S21.E01: Season 21 Premiere

[OnceSane]

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Season 21 begins with Nick Viall meeting 30 beautiful bachelorettes, each clamoring for his attention and the coveted first-impression rose. By the end of the initial rose ceremony, only 22 ladies remain to continue on their path to win Nick's heart. But before the ladies arrive, Sean Lowe, Chris Soules and Ben Higgins offer Nick advice on searching for his soul mate.

 

[bosawks]

Do the producers go to the bus station and take the people the scientologists don't want?

[Armchair Critic]

I was surprised Dolphin (Shark) Girl made it through, maybe Nick is actually a nice guy. That is suspicious how Liz (Wild Mustang's friend) came on there when she could have contacted Nick outside the show, I was surprised that he also gave her a rose but maybe he didn't want to dis her because of his friendship with Jade and Tanner.

[Laurie4H]

Do people actually believe that the woman Nick supposedly slept with just decided to be a contestant?  It's producer driven and probably all scripted anyways.

He gives a rose to Josephine but not the beautiful model?  Not that it's only about looks but....

I noticed there were several African American women....usually there is only one or 2.  If I recall correctly.  Just an observation.  And one got the first impression rose.

It is so ridiculous that these women who never met him say he is a genuine guy and that he is really looking for love since it's his 4th attempt.  Do they know how stupid they sound?  I'm sure they are couched but still.  Also they say they are lonely and want to find love....what better way than to compete for one man with 30 other woman!  

Edited January 3, 2017 by Laurie4H

[scenicbyway]

This episode is called "red dress" right?  Who cares if every girl has on a red dress?  I thought Nick came off as smarmy.  I was surprised it kept shark girl but more surprised he kept wedding girl.

[Ohwell]

He just kept Dolphin Girl for grins.  I predict she'll be gone soon enough.

[Ms Blue Jay]

Nick pleased me with who he picked for first impression rose.

I liked the episode.  I hope this season goes better than Jojo's which was a massive disappointment to me.

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I noticed there were several African American women....usually there is only one or 2.  If I recall correctly.  Just an observation.  And one got the first impression rose.

The episode seemed pretty multicultural, yes.

That was "Dolphinately" a shark costume, and the woman inside it seemed plastered.  I think it's incredible she didn't pass out from the alcohol, heat, and possible stupidity.

Edited January 3, 2017 by Ms Blue Jay

[JenE4]

Ben says that when Nick proposes, he'll also be asking that woman to accept an apology for all of Nick's past televised mistakes on behalf of Bachelor Nation. Really?! That's pretty hyperbolic. I'm good, Nick. No apologies necessary. The entertainment at your expense for 4 seasons has been a gift.

I need to jot down names while watching to try to remember people...

 

Intro packages:
Rachel the vacuuming attorney--Andy II
Danielle the sexy salon owner--contender
Vanessa the multi-lingual special-needs teacher--contender
Josephine the meowing, wacky nursing student--no, honey
Raven the small-town gal--good for Chris
Corinne--is an adult who still has a nanny for HERSELF while she works for her dad. Oh, boy! High maintenance alert!
???--dolphin loving jersey girl--missed her name; won't matter because she won't last
Danielle M--cute nurse, like her!

???...missed another one, talks about being bi-racial as her storyline

???--missed name, already did fiancé stuff with Nick!!!!

Jeez! They went by too quickly!!

Limo entrances:

Christen with the fan--nope!

Taylor--looked sweet AT FIRST; ruined it quickly with her friends comment 

Lauren Hussy. Unfortunate.

Ida Marie's crop top dress has gotta go.

Sarah's sprinting in in a worse dress.

Neil Lane!! Is this woman friends with Neil?!?

Hailey is beautiful--I don't get her joke at all. "Do you know what a woman who doesn't wear underwear says? Neither do I." she's saying she's wearing underwear? Ok. Maybe I got that backwards and she's implying she doesn't wear underwear?

Astrid, Nick doesn't know what you're saying.

Nick does NOT remember the woman he slept with--and neither do I; they didn't show her name! Wait, the look on Nick's face. You see the wheels turning and it's setting in! Lol!

Corrine is beautiful and cute--do not fall for it! She is an adult with a nanny to bring her cucumbers!!!

Vanessa--even Nick agrees she's a keeper.

Danielle The cute nurse with the syrup.

Raven, no, Go find Chris Soules.

