Sweet Fellowship: Duggars and Friends (aka the Bates Family and Other Featured Families Thread)

[BitterApple]

Not gonna lie, I love Candace's Hallmark movies.

[GeeGolly]

3 hours ago, madpsych78 said:

Sounds like Jessa, and Michelle for that matter. Maybe even Anna.

But not Jill, Jinger, or Joy. Not sure about Kendra.

Definitely Jessa and Michelle and I think to a degree, both Anna and Jinger run the families. I think Jill, Joy and Kendra are brainwashed/willing to be happily submissive. 

[graefin]

3 hours ago, madpsych78 said:

Sounds like Jessa, and Michelle for that matter. Maybe even Anna.

But not Jill, Jinger, or Joy. Not sure about Kendra.

Then again Jessa did let Ben name their firstborn Spurgeon . . . 

[Heathen]

On 5/20/2018 at 8:09 PM, DragonFaerie said:

I'm wondering if Diana V never clued Chuck into a woman's ovulation cycle.  I know waaay too many husbands who have no clue about it and they aren't fundie, they are just like that's her issue.  Working in health care and having friends in it I know of 2 stories over the past 15 or so years - One was a young wife - they had 2 kids and were trying to not get immediately pregnant again, so they were using BC.  She went to her doc with a raging UTI and vaginal infection.  When the doc asked what she was using for birth control - thinking she may have been having a reaction to tha,t the young woman replied, Jelly.  Grape.  Everyone in the room paused.  The doctor finally managed to gain control and asked, um, grape?  The young woman nodded confidently and said that her husband prefered that over strawberry - I kid you not.  The doctor left, came back after composing herself with a sample tube of spermicidal jelly and showed it to the young woman.  She had never seen anything like it. She and her husband thought that jelly meant jelly as in the kind you put on PB&J.  

The other was a young woman my bestie went to high school with who was devistated to learn she was again pregnant with their 4th baby in like 6 years.  She was sobbing and confessed she didn't understand why.  They had been so careful to have sex as far away from her period as possible.  Then began a very long discussion on an ovulation cycle and when you can get pregnant.  Neither of these girls mothers or older sisters gave them any type of knowledge nor did they allow them any private time before marriage with a nurse or doctor, regardless of their age to give them any type of real world info.  I swear I have given so many BC, sex ed, STD impromptu discussions with women close to my age and now daughters because their parents don't feel comfortable about it that I should write a book, or a blog.  Knowledge is power.  

That's an urban legend. I've seen several different variations of it in several different mediums. The most common twist is that she has a purple discharge, goes to the ER, and the doctor finds out she's using grape jelly. 

[Temperance]

I don't know how I missed it, but I just realized ..... Jeremy's parents are Charles and Diana! 

[PradaKitty]

Well, he IS the heir apparent...

[DragonFaerie]

37 minutes ago, Heathen said:

That's an urban legend. I've seen several different variations of it in several different mediums. The most common twist is that she has a purple discharge, goes to the ER, and the doctor finds out she's using grape jelly. 

Might also be a legend, but I do know a nurse that had that actually happen to her - in a small, rural community.  The doctor actually called my dad, also a long time gp in the area to ask if he had come across it before in the area.

[RedheadZombie]

On ‎5‎/‎17‎/‎2018 at 6:10 AM, GeeGolly said:

Except a typical parent wants more and better for their children. I'm guessing that many parents that have married young would share the pros and cons and let the kids make more informed decisions. However in this case Ben wanted a quick marriage as much as his parents did.

My mom was eighteen when she married and lived a very traditional life.  She would have killed me if I even thought of getting married before finishing college.  In her heart she was a feminist and that's how she raised me.  Get an education so you can support yourself and then marry for love.  I missed out on the second part.  Lol.

[RedheadZombie]

On ‎5‎/‎17‎/‎2018 at 10:46 AM, DkNNy79 said:

I know right?  They can't afford to live on their own, but its okay for them to get married so that they don't have sex out of wedlock?  The priorities with these folks are seriously twisted.

 

Not to mention that a lot of fundies are single issue voters.  Nothing matters but abortions. 

That's because abortion causes school shootings.  Work that one out.

