Joy and Austin: This One Time At Family Camp

[Nysha]

Poor Joy was one of the first kids handed off as a buddy to Jill. She probably got Michelle for a bit longer than the 6 months the younger children got, but Jill isn't that much older than her, so she was pretty much raised by a child. Michelle taught Jana, Jill, Jessa, and Jinger how to clean, cook, and parent at ages 6-10 and then pretty much gave up doing anything but being joyfully available, pregnant, and/or nursing. Rinse, lather, repeat. 

On top of that, she was surrounded by brothers and a bit of a tomboy until that magical age when she was "too old" to hang around her brothers and required to stay in the house and learn her rightful place in society. At that point, she was too young to hang around her older sisters and too old for her younger ones, and she was not allowed to be close to her brothers for fear she tempted them like she tempted Josh. Not exactly the best foundation for good self-esteem.

[galaxychaser]

Jeez 2 years married and almost 2 kids. By 3rd anniversary she will be pregnant again. I feel sorry for Joy. 

[FizzyPuff]

On 5/25/2019 at 10:17 PM, Snow Fairy said:

There are lots of girls

First glance at this picture I thought Carlin was trying to grab Whitney’s boobs and Whitney was pushing her away like what the hell are you doing, I was thinking whoa that’s not very appropriate, then I realised she was showing them all her ring 😀

On 5/27/2019 at 12:30 AM, drafan said:

Bad posture and the shame of an empty uterus.

Jana needs to leave for a day and not tell anyone where she is going, see how long they notice she’s gone.

On 5/27/2019 at 1:36 PM, ginger90 said:

austinandjoyforsyth

Happy 2nd Anniversary, Baby!❤️ It’s hard to believe that’s its already been two years since we said “I do”. I am so thankful for the strong man and the spiritual leader you are in my life! You are my anchor when my crazy waves of emotions seem to take over. You’re patience and unconditional love towards me is more than I deserve. I love doing life with you... our spontaneous adventures, dreaming of the future together, working together... You are the person that I want to share my best memories and my toughest trials with! 
I’m crazy about you, I love you OH. SOOO. MUCH and can’t wait to spend forever with you! 
Annddd.... I’m so excited about our anniversary trip coming up soon!!!💖💖 #twoyearstoforever#best2years #ilovemylife

“Doing life together” makes it sound like life is a game, very weird phrase.

Edited May 28, 2019 by Puffin

[Temperance]

On 5/27/2019 at 8:36 AM, ginger90 said:

I'm a little confused about when they posted this, but it looks like DFO posted this on 9:39 PM May 26th. By that time, it was not only Grandma Mary's birthday, and Joy's wedding anniversary, but it was also Ivy Jane Seewald's birthday. I bet the "May 26th is one of our favorite days!" is a wink to little Ivy. 

Edited May 28, 2019 by Temperance

[latetotheparty]

4 hours ago, Puffin said:

First glance at this picture I thought Carlin was trying to grab Whitney’s boobs and Whitney was pushing her away like what the hell are you doing, I was thinking whoa that’s not very appropriate, then I realised she was showing them all her ring 😀

Jana needs to leave for a day and not tell anyone where she is going, see how long they notice she’s gone.

“Doing life together” makes it sound like life is a game, very weird phrase.

Or a prison sentence. 

[Churchhoney]

On 5/27/2019 at 4:44 PM, farmgal4 said:

She looked beautiful.  Much better than she looked at her own wedding IMO.

Definitely. I expect that was a high-stress situation for her whereas this was just fun. 

[Jynnan tonnix]

1 hour ago, latetotheparty said:

Or a prison sentence. 

That was my first thought! 

I can kind of get behind the phrasing, though. It feels like a sweet sentiment  - like "doing all the fun things together for the rest of our lives" sort of thing.

[MamaMax]

On 5/28/2019 at 6:26 PM, latetotheparty said:

Or a prison sentence. 

....without the possibility of parole.

[QuinnInND]

Joy cradling her bump. Like Lauren. Must be a fundie thing. 

[Bayarea4]

59 minutes ago, QuinnInND said:

Joy cradling her bump. Like Lauren. Must be a fundie thing. 

My theory is that it's their way of saying, "Hey, look. I'm not fat. I'm pregnant!" Because God forbid that a fundy wife gain weight.

[Heathen]

3 minutes ago, Bayarea4 said:

My theory is that it's their way of saying, "Hey, look. I'm not fat. I'm pregnant!"

I think you're right. 

Speaking of weight, Carlin looks to have lost too much. She looks like a bobblehead. And her husband looks about forty. 

[Sew Sumi]

I can't believe that a fake Joy account has almost 150k followers! Are leghumpers really that stupid?

[Heathen]

4 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

I can't believe that a fake Joy account has almost 150k followers! Are leghumpers really that stupid?

