libgirl2 February 19, 2021 Share February 19, 2021 On 2/17/2021 at 4:20 PM, doodlebug said: Come hang with the Catholics, Marge. We not only approve of drinking, we do it right up in the church! And under 21 years old too! 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6615005
iwantcookies February 19, 2021 Share February 19, 2021 11 hours ago, Joan of Argh said: Is there any possibility that Michelle was their babysitter and the dad was mowing her...lawn.... uhhhh......rug? Jim Bobs head just exploded! 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6615099
doodlebug February 19, 2021 Share February 19, 2021 On 2/18/2021 at 11:38 AM, rue721 said: These people have such twisted values, who the hell knows. According to them, drinking a beer is appalling, but repeatedly sexually assaulting children “happens in most families.” Austin could have been murdering puppies for shits and giggles while he was “rebelling,” but what would have shocked JB & Co is if he drank a shot afterwards, or skipped church that week to do it, and so that’s the part we’d hear about. I think he could have gotten up to awful stuff or he could have been doing stuff considered perfectly normal or even healthy in the mainstream — or both, honestly. Just impossible to know. The point is mostly that he did feel the need/desire to go “off script” and rebel, and then came back as the prodigal son. Who knows whether what he actually did when he went off the cult’s script was a big deal or not within a mainstream perspective, but it was apparently a big deal to him and within his little world. Recall that back before Josh's offenses became public, a lot of us speculated that his 'sin in the camp' meant he'd been caught making out with another teen. Because in Duggar world, that is even worse than fondling one's sisters. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6615109
QuinnInND February 19, 2021 Share February 19, 2021 38 minutes ago, doodlebug said: Recall that back before Josh's offenses became public, a lot of us speculated that his 'sin in the camp' meant he'd been caught making out with another teen. Because in Duggar world, that is even worse than fondling one's sisters. Or been caught masterbating 3 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6615180
BigBingerBro February 20, 2021 Share February 20, 2021 1 5 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6617332
QuinnInND February 21, 2021 Share February 21, 2021 3 hours ago, BigBingerBro said: Yeesh. That's an awful picture. 1 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6617625
Popular Post luvbadtv February 21, 2021 Popular Post Share February 21, 2021 3 hours ago, BigBingerBro said: #sayingsofaustin ? 35 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6617648
iwantcookies February 21, 2021 Share February 21, 2021 (edited) it’s Let’s take a pic *Stomps off angrily* Edited February 21, 2021 by iwantcookies 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6617755
iwantcookies February 21, 2021 Share February 21, 2021 Austin looks like he let out a big old fart and now he is relaxed 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6617758
Joan of Argh February 21, 2021 Share February 21, 2021 9 hours ago, BigBingerBro said: Joys hair is way too dark for her complexion, it completely washes her out and she looks anemic. 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6618048
Jeanne222 February 21, 2021 Share February 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, Joan of Argh said: Joys hair is way too dark for her complexion, it completely washes her out and she looks anemic. What's with these reality show people posting such terrible pictures? 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6618057
DangerousMinds February 21, 2021 Share February 21, 2021 10 hours ago, Joan of Argh said: Joys hair is way too dark for her complexion, it completely washes her out and she looks anemic. And she is still lying and saying she didn’t color it. 14 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6618400
galaxygirl76 February 21, 2021 Share February 21, 2021 11 hours ago, Joan of Argh said: Joys hair is way too dark for her complexion, it completely washes her out and she looks anemic. 25 minutes ago, DangerousMinds said: And she is still lying and saying she didn’t color it. I was gonna say that. Didn't she claim when she got those horrific bangs that she didn't dye her hair because that looks like dyed hair. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6618431
awaken February 21, 2021 Share February 21, 2021 1 hour ago, DangerousMinds said: And she is still lying and saying she didn’t color it. She said her hair was just wet, not dyed. 🙄 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6618464
floridamom February 21, 2021 Share February 21, 2021 In that photo posted above, Joy's hair is not wet....it is quite dry. She did, indeed, IMO color it. What a liar she can be. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6618641
iwantcookies February 21, 2021 Share February 21, 2021 Duggar lying 🤥 you don’t say. Lol Last name should be Luggar. 5 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6618648
BigBingerBro February 21, 2021 Share February 21, 2021 Let's face it, all the Duggar kids have been trained to lie from an early age. They haved no concept of truth vs lies 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6618699
LynneH February 21, 2021 Share February 21, 2021 What I see in this picture is two people who are relaxed and content with life and each other (at least at that particular moment). John David and Abbie seem that way to me as well in their pictures. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6618709
awaken February 21, 2021 Share February 21, 2021 1 hour ago, floridamom said: In that photo posted above, Joy's hair is not wet....it is quite dry. She did, indeed, IMO color it. What a liar she can be. And for what. It’s so true, but why does she bother lying about little things like this. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6618724
DangerousMinds February 21, 2021 Share February 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, awaken said: And for what. It’s so true, but why does she bother lying about little things like this. She learned from Jessa? 5 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6618727
