S16.E12: One on One (Part 2)

[Kellyee]

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One thing I didn't understand was when Robyn was talking about not feeling like there was a safe space for some discussions. Once again the interviewer dropped the ball, and didn't ask what she meant by that. Was she alluding to Kody being possibly physically violent? Emotionally abusive? (Which we have already seen at least with Meri and Christine).  WTH is up with the interviewer that she did not ask for clarification?OR did she and it was edited out? 

I think "safe space" is a bullshit term they are using to excuse why they didn't come out and tell each other what they were really thinking and feeling. I don't believe Kody is physically abusive, or even extremely emotionally or verbally abusive. Kody is a garden-variety asshole, and these women have chosen to put up with his shit for years. Some of that responsibility is on them too. 

I also believe Janelle that Christine didn't speak up before, and that Christine may be rewriting history a bit because she's unhappy now. I've seen people do it before when they are getting divorced. I don't think Christine was miserable for the entire marriage. As much as Christine claimed to be overwhelmed, I don't think she wanted to go out and get a full time job and do that instead of childcare. I think the situation worked for Christine in may aspects that she's not completely admitting to now because it doesn't fit the Basement Wife narrative.

All these people have an agenda. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Kid]

8 hours ago, Kbo said:

Robyn:  I’ve never cried so much in an interview

Sukanya:

Yet not a tear.  That tissue was as dry as a bone!

[mythoughtis]

I do not think the child care situation is what overwhelmed Christine.   It was the marital situation.  We saw from the very first season that Christine  felt she and her children were  less important to Kody than Meri and Robyn. She may not have told Janelle at the time, but she certainly told the cameras.   she began asking for him to step up in Vegas.  The wrestling mats were in her garage because she thought that would encourage Kody to show up there. He chastised her repeatedly and just told her only the family mattered.  
Janelle says there was no hierarchy.  But there was,  we saw it as viewers. Meri was head wife before Robyn became head wife.  That legal divorce completed the shift. Janelle just doesn’t want to accept the truth, even though she was deeply hurt that Kody didn’t  discuss that divorce and remarriage with her before it happened. We have her on camera stating  this swap was going to change the family dynamic.  Why would she say that if there was no hierarchy? 

Edited February 7, 2022 by mythoughtis

[Flutterby]

At this point, I'd almost be willing to pay for Sobyn Robyn to get some acting lessons.  😏

[TeeMo]

Ariella just turned six in real time. I have no idea when these interviews were filmed but Robyn might want to look into some sort of interventions if at 4-5 years old she could not remember the names of her siblings. I have little cousins I maybe see 3-4 times per year and they never forgot my name at 4 years old. Good grief. 
 

I was once again filled with rage seeing the clip of Robyn telling her kids that Janelle and Christine were not coming for Thanksgiving. There was a reasonable (and true!) way to convey that information without turning it into some dramatic rejection of your family. All she had to say was that COVID was making things complicated, the older kids working and living out of town could not easily comply with the “protaculls” and for that reason this Thanksgiving would be a lot of smaller get togethers but everyone was going to work together to be together for Christmas. Lots of families adjusted their holiday plans in 2020(and 2021!) but there was Robyn’s equally dramatic daughter crying like all of this was a personal affront to her thanks to the way Robyn presented it. Dayton had the best reaction when he just kind of shrugged at the news.  

[chuckity]

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Robyn:  "Any time a wife is, in a plural family, is controlling a husband enough to affect other relationships, I think she is a bad person. " 

Does Robyn think we can't see she is the "bad person" she describes?

 

 

 

[Elodia]

41 minutes ago, Kid said:

Yet not a tear.  That tissue was as dry as a bone!

Did you know: That's the very tissue Robyn first used in Season 1, Episode 1 and has used in every other episode since. And it's still as good as new 😉

[Cetacean]

6 hours ago, Nickieca said:

Wonder if the next tell all...the host will delve more into the marriage to Robyn ...were the kids legally adopted..but yet see their bio father..or was it just a legal name change?..and how Meri  and the others wives feel about that now?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA......oh, you're serious? 

Never once in all of these "tell all" episodes  has anything been revealed.  They have been dubbed "tell nothings" for a reason.  The interviewers are useless, the questions are censored.  This is orchestrated to keep viewers watching this crap year after year, hoping for some actual information.

Well as the old saying goes....Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me twice, shame on me. 

