Sweet Fellowship: Duggars and Friends (aka the Bates Family and Other Featured Families Thread)

[Zella]

5 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

I think I read somewhere that Plexus is banned in Canada. Or maybe I'm making it up. I'm old and all.

In my mind's eye, I'm totally seeing a task force of Mounties telling the Canadian government, "We have some worrying reports of drug activity south of the border." And at that point, they display a picture of Jill in all of her crazed Plexus glory, and Canada's government says, "I don't care what you have to do to stop it. We don't want that in our country." 

Edited December 9, 2020 by Zella

[Normades]

6 minutes ago, Oldernowiser said:

I know they claim it’s “all natural” but who’s checking, really? And ephedrine was originally derived from plants. Ergo, “natural.” I checked and  Plexus is not reviewed by the FDA. Who knows what’s in it.

Yes, the good old "all natural" so it must be okay theory.  Cyanide is also "natural."  I don't think it's a good idea to take it tho.

[doodlebug]

17 minutes ago, Oldernowiser said:

I know they claim it’s “all natural” but who’s checking, really? And ephedrine was originally derived from plants. Ergo, “natural.” I checked and  Plexus is not reviewed by the FDA. Who knows what’s in it.

 

Rattle snake venom is 'all natural', too.  As are poison mushrooms.  Curare, produced by poisonous frogs, can kill you.

All natural is a meaningless term and doesn't indicate that the product is safe or risk free.

[DangerousMinds]

4 hours ago, Jeeves said:

There aren't as many of those jobs as there were a generation ago. Which is probably an understatement. 

Yep, the factory jobs around here in SW Ohio pay about $10 an hour with no benefits. They hire from temp agencies.

[Rabbittron]

6 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

If the story about Tim's last job leading him astray is true, then I'd guess the Rodrents 

I read this as rodents. 

[laurakaye]

1 hour ago, Zella said:

That's the entire reason his parents operate the way they do--to keep their children dependent and under their control. I met people who had pretty sheltered and controlled childhoods at a Christian college. And even though that wasn't the greatest place to spread your wings, a lot of them really benefited just from being away from their parents and being exposed to other ideas/other people. Tim's best chance was where he was--away from his family at school. 

I just can't wrap my mind around wanting to raise an army of zombies, when Jill and Shrek know full well that when they go off to that great Plexus castle in the sky, their offspring will be left to wander in a daze wondering what to do, how to get a job, how to keep the lights on, etc.  That's not love, that's abuse.  So much squashed potential in the kids of these nutcases.

[farmgal4]

1 hour ago, BitterApple said:

I agree. It seems like the moment Tim found slivers of independence and happiness, Jill swooped in to blow it all to shit. Now he's failed out of two colleges, failed at starting a business and is living in an RV. I imagine his self-esteem is in the gutter, right where Mommy Dearest wants it. 

Omg, I hate that crazy bitch with a burning passion.  She is singlehandedly ruining 13 lives.  I say singlehandedly because I think Shrek is a spineless slug who only does whatever his lunatic of a wife tells him to do.  I think we all know who runs the show.

[Jynnan tonnix]

16 minutes ago, farmgal4 said:

Omg, I hate that crazy bitch with a burning passion.  She is singlehandedly ruining 13 lives.  I say singlehandedly because I think Shrek is a spineless slug who only does whatever his lunatic of a wife tells him to do.  I think we all know who runs the show.

Almost makes one wonder whether Shrek is just as browbeaten and afraid not to produce whatever Jill demands - from rebuilding a barn to her rabbit-warren standards to producing more children. It might be that he eats his feelings, zombie-like, through whatever Jill puts in front of him, while she beams in self-satisfied delight at being such a godly wife who puts her husband second only to God. The heck with the kids. 