Joan of Argh February 21, 2021 Share February 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, awaken said: And for what. It’s so true, but why does she bother lying about little things like this. That's what I'm trying to figure out... Why not just say that she wanted to try out a different color to see if she'd like it? I couldn't care less if she dyes her hair or decided to experiment with a darker color or any color for that matter.... Why on earth lie about it? When I was Joys age I tried different colors so did my sisters and friends and we'd laugh about it if the color was awful or not what we expected... Lying about it makes it seem kind of creepy. Edited February 21, 2021 by Joan of Argh Spelling 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6618788
Growsonwalls February 21, 2021 Share February 21, 2021 Wonder if Joy finds it immodest to color her hair? 3 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6618813
emma675 February 22, 2021 Share February 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Joan of Argh said: That's what I'm trying to figure out... Why not just say that she wanted to try out a different color to see if she'd like it? I couldn't care less if she dyes her hair or decided to experiment with a darker color or any color for that matter.... Why on earth lie about it? When I was Joys age I tried different colors so did my sisters and friends and we'd laugh about it if the color was awful or not what we expected... Lying about it makes it seem kind of creepy. Yeah, I don't get it either. Who cares if you color your hair or not? And I may be remembering it wrong, but I feel like Joy was pretty adamant that she didn't color it when someone commented on her new bangs. It went from light brown to almost black--natural hair can change color depending on the lighting, but it doesn't change that drastically. And now it's kind of a flat black, like a bad box color. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6618888
MargeGunderson February 22, 2021 Share February 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Growsonwalls said: Wonder if Joy finds it immodest to color her hair? If she does, then why in the world would she do it? 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6619027
BigBingerBro February 22, 2021 Share February 22, 2021 I mean she could be telling the truth and she has the kind of hair that gets sun-bleached in the warmer months and if cut in winter looks much darker. But it sure looks dyed to me! 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6619588
galaxygirl76 February 22, 2021 Share February 22, 2021 Joy claims it's the lightning, which honey, no. 1 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6619802
BitterApple February 22, 2021 Share February 22, 2021 It looks like cheap box dye. 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6619826
Zella February 22, 2021 Share February 22, 2021 1 hour ago, BigBingerBro said: I mean she could be telling the truth and she has the kind of hair that gets sun-bleached in the warmer months and if cut in winter looks much darker. But it sure looks dyed to me! I have that kind of hair naturally. My winter hair is about as dark as Joy's is now, but my summer hair still looks a lot darker than Joy's normal. So, yeah, I suspect it's dyed. Just in general, I don't really think any of the Duggars have what I would consider naturally very dark hair. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6620187
emmawoodhouse February 22, 2021 Share February 22, 2021 (edited) Yeah, Jessa's hair is probably the darkest, followed by Jeremiah and James. I'd put Joy's normal hair on the next tier with Jill and Smuggar. I think Joy colored her hair after seeing Jana darken hers. I thought Jana's look washed her out as well. Edited February 22, 2021 by emmawoodhouse 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6620200
BitterApple February 22, 2021 Share February 22, 2021 (edited) Apparently Joy liked a fan post criticizing Jill for airing the family's dirty laundry. Gold star for everyone who pegged Joy as one of the disapproving siblings: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9287885/Joy-Anna-Duggar-likes-fan-Instagram-post-saying-Jills-burning-bridges-not-Christian.html Edited February 22, 2021 by BitterApple 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6621359
Growsonwalls February 22, 2021 Share February 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, BitterApple said: Apparently Joy liked a fan post criticizing Jill for airing the family's dirty laundry. Gold star for everyone who pegged Joy as one of the disapproving siblings: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9287885/Joy-Anna-Duggar-likes-fan-Instagram-post-saying-Jills-burning-bridges-not-Christian.html Not surprised. I've noticed that Joy no longer seems to "like" any of Jill's posts anymore. Jessa, Jana, and Jinger (and Anna) all still interact with Jill on social media but Joy does not. 5 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6621374
crazy8s February 22, 2021 Share February 22, 2021 (edited) Joy says hey Jill how dare you take the money - oh wait, we got our house free shifted though grandma mary and the duggar family property/trust LLC ..... but let me judge you anyway Edited February 22, 2021 by crazy8s 2 19 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6621387
Growsonwalls February 22, 2021 Share February 22, 2021 Joy seems to have become rather hard and rigid ever since Evelyn was born. It's just all about being "purposeful" and improving her relationship with God. 15 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6621394
Tasya February 22, 2021 Share February 22, 2021 Totally pegged Joy as the disapprover and Jana as the "doesn't give a crap" one, despite others saying she would be the hard liner. I think Joy and Austin are likely the most "Husband's way goes no matter what" couple, and Austin seems extremely intolerant. 17 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6621469