On ‎5‎/‎18‎/‎2018 at 6:29 AM, ginger90 said:

Janessa’s Doctor said……

We had a doctor’s appointment today for Janessa with the neurosurgeon. It went GREAT and so far Janessa is defying all the odds in her accomplishments….especially since she is missing her corpus collosum! Thank God! 

 

 

I can’t believe our little angel turned ONE month already on May 11th. Today (Wednesday) Janessa is 5 weeks old already! Life SURE is a vapor! I am trying to cherish EVERY moment! 

 

 

As long as I was there.........

 

I LOVE this saying below! You know, the world always accuses Christians of brain “washing” our children.

Guess what, they do the SAME thing with their corrupt philosophy if they teach our children! Except I wouldn’t call it brain “washing”, but rather brain “dirtying”! 

So, let us boldly teach them TRUTH from the FINAL authority – the Word of God – the BIBLE! 

I love feisty little Janessa.  She's not only side-eyeing the horrific headband, she's trying her hardest to remove it.

On ‎5‎/‎18‎/‎2018 at 8:26 AM, doodlebug said:

Lordy, I hate the fundie insistence on dippy headwear on baby girls!  Poor kid, she looks so silly in that thing.

Ugh, so agreed.  There was a mini-series called Torchwood:  Miracle Day.  The character of Gwen had a baby daughter who was being watched by grandma.   Gwen returns, takes her baby in her arms, frowns at the ridiculous thing on her head, removes it and tosses it on the ground.  Why can't we think of the children?

[Rabbittron]

I was just watching My Wild Life and the wife reminds me of Jillrod.

[Normades]

20 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

I think most of us here are well aware of the Camerons. I've slammed both Kirky and Cammy on this forum. 

This board is more aware of the dangers of the cute, "normal" looking fundies than you give us credit for. As you said, the prettier the package, the more likely people will fall for the bullshit. I think that most of us here are past that.

I don’t think the dangers of pretty packaging covering destructive beliefs can be overstated.  It normalizes a dangerous belief system.  While regular posters may be aware of the Camerons, a newbie may not.  We all need to be reminded to dig deeper and not take things at face value in life.  The Camerons are a good reminder of that.  Such attractive, wholesome looking people with really toxic beliefs.

Just my humble opinion.

[Churchhoney]

28 minutes ago, Normades said:

I don’t think the dangers of pretty packaging covering destructive beliefs can be overstated.  It normalizes a dangerous belief system.  While regular posters may be aware of the Camerons, a newbie may not.  We all need to be reminded to dig deeper and not take things at face value in life.  The Camerons are a good reminder of that.  Such attractive, wholesome looking people with really toxic beliefs.

Just my humble opinion.

Bears repeating.

[Absolom]

1 hour ago, Normades said:

I don’t think the dangers of pretty packaging covering destructive beliefs can be overstated. 

I'm sure it can be to the point of causing people to go the other way.  I think for regular readers it becomes very much a dead horse.  New to the escapades of fundies people do need to be clued in.  I simply skip reading it these days.

[queenanne]

17 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

Definitely Jessa and Michelle and I think to a degree, both Anna and Jinger run the families. I think Jill, Joy and Kendra are brainwashed/willing to be happily submissive. 

Yeah, i call a lot of that ‘personality’.  If Bin is willing to be told and argued into what beliefs he has by his wife, Jessa will tell him  in long private parent conversation what he has to tell the boys and ‘what their family believes’, and fundie dad will then passively enforce.

[ChiCricket]

On 5/22/2018 at 3:17 PM, BitterApple said:

Not gonna lie, I love Candace's Hallmark movies.

 I agree, and I would never admit that IRL.  ?

[tabloidlover]

Why is neither of them supporting her head???

[latetotheparty]

17 minutes ago, tabloidlover said:

Why is neither of them supporting her head???

Morons, both of them. 

[queenanne]

Imagine, thanking, etc. God for Chimpy on a regular basis as Jill does.  Boy, some women are really desperate not to be alone, aren't they?

[Celia Rubenstein]

Jill's hair looks like an explosion in a haystack.  She needs to stay away from open flames because that dry, brittle mess will go up like a torch.