Edited December 9, 2020 by Jynnan tonnix

[Turquoise]

58 minutes ago, farmgal4 said:

Omg, I hate that crazy bitch with a burning passion.  She is singlehandedly ruining 13 lives.  I say singlehandedly because I think Shrek is a spineless slug who only does whatever his lunatic of a wife tells him to do.  I think we all know who runs the show.

But...but...she's supposed to be subject to her husband! The don't-work verse said so!!
Oh...but the same verse also said she needed to be sensible and kind, didn't it?

[3 is enough]

I would imagine that in the limited universe in which Jill and her family exist, there have been more than a few discreet whispers about keeping daughters away from the Rod boys.  Sure, they can "fellowship" and put up with the screeching in the name of Jesus, but that's the extent of their acceptance.  I highly doubt anyone wants their daughter to marry into that mess.

[Future Cat Lady]

I'm not sure I would paint David as a victim. Sure he could be, but I'm not sure that's what's going on. Jill may run the show, but he may have no problem and he's happy with it. That makes him complicit. We don't know what really goes on in that house. We don't really know what he's like because Jill is the one on SM. 

Edited December 9, 2020 by Future Cat Lady

[iwantcookies]

 They went tree shopping. Tim is in the basement? 

And of course now Jill is posting anti COVID vaccine garbage. asshat.

Edited December 9, 2020 by iwantcookies

[libgirl2]

50 minutes ago, iwantcookies said:

 They went tree shopping. Tim is in the basement? 

And of course now Jill is posting anti COVID vaccine garbage. asshat.

Of course the moron is. 

[crazycatlady58]

53 minutes ago, iwantcookies said:

 They went tree shopping. Tim is in the basement? 

And of course now Jill is posting anti COVID vaccine garbage. asshat.

So all the kids are dressed warmly? That's the only positive thing I can think of.

[iwantcookies]

Day 11. Basically if a woman works outside of a home she will be unfaithful. 

What man wants to sleep with crazy eyes? His ... will not rise to the occasion. 

Edited December 9, 2020 by iwantcookies

[libgirl2]

3 minutes ago, iwantcookies said:

Day 11. Basically if a woman works outside of a home she will be unfaithful. 

What man wants to sleep with crazy eyes? His ... will not rise to the occasion. 

She wishes. 

[crazy8s]

1 hour ago, iwantcookies said:

 They went tree shopping. Tim is in the basement? 

And of course now Jill is posting anti COVID vaccine garbage. asshat.

my first thought is good lord they're bringing another fire hazard into the barndo!

[libgirl2]

Just now, crazy8s said:

my first thought is good lord they're bringing another fire hazard into the barndo!

Gosh, I didn't think of that. WTF will they fit it? 

[iwantcookies]

Jill make sure to get/pay for fire insurance. Your barn is going to burn down. Girl you in danger!!!

 

 

[iwantcookies]

[ginger90]

There is a video of them getting the tree. Employees are wearing masks. None of Jill’s precious family is.

Just wanted to add, they were indoors.

Edited December 9, 2020 by ginger90

[sondraK]

5 hours ago, iwantcookies said:

I’m sure Timmy would be allowed to work for a Plexus factory if one was near by. 
 

Whoever called them rodents I am hysterical. They do look like a pack of starving rodents.

 

Esp. if it got Jill free Plexus!

[EVS]

1 hour ago, crazy8s said:

my first thought is good lord they're bringing another fire hazard into the barndo!

That wasn’t my first thought, although it should have been.  That is terrifying.  It’s a disaster waiting to happen. 

My first thought was that they finally let Janessa stand on her own for a picture. Then I realized that the toddler-sized child was 5 1/2 year old Sophia  and Janessa is being held by (and Kaylee) in her coat the way you would hold a baby in one of those snuggle carriers (or whatever they are called). 