Is that a rhetorical question? 

[jcbrown]

Austin couldn't put on a tie and some better shoes? 

[babyhouseman]

18 minutes ago, jcbrown said:

Austin couldn't put on a tie and some better shoes? 

His fashions leave a lot to be desired. He wore a hospital cap over his regular cap in the delivery room.

[xwordfanatik]

Austin is the polar opposite of JereMe, dress-wise.  I'd rather have a more casual-looking guy than a GQ metrosexual.  That said, for a wedding, Austin should have a tie and nicer shoes.  YMMV

[Temperance]

A different shirt (solid color) would be more formal imo. 

[Temperance]

Then again Austin was a groomsman in the least formal wedding I've ever seen that was still a church wedding. This was before he married Joy. Christopher Maxwell took the photos; they're still on Christopher Maxwell's wedding photography site. The groomsman and groom wore button down shirts and jeans. The groom wore a checked shirt. The bridesmaids, including Austin sister's Meagan, wore pink skirts, denim jackets, and cowboy boots.  

[Churchhoney]

9 minutes ago, Temperance said:

Then again Austin was a groomsman in the least formal wedding I've ever seen that was still a church wedding. This was before he married Joy. Christopher Maxwell took the photos; they're still on Christopher Maxwell's wedding photography site. The groomsman and groom wore button down shirts and jeans. The groom wore a checked shirt. The bridesmaids, including Austin sister's Meagan, wore pink skirts, denim jackets, and cowboy boots.  

Wow. Thanks for pointing that out. That's one of the cutest wedding albums I've ever seen. It made me happy just looking through it. 

[Ohiopirate02]

2 hours ago, jcbrown said:

Austin couldn't put on a tie and some better shoes? 

I know.  I grew up in a home where the men dress casually 98% of the time, but they have some dress clothes for weddings, funerals etc.  Austin doesn't need multiple ties, suits, fancy shoes but he should have at least one of each that he takes care of.  Even with their strict gender roles,  shoeshine should still be Austin's responsibility. 

[Zella]

Honestly, I know a lot of good old boy rednecks who have no suits or ties. Most of the men in my family fall in this category. Now, they have dressier shirts they wear and nice slacks and they will shine their shoes, and they look nice. But you're never getting them into a tie or a suit, not for church or a wedding or funeral or anything. 

I don't think I've ever seen my grandfather, dad, or brother in a suit. It would be downright bizarre and, actually, unfathomable to me to see them in one. My late uncle is the only close male relative I can think of who ever wore a suit, but he also had more white collar jobs than the rest of the family. 

So, for that reason, I'd give Austin a pass if he'd just found some basic dress slacks and shoes and polished the damn things. Agreed a solid color dress shirt would have been a better choice, too, but if he'd had the other stuff, I'd have let that slide, too. 

Edited June 1, 2019 by Zella

[Scarlett45]

11 hours ago, Zella said:

Honestly, I know a lot of good old boy rednecks who have no suits or ties. Most of the men in my family fall in this category. Now, they have dressier shirts they wear and nice slacks and they will shine their shoes, and they look nice. But you're never getting them into a tie or a suit, not for church or a wedding or funeral or anything. 

I don't think I've ever seen my grandfather, dad, or brother in a suit. It would be downright bizarre and, actually, unfathomable to me to see them in one. My late uncle is the only close male relative I can think of who ever wore a suit, but he also had more white collar jobs than the rest of the family. 

So, for that reason, I'd give Austin a pass if he'd just found some basic dress slacks and shoes and polished the damn things. Agreed a solid color dress shirt would have been a better choice, too, but if he'd had the other stuff, I'd have let that slide, too. 

I think this this was a more formal wedding, and his own wife put so much effort into dressing up Austin should’ve dressed up as well. 

The patriarchy at its finest- women have to spend tons of energy and money to look attractive for men, and men get to just wear “whatever”. 

If this was a casual backyard wedding, I’d let it go, but to me Austin looks like he’s going to brunch!!

[BitterApple]

1 hour ago, Scarlett45 said:

I think this this was a more formal wedding, and his own wife put so much effort into dressing up Austin should’ve dressed up as well. 

The patriarchy at its finest- women have to spend tons of energy and money to look attractive for men, and men get to just wear “whatever”. 

If this was a casual backyard wedding, I’d let it go, but to me Austin looks like he’s going to brunch!!

I agree. Austin didn't even need to do anything spectacular. Just thrown on a nice shirt and a better pair of shoes. Given that these people attend church and weddings on a weekly basis, you'd think there'd be one decent dress outfit in his arsenal.

Edited June 1, 2019 by BitterApple

[MamaMax]

This is such a church-y bunch, I would think if he was ever going to dress up a little it would be for church.

