Ivana Tinkle

Daisy and Kelsey riding together to the Final Rose Ceremony was pretty baller. It's clear from seasons past these women develop very genuine friendships despite the weirdness of the situation so to see Daisy put her feelings aside and support Kelsey was so sweet. Happy for Kelsey and Joey, they both seem very smitten. I've been watching this show since season 1 and I think Joey has definitely been the best Bachelor this show has ever had and came off the show being as well liked as he was when he started; I can't recall that ever happening before. Jenn for Bachelorette? Meh. I knew it wouldn't be Maria, but I thought Lexi would have been a better option after Daisy. The "shot o'clock" seems producer driven, and I guarantee you will be the theme for her season. In fact, I predict her tagline will be something like "This time around, she's calling all the shots."

Oh, Maria. Constantly interrupting Jess while she was saying just how much you interrupt was absolute gold. I'm not sure I'd want her as Bachelorette because I feel like producers always go for the "sweetheart" or "broken-hearted but ready to find love" tropes for the lead and she just seems like more of a Bachelor in Paradise type to me. I'm always a bit cynical when the season villain(s) have a sudden change of heart and are super apologetic after seeing their bad behavior played back because it sometimes seems disingenuous to me, but Sydney/Lea were kinda tame compared to villains past so if they're now cool with Maria, whatevs. Rachel is a sweetheart, seeing her cry over the hate she's gotten was so sad. And honestly, the producers are so evil. Having Jesse feign shock and be like "Oh, it's been tough after the show? How so???" knowing full well what she went through is damn sadistic, but that's the Bachelor for you.

I'm pretty sure he asked who became suspicious of Phaedra Dan called her out during the round table but not who had their suspicions before he ever said anything.

I stopped watching around the 20th or 21st season, it's definitely been awhile.

Totally! I remember they showed Dan’s wife in season 14, her name is Chelsea and she definitely has a similar look to Parvati. So I guess he has a type lol.

Peter and Ekin-Su? Ugh, gag me. I wish she hadn't been sitting right behind CT/Trishelle because all I could focus on were her gigantic spherical breasts on display. They were mesmerizing, but in a gross way. I've read that Parvati is in a relationship with a woman and I genuinely don't know anything about her since I've never seen Survivor but I always felt there was a vibe between her and Dan during the show since it felt like they were ALWAYS around each other (even before she was a Traitor) and I got that again last night. Anyone else? Speaking of Dan, you did absolutely nothing to redeem yourself and, in fact, almost made yourself look worse. You did Phaedra dirty, admit it. I wish Andy would've asked everyone who suspected Phaedra BEFORE Dan threw her under the bus, not the other way around. I still feel like she got screwed. Finally, SHUT UP MJ.

Happy to see CT win, I've never seen him win a Challenge (not sure if he won one after I stopped watching) so it was nice to see him take it home. I'm completely dumbfounded as to why Trishelle voted for CT at the very end. It made no sense. I get being in that setting makes you overthink everything, but still. MJ, you did NOTHING. I didn't really see her forge relationships other than with the rest of the Bravo plastics. So for her to be mad that two players who've known each other for 20 years felt they trusted each other more than they trusted her (Trishelle's minor last minute lapse aside) was ridiculous and John's smackdown of her at the reunion was satisfying to watch.

I know this show is formulaic, but this hometowns episode nearly put me to sleep. All the girls say the same thing "Blah blah blah falling in love, blah blah, need my family to validate my feelings, blah blah, now I feel better and I see a future, blah." I've read that in some cases the houses shown aren't even the family home and have merely been staged to look as such. I get it, not everyone may live in a TV ready home but I actually would love for them to show a hometown date where, just once, they meet the family in a regular apartment and the couple stands outside for several minutes waiting to be buzzed in and it gets awkward because someone's in the shower and totally forgot what time they were stopping by. Also, if I were a lead I would get so sick of answering the same questions over and over again. All of the parents asked some version of "I know you have three other girls you're banging dating, how is my daughter different?" I wish someone would just be like "They're not, but I'm contractually obligated to keep them around until the end of the week", because I love how this show always makes it seem as if the Bachelor/ette's feelings for someone conveniently change when it comes time for the Rose Ceremony. And yet, here I sit, week after week.

Ugh, this season had such promise! How the hell did we get here? The convoy of Bravo plastics has destroyed what could have been an epic season. That being said, I am bummed Phaedra was banished despite the fact that it was inevitable at this point. She should be proud of herself though, she played a great game and I firmly believe she wouldn't have come under fire so consistently had it not been for Dan. It sucked to see her just give up but I think having to lie right to Sheree's face was the tipping point for her. I would hate to see Kate win. She was annoying last season and she's equally annoying this season. I agree it would suck to have a winner that started several weeks in. I haven't seen CT on my screen in some time (I don't really keep up with the new seasons of the Challenge) but I love seeing how far he's come. His adorable Bachelor-esque joke at breakfast is such a far cry from the CT I remember. Still, I've always had a soft spot for CT, so he is the only one I'm rooting for at this point.

Maria definitely got a little drunk on their date, but she’s still funny and refreshing. Agreed with others in that he seems to have fun with her and finds her sexy but doesn’t see it as a long term thing. Sad to see Lexi go, she seemed very mature and well spoken. And she used remiss! You never hear words like that on this show. I can’t believe we’re on week 6 and Joey is still as charming as ever. I feel like around this time the previous Bachelors lose their luster and we simultaneously start to hate them. Joey is super sweet though, and I’m really liking him as a Bachelor.

Oh SHUT UP, you congealed glob of skin and preservatives.

This legit made me snort laugh. Brilliant. Lea sucks, although I side eye the fact that there's always a new villain waiting in the wings to assume the position of the predecessor. Definitely seems producer driven.

You know, whenever I see stuff like this it makes me wonder if so many people misused a word that the people over at Webster's were finally just like "Oh for fuck's sake FINE, we'll add 'perspectivize' to the damn dictionary." (Although my computer doesn't like this word and keeps telling me to use perspectivism instead.)

Glad Sydney is gone, what a manipulative bitch. "Joey, it was awful! (sob) First, Maria tied me down to the dining room table and then she threatened to rip off my toenails one by one. She has been torturing me since the day we got here and I just need you to know that she might rip off YOUR toenails. And that is my truth." Also, in my experience people who feel the need to repeatedly clarify something is their "truth" are habitual liars. I thought Lea seemed sweet with how she handled the whole date card situation but it turns out she's just as stank as Sydney and uses made up words like "perspectivize".

Same! This was such a glorious episode and it definitely sucked not having a place to discuss it. Dan sure loves to do these dramatic, drawn out ploys doesn't he? His "game" at the round table was so reminiscent of the POV Nomination Roulette and Dan's Funeral from BB it was almost embarrassing to watch. Sometimes I forget Phaedra is an attorney, but HOLY SHIT she spanked Dan back to Michigan. Bye Dan, perhaps you should have stayed "retired". I definitely think Peter will accept the traitor role, and it will be interesting to see how he plays it now that he's basically the ringleader for his crew. I'm not sure when Peter grew a spine and turned off the button his mom was using to control his mind but I like this version of him so much better than Bachelor Peter.