become a single dad; Flo would be the replacement Logan. AMC offed Maria Santos mere months after the got her baby back and reunited with Edmund. Woman fell out the bottom of a crashed plane plummeting into the rapid falls below. Soaps can be cruel. It was gut wrenching but you better believe you were watching to see how Edmund would fare in the aftermath and waiting for Maria to return- which happened years later.
  8. The only places I can think of would be Thomas/Ridge's old spiral staircase loft (which is a no), Maya and Rick's bathtub in the center of the living room apartment (another no), Wyatt moving out of the beach house to let them have it (possible). It'd be nice if they gave them something akin to Katie's new house. That could be possible if she and Will move back in with Bill upon marriage #3. I get why Liam gave up Cliff House but damn it's a beautiful property and set and I hate Steffy got awarded it. She could've bought her own place.
  9. I did chortle that the hotel found Hope’s phone and sent a messenger with it to FC, but that packet of drugs that Thomas stuck in a drawer wasn’t mentioned. Me thinks those high end hotels have seen it all and know how to be discreet when it comes to the things they find left behind at hotels by the rich and famous. I’ve got no problem with Liam being relieved that Hope didn’t do the nasty with Thomas. Rather than it be about possession issues I lean towards it being that Liam - or really anyone- wouldn’t want someone he loved in a vulnerable state to have been been so intimately violated under false pretenses by a creep like Thomas. Okay, and yes, there’s no need to worry about an unexpected Thomas spawn pregnancy to complicate things. Hope lost her mind when Liam confessed to his drugged night with Steffy. She didn’t accept it as much as let the words leave her stunned to the point she’s was ripe to being open to accept Thomas’s proposal because if Liam had ‘moved on’ then she should too- which was exactly Thomas’s intention. Wyatt, maybe? Bill during Still Night Standgate until the story had him cool it.
  10. Hope needs to pull a Tony Stark and say 'Screw it, I'm Iron Man my baby was stolen and given to Steffy Forrester and let the chips fall where they may.' Forget the press and hiding crap. This is the dumb ass excuse because they're too cheap to get a courtroom set for a trial and hire extras so that in show they have an excuse to cover up a litany of crimes in this family and committed by these families. The myriad of marriages between Brooke/Eric/Ridge/Nick/Thorne and Liam/Steffy/Hope/Wyatt/Thomas already have the people reading the tabloids and social media over this family and their ish. HTH are they going to explain Hope suddenly having a baby again, Liam leaving Steffy, and Steffy's Phoebe going mysteriously missing? The truth works to their advantage than rumors of Hope 'stealing' Liam back from Steffy by adopting her own baby and Steffy returning her kid because she couldn't handle having more than one kid. The only tainted names in this are Hamilton, Taylor and Buckingham, Dr. Wayne Shady. Oh, what I wouldn't give for a digital series of the Forrester and Spencer Interns dishing the scoop back and forth and 'real world' commentary on all the crap they're witnessing.
  11. TobinAlbers

    The Spoiler Collection

    If written in character, Bill sure as the sun would try to take Thomas out. But I suspect that the show wants Thomas to stay on for a while so he’ll have plot armor for a while. Also Bill can’t do anything too intentionally heinous. Tossing Ridge out helicopter wasn’t a murder attempt per se, but Bill wanting Ridge to be taught a lesson which....yeah doesn’t make sense, LOL. The other thing Bill would consider is Thomas is Steffy’s brother and like it or not, Douglas’ father. He relented on sending Taylor to prison for Steffy so he may be held back on going off on Thomas unless Douglas clued him in on Thomas’ threatening him and being mean to him. That could be the tipping point where all bets would be off because at that point Thomas would have no redeeming factors and have threatened both Beth and Douglas. He’d have to get got no question at that point. I do expect Justin to get his revenge on Thomas but have to go on the run from the law with Bill tearfully sending him away into hiding until things cool down. It’s just the way this show rolls by having the non-contract player take the fall. It’s times like this I miss Stephanie and seeing how she’d deal with her grandchildren.
  12. TobinAlbers