Nose ring balls, no, keep walkin'.

Beard massage with more to come, no.

Josephine has a raw wiener in a book to lady and the tramp it, oh, hell no.

Lacey on a camel hump. Whaaat? All the girls wish they thought of that, lol.

Alexis the dolphin girl who is actually dressed as a shark. No, girl, go back to Seacaucus.

 

Cocktail party:

Rachel is getting good background music!! Extra points!!! The producers keep putting her first, too, so more points for that. For these reasons alone, she's going in my final bracket picks!

Vanessa is also getting good music, more sentimental than sexy. Interrupted by Corinne's Wild West villain music--in for a kiss!!

Jasmine did not steal him away!! They are allowed to say no!! Now she's crying over it.

The dolphin shark is in the pool!!! Nick is NOT going to let it slide that it's a shark costume, lol.

Nick is calling out Wedding girl as Wrong Reasons. Two in a row! I'm going to like this season if he continues to let it all out instead of keeping his rude thoughts to himself, as they tend to do. Let's just hope he doesn't go as far as Ben Flapjack, however his name is spelled (not Higgins).

Someone quoted Sex in the City in a frame. No.

Danielle, the cute nurse with the wavy hair gets good music, too. She's another one of my picks so far.

Rachel gets the rose! This was obvious from the start!

 

Rose Ceremony:

He kept the dolphin shark?!?!? Sharphin? Dork? ah, yes. Dork would be the appropriate mash-up name.

Nose balls?

Josephine? He's not aware yet that she's the crazy one--tied with Dork.

Lauren Hussy goes home? Maybe it was an unfortunate intro with the bad last names, but she is gorgeous.

Corinne and Liz--and the music editors--remind us that they will be the villains to watch. Da-da-dum!

Corrine's platinum "vagine" sounds painful.

[KLovestoShop]

That Corrine is something else.  She DOES come off as a dumb blonde, but she claims to run a multi million dollar company?  What, is it a hooker farm or porn company?  

Edited January 3, 2017 by KLovestoShop

[Armchair Critic]

5 minutes ago, KLovestoShop said:

she claims to run a multi million dollar company?

It's owned by her father.

[TiredMe]

My vagine is platinum...did I hear that right?  Classy...

one of the girls was a spitting image of Andi. Somehow I think those two crazy kids should give round two a go. 

Liz, god girl, just no. I'm so humiliated for you. 

[Armchair Critic]

4 minutes ago, TiredMe said:

Liz, god girl, just no. I'm so humiliated for you.

If he didn't try to contact you after 9 months he's not interested.

[lianau]

Maybe the shark identifies as a dolphin . 

[awaken]

Wow, there are some seriously fugly people on this show. I was staring in fascination at some of them. Some massively high foreheads! 

I really can't stand nick, don't find him attractive, and am not excited about this season.  It seemed even trashier then usual, which is saying a lot!  "Nick is a very sexual person."  "We all like a good hump."  Seriously?!

[Jax7917]

Doubt shd would say no when he asked for her number .. gonna say this story is all set up.. and agreed . If he didn't try to get in touch with you after 9 months , he's not interested .

i don't see him lasting with anyone in the end . I sense he'll get engaged for as long as Chris soules was 

Edited January 3, 2017 by Jaclyn88

[gator12]

9 minutes ago, Armchair Critic said:

If he didn't try to contact you after 9 months he's not interested.

That the thing, he ask her for her phone number and she told him it was just a ONS to her and she had the audacity to come of the show 

[awaken]

Lots of Nurses, too, which I found interesting. Did they go around recruiting them?

[ByaNose]

11 minutes ago, awaken said:

Wow, there are some seriously fugly people on this show. I was staring in fascination at some of them. Some massively high foreheads! 

I really can't stand nick, don't find him attractive, and am not excited about this season.  It seemed even trashier then usual, which is saying a lot!  "Nick is a very sexual person."  "We all like a good hump."  Seriously?!

Nick isn't really "The Bachelor" good looking, is he? I guess he's different for having a beard, too. I thought Chris Soules had awesome pecs but his annoyed me. Ben looked too much like Peter Brady & Sean Lowe was too blond & bland. Jesse Palmer was really good looking in a tool sort of way.

[Adeejay]

22 hours ago, Laurie4H said:

I noticed there were several African American women....usually there is only one or 2.  If I recall correctly.  Just an observation.  And one got the first impression rose.

