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I’m wondering how I’m going to handle Thanksgiving.  Most of the family members have various places they are going that day for meals, but it’s still possible that a few will come to see my parents while I’m there. This year I think we’ll have a late lunch around 3:00 for a few of us.   The trouble is that one of my brothers and his wife are not vaxxed.  They are anti-vaxxers.  They no longer wear masks either.  I’ve been around them briefly since covid, but keep it short and keep my mask on.  If it’s warm, we can sit outside, but if not….I guess I’ll have to leave.  It’s sad to have to stress over the Holidays over stuff like this.  

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22 hours ago, CandyCaneTree said:

On one of the Arkansas marriage license lookup website David Keller and Hannah Reber were issued a license on October 1st but no marriage date so I think that it will be this weekend or on Thanksgiving. 

I'd wait a few weeks until Josh was out if the house (one way or the other) before having the wedding, but that fool Mr. Reber will probaby feel that it's an honor to have Josh there.

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Did anyone watch the 20/20 episode featuring interviews with two of the Turpin children last night? I can't stop thinking about Jordan, the now 21-year-old who was the one to climb out of the window and call 911 to end the abuse. She came across to me as so immensely bright and curious and very positive about life despite all that has happened to her. It was not surprising to me after hearing her talk that she was the one who escaped and made the call. I can't fathom how she has retained such a brightness about her after what was done to her and just think how extremely strong she must be for her parents to have failed to destroy that part of her. Just put into perspective how important the force of one's innate personality must have to be to escape from these abusive upbringings.

It was also so sad to hear how badly the state seems to have failed the children after their removal from the home. It seems they have not been well supported in their transition to independent life and they cannot access the hundreds of thousands of dollars that were donated to them after their rescue. Terribly sad that some of the adult children continue to struggle with consistent housing and food after the horrible situation they dealt with for their entire childhoods. Puts it into perspective how hard it would be for any young adult with a subpar education who's been isolated and kept from developing coping skills with real people in the real world to break free from their seemingly awful families and build their own life. The deck is stacked against them.

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1 minute ago, thehorseofpower said:

Did anyone watch the 20/20 episode featuring interviews with two of the Turpin children last night? I can't stop thinking about Jordan, the now 21-year-old who was the one to climb out of the window and call 911 to end the abuse. She came across to me as so immensely bright and curious and very positive about life despite all that has happened to her. It was not surprising to me after hearing her talk that she was the one who escaped and made the call. I can't fathom how she has retained such a brightness about her after what was done to her and just think how extremely strong she must be for her parents to have failed to destroy that part of her. Just put into perspective how important the force of one's innate personality must have to be to escape from these abusive upbringings.

It was also so sad to hear how badly the state seems to have failed the children after their removal from the home. It seems they have not been well supported in their transition to independent life and they cannot access the hundreds of thousands of dollars that were donated to them after their rescue. Terribly sad that some of the adult children continue to struggle with consistent housing and food after the horrible situation they dealt with for their entire childhoods. Puts it into perspective how hard it would be for any young adult with a subpar education who's been isolated and kept from developing coping skills with real people in the real world to break free from their seemingly awful families and build their own life. The deck is stacked against them.

Yes. I watched in horror too. It is easy for anyone to say “just leave”. Even if possible the ability to navigate a foreign culture and environment is very difficult.  At the end the show it said that Jaycee Dugard and her foundation are going to try and help the Turpins. She had a similarly horrific story that eluded authorities. 

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BitterApple

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1 hour ago, Absolom said:

The episode is re-airing this afternoon if anyone still wants to catch it.

Thank you for mentioning that, I missed it last night.

1 hour ago, lookeyloo said:

Yes. I watched in horror too. It is easy for anyone to say “just leave”. Even if possible the ability to navigate a foreign culture and environment is very difficult.  At the end the show it said that Jaycee Dugard and her foundation are going to try and help the Turpins. She had a similarly horrific story that eluded authorities. 

