BigBingerBro November 20, 2021 Share November 20, 2021 Did they ever actually clean the at the TTH. It seems they "straightened things up" and put away clutter. They once showed one of the howlers trying to find a spelling book and he finally found it buried in a spare room literally filled with boxes and other assorted crap they just threw in there to get it out of the view of the cameras. I have a feeling that Grandma Mary might have done some actually cleaning and perhaps they hired a cleaning crew to come in pre-filming on occasion. Other than that I doubt any of the kids had any actual experience in keeping a home clean, thus the frequent posts where their homes look like wrecks. 17 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7129658
Zella November 20, 2021 Share November 20, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, BigBingerBro said: Did they ever actually clean the at the TTH. It seems they "straightened things up" and put away clutter. They once showed one of the howlers trying to find a spelling book and he finally found it buried in a spare room literally filled with boxes and other assorted crap they just threw in there to get it out of the view of the cameras. I have a feeling that Grandma Mary might have done some actually cleaning and perhaps they hired a cleaning crew to come in pre-filming on occasion. Other than that I doubt any of the kids had any actual experience in keeping a home clean, thus the frequent posts where their homes look like wrecks. Yeah just based on what I see on their social media, I don't think any of them actually know how to cook or clean, which indicates to me that it is a systemic issue in the family and that nobody actually took the time to teach them. I am not a domestic goddess myself, but there are basic standards of cleanliness and housekeeping norms that they seem entirely innocent of. I've always just assumed they BS'd their way through their assigned jurisdictions without much adult guidance. Edited November 20, 2021 by Zella 19 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7129663
ozziemom November 20, 2021 Share November 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Zella said: Yeah just based on what I see on their social media, I don't think any of them actually know how to cook or clean, which indicates to me that it is a systemic issue in the family and that nobody actually took the time to teach them. I am not a domestic goddess myself, but there are basic standards of cleanliness and housekeeping norms that they seem entirely innocent of. I've always just assumed they BS'd their way through their assigned jurisdictions without much adult guidance. Speaking from experience with kids BS’ing their way through chores, the girls probably were never in a rush to finish cos there’s always another chore. And we know Meechelle was too busy with Boob or her newest Buddy to actually supervise. Jana was most likely in charge back when she was 10 or 11. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7129670
Zella November 20, 2021 Share November 20, 2021 Just now, ozziemom said: Speaking from experience with kids BS’ing their way through chores, the girls probably were never in a rush to finish cos there’s always another chore. And we know Meechelle was too busy with Boob or her newest Buddy to actually supervise. Jana was most likely in charge back when she was 10 or 11. Yeah and I think that explains stuff like Joy being unbothered by dirt on her feet when she's dressing for a date. It's like something a little kid would do when left to their own devices. 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7129672
Scarlett45 November 20, 2021 Share November 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Zella said: Yes exactly. This has come up with Jessa too. But being a slob is not an innate symptom of depression. It's the change in behavior that is. If somebody is a really tidy person who suddenly can't be bothered to do basic housekeeping, that's a huge red flag. Always being shit at housekeeping out of ignorance or indifference is quite different. Yes this is true. We’ve discussed before how the Duggar girls weren’t given any of the skills typical stay at home wives and mothers are given (cooking, cleaning, event planning etc). The TTH was never the pinnacle of cleanliness, and given that Joy went on a date with Austin with her feet PITCH BLACK, I would not be surprised if her home was constantly a mess. Some people are better housekeepers than others, and some care more than others. Joy strikes me as someone who doesn’t care much about keeping a tidy home. 19 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7129809