[DragonFaerie]

13 kids and neither one of them knows to support the babies heads.  Idiots.  Chimpy looks like he's about to make a mess in his diapers and like, what the hell, there's another one of these things now?  While Jill is like, Nurie, be a dear and handle the laundry, the little ones and clean the house, mummy needs to do her hair and her nails and put on a truckload of makeup and drink her Plexus to take a photo today!!

Edited May 27, 2018 by DragonFaerie

[Jynnan tonnix]

Aside from everything else, I don't know whether it's a weird filter or what, but literally the only feature  on Chimpy's face with any contrast is the space between his front teeth. Everything else, even his eyes, seems dialed back into some other dimension.

I suppose that softening effect is supposed to be flattering. Maybe if they were softened into invisibility it might be an improvement.

[Churchhoney]

3 hours ago, tabloidlover said:

Why is neither of them supporting her head???

Because their heads are full of air? Or boiled mush or something? 

[Catfin]

On 5/21/2018 at 6:10 AM, GeeGolly said:

Candace Bure, Kirk Cameron's sister is full on Fundy. She has spoken openly about her husband leading the family and her being a submissive wife. She's worked on the View, does commercials and acts in wholesome movies. She wears pants and some risque (by Fundy standards) dresses as well.

I think it's less about what their wives wear and if they work and more about the husband having the final say. I'm guessing there's a few 'submissive' women out there that have their husbands thinking they have the final say.

Edited May 27, 2018 by Catfin
Trying to remove. No idea why this posted.

[doodlebug]

26 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

Because their heads are full of air? Or boiled mush or something? 

I hope the kid is asleep, although she might just have her eyes closed against the bright sunlight.  If she's awake, her muscle tone seems like it might not be too good.

[Catfin]

4 hours ago, tabloidlover said:

Why is neither of them supporting her head???

This picture startled me into realizing she looks like my husband's ex wife and he looks like her hapless 2nd husband. She has since divorced him, realized she's lesbian, married her partner and bought a biker bar. ? 

[Portia]

If you told me that's not Jill's actual hair but in fact a wig from a cheap Dolly Parton Halloween costume, I would 1000% believe you.

[doodlebug]

40 minutes ago, Portia said:

If you told me that's not Jill's actual hair but in fact a wig from a cheap Dolly Parton Halloween costume, I would 1000% believe you.

The Dolly Halloween hair would be in better condition, though.  That's how you could tell the difference.

[Totally]

5 hours ago, tabloidlover said:

Why is neither of them supporting her head???

That poor baby with her head just flopping around ???

[LilJen]

13 hours ago, Totally said:

That poor baby with her head just flopping around ???

Hey, baby has no corpus callosum, so the head doesn't NEED to be supported. . . 

[Churchhoney]

16 hours ago, Totally said:

That poor baby with her head just flopping around ???

Not to mention ... that poor baby with those two horrors as parents. There's a shudder for ya. 

[Nysha]

Poor thing, this is the most parental attention she's ever going to get.

[latetotheparty]

4 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

Not to mention ... that poor baby with those two horrors as parents. There's a shudder for ya. 

If there was ever an argument for no god, this is it. 

[Sew Sumi]

I think he belongs in Ripley's Believe it or Not. He's a freak of nature.

[DragonFaerie]

And yet, except for looking like malnourished vampires the kids are cute.  How did that happen??? Is there a mailman we should wonder about?

[GeeGolly]

Okay, I usually don't make direct comments on someones actual looks and features, but oh my, that last picture of Mr JillR really is an argument for evolution isn't it?

[Jynnan tonnix]

2 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Okay, I usually don't make direct comments on someones actual looks and features, but oh my, that last picture of Mr JillR really is an argument for evolution isn't it?

Agreed on not generally commenting on looks and features that can't be helped, but it's his  ears that get me - they're just not human...

[Fuzzysox]

On 5/27/2018 at 5:09 PM, Portia said:

If you told me that's not Jill's actual hair but in fact a wig from a cheap Dolly Parton Halloween costume, I would 1000% believe you.

If you blow the picture up you can see a gap on the right side near her forehead. I can see her wearing a weave because how much time can she truly have with that many kids to get her hair all 80's prom like?

