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Tough crowd!  She's wearing modern shoes with closed toes, pants, and a shirt that literally calls back to her family's ridiculous rules and there are still 35 things wrong with what she's doing. 

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That's okay. He's forgotten it a few times himself. 

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3 hours ago, lookeyloo said:

And eggs are now considered very healthy.  

Eggs are healthy and extremely economical. If they're happy eating a frittata or scrambled eggs a few nights a week, that's a huge grocery savings (and goes towards explaining how they can be so well dressed-they may choose to be frugal in other areas).

Also, healthy or not, if you get between me and my eggs I will cut you. I also will automatically like JinJer a bit if they're the same way. 

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louannems

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Jill and Jeremy have a fancy, expensive expresso machine,  and an expensive water filtration system.

In my newlywed days, we had the cheapest Mr. Coffee and drank from the tap.  (Still do). That dinky church with the rotting window frames cannot provide him with much income, if any at all.  TLC money, for sure.

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27 minutes ago, Mollie said:

That picture shows the kitchen inside Jeremy's church, not the home where they live.

 

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Someone needs to share with Jill that it’s okay to shut your mouth in pictures. Every GD post is like she’s trying to get a shot of her tonsils. I hope it gives her wrinkles. 

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Marigold

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It seems they attended Jeremy's church?

Jeremy, Jinger and JD are all in traditional church clothes.  Jill and Derick look super casual.  Jeans?   I realize they were traveling but they had nice clothes for the wedding. 

Wonder if that ticked Jeremy off, ya know, like a little respect issue there?  Maybe I'm over reading but I did notice it. 

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xwordfanatik

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22 hours ago, Future Cat Lady said:

He's not married, what the heck would he post about? Also, I don't think anyone wants to see him post some bare-chested selfie from his bathroom. 

Oh, I don't know.  I have a 50 year old bachelor friend that posts about his vacation trips to Spain, Ireland, etc.  

Maybe just to let any friends know he's alive, or to like his friend's posts once in a while?  I agree, though, no one would probably want to view his pasty-white doughy bod.  Might scare off any potential courting females.

bigskygirl

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1. The expression Jinger has on her face in the kitchen picture makes me want to slap her also.

2. The Duggars do not know the true meaning of respect even if the dictionary came up and slap them along side the head.

3. I thought JD was a great catch. No bites or he is not interested. I am sure JB is working on it.

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Churchhoney

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1 hour ago, FakeJoshDuggar said:

Someone needs to share with Jill that it’s okay to shut your mouth in pictures. Every GD post is like she’s trying to get a shot of her tonsils. I hope it gives her wrinkles. 

Actually, both their expressions there make me think of performing seals.

Jill's is more obvious and we're very used to seeing her fly-catching look. But Jingle's strained and putting on something "for the camera," too, I think. Makes me wonder whether they're not just conditioned to pretty habitually be performing seals.

Maybe this is what happens to you if you've spent most of your life being in a cult that tells you to have a smiling countenance no matter what and then you're required to pretend your life is a holy fairyland for reality TeeVee. To me it's sort of as if some kind of phony baloney "I'm having fun" look is just their default position for the camera most of the time. It's been both their "faith" and their "job" for as long as they can remember, so it's just reflex y now, mostly. 

They may get over it someday. But old habits that you were forced to have are damn hard to break. It probably hasn't even occurred to them yet that those expressions aren't absolutely normal and absolutely relaxed. Even though they're really evidence that they're uptight as hell in the pictures. 

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2 minutes ago, Marigold said:

For a fundie girl, JD seems to be a decent guy.  I liked when he appeared sincerely mad and disgusted by Josh. Prior to that, i never noticed him very much.

I often wonder if JD was attracted to Anna which made him seem more upset and angry over the cheating and porn watching. Maybe JD is wanting a girl like Anna instead of a girl like his sisters or his mother.

Marigold

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I don't think Jinger and Jill are besties.  I don't think they hate each other but I can't see that these two couples are close. I bet Jeremy can't stand Derick and that's the root of the bigger issue. 

Jinger probably tried to make the best of it and smiled like Jill wanted her to. 