Zella November 20, 2021 Share November 20, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said: Yes this is true. We’ve discussed before how the Duggar girls weren’t given any of the skills typical stay at home wives and mothers are given (cooking, cleaning, event planning etc). The TTH was never the pinnacle of cleanliness, and given that Joy went on a date with Austin with her feet PITCH BLACK, I would not be surprised if her home was constantly a mess. Some people are better housekeepers than others, and some care more than others. Joy strikes me as someone who doesn’t care much about keeping a tidy home. Yes Joy strikes me as really disinterested and apathetic about a lot of things. I imagine it's a combo of her personality and her upbringing. I personally have no problem with Joy not appearing to be interested in fashion--I'm the same way--but the feet thing makes me think she is possibly pretty apathetic about hygiene too. I imagine that nobody was particularly taking the time to teach her those things, and her personality makes her not particularly bothered by it. I wouldn't necessarily rule out that Joy may be struggling from depression or that she's under a lot of stress she has a hard time coping with--a lot of her posts seem a bit overwhelmed to me ever since she's had the second baby, and I know that can be a hectic transition for many moms--but I really don't think the state of her house is indicative of that in the same way it would be for another person who has demonstrated more normal housekeeping standards in the past. The posts where she seems to be trying to force herself to be more optimistic and, well, joyful are what I notice, though they don't mean anything on their own either. Edited November 20, 2021 by Zella 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7129826
floridamom November 20, 2021 Share November 20, 2021 I believe it would have been TLC to have hired the cleaning crew to come in and clean the filthy TTH. Grandma Mary was tight with a buck....she would have never PAID anyone to go over there and clean the house...Let TLC pick up the tab, not Grandma. That lady knew how to make a penny bleed. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7129999
GeeGolly November 21, 2021 Share November 21, 2021 This may be a little TMI, but I'm guessing its pretty universal - I wonder if Michelle told the soon-to-be-marrieds that intimacy is much nicer when both bodies are clean. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7130078
Cinnabon November 21, 2021 Share November 21, 2021 1 hour ago, GeeGolly said: This may be a little TMI, but I'm guessing its pretty universal - I wonder if Michelle told the soon-to-be-marrieds that intimacy is much nicer when both bodies are clean. They probably didn’t care either way for the first 6 months or so 🤣 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7130156
Nysha November 21, 2021 Share November 21, 2021 Joy can be a poor housekeeper and still struggle with depression/stress that keeps her from doing all but the bare minimum. Plus, Joy was in the first round of buddies. I'm not sure when the system started but Jill is only 6 years older than Joy. I doubt her own life skills were very well developed when she was tasked with raising her little sister. She was raised with clutter, chaos, and extremely low cleanliness standards, so it's really not that surprising that her own aren't any better than what she was taught growing up. Especially if Austin's indifferent to the mess or never steps in to help. One of the reasons Jill learned to keep a neat house is because Derek had higher standards than the Duggars and he was willing to do chores around the house. 20 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7131010
GeeGolly November 21, 2021 Share November 21, 2021 Are we sure any of the Duggar sisters are neater than the others? Or do they each need to learn their own lesson on what not to post on IG? 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7131071
Westiepeach November 21, 2021 Share November 21, 2021 22 hours ago, GeeGolly said: This may be a little TMI, but I'm guessing its pretty universal - I wonder if Michelle told the soon-to-be-marrieds that intimacy is much nicer when both bodies are clean. Didn’t MEchelle just tell the girls “it doesn’t take that long”? 1 4 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7131206
irisheyes November 22, 2021 Share November 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Westiepeach said: Didn’t MEchelle just tell the girls “it doesn’t take that long”? To be fair, it probably didn’t. 15 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7131840
Dimi1 November 23, 2021 Share November 23, 2021 On 11/21/2021 at 2:05 PM, GeeGolly said: Are we sure any of the Duggar sisters are neater than the others? Or do they each need to learn their own lesson on what not to post on IG? I know...the worst was Jessa's recent one of IVY...dirty nose , unkempt hair, shirt on inside out and the house a wreck in the background...complete with over turned chairs...totally oblivious ....sheesh... 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7133863
GeeGolly November 23, 2021 Share November 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Dimi1 said: I know...the worst was Jessa's recent one of IVY...dirty nose , unkempt hair, shirt on inside out and the house a wreck in the background...complete with over turned chairs...totally oblivious ....sheesh... I guess I missed that one. Jessa's house has looked pretty good since the days of Diaper Mountain, when I think she learned her lesson to at least pick up before posting, but her house is still often grimy. Jill learned her lesson from comments made about her housekeeping skills back when they lived in the apartment, but IMO she makes sure to only post clean shots now, except when including pics of her garage, yard and "guest" room, which are all quite messy. Joy is a little different than her sisters though. She may not care much about what folks think. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7134352