[Lady Edith]

I think that it’s her real hair. 

As far as having time to devote to getting herself prom-ready, I think that she has ALLLLLLL the time in the world. After all, she has how many helpmeets in training who are most likely not working at their own SOTDRT since the queen bee is recovering from her ordeal and unable to “learn” them. 

She will probably nurse the little blessing and pass her on down to her assistant.  Because Mama needs to get camera ready.  Get used to it, kids...Mama wants to be a Duggar!

Edited May 29, 2018 by Lady Edith

[awaken]

 Chimpy looks miserable.

Seriously, Jill‘s hair is exactly like what we would do in junior high in the 80s when we were all trying to outdo each other with who could have the highest teased and sprayed bangs! 

[Loves2Dance]

On 5/27/2018 at 1:34 PM, tabloidlover said:

Why is neither of them supporting her head???

If they don't have sweet fellowship in the dark, I have zero clue how she gets through it without puking...off to the prayer closet I will be. 

[becca3891]

On 5/22/2018 at 1:06 PM, Sew Sumi said:

I think most of us here are well aware of the Camerons. I've slammed both Kirky and Cammy on this forum. 

This board is more aware of the dangers of the cute, "normal" looking fundies than you give us credit for. As you said, the prettier the package, the more likely people will fall for the bullshit. I think that most of us here are past that.

As a few others have pointed out, there will always be new people who think Fundies are a narrower group than they really are. The message was of course not intended for the many people here who are already aware!

On 5/22/2018 at 2:45 PM, madpsych78 said:

Sounds like Jessa, and Michelle for that matter. Maybe even Anna.

But not Jill, Jinger, or Joy. Not sure about Kendra.

The lucky Fundy women are the ones with husbands who don't care much about the leadership/submission doctrine and pretty much sit back and let their wife run things. That is absolutely Jessa. The unlucky ones end up with husbands who thrive on control. I've known a few in real life, and of course we'd never see it on camera, but I really wonder about TFDW (Anna's sister Priscilla's husband David Waller.) I think others have also said they could easily see anger and contempt lurking just below the surface. I'm with those who wonder about Austin too.

On 5/22/2018 at 4:17 PM, BitterApple said:

Not gonna lie, I love Candace's Hallmark movies.

They're so beyond cheesy, but my mom and I have a Hallmark Christmas movie tradition and she has been good in a few of them.

On 5/22/2018 at 8:18 PM, RedheadZombie said:

That's because abortion causes school shootings.  Work that one out.

I love feisty little Janessa.  She's not only side-eyeing the horrific headband, she's trying her hardest to remove it.

Ugh, so agreed.  There was a mini-series called Torchwood:  Miracle Day.  The character of Gwen had a baby daughter who was being watched by grandma.   Gwen returns, takes her baby in her arms, frowns at the ridiculous thing on her head, removes it and tosses it on the ground.  Why can't we think of the children?

Another Torchwood watcher?? I've never met one! I'm not sure I ever finished that final season though. It was so different and I had a harder time getting into it.

[Mollie]

12 hours ago, Fuzzysox said:

If you blow the picture up you can see a gap on the right side near her forehead. I can see her wearing a weave because how much time can she truly have with that many kids to get her hair all 80's prom like?

If you blow the picture up you can see a steel band across her whitened teeth.  She's wearing braces.  She surely spends a ton of money on her appearance when it is her husband who needs the dental work, ear pinning surgery and a gastric bypass.

  

[Readalot]

1 hour ago, Mollie said:

If you blow the picture up you can see a steel band across her whitened teeth.  She's wearing braces.  She surely spends a ton of money on her appearance when it is her husband who needs the dental work, ear pinning surgery and a gastric bypass.

  

And her kids need to eat. 

[RedheadZombie]

4 hours ago, becca3891 said:

As a few others have pointed out, there will always be new people who think Fundies are a narrower group than they really are. The message was of course not intended for the many people here who are already aware!

