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  1. WatchrTina

    S01.E01: Sassenach

    Luckily Claire is wearing nice, serviceable shoes --brogans -- that haven't changed much over the years. This below is from Wikipedia: So while the constructions of Claire's shoes might have revealed some anachronistic hints to their origin to someone knowledgeable who looked at them closely, they would probably just look like normal shoes to everyone else.
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    Gentleman Jack

    That actually freaked me out. I presume they didn't understand how contagious measles were (or that they can kill children) -- otherwise having an infant anywhere near a child with measles is just horrid neglect.
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    Gentleman Jack

    I enjoyed reading this comment in light of the last scene of the show, when the newly "married" couple squabble cheerfully as equals. I agree at the beginning of the show it was difficult to tell if Anne sincerely cared about Ann or was just being predatory. But by the end of the series I feel like Ann had come into herself, given herself in marriage freely to Anne but with the understanding that they would be equals. Ann's money will always give her a bit of power over Anne, even with Anne's more forceful personality. I presume that one of the things that happened immediately post-wedding was that Ann funded the work needed to finish sinking the coal-mining pit and when that happened I hope that those nefarious coal-thieves received their just reward. Here's the thing I don't get . . . why was the story-line about the evil father (the one that got killed and fed to the pigs) even IN this show? It was so random. The only connection between that family and Anne was that they were her tenants. We heard more about them than we did about her own sister (and what a waste of Gemma Whelan THAT was.) I just found that odd. And in the end it wasn't even settled. The last thing we heard from that quarter was that one man discovering that the story of the the evil father's brother writing the family to say his evil brother had gone off to America could not be true, since the brother cannot write. So that man has to be suspicious but . . . so what? He worked for Anne, right? And he knew the missing father was a miserable wretch. Absent any evidence of foul play nothing is going to come of his being aware that the son lied. Or will he ask questions and spread the word that something is "not right" with regard to the father's disappearance, casting a pall over the family's reputation (and by extension on Anne's reputation.) I can't see that happening but, we'll never know. So it all just seemed so . . . pointless. I guess it's purpose was to shed light on the plight of the regular folks and the misfortunes they regularly encountered as a kind of counter-point to "struggles" of two wealthy, independent ladies seeking happiness in a world that just wants them to marry and make babies and be subservient to their husbands.
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    The Spanish Princess

    Oh yeah. She's doomed. (And I say that assuming that she and her pregnancy are fictional aspects of the show so that's speculation, not a spoiler.) Ditto! I had to pause several times to go read the entries about various people to re-acquaint myself with the whole convoluted story of the War of the Roses -- a War brought to an "end" by the marriage of the White and Red roses to form the House of Tudor. It really is depressing to see (in this series) how the marriage of Henry VII and Elizabeth of York -- the marriage meant to end the war -- was unsuccessful in really bringing a lasting peace to the land. I sort of love the notion that a curse laid down by Elizabeth Woodville all those years ago is still, inadvertently, acting on her own daughter and grandchildren. That's a great fictional theory to explain all the tragedies that dogged the house of Tudor. But . . . damn. Those Plantagenet descendants really just could NOT catch a break.
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    The Spanish Princess

    So I just got to the episode where the King finally ends his staring-in-the-fire-and-not-bathing form of grieving and moves on instead to the suddenly-announcing-he-is-going-to-marry-his-former-daughter-in-law form of grieving. Wait, what? I know we're supposed to treat history as a spoiler if that history occurred after the events depicted in the episode but . . . wait, WHAT?
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    S08.E06: The Iron Throne

    I think Jon's somber demeanor speaks to the trauma he's been through. Even if he's sure that he did the right thing in killing Dany he's also devastated at having to do it. He's not over that. He may never get over that. And while he did originally volunteer to join the Night's Watch, this time he is being sent there as a prisoner, under guard. That has to feel different.
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    S08.E06: The Iron Throne

    Yup, I also think it is a shame we did not get a chance to see Gendry fighting alongside the Northern men at the battle at Kings Landing but I feel certain he was there. I can understand that they just did not have time to show his fight scenes, nor to delve into the very mixed emotions he might be feeling after the murder of the Queen who had elevated him to Lordship -- murder at the hands of Jon Snow, one of the band of brothers with whom he went on a deadly mission north of the wall. That reminds me -- don't you wonder what Gendry thought when he saw the Red Woman ride up to Winterfell just before that battle? Poor Gendry -- he keeps having all these big, dramatic moments -- off-camera.
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    S08.00: The Last Watch

    And the Waif and Jacquen Hagar! They both got a free vacation in Spain as well. I LOVE that. But the show-runners missed a major opportunity. They should have had Syrio Forel turn up (Arya's sword master from season one.) I still maintain that Syrio survived. He didn't die on camera so therefore in my head canon he's still out there somewhere, kicking butt and taking names.
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    S08.00: The Last Watch

    No there is no link to the entire table read but the "episode" this thread is about -- the 2-hour documentary "The Last Watch" -- contains more from that table-read than the few seconds shown in the clips above in this thread.
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    S08.00: The Last Watch

