Joy and Austin: This One Time At Family Camp

[Tasya]

His speech is really lacking for his age. I had to check to make sure they said he was turning 3 rather than 2. 

[Tikichick]

Considering the belief system he grew up in and the emphasis on boys being boys and girls being girls and expectations of  what manliness is, I am encouraged by the fact that Austin enthusiastically tells his child he loves him and gives him a big kiss, all on camera.   His belief system may be very unappealing to me, but I can't hate on openly expressing love for your child.

[Snow Fairy]

13 hours ago, DangerousMinds said:

And he’ll never learn anything with Joy as his teacher.

And a thought that came into my mind yesterday - those kids and their children, what on earth could Henry, Spurge, Gideon, Garret and the others learn their kids? They will be homeschooled by, well, idiotis. So what will they have to transfer to the next generation.

Or worse, Rod kids - what can Nurie and her sisters teach their children?

Michelle and Jim Bob went to school, they have an idea on how learning should be. Even Ben. But from there on, does it make sense?

[BigBingerBro]

[iwantcookies]

Carlin is always posing!

 

[awaken]

What on earth is there to catch up on?  They see each other all the time, flying back and forth. 

[emmawoodhouse]

38 minutes ago, iwantcookies said:

Carlin is always posing!

 

That's what poseurs do. 😁

[iwantcookies]

36 minutes ago, awaken said:

What on earth is there to catch up on?  They see each other all the time, flying back and forth. 

Carlin: awww my gawd which side is my best? Layla who? Aww right my wonderful prop is doing awkay. Mmm bye 👋 

Edited March 10, 2021 by iwantcookies

[Totally]

I have no idea what Joy and Carlin have in common that keeps them friends 

[Snow Fairy]

Jesus?

[skipnjump]

2 hours ago, Snow Fairy said:

Jesus?

and babies.

[GeeGolly]

3 hours ago, Totally said:

I have no idea what Joy and Carlin have in common that keeps them friends 

Maybe Carlin is just the sparkly version of Joy.

[Absolom]

Neither one will ever challenge the other mentally.  Life is all superficial.

[iwantcookies]

If Carlin was truly a best friend she’d give Joy a mini makeover! Just picturing Joy wearing sexy lingerie made me laugh uncontrollably. 

[luvbadtv]

13 hours ago, Totally said:

I have no idea what Joy and Carlin have in common that keeps them friends 

I've heard that people gravitate toward people with IQs similar to their own.  This tracks for these two.

[charmed1]

I never understood how any of these kids could call themselves “best friends.” On 19K&C they’d often talk about the girls being best friends with some other random kid from another fundy family. Anybody I was best friends with as a kid, lived nearby or we went to the same school. The Bates live in Tennessee. How often were Joy and Carlin even in the same room? Once or twice a year? I doubt cheapskate Jim Bob was letting Joy call her. Were they emailing each other? Exchanging instant messages? I guess that would essentially make them pen pals. I had a school-assigned pen pal in middle school who lived in another country, but I wouldn’t think to call her my best friend.

Edited March 12, 2021 by charmed1

[emmawoodhouse]

13 minutes ago, charmed1 said:

I never understood how any of these kids could call themselves “best friends.” On 19K&C they’d often talk about the girls being best friends with some other random kid from another fundy family. Anybody I was best friends with as a kid, lived nearby or we went to the same school. The Bates live in Tennessee. How often were Joy and Carlin even in the same room? Once or twice a year? I doubt cheapskate Jim Bob was letting Joy call her. Were they emailing each other? Exchanging instant messages? I guess that would essentially make them pen pals. I had a school-assigned pen pal in middle school who lived in another country, but I wouldn’t think to call her my best friend.

Who knows when Joy was even permitted a phone. I imagine all of her emails before that were screened by Jana or maybe even Mooch (what else does she do?).

[irisheyes]

I think there is a friendship of some substance there. Didn’t Carlin drop everything to come to Joy when she lost the baby?  That’s probably more than MOTY did. 

[Zella]

I don't think they have a normal human friendship like normal people do because, well, they're not normal, but I think they are probably closer than Joy is with many of her siblings, and they do seem to have a more genuine friendship than the rest of the family seems to maintain with "sweet friends." I don't think it's an either/or thing. I think their friendship can probably be built on a fairly superficial foundation but they're still genuinely fond of each other. 

