Season 2 Discussion

[DNR]

I just noticed how rough Jesse’s skin is in the Park scene .  Boy is full of himself - he’s a mess and a nasty d^ckhead. He LOVES mentally and emotionally torturing Darcy ( she’s a loon too but he’s a sociopath) 

[sconstant]

13 minutes ago, HappyDancex2 said:

I like that Big Ang wrapped that ring in an American flag.  She’s in on the joke.  I like that...it’s basically the fourth wall.  Also nice that Michael had a ring of his own ready...although Big Ang looked more ecstatic about the yellow cake from last week.  

Yellow cake was really happening.  Marriage is just for pretend.

[EllaDisco]

12 minutes ago, spankydoll said:

I've been to.a.strip club twice in my life but my recollection was that the dancer 's routines were rigorous. But why go.the the gym if you're just going to pretend to.pedal   

TLC thought it would be a good setting.  Although I go to the gym and often see people chatting, looking at phones, not exercising.  It's annoying when it's busy and machines are full.

[Guest]

Even though Ximena claims to have forgiven him, it's not a smart move on Ricky's part to propose to a woman who is mad at you for emotionally cheating on her on a tiny raft in the middle of the sea when you just said you can't swim and she's already asked you to risk "drowning"* to prove your loyalty.

*Drowning for Ricky apparently means waddling through chest deep water.

Y'all, I know we make fun of Karine for being bratty and slobbish but watching her lose the baby was heartbreaking.

Edited October 1, 2018 by Guest

[PityFree]

 I love Ximena’s snark and her confidence. I would totally watch reality show about her life.

[JasonH]

In the Live Show, Darcy’s sister talks about getting citated for the fight with her sister. She also says “ya know” a lot. I mean, a lot.

Edited October 1, 2018 by JasonH

[Frozendiva]

Jesse, maybe you did think it was the right thing to do to break up with Darcey in person. But it is the same dynamic with the two of you. It is exhausting and demeaning and disrespectful to her. Perhaps you got some satisfaction after the last 'dig' at her. Darcey, you really should have cut him off a long time ago. The drama and the garbage was far too much. It wasn't working, he wasn't going to propose to you, whatever clothing deal or whatever arrangement you have is dysfunctional. Maybe you two will get together 5-10 years from now. Who knows.

Ximena, what you see with Ricky ain't what you're getting. There is probably a lot more you don't know - like the $30,000 debt he has to his ex-wife. You may be working to help pay it off. You are going to say yes to a guy you have known for a week, that you were his second choice, that he has two former wives, probably child support to pay, that he has left out important things to you. You are a confident woman but you will get bored of him.

Rachel, you really do need to trigger Jon's anger to see how he reacts and then decide if you want to spend your life with him. You have physically spent a couple of weeks with him before and it was a honeymoon period when both of you behaved well, and Lucy made a nice little diversion from having to really get to know each other. Both of you have past baggage. No, you don't have to tell everything about your former loves. And no, no snooping around social media and his passwords.

The Paul/Karine hospital stuff could have been handled by a subtitle or information frame on the show. Was Paul the father? He can count. Paul also needs to learn Portuguese in order to function without a translator app. He doesn't understand stuff and things that are not true can be told to him on the belief that people are translating for him. And he is being told the truth.

Wonder if Hazel is growing her hair to sell it at some point. She seemed so lifeless with Tarik - like she is selling her soul for this dude. He is not the best catch and does she really want to be a stepmother to his child with special needs? Totally unanimated, doesn't want him to touch her. Surely there are other Americans out there.

Nice of Angela to wrap the ring in an American flag. Just seal the deal, lady. Yeah, you don't have an exciting life and Michael will not like living in Nowhere, Georgia with you and being your errand boy. He got his golden ticket, for how long it lasts.

Marta, why are you wasting time on the dude from Algeria? He may be 'hot' to you but there are a boatload of cultural and religious differences. He is not likely to change his ways for you. Don't understand why some of these folks don't meet each other halfway instead of one spending the life savings - for a two week desperation trip.