[MsJamieDornan]

On 5/31/2019 at 4:55 PM, jcbrown said:

Austin couldn't put on a tie and some better shoes?

He doesnt have better shoes. No Duggar has better shoes.

[Temperance]

It was an outdoor wedding, and not a church wedding. 

[luvmylabs]

On 5/31/2019 at 1:17 PM, QuinnInND said:

Joy cradling her bump. Like Lauren. Must be a fundie thing. 

Almost every picture of a pregnant Meghan Markle showed her cradling her baby bump.  Not sure if it's fundy or not.

[Barb23]

The more I look at that picture, the more Joy reminds of a preschooler who needs to go to the bathroom....rather quickly.

ETA:  well maybe being pregnant she does need to go. 

Edited June 2, 2019 by Barb23

[MichaelaRae]

I think the whole bump cradle came from the celebrity photo culture. I feel like I first noticed it with Hollywood celebs doing the red carpet thing, and definitely doing it as they knew they would be photographed and didn't want the dress they were wearing to look like a tent. (aka "I'm not FAT, I'M PREGNANT! HONEST!!" and also because Hollywood pregnancy got super trendy as a gossip topic). I think it really trickled down from there and now everyone seems to have just subconsciously absorbed it - have a baby, cradle the bump.

[Natalie68]

On 5/31/2019 at 1:17 PM, QuinnInND said:

Joy cradling her bump. Like Lauren. Must be a fundie thing. 

I think it is in really bad taste that she is cradling her bump.  This isn't a pregnancy photo shoot, this is Carlin's wedding photo.  We know you are pregnant Joy.  Quit hogging the spotlight!  It isn't about YOU!!!

[ginger90]

[Annb67]

On 5/31/2019 at 5:46 PM, Sew Sumi said:

I can't believe that a fake Joy account has almost 150k followers! Are leghumpers really that stupid?

Uh...do you really want an answer? 😆

[FizzyPuff]

On 6/4/2019 at 12:53 AM, ginger90 said:

Has Gideon got a wet suit on over his clothes? The outfit looks very puffy.

[3 is enough]

8 minutes ago, Puffin said:

Has Gideon got a wet suit on over his clothes? The outfit looks very puffy.

Could he have some kind of flotation device under the wet suit?  Odd choice I know but these are the Duggars...

[truebluesmoky]

They make suits like that for toddlers, with the flotation device built into the torso.

[jukie]

I think the suit is similar to one of these, where the flotation is part of the suit.   I am a little impressed the child is in something that is giving him sun protection (sleeve)

https://www.swimoutlet.com/p/swimline-lycra-floating-swim-trainer-44361/?q=1&richrelevance&PersonalizedClickCP&generic_page.rr1

[3 is enough]

As far as Austin's clothing choice is concerned, from what I have seen, fundie weddings are kind of hit or miss in that respect.  Some people come dressed up, and others do not.

  I also have to wonder if all 500 guests actually stayed for the meal.  It was a nice venue, so you know they weren't paying $20 a plate for the meal.  And seriously, I don't think Gil has that kind of money.

[Sew Sumi]

A family friend catered it.

[EmeraldGirl]

8 hours ago, truebluesmoky said:

They make suits like that for toddlers, with the flotation device built into the torso.

My son had this years ago. It’s like an inner tube around your waist with pants attached. Loved it! It looks like they put a shirt over it. 

They are strangely still my favorite couple  Austin has a career that should last him many years, and Joy seems happy and gung ho for anything. She’s all about being the pregnant barefoot gal with a drill and an RV. Plus I always kinda loved her for telling Josiah she loved him on his wedding day.  If these people love each other they sure never say it. At least on camera.

[Lunera]

Joy did an ad for JustFab and it looks like she filmed it in the Duggar comunal closet.

[3 is enough]

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/counting-on-fans-accuse-joy-anna-duggar-of-stealing-carlin-bates-thunder-at-her-own-wedding.html/

Well that didn't take very long...

[louannems]

16 hours ago, EmeraldGirl said:

My son had this years ago. It’s like an inner tube around your waist with pants attached. Loved it! It looks like they put a shirt over it. 

They are strangely still my favorite couple  Austin has a career that should last him many years, and Joy seems happy and gung ho for anything. She’s all about being the pregnant barefoot gal with a drill and an RV. Plus I always kinda loved her for telling Josiah she loved him on his wedding day.  If these people love each other they sure never say it. At least on camera.

Joy has bought two pairs of brown sandals for us to snark at.  Yay?

[Churchhoney]

21 minutes ago, louannems said:

Joy has bought two pairs of brown sandals for us to snark at.  Yay?

I wonder if they're so devoted to these because Jesus probably wore brown sandals.....

Seriously. I wouldn't put this level of "thinking" past the Duggars.