Edited December 9, 2020 by EVS

[louannems]

5 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I think I read somewhere that Plexus is banned in Canada. Or maybe I'm making it up. I'm old and all.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://jenniferspassion4internetmarketing.com/the-plexus-scam-the-pink-nightmare/%23:~:text%3DPlexus%20Was%20Banned%20In%20Some,pack%20on%20February%207%2C%202014.&ved=2ahUKEwi405-DgsLtAhUZIDQIHXYpDQAQFjABegQIAhAF&usg=AOvVaw06VsruvLDXYBvaPDu1_Zl0

[Churchhoney]

11 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

 

Funny how all these patriarchal religions make it nearly impossible for all but a few men to have any real success.

Once you're a patriarch, you apparently can't rest until you're sure you'll be the only patriarch. 

To varying degrees, they're all like those little groups of polygamous old men who run the young men out of town so they can keep all the girls for themselves. 

Edited December 9, 2020 by Churchhoney

[Churchhoney]

9 hours ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

He's close enough to the GoJo factory up in Cuyahoga Falls.  GoJo is having a banner year making Purell and other cleaners.  He could also get a cheap apartment in Akron if the commute is too long.

GOJO has a distribution warehouse in Wooster. They've got three shifts to fill and are busy, too. Less money than the manufacturing plant probably, but an easy commute so he could keep living in the RV. They probably have jobs he's capable of -- and the more experience he gets working for other people the better it'll be for his resume and his common sense, long term. (not that his parents believe or want that, of course) 

Edited December 9, 2020 by Churchhoney

[Churchhoney]

6 hours ago, Zella said:

That's the entire reason his parents operate the way they do--to keep their children dependent and under their control. I met people who had pretty sheltered and controlled childhoods at a Christian college. And even though that wasn't the greatest place to spread your wings, a lot of them really benefited just from being away from their parents and being exposed to other ideas/other people. Tim's best chance was where he was--away from his family at school. 

Amen. You have to get away. The surveillance and various forms of intimidation and guilting when you're there kill your initiative and of course eliminate outside influences. Any place "away" is better. Even an awful job that you get away to for eight hours a day. A cloistered convent would be a more open environment than the home of a super-controller like Jill. 

Edited December 9, 2020 by Churchhoney

[crazy8s]

well Timbits' response defending the self review of his own business states his goal.  "I am sure you probably would have done the same thing if you were working your but off to become totally self employed"  and yes he spelled butt with only one t.

tim doesn't want to work at any available job or though he is 20, mama is not allowing him to do so.

timbits may be getting licensed and insured, but since he only accepts cash, how did he pay the fees there. His godly business is avoiding paying taxes at the very least. probably timbits/the godly handman business has no bank acct either and he hands the cash over to mama to write the check.

Edited December 10, 2020 by crazy8s

[Churchhoney]

5 hours ago, laurakaye said:

I just can't wrap my mind around wanting to raise an army of zombies, 

Clearly you are not a control freak then. Because control freaks like Jill only want to raise armies of zombies. 

[Westiepeach]

OMG. We are finding a job for TimBits. Something his own parents don’t want to do. What is wrong with this picture?

[BradandJanet]

When the Rod boys are in their forties and fifties, they will find themselves in the barndo with the designated unmarried sister(s) and Janessa, still the baby after all these years. Shrek expired when his gut exploded from his daily diet of quarter of a whole half cow, mashed potatoes with fake cheese sauce, beige glob, and hummingbird sugar water. The unmarried sons are emotionally shackled to their crazy mother, whose continuing mental decline just adds to her meanness and demands for hourly dusting of the tchotchkes. Jill's head started a 360-degree spin about fifteen years earlier, frightening away any potential brides. Plexus was discovered to be made from toxic waste and banned, but Jill, long an addict, makes her sons get her bootlegged jugs of it. Gabriel is trying to run the printing business, but no one in the house is capable of proofreading a simple sentence. Janessa occasionally drinks the printing ink because it reminds her of Mama's milk and the e-coli-infested bathroom chair. Gutter Cleaning for Jesus was doing OK until Tim, still waiting for his insurance and license to come in the mail, fell off a roof and became SEVERELY quadriplegic like his Aunt Amy Foster. The Dinguii and their remaining cow and chicken moved away in the middle of the night. The Church of the Giant Neon Sign packed up and left town one weekend when Jill screamed and breathed fire at the congregation for being nice to a gay couple. Jill's sister, the author of Serena's Serenity, is thinking about using the Rods as source material for her second best seller. 