[Cherrio]

My-kull should of buried her ring in a cake with no utensils.

[charmed1]

Tarik suffers from ring around the hair line.

[citychic]

Does anyone know why they put a panel up before the Michael and Angela proposal that said "these scenes may contain sensitive material"? Did I miss something?

[MrHufflepuff]

1 hour ago, HappyDancex2 said:

I wish I could care about the stripper who was not exercising at the Planet Fitness in Milwaukee.  I tried but her story is so lame.

Exercise?  I go to Planet Fitness for the free pizza, thank you very much.

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, citychic said:

Does anyone know why they put a panel up before the Michael and Angela proposal that said "these scenes may contain sensitive material"? Did I miss something?

Because any scene involving Ang and romance should contain a warning for graphic content.

I think it was actually for Karine learning her fetus is dead inside her but that answer makes me sad.

[RichiesOlderBro]

18 minutes ago, citychic said:

Does anyone know why they put a panel up before the Michael and Angela proposal that said "these scenes may contain sensitive material"? Did I miss something?

Because of the dead fetus scene. 

[Drogo]

Well, that was fucking horrible. 

Thanks for nothing, TLC. 

[Floatingbison]

1 hour ago, spankydoll said:

I've been to.a.strip club twice in my life but my recollection was that the dancer 's routines were rigorous. But why go.the the gym if you're just going to pretend to.pedal   

Because I know that Planet Fitness also has tanning booths and massage chairs.   

[gavinmac]

I don't have kids and have never been through a miscarriage and I'm sure it's horrific, but was Paul's immediate reaction normal? "What caused it, lack of food?"

It almost seemed like he was asking "Is this Karine's fault?"

On a more pleasant note, that 19 year old Mexican girl Fernanda in the previews for 90DF is smoking hot.

[Toaster Strudel]

Like, Stacey, you know...: "She was like, you know... I mean, like, you know? And I, but, you know, you know, and, like, I mean, like you know? Like. But, you know."

What an utter and vexatious waste of time it is to listen to #TwinAirhead. If she wasn't blurting out a "like, you know," she was straight up lying about everything. Her account of the shoe throwing was completely different from Darcey's own version... and it surely didn't escape the viewers' notice that Stacey wasn't even there, so who is she to take a side, or even a gander as to which protagonist was telling the truth? She downplayed the fight they had where they called the police, no one was fooled.  She lies the same way Drama Darcey did in the car with Jesse, when she completely denied anything had happened. The only good part of that mind crushing interview was Michele Collins who looked like she was sitting in a doll house, and Stacey looked like she walked off the set of Honey I Shrunk the Kids 4.

On her way to the park, Darcey had already worked herself into a self-sabotaging lather of viper venom while simultaneously hoping Jesse would come to rekindle the romance. She stood around the bench in stilettos of vertiginous height, enough luggage for a trip around the world, and dressed like a bride, if weddings were officiated in night clubs.

The Flying Dutchman of Integrity arrived to meet with Darcey to propose, just as she expected... with the plot twist of proposing a permanent breakup. Is there a ring for that? Because a proposal at a beautiful quiet park bench is the stuff memories are made of! I'd sure want a ring.

Between Jesse weirdly inviting her to a hotel instead of crushing her right there on the park bench (if he intended to meet her at a hotel, it would have been more convenient to meet in the lobby, no?), and her flicking her talons like scorpion tails at him, we knew the exchange was going to be a short one. She wastes no time dialing up the drama to 11 by declaring: "I don't want any drama!!!!!" in a clearly antagonistic tone of voice. Woman, give the coffee peddler a chance to break up with integrity! He jumps at the opportunity to remind her that she's an alcoholic (she probably is) and needs therapy, and brings up a police report that was all over the internet... which she squarely denies, because both her and her twin lie like rugs. The lovers didn't make it up to the hotel. After a brief game of chicken as to who would be first to get out of the car, Darcey takes the jump, shouting: "GET OUTTA MAH LAHF!" And that's it. The #twinflames burnt bright, but the fire department came, put an end to the conflagration, and all we have left are cinders , smoke and water damage, and the job of writing insurance claims that will be denied due to negligence.