Clearly Nick has a preference, because there were hardly any blondes.  

I find it rather interesting that Liz slept with Nick, refused to give him her phone number, but the moment she found out he was going to be the Bachelor, signed up for the show.  Then had the nerve to say that she isn't there because he is the Bachelor.  Bitch, please!  If you were really interested in Nick and not "The Bachelor", you would have asked Jade for his number months ago. 

Edited January 4, 2017 by Adeejay

[Ms Blue Jay]

I find Nick more attractive than Ben and Sean.  Chris seems so dumb.  It looks like the producers knew the potential they had in Nick and it seems like these women really are into him.  There were a couple of women seriously melting down this episode already.

[Nedsdag]

I only watched this show because I wanted to watch the car crash that is Nick Viall, plus, I will be out of the country next week so I will miss the show.

A few thoughts:

• British royalty was well represented tonight with slutty Kate Middleton (Liz) and Prince Harry's girlfriend Meghan Markle (Taylor the biracial Seattle shrink). 
• Chinless Corinne and Jabberjaw the dolphin were chosen because they're good television. We all know Corinne will be on Bachelor in Paradise this summer along with One Night Stand Liz.
• Many women of color were represented tonight. Someone watched UnREAL last season. ;)
• I've never seen so many nurses chosen as contestants. I guess I should be impressed since I'm the daughter of a retired nurse. Is this a record?
• Who is in charge of wardrobe this season? There were so many tight dresses I feared numerous malfunctions. 
• Prince Farming looked like he put on a few pounds, but what advice did he have to give Nick? How to tango on Dancing With the Stars? At least Ben and Sean are still in relationships, right?
• Nick is still slimy to me. He can't even cry right.
• So the final rose will be given out in Siberia? Or is it Antarctica? 

[truthaboutluv]

1 minute ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

I find Nick more attractive than Ben and Sean.  Chris seems so dumb.  It looks like the producers knew the potential they had in Nick and it seems like these women really are into him.  There were a couple of women seriously melting down this episode already.

This. It's all subjective because none of these guys ever did a thing for me but while I may not want to date Nick because I get the feeling he'd be difficult to deal with (actually I think he's admitted that about himself), I would not kick him out of bed. Which I'm guessing was Liz' story. She was totally down for the hookup and to have it be that and the next thing, he's the new Bachelor lead.

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I find it rather interesting that Liz slept with Nick, refused to give him her phone number, but the moment she found out he was going to be the Bachelor, sign up for the show.  Then had the nerve to say that she isn't there because he is the Bachelor.  Bitch, please!  If you were really interested in Nick and not "The Bachelor", you would have ask Jade for his number months ago. 

Which is essentially what Nick said to her. Based on the Bachelor world rumor mill, I think the belief is that Liz got cast before they picked Nick as the lead. So the belief is that she got cast likely assuming, like everyone else, that Luke was going to be the Bachelor. So she had her hookup with Nick, got some connections with the producers through Jade to get on the show and was going to chase her "fairytale" with Luke, with everyone (well I'm sure she told Jade) none the wiser about her and Nick's hookup.

But then the producers screwed that plan up by making Nick the Bachelor and there was no way she was going to turn down her chance to be on television. Plus the producers probably convinced her that she had a great chance to be his final choice based on his being attracted enough to her before to hookup with her. I'm pretty sure she even made a comment to that effect in the episode. 

[Madding crowd]

I wished I liked Nick more; I'm also from the Milwaukee area, went to the same college he did and am also a die hard Green Bay Packers fan. But I always find him very fake and smarmy. There were way too many women for me to remember names yet, but I liked the first impression rose lawyer, the cute nurse from Wisconsin and a couple others seemed ok. I can't imagine hookup Liz staying around. It seems like she has no interest in Nick but hooked up with him for a possible connection to the show. If he actually did want to call her and she wasn't interested, he should just send her packing.

All of the red dresses was distracting. I think it is likely producer influenced for some unknown reason. I stand firm on my belief that the show provides all of the evening gowns and bikinis and the girls bring the rest. I know people say this isn't true, but keep watch when they show the bedrooms the girls sleep in and their luggage; nary a gown. And carrying with you 20 sparkly gowns would require a lot of hanging bags which we never see. No idea why Nick kept shark/dolphin girl except maybe he needed to keep a few extra's for fodder. I thought the one girl who left who was wearing a gold glitter dress was very pretty and seemed nice. Its' kind of unfair. I always think the bachelor sends home the few girls he doesn't get to talk to. It makes sense that he would keep people he had a good conversation with, but he could be sending home some great girls who just aren't super pushy about getting time. 