I read Jaycee's book. It's tragic and haunting. I wasn't aware she'd started a foundation. I hope she's in a good place in her life, because what she went through was awful. 

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lookeyloo

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Just now, BitterApple said:

Thank you for mentioning that, I missed it last night.

I read Jaycee's book. It's tragic and haunting. I wasn't aware she'd started a foundation. I hope she's in a good place in her life, because what she went through was awful. 

I did google her (also read the book and watched some shows about her early on) and she does seem to be in a good place.

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4 hours ago, thehorseofpower said:

Did anyone watch the 20/20 episode featuring interviews with two of the Turpin children last night? I can't stop thinking about Jordan, the now 21-year-old who was the one to climb out of the window and call 911 to end the abuse. She came across to me as so immensely bright and curious and very positive about life despite all that has happened to her. It was not surprising to me after hearing her talk that she was the one who escaped and made the call. I can't fathom how she has retained such a brightness about her after what was done to her and just think how extremely strong she must be for her parents to have failed to destroy that part of her. Just put into perspective how important the force of one's innate personality must have to be to escape from these abusive upbringings.

It was also so sad to hear how badly the state seems to have failed the children after their removal from the home. It seems they have not been well supported in their transition to independent life and they cannot access the hundreds of thousands of dollars that were donated to them after their rescue. Terribly sad that some of the adult children continue to struggle with consistent housing and food after the horrible situation they dealt with for their entire childhoods. Puts it into perspective how hard it would be for any young adult with a subpar education who's been isolated and kept from developing coping skills with real people in the real world to break free from their seemingly awful families and build their own life. The deck is stacked against them.

I watched it and was also appalled at the lack of assistance they got after escaping. That would never happen in most other 1st world countries. There is no excuse for how they were treated.

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3 hours ago, BitterApple said:

Thank you for mentioning that, I missed it last night.

I read Jaycee's book. It's tragic and haunting. I wasn't aware she'd started a foundation. I hope she's in a good place in her life, because what she went through was awful. 

I reread her book recently. Tragic and haunting is a perfect description. Also frequently horrifying.  Did you read her follow up book?  I think it was called “My Book of Firsts” or something like that. I have some Amazon digital credits so I might buy it soon. I’m interested to read her experiences after her rescue. 

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CouchTater

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I watched the Turpin ladies last night, and just wow.  What an existence.  Their resilience is amazing.

But I'm not surprised "the system" has failed them so spectacularly.  Which old tv show had a tagline like "there are a million stories in the city, this is just one?"  How many foster kids can tell that story of mistreatment in and from the system, and release from the system unprepared and unskilled for the world?

Having said that, though, I don't understand why they can't access money that was donated to them.  Or why that money hasn't been returned to those who gave.  That seems to warrant an investigation.

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I got home a few hours ago after an eventful morning drive. I spent the night in Trinidad CO, about 3.5 to 4 hours down the Interstate from home. This morning I was driving on the interstate halfway home, when the low tire pressure light in the dashboard lit up. I was looking for an exit with services to check it out, when I heard a pop and knew that a tire had gone from leaking air to blown out. Pulled off onto the shoulder as far as I could and called AAA. I fount that it was scary to be sitting there in a decent sized vehicle that was rocked by the wind created by the high speed traffic passing by to my left. 

And, behold, yet more proof that all heroes don't wear capes. Many (I think most) of them wear safety vests and drive trucks. I'd called AAA and the closest store of the tire store chain where I'd bought the tires, and was waiting for the AAA tow, when a young man driving a Les Schwab tire store pickup truck stopped and asked if he could help. I was waiting for the tow I thought I'd need, which was on the way, and it wasn't a tire from his store chain, so I declined. BUT he voluntarily moved his truck to stay parked behind my car, with his truck's emergency lights going, as an extra safety measure given the fast and heavy traffic on the road. The AAA guy arrived and was very helpful, the minivan didn't need a tow, he got the old doughnut spare aired up and working and mounted, and I was able to drive to the tire store. Where on a super busy Saturday they replaced the tire for free  and had my car in the service bay almost as soon as I drove up.