[gavinmac]

Did anyone see the last ten minutes of the wrap up show (hour 3) where Dean says Tarik is into orgies? And Dean also publicly outs Hazel, the daughter of devout religious parents, as bisexual.  What a jackass.

[TrininisaScorp]

So, I think Karine is a pain and Paul sucks, but, man, that was sad.  Like with Pao's abuela, I struggle with the exploitative nature of something so tragic and deeply, deeply personal.   So.  Imma lay off this week.  Except to say, did I catch them saying 8-9 weeks?   That timeline gets weird for me.  And Paul is the worst at giving basic human empathy and care. 

Oh. Gawd. Can Darcey and Pale Man not?! This is literally their entire existence.   Also, Darcey's biography cover should be her wearing that ridic getup inclusive of fur coat on the side of road with baggage bigger than she is.  Also.  Her luggage.  Hee.    Whomever said that Jesse thinks he is super mature is 100% on it...he thinks he is wise beyond his years and he's just an egomaniac.

I LOVE Ximena b/c I dislike Ricky.   

X: "Jump in the water and all is forgiven"

R: "I cannot swim" 

X: "IDGAF, bitch"

**SPLASH** **CRAMP**

TrininisaScorp:  **cackles**

But, like.  These ppl need to not get married.

As we are talking "ppl who shouldn't get married", let's turn to Tarik and Hazel. That was the most lackluster acceptance of a proposal I've ever seen.  It felt like 2 hrs for her to say yes.  Can we talk about Tarik's shitty rap?!  WTF?  Did we know he made shitty music?  Is there more?  Can I torture my friends with it?  I blame Post Malone and all these Lil' rappers for making people think they can hip hop.  

Michael looked like he got he golden ticket from Willy Wonka. Little does he know the amount of work he will be putting in to earn that red/white/blue.  Should we tell him how our country is behaving toward brown/black immigrant these days?  Nah.  I'll let the state of Georgia handle that shit right quick. 

Edited to add:  Forgot about Rachel and Jon.  We've begun playing a game of "chicken little"-90 Day edition with Rachel.  Basically, everytime Rachel says something dire for literally nothing or debbie downs, the first person to note it wins.  The only flaw is that in this episode that was literally every utterance out of her mouth.  So, it loses something.  Jon's temper isn't cute, nor is his casual attitude about his many, many exs. 

Edited October 1, 2018 by TrininisaScorp

[magemaud]

2 hours ago, ALittleShelfish said:

Man, I missed her part.  I got home about an hour into the show and totally missed her.  And by "I missed her" I mean "I was not present for her scenes" and not "I noticed and am sad about the absence of The Stripper and The Muslim on my television screen."  

You didn’t miss much. Marta just leisurely pedaled on the exercise bike in full Michael Jackson makeup while she complained to her scowling stripper friend from work that she was “fustrated” but that her religious differences with Daya were just “a little problem” 

Edited October 1, 2018 by magemaud

[Toaster Strudel]

Shreky is such a loser. He reminds me of a guy in middle school who sent me a torrid love letter for Valentine's Day. I thought he was a Pole type of weirdo, so I showed it to enough friends that it eventually came back that he had sent 4 such letters to 4 girls he calculated were in different social circles and wouldn't find out. Ximena disappoints thoroughly by accepting Melissa's cheap ring from a fanny pack wearing, already married Priap.

So it's a "punch in the gut" for Karaoke Filter Face that her family can't attend her rushed marriage to a short-tempered, pugilistic Brit. Girl, get a grip. You don't even know if he'll ever get entry. Having said that, she's lucky he was nonplussed by her uninvited prying into his social media account. He would have been right to be upset, yet, she's acting all self-righteous. She's pretending the spying was accidental and she couldn't stop because it was like a "train wreck" but it actually sounded pretty casual and innocent, and she should mind her own business. This guy is willing to raise her child from another man, she should thank her lucky star and STFU with the petty ex-girlfriend drama... she has two baby daddies!