riverblue22 November 23, 2021 Share November 23, 2021 My husband is getting over a cold that fortunately I didn't get. His covid tests were negative. I doubt any Duggars would test for covid until they had to go to the ER. 1 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7134447
BigBingerBro November 24, 2021 Share November 24, 2021 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7137465
Ijustwantsomechips November 24, 2021 Share November 24, 2021 So your baby’s diapered ass and dirty feet are on the counters as you prepare to cook? 🤢 1 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7137561
crazycatlady58 November 24, 2021 Share November 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, Ijustwantsomechips said: So your baby’s diapered ass and dirty feet are on the counters as you prepare to cook? 🤢 I am more concerned about the baby being right in front of a plug and handing moma a knife. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7137579
MargeGunderson November 25, 2021 Share November 25, 2021 I’m concerned about the giant storage tub of Chex mix behind the baby. That’s not a food safe container! (And I bet it wasn’t washed first). 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7137592
crazy8s November 25, 2021 Share November 25, 2021 they are at someone's house in Texas for thanksgiving with the Forsyth fam. Joy had a bunch of stories on instagram about their drive and the kids being there with a bunch of cousins. that would probably explain the giant thing of chex. 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7137639
cmr2014 November 25, 2021 Share November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, BigBingerBro said: This ridiculous tub of chex mix reminds me of Jill's early cooking posts. They seem to be completely incapable of 1) scaling an recipe to a normal size and 2) understanding why you might want to scale a recipe to a normal size. What does a family of four (with two toddlers no less) need with literally GALLONS of chex mix? I think it might be some sort of baby take-along snack since there appear to be Cheerios in the mix, but the same thing applies. Tupperware does not keep food fresh eternally. Plus, with that much air in the container, it's probably pretty unpleasant eating even now. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7137644
SMama November 25, 2021 Share November 25, 2021 45 minutes ago, crazycatlady58 said: I am more concerned about the baby being right in front of a plug and handing moma a knife. FWIW it looks like the knife cover. 2 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7137647
galaxygirl76 November 25, 2021 Share November 25, 2021 58 minutes ago, crazy8s said: they are at someone's house in Texas for thanksgiving with the Forsyth fam. Joy had a bunch of stories on instagram about their drive and the kids being there with a bunch of cousins. that would probably explain the giant thing of chex. That diaper wearing kid with her dirty feet sitting on someone else's counter where food is actively being prepared is somehow even worse than this picture already was 🤢 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7137948
SMama November 25, 2021 Share November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, crazy8s said: they are at someone's house in Texas for thanksgiving with the Forsyth fam. Joy had a bunch of stories on instagram about their drive and the kids being there with a bunch of cousins. that would probably explain the giant thing of chex. Joy explained that they rented the house via Vrbo and every family chipped in. 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7138003
Cinnabon November 25, 2021 Share November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, crazy8s said: they are at someone's house in Texas for thanksgiving with the Forsyth fam. Joy had a bunch of stories on instagram about their drive and the kids being there with a bunch of cousins. that would probably explain the giant thing of chex. Weren’t they all just sick? Texas, here come some more superspreaders! 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7138005
ginger90 November 25, 2021 Share November 25, 2021 2 hours ago, SMama said: FWIW it looks like the knife cover. It is, I saw it in the video. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7138510
iwantcookies November 25, 2021 Share November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Cinnabon said: Weren’t they all just sick? Texas, here come some more superspreaders! Oh boy. So everyone in the vacation home will be sick! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7138519