[srpturtle80]

I haven't watched the Bachelor in an age, but absolutely love BIP. So my ONLY knowledge of Nick comes from watching him last season on BIP. And I absolutely adore him (ducks!). He is the only reason I am tuning in this season. I think he's adorable. 

That said, shark/dolphin chick was driving me nuts insisting that her costume was not a shark. I just wanted to throw things at my tv everytime she was going on about that again. 

Loved Danielle (I think), the NICU nurse. She just seemed really down to earth and normal.

Finally, hated how the one girl's profession was listed as "law school graduate." And she was 30 years old. As an attorney this really bugged me. What does that mean? Assuming you went to law school immediately after college, what have you been doing for the past 5-ish years? Failing the bar exam?

geez, can you tell I had a crappy day? I'm a little cranky lol

Edited January 3, 2017 by srpturtle80

[srpturtle80]

Sorry, double post

Edited January 3, 2017 by srpturtle80

[Lemons]

1 hour ago, Armchair Critic said:

If he didn't try to contact you after 9 months he's not interested.

I think the producers had to remind nick that he had met her at a wedding and had drunk sex with her.  There was no sign of recognition when she got out of the limo. She got to save face anyway, how humiliating. 

[Negritude]

"...so that made me feel like he doesn't remember who I am. And I kind of like that. I like a little mystery." <face palm> Oh baby girl. Chin up, shoulders back, not gonna cry, not gonna cry. Bwahahaha ?????

[Pixel]

30 minutes ago, Madding crowd said:

All of the red dresses was distracting. I think it is likely producer influenced for some unknown reason. I stand firm on my belief that the show provides all of the evening gowns and bikinis and the girls bring the rest. I know people say this isn't true, but keep watch when they show the bedrooms the girls sleep in and their luggage; nary a gown. And carrying with you 20 sparkly gowns would require a lot of hanging bags which we never see.

You could be right, but all the girls who have written books or blogs about the experience say they provide their own wardrobe, makeup, and hair styling. 

I think Vanessa looks a lot like Andi. I think Nick is going to keep her around a long time. I've always thought he never really got over Andi. 

[Lemons]

11 minutes ago, srpturtle80 said:

 

Finally, hated how the one girl's profession was listed as "law school graduate." And she was 30 years old. As an attorney this really bugged me. What does that mean? Assuming you went to law school immediately after college, what have you been doing for the past 5-ish years? Failing the bar exam?

geez, can you tell I had a crappy day? I'm a little cranky lol

A good amount of people don't go to law school immediately after under graduate.  Also, she might have gone  nights.  

I assume it means it's the last thing she has done and maybe hasn't passed the bar yet.  It's more informative than saying " unemployed"

[Superpole2000]

The first one out of the limos (Danielle L) has no clue about modesty. I like breasts, but come on. So many of the fully clothed women (not the dolphin) looked much more attractive to me. But I'm not the smarmy bachelor, so perhaps full exposure plays to Nick's preferences. One Night Stand Liz was also throwing it out there, so I guess that is indeed a Nick thing.

I can't believe I just complained about seeing breasts.

I was really into Danielle M with the wavy blonde hair and nervous/jittery syrup hands. Something about her (probably the nervousness) seemed genuine, which seems to be in short supply on this franchise. And she was clothed.

[Artsda]

How can an adult claim to have a nanny?  You have a servant. 

The neo-natal nurse reminds me of Whitney (Chris's choice). They even look alike.

Not sure if I trust Jade's friend. She could have contacted Nick over the past 9 months & choose to go on tv. 

[truthaboutluv]

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I think it is likely producer influenced for some unknown reason.

I think Nick has stated that red is his favorite color. I don't know if it's in general or his favorite color on a woman but I can definitely see the producers prodding a bunch of women to pick a red dress because it'll make them stand out, to essentially end up with exactly what happened. I'm sure they were hoping for more pettiness and cattiness from the women about it but for the most part, aside from some mild irritation (Rachel seemed the most irritated), everyone got over it. 