(I also think they probably figure that brown sandals, unlike, say, black or white or red sandals, are in the color that can be either dressed up or dressed down....I'm pretty sure at least some brown sandals can't be dressed up. But that's just me.)

[Minivanessa]

My theory is that Bill Gothard liked brown sandals best and they've just kept wearing them out of habit by now.

[Westiepeach]

1 hour ago, Jeeves said:

My theory is that Bill Gothard liked brown sandals best and they've just kept wearing them out of habit by now.

Ewww.

[EmeraldGirl]

Hmm, now that I think about where are the sneakers? Vans? They make all kinds of cute styles and prices now. Although we have seen Jinger upgrade to cute boots. 

[Barb23]

6 hours ago, EmeraldGirl said:

Hmm, now that I think about where are the sneakers? Vans? They make all kinds of cute styles and prices now. Although we have seen Jinger upgrade to cute boots. 

You are right. There are so many cute styles out there. I just bought a pair of slip on Skechers for the summer.  I'm just glad the Duggar gals have graduated from the clunky athletic type tennis shoes they wore when they were teens & a lot of Fundy women still like to wear. I'm thinking of the Maxwell women esp DIL Anna Marie who likes to wear the home made frumpers too.

[EmeraldGirl]

I love Sketchers! I have them in a bunch of colors. This gal doesn’t go for walks in flip flops! I swear all the fundie men must have a foot fetish. So strange for so many women to latch onto sandals like they do in any weather or any situation. 

[Christina87]

Late to the party, but I can't help but laugh at clueless Austin and his fashion choices. I feel like a lot of men, if left to their own devices, would be likely to do the same. 😂😂😂

My dad usually dresses casually around the home, but has always, always worn a suit to church.  Every single week. Most of the men in our church do wear suits, but a lot of them dress differently when it's really hot. Not my dad! I actually admire that, because he's not trying to get attention, like Jeremy would, but because he really respects the situation. I also wonder if it has something to do with the fact that he doesn't wear a suit to work, so he doesn't mind wearing one on Sundays (he usually wears polos to work under his lab coat).

Plus, my family is on the formal side. We don't go out to eat or anything without looking decent (like a dress, or nice shirt / polo / slacks). For birthdays and something like Mother's Day, we wear some of our nicest work or church type clothes, and for thanksgiving and Easter, or a wedding, we usually buy new clothes that are really sharp. It's just kind of the culture in our family. 

So you can imagine my surprise when...

My boyfriend showed up for thanskgiving in a camo piggly wiggly shirt and jeans!!!

It was our first thanksgiving together, and I had invited him to our house. He works at a bank, and normally wore oxford type shirts, so I thought he'd dress like he normally does. He said that he was going to wear his piggly wiggly shirt and I clearly thought it was a JOKE, so I said okay! Then he shows up, when the rest of the extended family is dressed in their finest! My aunt even asked if he worked at the piggly wiggly, because she wasn't sure why he would wear the shirt otherwise! We told them what happened and everyone laughed, by my parents were still shocked! However, when I celebrated thanksgiving with his family, or any other holiday, they were super casual, so I couldn't fault that. It surprised me that some people would wear nice clothes to work, but not for thanksgiving! His family also was made up of working professionals, definitely not hillbillies, but every family has different norms, and I came to respect that!

also, another boyfriend REALLY embarrassed me with his choice of clothing. He lived in the same town as my aunt, so I was taking him to meet her. He chose to wear a t-shirt that said, "hello, my name is sexy." My aunt would not have understood that, and would have found it vulgar! It was a cheap, thin white shirt that was way too tight on him, and the top looked like a tuxedo, with a name tag. It looked like something a middle schooler would find at Spencer's and think was hilarious. On the other hand, I was wearing a flowery skirt and nice top. I laughed and informed him he wasn't wearing that, and he got SOOOO pissy!!! He started whining about how funny it was, and how I was being controlling by "making him dress up." I told him another t-shirt would be fine, but he wasn't about to visit a woman in her sixties in that getup! Suffice it to say, that relationship was very short lived. 

So it doesn't shock me that Austin doesn't have a sense of style, if dressing up isn't the norm in his family, and Joy's not the type to care, anyway. However, it seems like most people would realize they're on tv, and care about that! Hahahaha I laughed soooo hard when he wore the cap in the delivery room. Poor boy has a lot to learn!

Edited June 8, 2019 by Christina87

[JocelynCavanaugh]

The bump cradle is everywhere and it’s always obnoxious, IMO. I generally find it weird to caress oneself in public. 

I don’t follow those other people but that bride is simply stunning. What a great example of how to be effortlessly modest. You don’t have to Frankenstein six different dresses together to broadcast that no normal gown meets your impeccable standards. The silhouette is flattering without being provocative, and the design is cohesive, almost as though one person executed it and didn’t rip pieces off of other garments in her tacky boutique or something.