Tardik is "more serious" with Hazel than with another other woman! Even the woman he had a child with? What a moron. "The people around me get crazy when they see me happy! They want to tear my stuff up!" He's the common denominator, thanks for letting us know there's something wrong with HIM. Not that we couldn't already tell by his googly eye dumbass facial expressions and fetish for buffalo plaid fabrics and fishnet shirts. So Hazel pressures him to propose, with the enthusiasm of a dead fish on a bed of ice at the market, only looking up to gauge his reaction and plot her next retort. There's a rich man in Japan waiting in the wings to take care of her for her entire life! "I don't react so well when I'm backed into a corner," announces Tardik, truthfully, since he proposes to her in the next scene. She pretends to be surprised, accepts reluctantly, wondering how she got there. "Do you love me for real?" asks Tardik, because that's a normal question to ask on the day you proposed. Now Hazel is effin' annoyed with his needy ass. "Yeahsssss," she slurs. He pulls out what looks like a flashlight, but turns out to be a device that plays him rapping. Hazel looked disgusted with it, but probably not as much as the collective of 90DF viewers. When asked if she liked the rap, she waited an eternity before calling the program subroutine for saying "Yes I Like It" like a robot. It's important to Tardik that he be thought of as a good rapper, you see. 

Transmission Oil Kriny wanted a bebe to save the relationship, now she worries that the bad relationship will be bad for the bebe. But bebe didn't make it because of some genetic problem, everyone weeps. Not that PyroPole could afford to support a family on the allowance he gets from his mom! It's hard to snark on that, too soon, so... next!

"I can't afford to make no more mistakes" grunts Wrinklegela. I guess grammatical mistakes don't count. I had to turn on the subtitles because I don't understand half her words. I found out that Mahkull showed her a place when people hid during the war... and she shouted out: SEX! It's like her reptilian mind never leaves the proverbial gutter. "I'm not easy to live with" she tells him, before starting to recount her daily chores, as a preface to the dumbest proposal ever. She hands him the ring wrapped in a small flag (to symbolize the rags he'll have to use to wipe her ass in her imminent dotage), he gets on his knees, gives her a ring too, blah blah blah. These two gross me out, like half-chewed snails wrapped in slimy saliva.
 

42 minutes ago, gavinmac said:

Did anyone see the last ten minutes of the wrap up show (hour 3) where Dean says Tarik is into orgies? And Dean also publicly outs Hazel, the daughter of devout religious parents, as bisexual.  What a jackass.

Thanks for sharing, I gave up on the live show after Stacey blurted out "you know" for the hundredth time.

Edited October 1, 2018 by Toaster Strudel

[monagatuna]

19 minutes ago, TrininisaScorp said:

I LOVE Ximena b/c I dislike Ricky.   

X: "Jump in the water and all is forgiven"

R: "I cannot swim" 

X: "IDGAF, bitch"

**SPLASH** **CRAMP**

TrininisaScorp:  **cackles**

But, like.  These ppl need to not get married.

 

I so badly want to take her out for drinks and dancing. I think she'd be a hilarious gal pal. I hope she finds someone who deserves her, because Ricky ain't it.

[chickenella]

1 hour ago, MrHufflepuff said:

Exercise?  I go to Planet Fitness for the free pizza, thank you very much.

Oh, good you just reminded me that today is Pizza day there!!

[guilfoyleatpp]

Tarik is a piece of shit. I hope Hazel takes him for a ride.

He's not a nice man. He's not a loyal man or a thoughtful man or even a generous one. He's selfish, self-centered and completely self-absorbed. Hazel is not a full human being to him. I think he hoped by dating someone for whom English was a second language he would be able to hide his hostility towards women in general.

Unfortunately for him, that shit shines through loud and clear.

