zoomama February 13, 2018 Share February 13, 2018 notice her badge? it says joy dugger. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4056162
DragonFaerie February 13, 2018 Share February 13, 2018 1 minute ago, zoomama said: notice her badge? it says joy dugger. And Austin's says Guest, hmmm. Maybe with the used car lot the Dugger's got the invite? 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4056173
flyingdi February 13, 2018 Share February 13, 2018 Maybe it says Joy Duggar and guest because her father has an account there that they are using? I don't know. Just guessing. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4056262
ChiCricket February 13, 2018 Share February 13, 2018 On 1/16/2018 at 6:17 PM, Westiepeach said: Ok. Forgive me for my ignorance ... but if it was JD’s birthday “party,” ... um, shouldn’t Jana have been there as well? Since they are twins and all ... My immediate thought to this was "they're not conjoined twins, for pity sakes!" I'm not even a twin, but my sister was born on my third birthday. I was never allowed to celebrate my birthday alone...it was always a joint party and a shared cake. Oops..guess that's still a sore spot with me, and I'm 65 years old. Topic? Let the adult twins have their own damn "party" if they want to. ? 15 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4056303
Sew Sumi February 13, 2018 Share February 13, 2018 Jana was out of the country on their birthday, so there's that. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4056336
Christina87 February 13, 2018 Share February 13, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Kokapetl said: Hard to conceal a birth, it’s also sort of criminal. And some hillbilly would have leaked it. They went thirteen years without anyone leaking Josh's molestation secret, even though a lot of people knew about it! I'd put nothing past them. Edited February 13, 2018 by Christina87 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4056346
GeeGolly February 13, 2018 Share February 13, 2018 You have to registrar with car auctions and pay a yearly fee in order to purchase cars there, so Joy was probably registered as a Duggar and that's the way the name tag prints out. More auctions are tightening up on who can go into the lanes during bidding hence the driver/guest name tag on Austin. Cars drive slowly through the lanes for hours - not a place for a pregnant woman to be, as I'm guessing inhaling car exhaust is not healthy for the unborn baby. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4056373
ginger90 February 13, 2018 Share February 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Lunera said: So, Joy's due date is the 22nd. Austin's tag says 2/13 so not an old picture. Do they read here? I JUST commented on how pictures they post aren’t necessarily current. Spooky! 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4056450
Madtown February 13, 2018 Share February 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Lunera said: I can't even imagine this being my life at 18 frickin' years old.... 18 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4056459
Temperance February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 42 minutes ago, Madtown said: I can't even imagine this being my life at 18 frickin' years old.... She's 20, but the concept still holds. 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4056554
BitterApple February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 Joy looks miserable and exhausted. I can't imagine standing for hours at a crowded, noisy car auction while hugely pregnant, but I guess we all have our own versions of "fun". 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4056564
babyhouseman February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 4 hours ago, Lunera said: So, Joy's due date is the 22nd. Austin's tag says 2/13 so not an old picture. Is she trying to prove she didn't get pregnant before the wedding? Maybe it's a fake belly. lol Just joking. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4056642
BetyBee February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, babyhouseman said: Is she trying to prove she didn't get pregnant before the wedding? Maybe it's a fake belly. lol Just joking. Lol, Babyhouseman. Joy isn't a good enough actress to fake how tired she looks. Poor kid. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4056654
riverblue22 February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 These days Joy is probably happy working alongside the new hubby, just like she was a happy tomboy playing with her brothers. Wait until she has three little ones and has to stay home all day and be the little housewife while Austin does the important men's work. I don't see cooking, cleaning, and childcare a recipe for happiness for Joy. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4056685
Barb23 February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 4 hours ago, ChiCricket said: My immediate thought to this was "they're not conjoined twins, for pity sakes!" I'm not even a twin, but my sister was born on my third birthday. I was never allowed to celebrate my birthday alone...it was always a joint party and a shared cake. Oops..guess that's still a sore spot with me, and I'm 65 years old. Topic? Let the adult twins have their own damn "party" if they want to. ? I guess I feel differently but understand since you & your sister shared the same birthday. I was my sister's birthday present when she was 5. I was born a day before her birthday. Even tho we shared a family party, we each had our own birthday celebration which usually consisted of inviting a friend to the movies, nothing big. I really can't imagine what it would be like not celebrating with each other, even 55 years later, almost 56. My sister is my everything now that my health isn't great. Well I do have to add my sister wasn't thrilled I was born a day before her when we kids. She liked being the first birthday of the year in our family. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4057028