 

[crazycatlady58]

11 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

Amen. You have to get away. The surveillance and various forms of intimidation and guilting when you're there kill your initiative and of course eliminate outside influences. Any place "away" is better. Even an awful job that you get away to for eight hours a day. A cloistered convent would be a more open environment than the home of a super-controller like Jill. 

The convent would probably be more fun too.

[Nysha]

Besides being control freaks, JillRod and JimBob don't see any of their kids as adults. To them the kids are still 12-15 and they treat them accordingly. They don't teach their children any adulting skills because they don't believe they'll ever be adults. And since the kids don't have the skills to be independent adults they remain attached to their parents who are vindicated.

The real sin Jill committed was marrying a guy who matured into a man and forced/encouraged her to cut the cord. Nathan has seemingly done the same with Nurie, but she doesn't have a social media platform to document any changes she making. 

[Westiepeach]

1 hour ago, BradandJanet said:

When the Rod boys are in their forties and fifties, they will find themselves in the barndo with the designated unmarried sister(s) and Janessa, still the baby after all these years. Shrek expired when his gut exploded from his daily diet of quarter of a whole half cow, mashed potatoes with fake cheese sauce, beige glob, and hummingbird sugar water. The unmarried sons are emotionally shackled to their crazy mother, whose continuing mental decline just adds to her meanness and demands for hourly dusting of the tchotchkes. Jill's head started a 360-degree spin about fifteen years earlier, frightening away any potential brides. Plexus was discovered to be made from toxic waste and banned, but Jill, long an addict, makes her sons get her bootlegged jugs of it. Gabriel is trying to run the printing business, but no one in the house is capable of proofreading a simple sentence. Janessa occasionally drinks the printing ink because it reminds her of Mama's milk and the e-coli-infested bathroom chair. Gutter Cleaning for Jesus was doing OK until Tim, still waiting for his insurance and license to come in the mail, fell off a roof and became SEVERELY quadriplegic like his Aunt Amy Foster. The Dinguii and their remaining cow and chicken moved away in the middle of the night. The Church of the Giant Neon Sign packed up and left town one weekend when Jill screamed and breathed fire at the congregation for being nice to a gay couple. Jill's sister, the author of Serena's Serenity, is thinking about using the Rods as source material for her second best seller. 

 

Accurate.

[crazy8s]

27 minutes ago, Nysha said:

Besides being control freaks, JillRod and JimBob don't see any of their kids as adults. To them the kids are still 12-15 and they treat them accordingly. They don't teach their children any adulting skills because they don't believe they'll ever be adults. And since the kids don't have the skills to be independent adults they remain attached to their parents who are vindicated.

I am not so sure they even see them in that way. for JB and Meech the kids have always been a bragging rights things. an attention getting look at us, look at us, we have 19 kids. Jb told strangers that on camera in other cities and countries.

I believe it is the same for JillR. first thing on the family blog is nothing about Jesus it is the 13 kids

they can't let the kids grow up because they lose the one thing that they most brag about - the entire brand they have worked so hard to market

Edited December 10, 2020 by crazy8s

[Bridget]

4 hours ago, iwantcookies said:

 

 

When was the last time we saw someone like Kate next to a photo of Jill and two of the Plaths? I can't stop staring at this screenshot based on my incredulity!

NEVER in my life did I think I'd ever see Kate next to Jill or a Plath family member. I'd pay good money to see Jill try and convert the Cambridges! I wonder if she knows George is just a wee bit older than Sophia? "So, you're saying there's a chance?" hahahahahahahahahaha!  