40 minutes ago, charmed1 said:

I never understood how any of these kids could call themselves “best friends.” On 19K&C they’d often talk about the girls being best friends with some other random kid from another fundy family. Anybody I was best friends with as a kid, lived nearby or we went to the same school. The Bates live in Tennessee. How often were Joy and Carlin even in the same room? Once or twice a year? I doubt cheapskate Jim Bob was letting Joy call her. Were they emailing each other? Exchanging instant messages? I guess that would essentially make them pen pals. I had a school-assigned pen pal in middle school who lived in another country, but I wouldn’t think to call her my best friend.

The problem, though, is none of them have anything normal to compare it to, so I don't find it surprising that they consider themselves best friends, despite not really spending a lot of time with each other or actually being best friends. You didn't call your pen pal a best friend because you went to school and had friends like a normal kid, so you knew what an actual best friend was. The Duggars don't have that foundation. It's no different than other aspects of a dysfunctional family or upbringing in which you think your existence is normal until you leave home and realize it wasn't. [I didn't realize how batshit crazy parts of my childhood were until I went to college and people were like "What the hell?!" when I'd tell them stories. Until you have someone who is outside your bubble and can "what the hell" you, you can grow up in some pretty weird shit and never question it.]

The Duggars and other people like them isolate their children from those outside influences to prevent that. My guess is after having to call every single person your family hangs out with "sweet friends," the one person you randomly see who is kind of your age and you actually click with would instantly be your best friend. 

[Temperance]

Austin has two half siblings. His half-sister Rachel is having another baby. She has 5 kids so this is baby is number 6. It's a girl! Joy was posting the gender reveal on Instagram. 

Edited March 12, 2021 by Temperance

[QuinnInND]

9 hours ago, Zella said:

[I didn't realize how batshit crazy parts of my childhood were until I went to college and people were like "What the hell?!" when I'd tell them stories. Until you have someone who is outside your bubble and can "what the hell" you, you can grow up in some pretty weird shit and never question it.]

 

This!! 

I think they throw around the terms "best friend" "sweet friend" and "precious friend" interchangeably to mean "someone we know who shares our ridiculous beliefs." 

[rue721]

To be fair, I think Carlin and Joy are legitimately best friends, at least now as adults. They seem to care about each other, have fun together, make time for each other, all that nice close friend stuff. They have literally everything in common, so I don't find their closeness that surprising.

[GeeGolly]

I think Carlin has a better idea of what friendship is and Joy likely follows her lead. The Bates sisters seem to have actual friendships with each other. Friendships that occurred naturally and not forced pairings, made up by their mother.

Short of maybe her SsIL, Carlin is probably the closest friendship Joy will ever have - even if it is long distance.

[emma675]

I agree with y'all, I think Carlin and Joy are genuinely friends, as much as they can be in this religion/cult. I do think Carlin is the lead girl in their friendship and that she uses Joy to prop herself up, whether she realizes she's doing it or not. The pics of the two of them a few weeks ago on that weird pile of stones cemented that for me. Carlin was dolled up to the nines and posing like an influencer next to poor, slobby looking Joy. There is a definite hierarchy in their friendship and I wonder what would happen if Joy suddenly became the hot one?

[Future Cat Lady]

I would think Austin was her best friend because that's what they say everytime they get married. 

[NotthebadVictoria]

1 hour ago, emma675 said:

I agree with y'all, I think Carlin and Joy are genuinely friends, as much as they can be in this religion/cult. I do think Carlin is the lead girl in their friendship and that she uses Joy to prop herself up, whether she realizes she's doing it or not. The pics of the two of them a few weeks ago on that weird pile of stones cemented that for me. Carlin was dolled up to the nines and posing like an influencer next to poor, slobby looking Joy. There is a definite hierarchy in their friendship and I wonder what would happen if Joy suddenly became the hot one?

Judging by Joys appearance (weight, dress and general demeanor) I don’t think that would ever happen.

[Zella]

3 hours ago, NotthebadVictoria said:

Judging by Joys appearance (weight, dress and general demeanor) I don’t think that would ever happen.

I think Joy is actually way more naturally attractive than Carlin. She just is way more clueless about styling herself. 

[GeeGolly]

13 minutes ago, Zella said:

I think Joy is actually way more naturally attractive than Carlin. She just is way more clueless about styling herself. 

I'm not sure she cares.

One of my closest friends is very overweight, beautiful, make-up every moment, hair always done and very stylish. I'm skinny, pretty enough, bare-faced, unruly hair, and boho-ish. I have no desire to emulate her and she has no desire to emulate me. 

Joy seems content being Joy, frump and all. 

[Zella]

Just now, GeeGolly said:

I'm not sure she cares.

One of my closest friends is very overweight, beautiful, make-up every moment, hair always done and very stylish. I'm skinny, pretty enough, bare-faced, unruly hair, and boho-ish. I have no desire to emulate her and she has no desire to emulate me. 