Growsonwalls February 22, 2021 Share February 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Tasya said: Totally pegged Joy as the disapprover and Jana as the "doesn't give a crap" one, despite others saying she would be the hard liner. I think Joy and Austin are likely the most "Husband's way goes no matter what" couple, and Austin seems extremely intolerant. I think the older J-slaves are the ones who don't give a crap what Jill does as long as she's happy. I think no matter what happens they'll always have the bond of being 13 and charged with changing a million diapers and doing 20 loads of laundry. They probably have a somewhat cynical view of what being a Duggar really means. They might not leave the fundie life but they know it's not just never-ending amazingness. 2 16 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6621478
crazy8s February 22, 2021 Share February 22, 2021 this is a sad and hilarious old clip - joy was maybe the only one interested in changing the oil or changing a tire. the older girls knew it was fake fodder for the show 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6621522
Popular Post xwordfanatik February 23, 2021 Popular Post Share February 23, 2021 Way to judge your real mom, Joy. That holier-than-thou crap really pisses me off. 26 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6621711
Madtown February 23, 2021 Share February 23, 2021 Joy did an Insta-story last night. Today Gideon turns 3(Happy Birthday Gideon!). Unlike her sister, she was actually wrapping his present and she had balloons on the ceiling. No gifts every day of the week leading up to his birthday. 15 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6622696
Tikichick February 23, 2021 Share February 23, 2021 I wonder if some of the fuel behind Joy's disapproval is grief about losing Jill? Could be that Jill's marriage, leaving home and then being out of the country for periods of time hit Joy at a certain point of development and she's never truly dealt with it. This type of fracture in a relationship is not unusual in divorce cases, and in my experience frequently hits teen boys particularly hard, often leading to lots of problematic acting out. Those kinds of wounds fester, and we know Joy wouldn't have gotten any assistance or even attention in the wake of Jill's moving out -- unless you count added household duties, which never held Joy's interest in the first place. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6622808
MargeGunderson February 23, 2021 Share February 23, 2021 Joy is reacting similarly to how Michelle acted after she had a miscarriage/was told by the doctor it was because of evil birth control. Michelle went all out Gothard at that point, perhaps to make up for her perceived “sin.” I think Joy is doing the same after her stillbirth (apologies, I can’t remember the baby’s name), doubling down on ridged adherence to Gothardism. 6 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6622819
iwantcookies February 23, 2021 Share February 23, 2021 14 minutes ago, MargeGunderson said: Joy is reacting similarly to how Michelle acted after she had a miscarriage/was told by the doctor it was because of evil birth control. Michelle went all out Gothard at that point, perhaps to make up for her perceived “sin.” I think Joy is doing the same after her stillbirth (apologies, I can’t remember the baby’s name), doubling down on ridged adherence to Gothardism. Annabelle like the evil doll in the movies 1 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6622834
BitterApple February 23, 2021 Share February 23, 2021 2 hours ago, iwantcookies said: Annabelle like the evil doll in the movies That's all I think of when I hear that name. With regards to Joy, she's firmly entrenched in the cult mentality. If you're not one of them, you're against them. I think Proud Boy Austin's had a heavy hand in influencing this. 19 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6623063
Future Cat Lady February 23, 2021 Share February 23, 2021 5 hours ago, BitterApple said: That's all I think of when I hear that name. With regards to Joy, she's firmly entrenched in the cult mentality. If you're not one of them, you're against them. I think Proud Boy Austin's had a heavy hand in influencing this. I agree. Joy doesn't seem very bright and I think she just follows what Austin wants/thinks. I think Austin just become more radical because of the political situation in the U.S. 1 18 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6623702
madpsych78 February 24, 2021 Share February 24, 2021 How has Joy come off as more conservative than anyone else in their family? I mean, I get how she is more conservative than Jill and Amy, but that's about it. I think the rest of them (at least the adult children) are just as conservative as Joy. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6623770
Growsonwalls February 24, 2021 Share February 24, 2021 1 hour ago, madpsych78 said: How has Joy come off as more conservative than anyone else in their family? I mean, I get how she is more conservative than Jill and Amy, but that's about it. I think the rest of them (at least the adult children) are just as conservative as Joy. Well her extremely conservative siblings say she's the most conservative. So ... that says a lot about how conservative she is. 16 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6623896
emmawoodhouse February 24, 2021 Share February 24, 2021 Joystin got a fixer upper RV. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6625338
iwantcookies February 24, 2021 Share February 24, 2021 The kids are cuuuteee 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6625364
Tikichick February 24, 2021 Share February 24, 2021 (edited) The roads are empty because everyone's staying in due to ice, so that means pack up your little kids for a two and a half hour road trip?!?! ETA RV's are known for being nimble vehicles in dicey road conditions. Said no one ever! The list of things that come to mind when I think, what are the worst things to buy used would be small. So far the things I'd rank as worst to a used RV would be used underwear or a used portapotty. Edited February 24, 2021 by Tikichick 7 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6625366
QuinnInND February 24, 2021 Share February 24, 2021 Why in the world would they buy that... 🤦♀️ So odd. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6625389
3 is enough February 24, 2021 Share February 24, 2021 Storyline for the show. 2 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/202/#findComment-6625395
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