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BetyBee

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I watched the Turpin daughters on 20/20 last night. It was fascinating! I'm so glad that the siblings have come so far. Sadly, they haven't received all the help and safety they certainly deserve. I'm so glad that their horrid parents are in prison for life. It was somewhat satisfying to see the parents in chains at their trial! Jordan has so much strength and I'm so glad she got her siblings rescued from that house of horrors. Both daughters were so expressive and thoughtful. They are smart women and I wish the best for all of the siblings.

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I watched the 20/20 episode about the Turpins this afternoon (thank goodness for on demand).  I’m still shaking.  I cannot fathom the atrocities that those children were made to suffer at the hands of the people who claim to be their parents.

The courage of Jordan Turpin is amazing.  When I saw her on the sheriff’s body camera image, I cannot imagine that she had never spoken to someone outside her family, nor could I believe that she did not know what “medication “ was.  I admire the way she stood up to her parents and got help for her siblings.  I also had trouble believing that she did not know what her address was or that you should walk on the sidewalk (or even know what the sidewalk was).  

The fact that the state workers who were charged with the care of those children after the arrest of the so-called parents were also neglectful is even more tragic. 
 

I pray that by bringing the story of this family out in the open again, that they can begin to heal and receive whatever help they need to become who they are meant to be.  Thank you to everyone involved in this report, especially Diane Sawyer and the Riverside County DA.  I eagerly await a follow up report.

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My dad died this morning local time. I'm in the US and my parents live in Europe. We were supposed to visit in March 2020 and literally canceled that trip 2 days before flying out because Covid happened. We haven't been able to reschedule that trip due to a combination of finances(flights prices have skyrocketed), and Covid and were hoping for next spring. 

 

It's comforting that he's not in pain anymore but it doesn't make it easier. 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, galaxygirl76 said:

My dad died this morning local time. I'm in the US and my parents live in Europe. We were supposed to visit in March 2020 and literally canceled that trip 2 days before flying out because Covid happened. We haven't been able to reschedule that trip due to a combination of finances(flights prices have skyrocketed), and Covid and were hoping for next spring. 

 

It's comforting that he's not in pain anymore but it doesn't make it easier. 

 

 

So sorry to hear this. COVID has been tough on a lot of plans and people. Hopefully your good memories of your dad will bring you comfort.

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Scarlett45

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3 hours ago, galaxygirl76 said:

My dad died this morning local time. I'm in the US and my parents live in Europe. We were supposed to visit in March 2020 and literally canceled that trip 2 days before flying out because Covid happened. We haven't been able to reschedule that trip due to a combination of finances(flights prices have skyrocketed), and Covid and were hoping for next spring. 

 

It's comforting that he's not in pain anymore but it doesn't make it easier. 

 

 

I am so sorry for your loss. 

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I would like to request good thoughts and prayers also. My cousin ( J) was killed in an accident at work yesterday. I am not sure what happened and not sure if I really want to know. It's hard for me,I mean I only saw him once a year at Thanksgiving but I knew he was THERE and if I needed him he would do anything for me and now he is gone. However for his mom (R) it is devastating. This is the second child she has lost. His sister (V) was killed whern we were 13, by a drunk driver, she was a day older than me. Losing two children  to preventable  accidents is just...no words. Also, he died yesterday, today is V's birthday so she does not even have that day that does not have sorrow attached. 

iwantcookies

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11 hours ago, galaxygirl76 said:

My dad died this morning local time. I'm in the US and my parents live in Europe. We were supposed to visit in March 2020 and literally canceled that trip 2 days before flying out because Covid happened. We haven't been able to reschedule that trip due to a combination of finances(flights prices have skyrocketed), and Covid and were hoping for next spring. 

 

It's comforting that he's not in pain anymore but it doesn't make it easier. 

 

 

Sending you my deepest condolences 💐 

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