The lucky Fundy women are the ones with husbands who don't care much about the leadership/submission doctrine and pretty much sit back and let their wife run things. That is absolutely Jessa. The unlucky ones end up with husbands who thrive on control. I've known a few in real life, and of course we'd never see it on camera, but I really wonder about TFDW (Anna's sister Priscilla's husband David Waller.) I think others have also said they could easily see anger and contempt lurking just below the surface. I'm with those who wonder about Austin too.

They're so beyond cheesy, but my mom and I have a Hallmark Christmas movie tradition and she has been good in a few of them.

Another Torchwood watcher?? I've never met one! I'm not sure I ever finished that final season though. It was so different and I had a harder time getting into it.

Miracle Day is the only season I watched, but I'm contemplating seeking out other seasons.  I really liked it, but the giant sucking vagina was beyond strange.

[libgirl2]

7 hours ago, becca3891 said:

Another Torchwood watcher?? I've never met one! I'm not sure I ever finished that final season though. It was so different and I had a harder time getting into it.

Torchwood watcher here! 

[Fosca]

He looks like he's never held a baby in his life and that he's afraid he's going to break her or she's going to vomit/poo on him.

[doodlebug]

2 hours ago, Fosca said:

He looks like he's never held a baby in his life and that he's afraid he's going to break her or she's going to vomit/poo on him.

He's a man, he doesn't hold babies, except when faking it for pictures.  Even if I wasn't appalled by his beliefs, he would still be one of the most unfortunate looking men I have ever seen.  The Duggars all look like movie stars next to this guy.

As for Jill, it's pretty clear that no expense is spared when it comes to her looks.  The kids can go without food, but Mama needs her Lady Clairol.  Not surprised that she's wearing braces, either.  I seem to recall they suckered some fundy orthodontist into free braces for the kids; Jill probably cried until he fixed her teeth, too. Interesting that she gets the clear braces while the kids go full metal mouth.

[Zahdii]

3 hours ago, doodlebug said:

He's a man, he doesn't hold babies, except when faking it for pictures.  Even if I wasn't appalled by his beliefs, he would still be one of the most unfortunate looking men I have ever seen.  The Duggars all look like movie stars next to this guy.

As for Jill, it's pretty clear that no expense is spared when it comes to her looks.  The kids can go without food, but Mama needs her Lady Clairol.  Not surprised that she's wearing braces, either.  I seem to recall they suckered some fundy orthodontist into free braces for the kids; Jill probably cried until he fixed her teeth, too. Interesting that she gets the clear braces while the kids go full metal mouth.

Actually a poster on FJ attended a revival just because the R's were going to be there.  She said that David sat in the audience with the youngest kids and was very attentive to them while Jill and the other kids were performing on stage. 

After the performance, the older girls immediately joined David and helped him with the kids while Jill grabbed the youngest one (still a baby) and chatted with other audience members.  The poster said that it was a hot day and of course Jill had the kids overdressed for the temperature, even she and David were sweating. 

The poster chatted with Jill for a couple of minutes and found Jill to be gracious and polite.  David and the kids stayed in the background and didn't do anything to draw attention to themselves.  Even the youngest kids were quiet and well behaved.  When Jill had enough schmoozing, she went to the group and with just a couple of words everyone stood up and followed her and David away. 

The poster felt so bad for the kids because they looked so thin and overheated, she discussed with her husband arranging to pay for the whole family to go to the local pizza parlor.  She thought getting the kids into an air conditioned room with a lot of food would be the best thing she could do for them, but when she went to find the Rod's, they'd already left.

Edited May 29, 2018 by Zahdii
spelling

[OpieTaylor]

When I enlarged the photo of JillR's Dolly-hair, it looks like there's a row of something on her teeth - like thin braces or a retainer? Anyone else see it?

11 hours ago, Mollie said:

If you blow the picture up you can see a steel band across her whitened teeth.  She's wearing braces.  She surely spends a ton of money on her appearance when it is her husband who needs the dental work, ear pinning surgery and a gastric bypass.

  

You beat me to it!

[Annabel11]

1 hour ago, OpieTaylor said:

When I enlarged the photo of JillR's Dolly-hair, it looks like there's a row of something on her teeth - like thin braces or a retainer? Anyone else see it?

You beat me to it!

Poor Gabriel needs braces..