    Yeah the Lord of the Rings DVDs have ruined me for this kind of thing. Based on those DVDs I think I'm entitled to an entire hour on just the costumes and another hour on just the props and oh yeah the equestrian team -- they need an hour on the horses and . . . yeah LoTR ruined me for this kind of thing. Still, I'm grateful for what we got. The few people they chose to focus on are clearly stand-ins for all the people they couldn't focus on. I liked the no-nonsense location coordinator who did a good job in a thankless role and I don't care that she said "fuck" every third word given that she spent a good part of her time shouting at Teamsters. I loved learning about that one guy who had one job -- to dress the grounds with fake snow. He worked really hard and sometimes he had to move a ton of snow he had JUST laid down and that pissed him off and I could totally identify with his frustration. (I was delighted he got to go to sunny Spain for that one sequence.) I'm delighted the make-up artist got to have her daughter in the show's final scene since it seems pretty clear she and her husband had not really thought through the family ramifications of winning the bid for the season 8 White Walker / wight makeup. (I think it's pretty clear they never really thought they WOULD win and I give them full marks for pulling it off.) I do think it's a shame that so much of their work never made it on to the screen. Think about all the work they did on the dead in the Winterfell crypt and in the end we barely saw them.
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    S08.E00: The Last Watch

    I completely disagree. I thought it showed great affection by the writers to take the time to spike the table-read scripts with little inside-jokes that the cast would understand and appreciate. As we saw from the show, the table-read is a very emotional event. Character deaths are announced. Epic moments are announced (e.g., Arya's slaying of the Night King.) I thought the writers' spiking the narration with small moments of humor (amid all that death and destruction) was completely appropriate, and judging from what we saw on camera, the cast felt that way as well.
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    S08.E06: The Iron Throne

    Robin Arryn's crazy mother died and his devious step-father (Littlefinger) left, never to return, leaving him to the guidance of the lords of the Erie who -- it would seem -- had a positive effect on him. You saw him glancing to the side to that most senior lord of the Erie (I've forgotten his name) before voting yes to install Bran as King. So I would like to believe that he improved dramatically once he was removed from the influence of his crazy-pants mother and that he's learned the wisdom of listening to advisors who have more experience than him.
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    S08.E00: The Last Watch

    I thought they did a great job including that one script assistant who made the point, early in the documentary, that some of the actors show up for the table-read having read the script first and some do not. It became clear later on that Emilia had read her death scene in advance but Kit had not. That was a brilliant moment to be caught on camera. I'm an even bigger fan of Kit Harrington now. Not only did he seem genuinely upset by that turn of events (learning that Jon kills Dany); and not only did he try to pay that background player who gave him his commemorative jacket; he had to endure over a year of mandated lying to EVERYONE about Jon Snow being dead at the end of season 5. What a difficult position to be put in. Ah well, he ended up with a wife in real life thanks to the show so I guess that seems like a fair swap. I enjoyed that documentary but it was bittersweet. I'm having flashbacks to watching all the "making of" documentaries that came with the extended cut DVDs of the Lord of the Rings Trilogy. I remember LOVING those but also feeling emotionally drained by watching them. Part of me wants to sit down and watch this whole documentary over again and part of me thinks I need to take a break. Sigh. This show was a great ride.
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    S08.E06: The Iron Throne

    Today I'm cheerfully binge-watching Game of Thrones, beginning with the Red Wedding at the end of season 3, through the purple wedding (Joffrey's death) at the beginning of season 4, and now I'm into Dany's taking of Mereen, complete with the crucification of 163 of the citizens in retaliation for the crucified children they used as mile markers during her march to the city. I have to say, re-watching this show -- especially the best episodes (and I think it's fair to say that seasons 3 and 4 were awesome) -- is VERY interesting with the benefit of hind-site. Ruthless Dany was there, all along. It's equally freaky to watch those episode and see Tormund nearly kill Jon when he realizes that Jon is still working for the Night's Watch. Seriously, those who have time to do a complete re-watch are in for a real treat. It's a whole different ride when you know how it ends.
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    S08.E06: The Iron Throne

    Actually I'm quoting RealityCreator above (quoting quotes within posts makes the system go wonky) and I have to disagree with this statement. If Jon had not been a Targaryen and the rightful heir, then Dany might not have gone completely crazy. If Jon had continued to be able to love her, not just as a Queen but has HIS beloved, then maybe, just maybe, she might have held it together at the end -- even in the face of the loss of two dragons, most of her troops, Ser Jorah and Missandei. If Jon had not been the rightful heir, Varys would not have betrayed Dany for the simple reason that there was no other alternative to her. If Dany had not burned the city, Tyrion would not have abandoned her (though she still might have imprisoned him when she learned he freed his brother.) So yeah, I think the reveal to Dany that -- after all she had been through -- she was NOT the rightful heir to the iron throne, I assume THAT was the last straw that pushed her over the edge into Mad-Queen-Burn-Them-All territory.
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