Jynnan tonnix February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 Oddly, as big as Joy looked early on in her pregnancy, she doesn't actually look a whole lot bigger here...I keep comparing her to my daughter who is due about a month after she is. My daughter was barely showing up until she got close to six months, but now the "bump" is inflating like a beachball by the day, it seems, whereas Joy was looking pretty big before even getting into her second trimester, but on this photo she doesn't appear to have that big forward-facing bump that one would expect on someone who is ready to pop. In fact, she doesn't look much different than some women might who have recently given birth but gained quite a bit of weight in the process... I know every mother, and every pregnancy is unique and how one woman carries has nothing to do with another, but there's just SUCH a difference in this case... 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4057071
Temperance February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 Joy looks a little like Kristen Stewart in that picture. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4057601
MsJamieDornan February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 Geez, someone buy the girl a better bra! 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4057629
andromeda331 February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 11 hours ago, ChiCricket said: My immediate thought to this was "they're not conjoined twins, for pity sakes!" I'm not even a twin, but my sister was born on my third birthday. I was never allowed to celebrate my birthday alone...it was always a joint party and a shared cake. Oops..guess that's still a sore spot with me, and I'm 65 years old. Topic? Let the adult twins have their own damn "party" if they want to. ? My mom would agree with you. My mom's birthday was the day after her brother's and they always had to share a birthday party. Their parents loved it and thought it was so much fun and so cool their birthdays were so close. My mom and her brother both hated it. They didn't want to share, he didn't want his little sister's friends at his birthday party, and she didn't want his friends at her birthday party, and could never agree on an activity for their birthday party because they always wanted different things. They could never understand why they couldn't have their own party a week a part or something. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4057635
Marigold February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 Joy looks real tired. She looks good under the tired, though. Austin looks rather peppy. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4057917
Triple P February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 4 hours ago, andromeda331 said: My mom would agree with you. My mom's birthday was the day after her brother's and they always had to share a birthday party. Their parents loved it and thought it was so much fun and so cool their birthdays were so close. My mom and her brother both hated it. They didn't want to share, he didn't want his little sister's friends at his birthday party, and she didn't want his friends at her birthday party, and could never agree on an activity for their birthday party because they always wanted different things. They could never understand why they couldn't have their own party a week a part or something. One of my close friends is a twin and she told me her parents always made separate cakes for her and her sister and made whatever they wanted for dinner on their birthday, even if it meant making two completely different meals. They had joint parties when they were younger, but as they got older, they would do different activities with friends instead of a party, like one might choose roller skating and the other swimming. My friend says that she really appreciated this because as identical twins, they were so frequently lumped together. Now that i I have identical twin daughters, I have done the same thing for them. They will be 13 in two weeks. One wants to go see "A Wrinkle in Time", which is perfect because it comes out after their birthday, and the other daughter hasn't decided what she wants to do yet. Wouldn't it be so precious and neat if Joy's baby is born today? 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4058026
JoanArc February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 Quote Wouldn't it be so precious and neat if Joy's baby is born today? Valentimes Forsyth? 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4058029
louannems February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 My sister was born on Valentine's Day with a head full of hair. After the nurse cleaned her up, she presented her to my mom with a cute red bow in her hair and said, "Here's your Valentine!". But my mom had five C-sections and she planned all but the first date. I was born on my Grandma and my aunt's (and Princess Di's) birthdays. I agree that Joy doesn't look much bigger than her first trimester! She must really have been bloated then! 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4058122
saylubee February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 23 hours ago, ginger90 said: No clue when she’s actually due, but keep in mind pictures they take are not always posted right away. I still want to know why the house tour was removed. I bet it’s something fairly innocent like TLC is planning on featuring the renovation as Joy and Austin’s storyline this season and didn’t want it “spoiled” by the Instagram video. Austin seems like a creep, but outside of privacy concerns that the Duggars have never really cared about, there aren’t really any other reasons to pull the video. Joy looks like she’s bounded in by some heavy duty maternity pants. Earlier in the pregnancy she didn’t seem like she was wearing anything that restricted the belly. Now she is. She’s also got the look like the baby is sitting more up and down vs back towards the spine. Hopefully it’s all fluid and she’s not popping out a 10 pound baby at home. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4058708
