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  1. sistermagpie

    S02.E06: Episode 6

    The one thing I find really fascinating about the Brian storyline is watching Nancy project logic and motives onto the kid. She came up with a version of events where Brian is a sweet boy who had only the best of intentions at all times, wanting to confess, wanting to save the boy and easily finds ways to fit it onto him, even though it seems like underneath she's most terrified of him. Not that I blame her. The kid doesn't ever NOT look like he's auditioning for The Omen.
  2. sistermagpie

    S07.E13: Here's Where We Get Off

    That was my reaction to it too. I was glad they made that choice. It would have been a shame to keep it to the original year. I just kept revising the timeline in my head, pretending that whenever it was now, Piper went in there X months before. In a way it's almost a comment on how time must work differently in prison.
  3. sistermagpie

    S02.E03: Episode 3

    I don't get the impression they hate each other, but they're currently in a shaky place as a team. They just went through a lot of serious conflict. I thought the Aristotle moment was funny and not just everyone thinking he was stupid. It was more like Wendy was amused because she knew how much this wasn't something Tench would relate to, but then what the guy was saying was very practical and legitimate so Tench had to eat a little crow. With Barney I didn't think Holden's sour faces were about Barney, they were about his disappointment with the guy they were interviewing. Like if Barney wanted to try to squeeze some blood out of this stone he could go ahead but Holden knew better. (Holden doesn't know better.)
  4. sistermagpie

    S02.E02: Episode 2

    If you're interested, here's the real Kevin giving a victim impact statement at BTK's sentencing in 2005. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnUCRS9DHKQ&feature=youtu.be
  5. sistermagpie

    Mad Men

    But I don't get why it's a tease since it's an episode that takes place when the concert isn't happening in a place that's just in the general area and ends with Roger saying good-bye to his daughter he barely spent time with outside of that episode, so why would her being there draw him to Woodstock? He can get stoned and laid in his hotel room. Wasn't that part of the point, that the house had nothing to do with Don? Megan chose the place where she wanted to live and there was no place for Don there. I feel like Don might have even had a line to that effect (beach vs. canyons), but I can't remember where or when or what it was so I might be making it up. But still, I think they can put Megan the actress in the canyons and intentionally bring to mind the future Manson murders without having Megan actually run into any of them as part of a story or having Megan's reactions be a focus. Right, Megan's only in the one episode months post-murders and she's getting officially divorced in it. In fact, with these locations specifically it seems more like the point was the opposite. The fact that a NYC-based cult group might naturally settle in the Woodstock area is a handy way to invoke Woodstock to underline the generational conflict in that episode that ends with Roger flailing around in the mud. Likewise Megan moving to a house in a canyon is a better symbolic fit with what the move means for their marriage. It's specifically not Don's idyllic California beach. In fact, it's the part associated with brutal endings. But why change the whole timeline structure that ends with the moon landing just to have a reference to Woodstock because the audience knows about it? A lot of the obvious themes to use these events for were already used in earlier episodes like Mystery Date, Tea Leaves and The Monolith.
  6. sistermagpie

    Mad Men

    It didn't come up in any Megan scenes that I remember, but there was a mention of it in the last ep at the retreat place where Don was, where the woman said he wouldn't be able to hitchhike because nobody would do that thanks to Manson. And there's a scene where Harry is telling Meredith that he's going to California and she tells him to "watch out for those Manson brothers!" LOL. So I took it as just the show establishing that we were now 8 months or so after the murders and this was now a post-Manson world with all that that meant. Iirc, Megan's only in one or two eps post-Manson anyway. Maybe only New Business, when she's focused on her separation from Don and Harry's proposition. Megan's pretty over by the time we pick up months after the murders. Sally actually seems like she wouldn't want to take off with friends to go to Woodstock to me. I'd buy it if she did, but it didn't seem weird to me that she wouldn't. Seems like Roger would be bored out of his skull there. I do think Weiner probably did know he was confounding expectations avoiding something like Woodstock but since he's mostly writing about a crowd too old to be there, it seems like it would take more contortions to get most of the characters there than not.
  7. sistermagpie

    Mad Men

    To be fair, the show didn't skip the Manson murders, the characters mentioned it just this way, as something everyone at the time was talking about. None of them had anything personally to do with any of it besides Megan living in a nearby canyon where lots of people looked like Manson, but it was affecting things in a practical way in California, according to a woman at that retreat. The only connection Megan had to Sharon Tate was wearing the same tee-shirt because MW wanted Megan to be wearing something political. I don't remember any mention of Woodstock at all--none of the characters went or had much reason to be anywhere near it (I mean, the actual concert--they lived relatively close to the actual place and I got the impression Margaret's commune wasn't too far) and it happened in between seasons so it made sense to me there was no mention of it. The only real foreshadowing of the Manson murders I thought was really there was when Megan first brought Megan to her house and assured him the coyote that sounded like it was right under the window was far away because the sound was weird out there. I thought that was an obvious intentional echo of the beginning of Helter Skelter. But I took that as a foreshadowing the same way Joan's bloody dress in GWIAAA was a foreshadowing of the Kennedy assassination--a creepily effective sign of doom, but not one that's specifically tied to the characters. I really liked that reference.
  8. sistermagpie