Joy seems content being Joy, frump and all. 

Yeah she probably doesn't. TBH, I can't judge her for it--though those bangs and that dye job were tragic--because I also have never really given a shit about style or fashion. I don't wear makeup or style my hair and my wardrobe pretty much consists of funny (or weird or funny and weird) T-shirts and jeans. 

I was more objecting to the assumption from another poster that Carlin was obviously the hot one. She's the more polished-looking one, but I don't think that automatically makes her hot. Kind of like how Jessa was considered the hot one in their younger years, though I think she's the least attractive of the sisters in her age group. She's pretty enough, but she's no goddess. 

[rue721]

I think one of the reasons Joy can give a shit about hair and makeup is because she’s gorgeous! If she were naturally fugly, she’d probably have a complex about it and put a lot more effort into her looks. Wasn’t Carlin considered the “ugly duckling”? I think she’s very pretty, too, but she might be more insecure about her looks, hence the polish. 
 

Joy is looking dowdy with her homecut hair and ratty jean skirt, but honestly, so am I. Pandemic chic, y’all.

[emma675]

1 hour ago, Zella said:

I was more objecting to the assumption from another poster that Carlin was obviously the hot one. She's the more polished-looking one, but I don't think that automatically makes her hot.

Hey, that was me! 🤣 I actually think Joy is more naturally pretty than Carlin, although Carlin is pretty, too. The thing I noticed is that Carlin seems to care much more about looking polished and trendy than Joy does and it was very obvious in that pic of the two of them together. I just don't think Joy cares as much as Carlin does about clothes and makeup and style, but I think that's always been how she is. Part of me respects that and is glad Austin doesn't try to make her doll up. The petty part of me wishes she'd do it just once because I'd love to see Carlin's reaction. 

[Zella]

9 minutes ago, emma675 said:

Hey, that was me! 🤣 I actually think Joy is more naturally pretty than Carlin, although Carlin is pretty, too. The thing I noticed is that Carlin seems to care much more about looking polished and trendy than Joy does and it was very obvious in that pic of the two of them together. I just don't think Joy cares as much as Carlin does about clothes and makeup and style, but I think that's always been how she is. Part of me respects that and is glad Austin doesn't try to make her doll up. The petty part of me wishes she'd do it just once because I'd love to see Carlin's reaction. 

It wasn't you I was responding to! 🙂 I agree it would be pretty funny if she showed up to see Carlin all dazzled up just once. 😂

Edited March 13, 2021 by Zella

[BigBingerBro]

[jcbrown]

22 hours ago, BigBingerBro said:

I must disagree.

[irisheyes]

When compared to her brothers, Austin probably looks pretty good. 😂

[jcbrown]

25 minutes ago, irisheyes said:

When compared to her brothers, Austin probably looks pretty good. 😂

There are low bars and then there's that bar.

[iwantcookies]

Well Austin is cuter than David Rodrigues 🤷‍♀️

[ginger90]

 

Shilling magnetic eyelashes:

[GeeGolly]

18 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

 

Shilling magnetic eyelashes:

Oh dear. Is that much magnetic tar needed?

[MargeGunderson]

They are also ugly. Joy is not one I would take makeup or fashion advice from. She doesn’t care about either, which means this is all for the money.

Edited March 15, 2021 by MargeGunderson

[Snow Fairy]

She looks like Jinger in this photo

[Spazamanaz]

Evy is getting cuter. I can barely see the lashes with that thick black liner behind them. 

[libgirl2]

13 minutes ago, Spazamanaz said:

Evy is getting cuter. I can barely see the lashes with that thick black liner behind them. 

Joy's hair looks better though. 

Evy is a cutie. 

[DangerousMinds]

Really, Joy? We’re supposed to believe you’re interested in fake lashes???

[BigBingerBro]

Look at lil' Joy putting on makeup for those $$$ clicks

[iwantcookies]

Sexy modest lingerie is next! 

[JoanArc]

 Video of these two on vacation in Sarasota, maskLess. Indoors.

Dumb as stumps, and half is useful.

[ozziemom]

15 minutes ago, JoanArc said:

 Video of these two on vacation in Sarasota, maskLess. Indoors.

Dumb as stumps, and half is useful.

Ugh, I live just south of Sarasota, that is too close. 

[JoanArc]

Just now, ozziemom said:

Ugh, I live just south of Sarasota, that is too close. 

Link

[ozziemom]

2 minutes ago, JoanArc said:

Link

Seems like he was at UTC mall which is right off I-75 in Sarasota. Hope he enjoyed all the Florida spring break traffic, lol. Another reason we stay home.