    The Spoiler Collection

    Quinn was front row center at both Lope wedding ceremonies last year. I don’t care if she was Eric’s plus one, given her history with both the bride and groom you’d think she’d have graciously excused herself to go catch up on jewelry designs over at Forrester. But nope. But that brings up a good issue for Quinn and Eric- Eric has no use for Liam but Hope he considers family. Quinn being sympathetic to Flo should cause some consternation but Eric forgave Quinn for her affair with Ridge and the crap she did to Pam so maybe he’s too old to give a damn. Quinn doesn’t give a s#$& about what happens to Liam or his pain and I can totally see herself looking at Flo and seeing herself and encouraging Wyatt to show forgiving unconditional love towards her the way Eric did to Quinn and stay with her despite what she did to Lope. Her rationalization would be why should Wyatt lose who he loves to make Lope happy as everything’s ‘worked out’ Beth is back with Lope and Flo is remorseful. She’d even try to play that if it weren’t for Flo, Beth could’ve been sold to a random couple instead of Steffy and so Flo actually ‘helped’ save Beth from a worse fate. Basically she’d use her old MO whenever she got caught for her crap against Hope or Liam of ‘no permanent harm, no foul’. Quinn’s open pathological hatred towards Liam may have been usurped by the desire to keep her access to Eric’s peen, and it seems that she’s finally directing her anger at her son’s treatment rightfully and solely at Bill, but a leopard doesn’t change her spots - if Quinn was written true to character, if Liam gets in the way of something for Wyatt, Quinn’s old habits would/should come out. You don’t go from the intense hatred to ‘obsessive love’ like she did and that all just go away. Although it seems the intense Liam hatred has been transferred to Thomas so she’ll probably just sit back and internally enjoy the show of Thomas making Liam’s life hell a part of her silently rooting him on. I’ve always found it interesting that Quinn never really held Hope or Steffy accountable for using her son in their manipulation of Liam and never set her sights on hurting them. They were always interchangeable and what they wanted didn’t really matter as it was always what did Wyatt want and that Liam was the ‘problem’ to take out by any means necessary. If Bill didn’t make Quinn disappear for kidnapping and raping Liam, he’s gonna be made impotent so that he can’t really do crap to Thomas over Beth. I think they’ll let Justin do the honor of anything that purposefully happens to Thomas to keep Bill’s hands clean. Although I’d love it more if Hope was the one who took out Thomas. Or hell, let Deacon do it for his little girl and granddaughter. A good twist would be if Deacon knows someone who knows Vinnie the drug dealer (birds of a prison feather) and arranged it with him to plant drugs on Thomas to give him jail time or go whole hog to arrange an accidental overdose. If Thomas ends up in prison, Deacon’s there to meet him. If Thomas dies, we get a call of Vinnie calling Deacon to tell him the deed is is done.
  13. I think because there needs to be an authenticated legal trail of the documentation of the crime as well as the proven legalization of the identification of the child in question as well as her parents. Even though we know the adoption was illegal, the paperwork is in the system is considered ‘legal’ at the moment. Also there is a death certificate for Baby Girl Elizabeth Spencer in the system a well. In a paternity case where the father listed on the birth certificate is biologically proven not o be the father, he cant’t then just not pay child support as his name is still on the official birth certificate and in the eyes of the law he’s still financially responsible for that child. He has to go through the legal process of getting his name removed and that can become complicated if the biological father hasn’t been identified because courts can be loath to ‘bastardize’ a child. Now this is from my 80s TV movie of the week degree so times may have changed. 😉 All this is to say that while the adoption is illegal, the law has to confirm the crime committed, the timeline, the perpetrators, the clueless accessories (Taylor, Steffy, the doctor and hospital used on the birth certificate as cover in Las Vegas) the correct victims (nameless mother of the actual stillborn child is also a victim in this and will have to be located) and have it properly investigated. Once all that happens the adopted will obviously be considered invalidated and the invalid documentation thrown out to be replaced with the correct birth certificate for Beth.
  14. TobinAlbers

    The Spoiler Collection

    Uh, Bell and Co. thought Liam having 2 kids inside of a year with two different women was a great idea. They also thought this baby switch storyline was something viewers would want to see so we already know what they’re capable of in terms of bad story twists. The fact they had Liam and Steffy actually do the deed and made it unequivocal to the audience means they wanted the option of another Steam pregnancy on the table to be an obstacle to Lope’s happily ever after so, yeah, totally think they’d go through with it for short term buzz and ratings rather than looking bigger picture at how this insistent focus on Lope vs Steam has made the show less enjoyable. Especially after SC has been working his butt off trying to mediate fan reaction via interviews and on twitter. I think Thomas will try to kill Liam but may hurt someone else instead. It’d be some kind of craziness if Thomas tried to kill Liam and hurt Steffy instead causing her to miscarry (that is if she’s indeed pregnant). Thomas would’ve undone the baby he helped to create!
  15. Douglas says ‘Leggo my Emmy, Baby Beth. You can get one next year.’ Speaking of the Emmys, Douglas is gonna have a bigger field to beat as they’ve combine younger actor/actress into one category.
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