Speaking of hostile, Jon is trouble. He once again proves that he has no concept of consequences. Just like he can't figure out the consequences of getting drunk and getting into fights, he can't seem to comprehend the consequences of inviting a fucking ex-girlfriend to a pre-wedding dinner for his new fiance. The way he snapped at her in the car when she called him on his bullshit was alarming and that shit'll get tired soon.

[Bees52]

After seeing Dean's interview on the live show, I know each time he see's Hazel's name he put the word "witch" in front of it.

[jumper sage]

1 hour ago, Toaster Strudel said:

The only good part of that mind crushing interview was Michele Collins who looked like she was sitting in a doll house,

The chair was for children.  She looked ridiculous.

1 hour ago, Toaster Strudel said:

On her way to the park, Darcey had already worked herself into a self-sabotaging lather of viper venom while simultaneously hoping Jesse would come to rekindle the romance. She stood around the bench in stilettos of vertiginous height, enough luggage for a trip around the world, and dressed like a bride, if weddings were officiated in night clubs.

Don't forget she was pushing up her breasts and posing!

[guilfoyleatpp]

I call bullshit on Darcey being surprised by Jesse breaking up with her. Her outfit was 100% designed to get him to want to bang her one last time before he breaks up with her.

[millennium]

Look, a goat.

I expected that after Ricky put the ring on Ximena's finger, they would cut to a talking head of Ricky saying, "Of course now I feel compelled to tell Ximena this is the ring I originally intended to give to Melissa ..."

There are certain rules regarding how American flags must be treated.  These rules are called the STANDARDS OF RESPECT.

Among these: 

The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything.

and the lesser known:

The flag should never be sandwiched between two bloated, sweaty slabs of rough and wrinkled Angela flesh.

Donald Trump, here I come!   I bet Michael envisions the President welcoming him with open arms.

I hate the Muslim/stripper story.    Go away, nobody cares.

Was it just me or did the ends of John's hair grow like mile-a-minute weed as he was driving?

Rachel was being an idiot.  She shouldn't have been snooping around in John's social media in the first place, and his explanation sounded honest and sincere.   There was nothing objectionable in what he said to his former girlfriend.  Stupid Rachel seems to think John's life only began to matter the instant she karaoked into it.

Darcey's toe cleavage was singularly unlovely.
 

1 hour ago, guilfoyleatpp said:

I call bullshit on Darcey being surprised by Jesse breaking up with her. Her outfit was 100% designed to get him to want to bang her one last time before he breaks up with her.

In that case, she should have worn the coat, the heels, and nothing underneath.

[Cherpumple]

3 hours ago, gavinmac said:

I don't have kids and have never been through a miscarriage and I'm sure it's horrific, but was Paul's immediate reaction normal? "What caused it, lack of food?"

It almost seemed like he was asking "Is this Karine's fault?"

I read it as a normal reaction to receiving devastating news. I don't think he was blaming her or accusing her of something; he was just trying to make sense of things by looking for a rational explanation for something unexpected and seemingly random. I feel bad for them, especially since they have to deal with it while their relationship is in such bad shape. What a terrible, lonely time in their lives.

Tarik and Hazel continue to baffle me. I still have no idea if "marrying a Japanese man" was about a specific man, or just a general idea. And aside from Hazel's "he might be rich" comment, I have no idea what she actually thought of that option. Was it even real? Also, I've never dated a man with kids, but I would consider it a HUGE red flag if he wanted me to meet his child without the knowledge of the child's mother. That seems incredibly disrespectful to his co-parent, not to mention selfish and unfair to his daughter, who is now in the position of lying to her own mother. And if the reason for the subterfuge is because his ex is "crazy" or whatever he called her, I'd probably just nope out of there. I don't need that kind of drama in my life.

I've been waiting all season to see Darcy storm out of that van like a snow beast, but the actual scene was just meh. And he didn't even technically break up with her, so it wouldn't surprise me if they patch things up next week. I'm exhausted just thinking about it.