Churchhoney November 25, 2021 Share November 25, 2021 3 hours ago, Ijustwantsomechips said: So your baby’s diapered ass and dirty feet are on the counters as you prepare to cook? 🤢 3 hours ago, crazycatlady58 said: I am more concerned about the baby being right in front of a plug and handing moma a knife. All SOP at the TTH, guys. 😁 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7138537
emmawoodhouse November 25, 2021 Share November 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, Churchhoney said: All SOP at the TTH, guys. 😁 And a new tradition is being started with the Forsyths. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7138545
Popular Post GeeGolly November 25, 2021 Popular Post Share November 25, 2021 Anytime you use a rental, wipe down EVERYTHING because you'll never know if a Duggar was there before you. 👣👶🏽 18 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7138884
BigBingerBro November 25, 2021 Share November 25, 2021 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7138885
Cinnabon November 25, 2021 Share November 25, 2021 Women, Joy. Women. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7139084
galaxygirl76 November 25, 2021 Share November 25, 2021 Just the 'ladies' though, no men to be found because of course not. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7139184
dargosmydaddy November 25, 2021 Share November 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, galaxygirl76 said: Just the 'ladies' though, no men to be found because of course not. Joy should check out her own family's post, where several of her brothers appear to be (*gasp*) involved in the cooking. Maybe Jana went on strike? 4 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7139190
emmawoodhouse November 25, 2021 Share November 25, 2021 Forsyth family portrait. As usual, Austin couldn't be bothered to take off his hat. 🙄 https://www.instagram.com/p/CWtoprfpC5q/?utm_medium=copy_link 2 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7139472
SMama November 25, 2021 Share November 25, 2021 20 minutes ago, emmawoodhouse said: Forsyth family portrait. As usual, Austin couldn't be bothered to take off his hat. 🙄 https://www.instagram.com/p/CWtoprfpC5q/?utm_medium=copy_link On the IG story Gideon is riding a bike with training wheels for the first time and doing great. Once again Joy couldn’t be bothered to put shoes on Gideon, or Evy who was walking around. The other kids were wearing shoes. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7139502
BigBingerBro November 25, 2021 Share November 25, 2021 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7139545
P2C2E November 26, 2021 Share November 26, 2021 That's actually a really great picture of both of them. They both look happy. It's a nice composition. The hat doesn't bother me. 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7139918
Cinnabon November 26, 2021 Share November 26, 2021 7 hours ago, BigBingerBro said: In a few more years, he’s going to look like a cast member from “Deliverance.” 15 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7139930
BigBingerBro November 27, 2021 Share November 27, 2021 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7141140
Westiepeach November 27, 2021 Share November 27, 2021 13 minutes ago, BigBingerBro said: “Cheery” Limeades? 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7141159
MargeGunderson November 27, 2021 Share November 27, 2021 I suppose we should be happy it’s not “chairy.” 17 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7141539
iwantcookies November 27, 2021 Share November 27, 2021 For them to be cheery there should be alcohol in the drinks… I’d need a cheery limeade to spend time with Joy and Jaustin 😂 16 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7141546
crazycatlady58 November 27, 2021 Share November 27, 2021 9 hours ago, BigBingerBro said: I don't understand what is fancy about this. 1 1 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7141641
Gemma Violet November 27, 2021 Share November 27, 2021 (edited) I read an article about a year ago that Cherry Limeade is the most popular drink at Sonic. I tried it and it's really good. Have had a few since then. Austin's beard definitely needs a trim. Edited November 28, 2021 by Gemma Violet 1 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7141659
emmawoodhouse November 28, 2021 Share November 28, 2021 Maybe Austin is doing No Shave November? Eh, doubt it. They don't strike me as having much of a social conscience. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7141730
Zella November 28, 2021 Share November 28, 2021 Honestly I know a lot of guys who do No-Shave November without it being for any cause. It just turns into a contest to see who in their friend group has the best beard. 2 2 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7141745
LilJen November 28, 2021 Share November 28, 2021 On 11/25/2021 at 4:06 PM, emmawoodhouse said: Forsyth family portrait. As usual, Austin couldn't be bothered to take off his hat. 🙄 https://www.instagram.com/p/CWtoprfpC5q/?utm_medium=copy_link At least it’s not a LAWSON BATES (tm) hat. For a second there, I worried that it might be. 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/227/#findComment-7142145
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