@iwantcookies, this isn't snarking on you or your IG habits.

 

 

 

Edited December 10, 2020 by Bridget

[MrsClaus]

Jill needs to go read Proverbs 31 and re-read Titus 2.  Oh who am I kidding, her ability to actually comprehend stuff is at about a -2

[emmawoodhouse]

47 minutes ago, MrsClaus said:

Jill needs to go read Proverbs 31 and re-read Titus 2.  Oh who am I kidding, her ability to actually comprehend stuff is at about a -2

She quoted Proverbs 31 in today's Make Your Life Count minute. She was prattling on about selling Plexus when she got cut off. Good times. 😁

Edited December 10, 2020 by emmawoodhouse

[ouinason]

14 hours ago, ginger90 said:

This is the verse she quoted:

good old fashioned out of context Christianity.

[laurakaye]

15 hours ago, Nysha said:

Besides being control freaks, JillRod and JimBob don't see any of their kids as adults. To them the kids are still 12-15 and they treat them accordingly.  

You'd think once their kids start popping out babies like Pez dispensers, JB would perhaps start to worry about how his kids are going to support their own broods, but I guess if kids are only for bragging rights then the grandbabies are just more evidence of JB's manly chest-thumping patriarchy.

[GeeGolly]

8,376 followers, following 25, still private.

[doodlebug]

52 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

8,376 followers, following 25, still private.

So, she's lost more than 500 followers since Monday?  Go, Jill!

[Oldernowiser]

57 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

You'd think once their kids start popping out babies like Pez dispensers, JB would perhaps start to worry about how his kids are going to support their own broods, but I guess if kids are only for bragging rights then the grandbabies are just more evidence of JB's manly chest-thumping patriarchy.

I think it’s worse than that...they think babies are God’s merit badges. The more you get the more God likes you better than other people.

Hence the bragging. And the palpable neglect of children once they stop being infants. 

[PradaKitty]

Those children look unwell. They remind me of a commercial for St. Jude’s or Shriners Hospital. Can James’s even walk? 

[BradandJanet]

55 minutes ago, PradaKitty said:

Those children look unwell. They remind me of a commercial for St. Jude’s or Shriners Hospital. Can James’s even walk? 

Tim is working. Does he ever buy food and give it to his brothers and sisters on the sly? Maybe he does, and that's why he's on Jill's shit list. 

[lianau]

On 12/9/2020 at 5:33 AM, emmawoodhouse said:

The lowest level math they had at Moody was Algebra. I doubt he passed it. I wonder what courses he took at Fox Valley; they likely offered the remedial coursework Timmy needed. But would Tim have it in him to talk with a counselor and chart a reasonable path of courses suited to his academic level? 

I also wonder what class he was taking that caused some other students to show him porn (according to Jill)?

Biology  ?

[SMama]

1 hour ago, PradaKitty said:

Those children look unwell. They remind me of a commercial for St. Jude’s or Shriners Hospital. Can James’s even walk? 

There’s a James R?

[dargosmydaddy]

2 minutes ago, SMama said:

There’s a James R?

I think it was an autocorrect for Janessa, who is seemingly always being held...

[emmawoodhouse]

2 minutes ago, SMama said:

There’s a James R?

No. I think OP meant Janessa and autocorrect got in the way. 

And yes, she can walk. 

[Albanyguy]

49 minutes ago, BradandJanet said:

Tim is working. Does he ever buy food and give it to his brothers and sisters on the sly? Maybe he does, and that's why he's on Jill's shit list. 

I could see that. If she caught him buying and sneaking food to his siblings, she'd be furious, taking it as an implied criticism of her parenting. Although he may not have any money at his disposal at all. I wouldn't put it past Jill to demand that he turn over every cent he earns and then spend it all on herself.