Mollie February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 23 hours ago, ginger90 said: I still want to know why the house tour was removed. The house tour video is still on Ellie's blog. You can watch it here: http://www.duggarfamilyblog.com/2018/01/tour-joy-and-austins-house.html 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4058770
Triple P February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 4 hours ago, JoanArc said: Valentimes Forsyth? Yes but it will be spelled Valintymes. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4058797
flyingdi February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 Is it odd that Joy seems to be the only Duggar so far not joking about twins or triplets? Curious, discuss among yourselves! 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4058949
Sew Sumi February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 (edited) IMO, she's carrying too small for twins. Edited February 14, 2018 by Sew Sumi 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4058967
GeeGolly February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 21 minutes ago, flyingdi said: Is it odd that Joy seems to be the only Duggar so far not joking about twins or triplets? Curious, discuss among yourselves! Because she missed the Marketing Exploitation lesson from Jessa at the School of the Dining Room Table? 17 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4059023
xwordfanatik February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 11 hours ago, MsJamieDornan said: Geez, someone buy the girl a better bra! Just think how much bigger her boobage will be when she has the kid, and is breastfeeding. I speak from experience. My D cup bra probably was an H cup when my daughter was nursing. Back in the early 80's, it was really hard to find bras for huge boobs. None of the nursing bras available then, fit well. I agree that Joy looks very tired in the photo. To think that all she has to look forward to, is endless babies, makes me sad for her. I don't believe she'll get any help from Mr. Headship. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4059201
DragonFaerie February 14, 2018 Share February 14, 2018 So, Joy is about to pop any day now. Jinger and Kendra are both pregnant. Jessa may or may not also be preggers. There is only ONE Jana. She can only be a doola, house cleaner, nanny, shopper, and chef to only so many folks. So if she helps Joy, while still running TTH, at some point she can't help Joy, Jinger - in Texas, no less, Kendra and possibly Jessa and RUN TTH. The woman HAS to sleep at some point. So it will be interesting to see if and when Austin, Jeremy, Joe and Ben step up and take care of their wives and new born babies without help from her. If not, someone buy Jana some good whiskey or vodka and don't tell the Boob and Mullet. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4059220
Caracoa1 February 15, 2018 Share February 15, 2018 It's mid February and Joy is due any day now with her first child....I already predict she will be pregnant with #2 by the end of 2018. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4059729
GeeGolly February 15, 2018 Share February 15, 2018 7 minutes ago, Caracoa1 said: It's mid February and Joy is due any day now with her first child....I already predict she will be pregnant with #2 by the end of 2018. I think both Alyssa and Erin Bates are pregnant with their 3rd. They'll have 3 under 3 years old. Jessa could possibly be in that race too. I'm curious as to which way Austin and Joy will lean - his family with 2 kids or hers with 19. Do Fundies who aren't Quiverfull use birth control? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4059789
Temperance February 15, 2018 Share February 15, 2018 5 hours ago, GeeGolly said: I think both Alyssa and Erin Bates are pregnant with their 3rd. They'll have 3 under 3 years old. Jessa could possibly be in that race too. I'm curious as to which way Austin and Joy will lean - his family with 2 kids or hers with 19. Do Fundies who aren't Quiverfull use birth control? Neither the Duggars nor the Bates believe in birth control. IBLP is anti-birth control. IBLP, under Gothard, recommended shorter breast feeding periods and being joyfully available, and other things that would maximize the chance of conceiving. Quiverfull, the non-denominal and non-headed movement, follows much of this. The Duggars and Bates kids were brought up that birth control is the work of the devil. For those raised with that idea, it can very hard to leave behind that mindset. It will haunt them for a long time. (I wasn't raised like this, but I'm familiar with people who were). I tend to think the Bates and the Duggars married their kids off to people who will carry on this mindset (with likely exception of Jeremy Vuolo). A lot may have to do with Austin's parents. It's possible they got married older and their small family was the result of leaving it up to God, in which case they may want dozens of grandchildren. If they were hoping to have a smaller family, then maybe they will pass on these beliefs to their son. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4060764
Barb23 February 15, 2018 Share February 15, 2018 16 hours ago, flyingdi said: Is it odd that Joy seems to be the only Duggar so far not joking about twins or triplets? Curious, discuss among yourselves! Or adoption! 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4060987
JoanArc February 15, 2018 Share February 15, 2018 6 hours ago, Temperance said: non-headed movement Ostensibly non-headed. It's headed. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4061050