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I think Vanessa looks a lot like Andi. I think Nick is going to keep her around a long time. I've always thought he never really got over Andi. 

While I disagree with the bolded (I think Nick has more than moved on from whatever feelings he had for Andi), I can see a bit of resemblance but Vanessa's more beautiful in my opinion (Andi's grumpy cat mouth ruined her looks) and in just the little we saw tonight, seems much sweeter. Admittedly we have been fooled before by edits but she seemed very warm and loving in her introduction video.

I will say that I've always believed that Nick did really fall in love with Andi and was heartbroken when she didn't pick him, so I can see why you think he never got over her. It was Kaitlyn's season I didn't buy his feelings. I think he liked her well enough and they certainly liked having sex with each other but I never bought that he was truly in love with Kaitlyn.

Edited January 3, 2017 by truthaboutluv

[ByaNose]

50 minutes ago, Madding crowd said:

I wished I liked Nick more; I'm also from the Milwaukee area, went to the same college he did and am also a die hard Green Bay Packers fan. But I always find him very fake and smarmy. There were way too many women for me to remember names yet, but I liked the first impression rose lawyer, the cute nurse from Wisconsin and a couple others seemed ok. I can't imagine hookup Liz staying around. It seems like she has no interest in Nick but hooked up with him for a possible connection to the show. If he actually did want to call her and she wasn't interested, he should just send her packing.

All of the red dresses was distracting. I think it is likely producer influenced for some unknown reason. I stand firm on my belief that the show provides all of the evening gowns and bikinis and the girls bring the rest. I know people say this isn't true, but keep watch when they show the bedrooms the girls sleep in and their luggage; nary a gown. And carrying with you 20 sparkly gowns would require a lot of hanging bags which we never see. No idea why Nick kept shark/dolphin girl except maybe he needed to keep a few extra's for fodder. I thought the one girl who left who was wearing a gold glitter dress was very pretty and seemed nice. Its' kind of unfair. I always think the bachelor sends home the few girls he doesn't get to talk to. It makes sense that he would keep people he had a good conversation with, but he could be sending home some great girls who just aren't super pushy about getting time. 

Gold Glitter dress girl was HOT! Had she made it further she could have been a Bachelorette.

[Padma]

"I have a shark who thinks she's a dolphin. That's a concern." 

Lol, and Thank you!   Did she never see the "left shark / right shark" dance off? How can she pretend to be a dolphin expert when she can't tell the difference between a dolphin and a shark? Yes, it was bugging me--not just attention whoring, but stupidly so.

I thought Liz, the one night stand, deserved to come across as badly as she did. Nick handled it very well--"We had a fun, wild night. I asked for your number, you said no, and I respected it. Then for nine months you never asked Jade for my number, but you show up here."

Yeah, he pretty much pegged her as "wrong reasons"--also called her nicely on the "I didn't know you were a nice guy until BiP...well, no, of course I mean I knew it in our night together..." She should have gone home then, but I thought he did very well with it.

Catty comment: there are about 5 really bad nose jobs in this group.  Some of the conversations seemed mature. Some of the crude girls made me wonder....does that really work? (And on television?)   I thought Rachel was a great pick for the first impression rose, very consistent with what I'd think he'd like--fun, smart and kind of classy but unpretentious. Good choice! Good first episode.

[woodscommaelle]

2 hours ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

 Chris seems so dumb. 

He does. But in the most endearing way possible. He kind of seems just happy-go-lucky.

As a serious DCC Making The Team fan, I felt second-hand embarrassment for Jasmine. Yikes girl. Guess it's good you're no longer representing the team. 

Edited January 3, 2017 by woodscommaelle

[TomGirl]

Corrine looks like Tiffany Trump, which is not a compliment.  Vanessa reminds me of a young Andie McDowell.  There's a Courtney Robertson look-alike and a Shantel-the-mortician look-alike and even a Kaitlin Bristow look-alike.

Edited January 3, 2017 by TomGirl

[Christi]

Which one did he sleep with?  

Edited January 3, 2017 by Christi

[TomGirl]

Liz.

[gator12]

[Negritude]

If Corrine's vag is platinum, Liz's must be copper cause Nick barely remembered it.

[Armchair Critic]

LOL at Whitney's tweet!

Was that Vanessa that said she hates flowers? WTF

[huahaha]

53 minutes ago, Pixel said:

I think Vanessa looks a lot like Andi. I think Nick is going to keep her around a long time. I've always thought he never really got over Andi. 