1 minute ago, bigskygirl said:

I often wonder if JD was attracted to Anna which made him seem more upset and angry over the cheating and porn watching. Maybe JD is wanting a girl like Anna instead of a girl like his sisters or his mother.

Or maybe Anna and JD are good friends?  Their personalities would kinda go together...I could see a friendship happening. JD probably thought Anna deserved much better. And she did. 

I could see JD wanting a girl like Anna also.  

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On 1/29/2018 at 12:36 PM, ginger90 said:

Last minute surprise visit......only certain people could get away with that around here!

Right???!!!  I have a cousin in Ohio (I am CA) who told me she was going to surprise us for Christmas had she gotten some $ she was waiting for.  I love her but man, I would have been pretty upset.  You don't just 'drop in'!  In theory it seems like a good idea to surprise someone because you love each other blah, blah, blah but the reality of it is your surprise visit could be really bad due to timing (and for us, we were having a record breaking fire).  Plus, she is a handful and I need time to prep myself!  And time to clean, get food together, etc.  What if financially it is a hard time for people to accept guests?  I am in the always NO camp for surprises like that.  

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40 minutes ago, bigskygirl said:

1. The expression Jinger has on her face in the kitchen picture makes me want to slap her also.

2. The Duggars do not know the true meaning of respect even if the dictionary came up and slap them along side the head.

3. I thought JD was a great catch. No bites or he is not interested. I am sure JB is working on it.

Jinger's expression bothers me too. It seems very "mean girl." It reminds me of the cool girl at school who is forced to be photographed with the loser, and kind of half-asses a smile in a fake, "I didn't really want to take this picture and I want the whole world to know it" kind of way. I'm sure if bestie Jessa had held up the camera and said, "selfie time!" Jing would have been over there in seconds pushing her face against Jessa's and grinning. Because it's Jill, she keeps doing what she's doing and gives an aggrieved look that sorta kinda passes for a smile, but implies she's being forced to take this picture against her will. Jill probably held the camera up and expected Jinger to walk over to her, but jing left her hanging. Then Jill is the uncool girl who doesn't realize Jinger is embarrassed to be in the picture and posts it. 

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Natalie68

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23 hours ago, Future Cat Lady said:

He's not married, what the heck would he post about? Also, I don't think anyone wants to see him post some bare-chested selfie from his bathroom. 

Well he might go looking for BOOBS!  He could also do what all these inexperienced doofi (is it doofuses or doofi for plural?) do and lecture all us oldsters about how to live our lives.

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10 minutes ago, Christina87 said:

Jinger's expression bothers me too. It seems very "mean girl." It reminds me of the cool girl at school who is forced to be photographed with the loser, and kind of half-asses a smile in a fake, "I didn't really want to take this picture and I want the whole world to know it" kind of way. I'm sure if bestie Jessa had held up the camera and said, "selfie time!" Jing would have been over there in seconds pushing her face against Jessa's and grinning. Because it's Jill, she keeps doing what she's doing and gives an aggrieved look that sorta kinda passes for a smile, but implies she's being forced to take this picture against her will. Jill probably held the camera up and expected Jinger to walk over to her, but jing left her hanging. Then Jill is the uncool girl who doesn't realize Jinger is embarrassed to be in the picture and posts it. 

Given Jill’s reported role as the “snitch” in the family, Jinger just may not like her. 

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birkenstock

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It looks like Jill took the picture while Jinger was in the middle of cooking something.  Jinger has her sleeves pulled up. I don't think it was a slight or anything, she looks like she is tired and fake smiling.  If anything, Jill could have been considerate and waited to take the picture until Jinger was out of the kitchen and relaxing. 

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latetotheparty

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8 hours ago, questionfear said:

I can demolish a dozen eggs a week by myself, so if both Jinger and Jeremy like eggs, buying 18-24 at a time isn't more than a week or two worth of breakfasts. 

Jeremy was an athlete.  Athletes have long been mainlining eggs as a cheap source of quality protein. He likes to look good. I bet Jinger is adjusting to his way of eating and there’s never been a tater tot in that house. 