Lunera February 15, 2018 Share February 15, 2018 Jessa has mentioned that she wants to breastfeed Henry for 2 years and that she wanted to do the same with Spurgeon but he weaned early. I believe she's doing this because she knows that exclusively breastfeeding is a form of bc and she wants her kids spaced out as much as she can. I can see Joy and Austin turning out exactly like JB and Michelle, where she stops breastfeeding early in order to start making a new blessing. The first baby will get handed over to Jana, of course. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4061547
Nysha February 15, 2018 Share February 15, 2018 Johannah is 12 and Jennifer is 10. Surely they're old enough to become Sister-Aunt-Moms. I don't see Jim Bob & Michelle allowing Jana to leave to the compound to help with the grandbabies for longer than a day or two. Those boys aren't going to clean up after themselves and I'm sure just keeping Josie from licking the light sockets and electrical outlets is enough to keep Johannah, Jennifer, and Jordyn busy when Jana's gone. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4061623
Lunera February 15, 2018 Share February 15, 2018 Their first Valentine's day and already 9 months pregnant. 20 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4061972
ShaNaeNae February 15, 2018 Share February 15, 2018 I like how they've got to show off their belly in each picture. They rarely just pose and let the belly stick where it may. They've always got to rest their hand under it or on top to make sure everyone knows there's a baby in there. It makes me sad looking at her. We just saw her a pre-teen a few years ago and now she's a child bride knocked up. I like how they've got to show off their belly in each picture. They rarely just pose and let the belly stick where it may. They've always got to rest their hand under it or on top to make sure everyone knows there's a baby in there. It makes me sad looking at her. We just saw her a pre-teen a few years ago and now she's a child bride knocked up. 16 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4061988
GeeGolly February 15, 2018 Share February 15, 2018 Each of these couples began exploring each other's bodies on the wedding night and within a year the wives gave birth. It must have been like having sex with a new partner every few months for the guys. Not one of them would be able to pick their wives' body out of a line-up in its normal state. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4062075
floridamom February 15, 2018 Share February 15, 2018 Is it me? Or is Joy huge? Gosh, she never 'showed' like that before. (Love Austin's filthy boots.) 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4062305
DragonFaerie February 15, 2018 Share February 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Lunera said: She actually said she loves him - as opposed to most of her married sisters posts. She looks nice, but I hope if Austin took her out, he did NOT go in paint splattered boots and a flannel shirt, untucked at that. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4062388
PikaScrewChu February 15, 2018 Share February 15, 2018 On 2/14/2018 at 5:29 AM, MsJamieDornan said: Geez, someone buy the girl a better bra! I don't think I've ever seen a picture of Joy wearing a properly fitted bra. I always assumed she got the J'slaves hand-me-down bras which were too small and probably stretched out. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4062585
JoanArc February 16, 2018 Share February 16, 2018 4 hours ago, GeeGolly said: Each of these couples began exploring each other's bodies on the wedding night and within a year the wives gave birth. It must have been like having sex with a new partner every few months for the guys. Not one of them would be able to pick their wives' body out of a line-up in its normal state. Assuming they pay much attention to the woman's body in the first place. These people believe the clitoris doesn't exist. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4062751
BetyBee February 16, 2018 Share February 16, 2018 I actually do like Austin's shoes, if only because they show that Joy got a man who actually works! 21 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4062764
MsJamieDornan February 16, 2018 Share February 16, 2018 5 hours ago, PikaScrewChu said: I always assumed she got the J'slaves hand-me-down bras which were too small and probably stretched out. That's so sad ! 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4063473
Nysha February 16, 2018 Share February 16, 2018 She's probably never had a good fitting bra and has no idea why she should spend good money on one. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4065303
Ohiopirate02 February 16, 2018 Share February 16, 2018 14 minutes ago, Nysha said: She's probably never had a good fitting bra and has no idea why she should spend good money on one. Yes. I don't see Mr. Buy-used-save-the-difference would ever allow the money to be spent on properly fitted bras for all the women in the family. Also, where would they go in Arkansas to get fitted correctly? I'm in NC and don't know where to go to actually get fitted correctly. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4065349
DragonFaerie February 16, 2018 Share February 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said: Yes. I don't see Mr. Buy-used-save-the-difference would ever allow the money to be spent on properly fitted bras for all the women in the family. Also, where would they go in Arkansas to get fitted correctly? I'm in NC and don't know where to go to actually get fitted correctly. My brother, as a single dad, took his daughters an hour away to the nearest Victoria's Secret and had the girls fitted properly and told him their sizes so he could buy them bras when he went shopping. The girls were also vocal enough and comfortable enough with their dad to tell him when the bras began to get tight or be uncomfortable. Now we KNOW that Boob would NEVER allow the girls into a Victoria's Secret, nor would he probably allow them to find a youtube or other website that describes how to probably fit a bra, so I'm pretty sure they are all out of luck. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/79/#findComment-4065371
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