I think Nick's type precedes Andi. Nick's sister mentioned that Andi was just his type after meeting her.

[Ivana Tinkle]

There was something very vacant about Liz that was oddly terrifying.  Like, I think she might be insane?

Danielle L. reminded me of Britt.

Corinne (to random contestant): Do I look good?

*two seconds later*

Corinne: I'm super confident.

[chocolatine]

1 hour ago, TomGirl said:

Vanessa reminds me of a young Andie McDowell.

Thank you! I knew she reminded me of someone, but I couldn't put my finger on who it was. She was refreshing in that she didn't have any noticeable plastic surgery, cosmetic dental work, or hair extensions (Liz, Corinne, Camel Girl, Raven, Danielle L., Nursing Student, I'm looking at all of you).

Nursing student who "literally had a heart attack" when she found out Nick would be the Bachelor - you picked the wrong career, honey.

I just couldn't with Nose Balls. Call me old-fashioned, but they make a person look like a cow.

Liz made herself look really bad by coming on the show, but to her credit, whenever she said "we had sex" in her voice overs, that was obviously spliced in from another conversation. We never see her face when she says it. She may have said it in a one-on-one conversation with Nick in a later episode, but TPTB are making it look like she's telling it to anyone who'll listen.

I don't particularly care for Nick and don't believe for a second that he's doing the show to "find love", but he's entertaining and some of the women have great train wreck potential, so I'll keep watching.

Oh, and Sean Lowe needs to shut up once and for all.

Edited January 3, 2017 by chocolatine

[P2C2E]

Corrinne has been nicknamed "jailbait" in this house because if she has a nanny she's clearly underage. Danielle L is "boobs out for Harambe". Josephine is "slutty nurse" which is solely based off of that brief shot where I swear she was wearing a Halloween outfit and looked nothing like a legitimate nurse. In contrast, Danielle M was wearing actual scrubs.

[Andromeda]

Liz -- clearly into him because he's now the Bachelor. Urgh.

Rachel -- good choice! I love that he is actually asking questions about their careers, such as what sort of law she practices. I can't imagine some of the past bachelors asking that. The same with the nurse -- I like her, too.

I think Nick is smarter than some of the past bachelors, for which I'm grateful.

Corinne is a spoiled brat, and I can't wait to see her go down in flames.

Vanessa doesn't like flowers?! Who doesn't like flowers? Other than that, she seems all right to me.

SHARK!! That is a SHARK!! (like Left Shark!) Dolphins have pointier noses, and no gills, because they have blowholes.

Edited January 3, 2017 by Andromeda

[chocolatine]

17 minutes ago, Andromeda said:

Vanessa doesn't like flowers?! Who doesn't like flowers?

I wonder if it's a smell thing for her. I don't like most cut flowers because they start smelling like death to me soon after they're cut. Must be some kind of olfactory disorder.

[Negritude]

24 minutes ago, chocolatine said:

I just couldn't with Nose Balls. Call me old-fashioned, but they make a person look like a cow.

Liz made herself look really bad by coming on the show, but to her credit, whenever she said "we had sex" in her voice overs, that was obviously spliced in from another conversation. We never see her face when she says it. She may have said it in a one-on-one conversation with Nick in a later episode, but TPTB are making it look like she's telling it to anyone who'll listen.

 

Oh God nose balls. She really thought she was special and edgy with that piercing. She's also the "one" (half of them probably do) with an ex-girlfriend. That might've meant something the 1st couple seasons but now, come on. You're bisexual with a nose ring, pick a number and get in line.

Liz, Liz, Liz...how mortified must she be tonight. If that is being edited in, those producers are shady af lol. 

Edited January 3, 2017 by Negritude

[flyingmontana]

I don't like receiving flowers as gifts because I don't like seeing them die and it seems like a waste... but I love flowers growing in the ground. I wonder if Vanessa meant that the way I would mean it.

It seems more than obvious to me that Nick kept Liz because the producers wanted her there for at least another week of drama/ratings. Her sexual "secret" guarantees that more humiliation, shame and bitterness will have us tuning in to see her brought down for her wrong-reasoned ways.

[chocolatine]

2 minutes ago, Negritude said:

Liz, Liz, Liz...how mortified must she be tonight. If that is being edited in, those producers are shady af lol. 

It is, and they are.