I liked most of the "Live" portion. Michelle is actually quite sharp and witty when she's allowed to be herself, and she asked some questions I've been thinking for a while. However, I could have definitely done without the interrogation of Abby about her sex life with Sean and Chris (shudder), and I can't believe she didn't address the elephant in the room - Ricky is STILL married! He has no right to be proposing to anyone!

I'm so glad this show is almost over. I watched the previews for the next round, starting in a few weeks, and I just can't. Three batches of 90 Day in a row is too much for me. There are just too many terrible things going on right now for me to spend my free time watching dysfunctional idiots make terrible life choices. I might record the new episodes and watch them in a few months, but I'm definitely taking a break when the current round of train wrecks is over.

Edited October 1, 2018 by Cherpumple

[MrHufflepuff]

With this Ricky thing, maybe TLC is trying to do a show that's a combo between 90-Day Fiance and a polygamy show?

Big 90-Day Love

90-Day Sister Wives

Three 90-Day Fiances, One Husband

[trimthatfat]

7 hours ago, HappyDancex2 said:

Even with the warning that was upsetting.  That doctor or clinician who told her the baby was dead, the exam was over and get off the table was making me want to punch something.  I’m still irritated about it an hour later.

He has terrible bedside manner. I am assuming that his straight forward approach might have been cultural, but jeez, dude. At least give her a few minutes to mourn.

5 hours ago, gavinmac said:

I don't have kids and have never been through a miscarriage and I'm sure it's horrific, but was Paul's immediate reaction normal? "What caused it, lack of food?"

It almost seemed like he was asking "Is this Karine's fault?"

On a more pleasant note, that 19 year old Mexican girl Fernanda in the previews for 90DF is smoking hot.

I don’t think he was saying it was Karine’s fault at all. He was looking for answers as most parents do after a miscarriage. They wonder if it was due to diet, stress, too much exercise, etc. It’s normal to wonder why. Most miscarriages happen due to genetic anomalies but because society doesn’t talk about miscarriages like they should, a lot of people don’t realize this.

My heart broke for Karine. Likewise for Paul when he started crying, but couldn’t follow what was happening. Very sad. I read online that TLC had some kind of warning on the screen before the scene, but I missed it. Anyone catch what it said?

[DropTheSoap]

On 9/24/2018 at 3:06 PM, Mr. Minor said:

Tarik is a dumbass, I'm hoping he's smart enough to leave Hazel in the PI.

The only thing that makes me think Tarik deserves all he gets with Hazel, is Tarik's daughter. Tarik deserves whatever mess he creates, but his daughter does not.

[Justaguess]

The live host sucks.  She is hostile and antagonistic and on a power trip.  MEAN SPIRITED!!

[Drogo]

Ricky:  "I didn't even hesitate, I just jumped in."

 

Rachel: "We're going to go left." 

Also Rachel: *points right*

Jon: 

And Rachel's face after John started talking about bumping into his ex?  She looked so disappointed that he was telling her something she had been looking forward to confronting him about for 2 weeks. 

 This marriage is destined for success.

[citychic]

7 hours ago, RichiesOlderBro said:

Because of the dead fetus scene. 

Thanks. I didn't remember Paul's scene being in the same cycle.

[Baltimore Betty]

3 hours ago, Cherpumple said:

and I can't believe she didn't address the elephant in the room - Ricky is STILL married! He has no right to be proposing to anyone!

He is waiting to make a nice romantic dinner to tell Noxcema that he is already married and then he better run!

And still we have had no duet with the 90 Day Steve and Edie.  Will they sing at their wedding?

[MrHufflepuff]

11 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

He is waiting to make a nice romantic dinner to tell Noxcema that he is already married and then he better run!

Undoubtedly, though, he will first whine to us about how hard it is for him to tell the truth about his marriage.

[Pepper Mostly]

9 hours ago, EllaDisco said:

TLC thought it would be a good setting.  Although I go to the gym and often see people chatting, looking at phones, not exercising.  It's annoying when it's busy and machines are full.

It makes a change from the nail salon and the omnipresent pedicures.