    S07.E13: Here's Where We Get Off

    Absolutely, Mad Men would still be on in Piper's timeline, but the action of S6 is pretty obviously referencing the world situation now with ICE raids in full swing, mass trials for children etc. and Red's wouldn't be referring to Russians leaking things in 2015.
  9. sistermagpie

    Mad Men

    I honestly think she was right on. Maybe not about everything, but everything about the way Megan was when it came to acting just always seemed to sum up what Marie was saying. She had an artistic soul but she wasn't an artist. She wasn't driven in the way she needed to be, she didn't really have something she wanted to say or do. She just wanted to be the beautiful ballerina people clapped for on stage. That sounds really shallow and dismissive but I don't really mean it to be. I think a lot of people think that's what wanting to be an actress is. In fact, I always remember an interview I read with Justin Theroux about Mulholland Drive and he said one of his favorite lines was when Diane says that she won a jitterbug contest and that "sort of led to acting...well, wanting to act." He thought that just summed up so many people. First because you have to unpack exactly how a jitterbug contest would lead to acting. But then more importantly it's the distinction between acting and wanting to act. Even someone who does have that inner direction can get screwed up, but I feel like when it came to acting Megan was just completely vulnerable to outside feedback. It wasn't so much that she wasn't willing to try hard, it was that what she did when she tried wasn't very efficient or healthy for her.
  10. sistermagpie

    Mad Men

    I wasn't really thinking of that kind of pressure. I meant more a longterm thing. The Heinz dinner is exactly the kind of thing she's good at--this is the person who won Don's heart with that milkshake incident. But looking at the patterns of her life on the show it seems like a lot of things come easy to her, but she doesn't have much staying power when things aren't going well. To be fair, we don't see Megan in any situation she really needs to stick with so it's not like she's ever letting people down by giving up on anything that I can remember. But by the same token we can't point to anything that shows her doing that either. Where as I think we do see other characters doing that in varying degrees.
  11. sistermagpie

    S07.E13: Here's Where We Get Off

    Oh yeah, it was blatantly fake. In the first season Piper was telling Larry not to watch Mad Men without her, clearly talking about a show that's still on. Then this season we're clearly dealing with 2019 and Red's making jokes about Russians leaking things despite having been in prison for years... They just embraced a science fiction bending of time.
  12. sistermagpie

    Season 4 Discussion

    Ah! Okay, I thought that was it from that line but then I wasn't sure because I couldn't imagine her actually spending a lot of money for any reason. LOL. But this is one thing that would inspire her to spend money.
  13. sistermagpie

    Season 4 Discussion

    I feel like I missed something with the Cathy storyline. So it seemed like Mrs. C pretended to be a super rich woman who was going to spend tons of money on the condition that the store fired the harasser. But what happen when she disappears again? Won't the store quickly realize she doesn't exist and potentially hire the guy back? Is it just assumed that once he's gone they wouldn't bother and he wouldn't come back to try for another job? Or did I just totally not follow some part of it?
  14. sistermagpie

    S07.E13: Here's Where We Get Off

    Totally missed that! That would also explain why Maria would have it with her, which I guess she did. Thanks!
  15. sistermagpie

    S07.E13: Here's Where We Get Off

    I don't think Gloria's book had anything to do with the book Maria was reading. It was a standard book for young Spanish-speaking children so was in both houses and both women would get to read it to their baby daughter and granddaughter. I thought the show's focus on current issues was more natural and organic than ever this season, especially the way they could just use actual earlier #metoo storylines for Caputo. It also seemed a natural fit for the women working in the detention facility to find meaning in helping the other women. I just thought all the themes and ideas gelled in this season the way they haven't in years. The tone mixing (tragedy and comedy) worked really well for me too. I thought it was also ray of hope because that little girl was a sort of callback to Taystee who was also larger than life as a kid and tried to catch the attention of potential parents but never got picked for adoption. This girl would have support Taystee didn't. She got parents who want to raise her rather than a sociopath drug dealer who saw a potential worker. I definitely thought Piper chose Alex in the end, though whether she was actually going to be a lawyer wasn't clear and probably didn't matter. Their love story didn't do anything for me, but I couldn't see her lasting with Zelda very long at all. She was just too perfect. As for Larry's speech, I thought he was right about her, but at the same time that wasn't all there was to her. That is, whatever reasons Piper made her choices, her choices were still her life and the relationships she chose were still relationships that had meaning. Though it was a shame she didn't seem to have many times in the end to anybody else. She did stay in her bubble in a lot of ways. Really glad they didn't have her write a book--but the Judy King memoir was a great meta joke about it.
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