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2 hours ago, Christina87 said:

Jinger's expression bothers me too. It seems very "mean girl." It reminds me of the cool girl at school who is forced to be photographed with the loser, and kind of half-asses a smile in a fake, "I didn't really want to take this picture and I want the whole world to know it" kind of way. I'm sure if bestie Jessa had held up the camera and said, "selfie time!" Jing would have been over there in seconds pushing her face against Jessa's and grinning. Because it's Jill, she keeps doing what she's doing and gives an aggrieved look that sorta kinda passes for a smile, but implies she's being forced to take this picture against her will. Jill probably held the camera up and expected Jinger to walk over to her, but jing left her hanging. Then Jill is the uncool girl who doesn't realize Jinger is embarrassed to be in the picture and posts it. 

I’m going to cut Jinger some slack here. If an annoying relative showed up for a surprise visit with her baby and her crazy husband, I don’t think I would have the patience or energy to fake a goofy smile for her obnoxious selfies either. 

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latetotheparty

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3 hours ago, EVS said:

I’m going to cut Jinger some slack here. If an annoying relative showed up for a surprise visit with her baby and her crazy husband, I don’t think I would have the patience or energy to fake a goofy smile for her obnoxious selfies either. 

I have to cut her some slack too.  If, as we suspect, Jill was taking the selfie then Jill may have posted the shot where she looked her best.  For Jill's value of best. :P

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latetotheparty

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12 minutes ago, Totally said:

I doubt Jill scrolls through pics to find the best one ...she just snaps and posts 

You are probably right.  Very likely, she looked at the photo and thought "I look awesome!" and posted happily.  The more I look at it, I think Jill was ready but Jinger's smile had not quite formed,  Her face looks in transition from one expression to another and those pics are always dreadful.

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In all the years I've been watching the Duggars, that's the first time I've ever seen Jinger and Jill spending time together. 

In such a large family, I don't expect all siblings to be close, but given the level of isolation and the way their parents denied them normal friendships, it's strange that Jessa/Jinger are like virtual strangers to Jana/Jill. 

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I can see Jill randomly going, "Let's take a fun selfie for instagram!" and that picture was the result. My expression tends to look like Jinger's when I'm surprised with a camera. 

On 1/30/2018 at 6:15 PM, FakeJoshDuggar said:

Given Jill’s reported role as the “snitch” in the family, Jinger just may not like her. 

I've said this before, but I don't think anyone outside her buddy group liked Jill at all until they got a nice break from living with her. In addition to being a snitch, she always gave off that air of perky bossiness, the one who hounded everyone to do their work and who planned all sorts of "fun" activities that no one else but her enjoyed, all with a smile on her face.  And never forget the time she couldn't let Jinger express a desire to live in a city. She was clearly incapable of lending a sympathetic ear, because she was always trying to catch someone feeling something wrong. Imagining living her her makes me want to eat my own face. 

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33 minutes ago, lascuba said:

I can see Jill randomly going, "Let's take a fun selfie for instagram!" and that picture was the result. My expression tends to look like Jinger's when I'm surprised with a camera. 

I've said this before, but I don't think anyone outside her buddy group liked Jill at all until they got a nice break from living with her. In addition to being a snitch, she always gave off that air of perky bossiness, the one who hounded everyone to do their work and who planned all sorts of "fun" activities that no one else but her enjoyed, all with a smile on her face.  And never forget the time she couldn't let Jinger express a desire to live in a city. She was clearly incapable of lending a sympathetic ear, because she was always trying to catch someone feeling something wrong. Imagining living her her makes me want to eat my own face. 

And Jill's know-it-all attitude probably got worse after she got engaged. I can just hear her gloating about being the first Duggarette to get engaged, exulting about Derelict's degree and his fancy job, crowing about the McMansion KJB and Mullet gave them, and so on. 

 

Joke's on you, Silly Jilly Dullard. 

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lascuba

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48 minutes ago, Heathen said:

And Jill's know-it-all attitude probably got worse after she got engaged. I can just hear her gloating about being the first Duggarette to get engaged, exulting about Derelict's degree and his fancy job, crowing about the McMansion KJB and Mullet gave them, and so on. 

 

Joke's on you, Silly Jilly Dullard. 