9 hours ago, SnarkEnthusiast said:

Even though Ximena claims to have forgiven him, it's not a smart move on Ricky's part to propose to a woman who is mad at you for emotionally cheating on her on a tiny raft in the middle of the sea when you just said you can't swim and she's already asked you to risk "drowning"* to prove your loyalty.

*Drowning for Ricky apparently means waddling through chest deep water.

I was waiting breathlessly for her to go full Patty McCormick in The Bad Seed and push him overboard, then smash his fingers with her shoes. I am disappoint.

9 hours ago, PityFree said:

 I love Ximena’s snark and her confidence. I would totally watch reality show about her life.

Me too! Especially if it involves fleecing creepy smarmy douchebags, while accumulating nice vacations, cute tops and bathing suits, and nice dinners in fancy restaurants, supplemented by cash gifts "to help out her nephews".

7 hours ago, gavinmac said:

Did anyone see the last ten minutes of the wrap up show (hour 3) where Dean says Tarik is into orgies? And Dean also publicly outs Hazel, the daughter of devout religious parents, as bisexual.  What a jackass.

Dean is an even bigger asshole than his brother. What a colossal douche canoe.

[JasonH]

[lucy711]

Almost every married couple I know dated for multiple years before their wedding.  I am amazed and horrified at how things speed up in 90 Day Fiance land.  Tarik knows she is the one after a few weeks, and Ricky proposes to Ximena days (hours?) after meeting her...

The Paul and Karine scenes were heartbreaking and slightly confusing.  She was 4-5 weeks pregnant last week, and it felt like 2 days later she was 9 weeks.

I think Rachel is pretty.  I never noticed until tonight how she is negative about everything and has quite the downer personality.   Good luck with that, Jon.

[shockermolar]

On 9/26/2018 at 1:17 PM, eatsleep said:

She can't have it both ways. She and her family were pressuring him for a proposal. So she is either a stranger to him or his intended fiancee. Can't be both at the same time. And most women who are gunning for the engagement ring have been somewhat physically intimate w/ the guy. She's transactionally bartering sex for financial security. And that ring is he down payment.

Yeah, no. No woman owes any many for sex. Not even if she is his fiancee. Not even if she is his wife. Not even if she gussied up for the purposes of attracting a husband. Not even if/when he spends money on a beach hotel in a third world country. Not even if she is dangling the carrot. That may open her up for a whole hell of a lot of judgement, but it doesn't put her under any obligation whatsoever to be his personal sex doll. And that in a nutshell is what the dynamic is for these men.  They paid up so they deserve to have a girl that's DTF.  Only that's both gross and horrifying. She can absolutely have it both ways. If he doesn't like it he knows where the airport is.

[bichonblitz]

10 hours ago, JasonH said:

In the Live Show, Darcy’s sister talks about getting citated for the fight with her sister. She also says “ya know” a lot. I mean, a lot.

She also talks in crazy circles just like her sister. 

Tarik's brother reallllllly spilled the beans! Who knew Tarik (and Hazel) were so kinky!!

[shockermolar]

11 hours ago, endure said:

Delusional Ricky trying to convInce us he almost drowned.

Seriously! He must have mentioned it every time he was on air afterwards. Dude, you were within 6 inches of the dock and a shit ton of production staff the entire 10 seconds you were underwater and 1 minute you were in the water. CALM DOWN you did not almost drown.

[Dobian]

It's horrible when anyone loses a baby, but maybe now Karine can just cut ties with Pole for the betterment of everyone.

Ricky: "I will risk drowning for you, Ximena.  Oh, and just ignore that film crew standing there with their arms already reaching over the pier to grab me."

I think Michael is going to dump Angela for Donald Trump as soon as he gets to America.

So Jon wants a "new beginning" with his old flame.  No trouble signs here.

So the Angry Dutchman completed his mission.  Fly to NY, be a colossal asshole, and get another scene on tv.

Edited October 1, 2018 by Dobian

[millennium]

How do you guys manage to watch the snippets of show sandwiched between 2 hours of commercials PLUS the live show?   That's three hours at a stretch.   I made it through two, but only by the blessed invention known as Fast Forward.   I didn't get to the Live Show yet (though by now it sorta feels like I don't have to).

Pole, this is the Universe calling.   Go home.

3 minutes ago, Dobian said:

 

So the Angry Dutchman completed his mission.  Fly to NY, be a colossal asshole, and get another scene on tv.

I wonder if he toyed with the idea of stopping by Middletown -- you know, just to make sure Stacey's all right.

[shockermolar]

7 hours ago, guilfoyleatpp said:

Tarik is a piece of shit. I hope Hazel takes him for a ride.

He's not a nice man. He's not a loyal man or a thoughtful man or even a generous one. He's selfish, self-centered and completely self-absorbed. Hazel is not a full human being to him. I think he hoped by dating someone for whom English was a second language he would be able to hide his hostility towards women in general.

Did anyone else think it was odd that he wanted Hazel to facetime with his daughter, was presumably doing it through his ex's phone (Caller ID said Rosita) but didn't want Hazel visible when Rosita answered? Did he not anticipate that she would be in the near vicinity when their FIVE year old special needs daughter was using her phone? Or that, after the call, she might tell her mom that she talked to dad's new girlfriend, or mention in passing that he wasn't in the country? Not really a logistics genius there, I'm thinking.

[Booger666]

Does anyone know what Tarik’s actual job is?  He seems super low functioning and I don’t understand how he can hold a job to support himself and his daughter.  Seems like Tarik should be living at home and sponging off of mom like Paul does.

[Mainer]

I think Dean actually lives in reality and he needed to tell it like it is so we all could understand why he seemed so brash and mean before, he’s looking out for his brother and he knows his brother well... so he wants his brother to think before he just Marries some girl he barely knows... Tardiff is looking at Hazel like  one of his real estate transactions... the way he said I had to go for it etc.. like she’s some flip house?!? Like wtf.. he’s literally gambling taking a chance all based on her looks, you know they haven’t gotten very far when she throws out that her sister mentioned a Japanese guy and he might be rich.. she’s weighing out her options too, neither one of them know what Love is, there both coming from what’s the best option life path, for her financially who’s gonna take care of her and for him it’s a matter of good sex... weird because she looks like  someone who would be quite dull and less then average in the bedroom.. lol anyways, 

jesse and Darci, I’m actually glad she didn’t allow him to go threw his probably well thought out speech, on why he was leaving her, I’m glad she cut him off and didn’t give the opportunity to revel in his own great insight and judgement in her life, he wanted to really give it to her one last time on why he just could never be with a peasant like her, it’s discusting to me how he thinks he’s better. So she got in a fight with her sister, maybe they were drunk?? Big fucken deal none of your business douche bag... does it make her less of a person?? Not in my eyes people have fights probably especially twins, and maybe they are both drama queens but really he needs to leave her over it because he’s too good to be associated with someone of that low level?? Get over yourself Jesse, we are all human and we all make mistakes and that’s how people learn, your not better then anybody else!! He looks Ike an upside down mop! Twig body with a mop on top, and someone mentioned his skin.. yes!! Nasty dude good luck in ten years your really gonna be a catch! Not!! All this judgement and I’m better then you stuff is gonna bite him in the butt.. oh well. Darci does act dumb but she’s had it, mister I’m perfect has done nothing but pick on her every flaw and attack her character when he could’ve just moved on.. 

Edited October 1, 2018 by Mainer

[Mainer]

18 minutes ago, Booger666 said:

 

Does anyone know what Tarik’s actual job is?  He seems super low functioning and I don’t understand how he can hold a job to support himself and his daughter.  Seems like Tarik should be living at home and sponging off of mom like Paul does.

 

Dean said they co own a  Real estate  Company and have orgies 

[Cherrio]

26 minutes ago, millennium said:

I wonder if he toyed with the idea of stopping by Middletown -- you know, just to make sure Stacey's all right.

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