I remember when she was engaged and the girls were traveling somewhere (wedding dress shopping, maybe?). Jill was finishing packing her bag, and said something to Jessa about wearing whatever extras Jessa packed, and when Jessa replied that she had planned what she would wear each day and didn't pack any extras, Jill got pretty snotty about it and Jessa had this, "I am so done with your shit," look on her face. 

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On ‎1‎/‎31‎/‎2018 at 11:52 AM, BitterApple said:

In all the years I've been watching the Duggars, that's the first time I've ever seen Jinger and Jill spending time together. 

In such a large family, I don't expect all siblings to be close, but given the level of isolation and the way their parents denied them normal friendships, it's strange that Jessa/Jinger are like virtual strangers to Jana/Jill. 

I'm sure there's some resentment on Jana's and Jill's part due to the discrepancy in workload between the first two and second two.  Plus Jessa and Jinger have always seemed like mean girls to me, hiding out while Jana and Jill did most of the work.  I imagine Jessa would make fun of them while bestie Jing giggled and egged her on.

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Christina87

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2 hours ago, RedheadZombie said:

I'm sure there's some resentment on Jana's and Jill's part due to the discrepancy in workload between the first two and second two.  Plus Jessa and Jinger have always seemed like mean girls to me, hiding out while Jana and Jill did most of the work.  I imagine Jessa would make fun of them while bestie Jing giggled and egged her on.

This, plus Jessa and Jinger seemed to only get the "fun" chores, like going out and buying clothes. Jana and Jill seemed more into the everyday grunt work. 

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cmr2014

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3 hours ago, flyingdi said:

Probably what really happened was the Duggars read somewhere that none of her sisters (except Joy) see, to like Jill much so off to Texas she went cause Screw you people that watch our show!

I think it's all part of Gothardism. The parents tell the children (and everyone else) that they are all "best friends" regardless of the reality. Since they have no other frame of reference, they believe that its must be true and that any negative feelings they have for each other should be suppressed. Meanwhile, Gothard's teachings pit the siblings against one another in a sad and desperate attempt to win some scrap of attention or affection from their parents. I think you could be right, and this could be another FU Internet ploy, but it could also be the Jill is just as clueless as she appears to be and assumes that Jinger will be thrilled to see her coming through the door.

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31 minutes ago, cmr2014 said:

I think it's all part of Gothardism. The parents tell the children (and everyone else) that they are all "best friends" regardless of the reality. Since they have no other frame of reference, they believe that its must be true and that any negative feelings they have for each other should be suppressed. Meanwhile, Gothard's teachings pit the siblings against one another in a sad and desperate attempt to win some scrap of attention or affection from their parents. I think you could be right, and this could be another FU Internet ploy, but it could also be the Jill is just as clueless as she appears to be and assumes that Jinger will be thrilled to see her coming through the door.

Yeah for such a close family few of them seem to be that close. JB and Michelle pitted each and every one of those kids against each other. They continue to do so to this day. I foresee very few of the Duggarlings having anything to do with each other beyond a superficial level once JB and Michelle pass on.

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On 1/19/2018 at 8:07 PM, Churchhoney said:

Yay for people not going. There's a lot of lies and hate in the group assembled for that conference, in my opinion. That Anzen guy, for example, Mr. "Iron Sharpens Iron," has, among other things, pushed the book "The Pink Swastika," which I'd call a lying fundie's attempt to argue that Nazi Germany wasn't anti-gay because large hordes of actual Nazis were gay. ....

Well, he's not entirely wrong. Just about 99% wrong. I haven't read the book but I'm guessing he's using the examples of Ernst Röhm and Rudolf Hess, both close friends of Hitler, to make his point. Both has been rumoured to be gay (Röhm pretty definitely was, as were apparently a number of his senior officers in the SA but don't quote me on that) and at least initially they were very influential in the Nazi party. Hess remained friendly with Hitler but Röhm was executed and his brownshirts essentially destroyed during The Night of the Long Knives. And thousands of gay people were later sent to the camps. So, this Anzen fella isn't technically lying, he's just being very very selective with his facts. Bullshitting, in other words. /steps off history minor soapbox

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