[Julyolo]

It seems they have all drifted from the original premise of the show, which was this lifestyle was an adjunct of their faith. All the angst now is about each other. Christine said she does not want polygamy anymore, basically Kody passively aggressively said the same. Meri is lost in motivational insta postings, Janelle bobs along like a barge. Nothing about how they addressed family worship during Covid, which was a huge issue for a lot of people. I think they have all come to worship  TLC $..........and attention.

[RedDelicious]

9 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I support Kody’s position on Covid precautions, but he might have gotten more support from the family members if he had offered to pay the kids cash for complying and provide the wives some hot lovin’!😉

He might have gotten more support from his family if he was actually following his own protocols (which he wasn’t) and if he communicated his expectations in a timely manner (which he didn’t).

(Christine’s whisper) It was never about covid protocols.

[BAForever]

2 hours ago, Kellyee said:

I think "safe space" is a bullshit term they are using to excuse why they didn't come out and tell each other what they were really thinking and feeling. I don't believe Kody is physically abusive, or even extremely emotionally or verbally abusive. Kody is a garden-variety asshole, and these women have chosen to put up with his shit for years. Some of that responsibility is on them too. 

I also believe Janelle that Christine didn't speak up before, and that Christine may be rewriting history a bit because she's unhappy now. I've seen people do it before when they are getting divorced. I don't think Christine was miserable for the entire marriage. As much as Christine claimed to be overwhelmed, I don't think she wanted to go out and get a full time job and do that instead of childcare. I think the situation worked for Christine in may aspects that she's not completely admitting to now because it doesn't fit the Basement Wife narrative.

All these people have an agenda. 

 

 

 

 

 

Agree so much. However,  I do think a lot of therapists and counselors might call Kody abusive because of how he withholds affection to his wives and children. He is, at the very least, an absentee parent to many of the younger children. 

[Granny58]

10 hours ago, Meowwww said:

Kodouche, respect is earned.  Period.  Going on and on about his boys not respecting him. What a nozzle. 

this aspect is what really stood out for me.  He wants total adoration.  You don't get that from adults (males in particular) without earning it.  Mindboggling.  If he were a medieval king he's be yelling "off with their heads!"

[RedDelicious]

10 hours ago, UsernameFatigue said:

One thing I didn't understand was when Robyn was talking about not feeling like there was a safe space for some discussions. Once again the interviewer dropped the ball, and didn't ask what she meant by that. Was she alluding to Kody being possibly physically violent? Emotionally abusive? (Which we have already seen at least with Meri and Christine).  WTH is up with the interviewer that she did not ask for clarification?OR did she and it was edited out? 

My interpretation of safe space for discussion, coming from Robyn, means that a safe space is when Kody is present to defend Robyn from other family members calling her out or holding her/them accountable for Kody/Robyn's manipulation, lies and victimhood.

For example if one of the other kids calls her up and asks her why they can't come over when they have done X, Y and Z, and Kody isn't there to stare them down through the phone, that is not a safe space in Robyn's world.

[Granny58]

3 hours ago, Kellyee said:

I don't believe Kody is physically abusive, or even extremely emotionally or verbally abusive.

I think he is emotionally abusive though because he withholds his "favor" from whomever he is pissed at.  Emotional manipulation.  

3 hours ago, Kellyee said:

I don't think Christine was miserable for the entire marriage.

In fact, there was one season where we were commenting on how happy she was and what types of pills she was taking.  

[RedDelicious]

10 hours ago, UsernameFatigue said:

WHAT. DOES. THE. NANNY. DO??????

I'm staying with Silkwooding the mail.

[Granny58]

2 hours ago, TeeMo said:

I was once again filled with rage seeing the clip of Robyn telling her kids that Janelle and Christine were not coming for Thanksgiving. There was a reasonable (and true!) way to convey that information without turning it into some dramatic rejection of your family. All she had to say was that COVID was making things complicated, the older kids working and living out of town could not easily comply with the “protaculls” and for that reason this Thanksgiving would be a lot of smaller get togethers but everyone was going to work together to be together for Christmas. Lots of families adjusted their holiday plans in 2020(and 2021!)

and all over the country, once children become adults and move out holiday plans get adjusted all the time....sometimes you don't even see some people.   And the world keeps spinning. 

[islandgal140]

Saw this elsewhere, had a good giggle over it and thought I would share here.

Kody, its a little late in the game to want the authority and respect of a father.  He is not the ALPHA he thinks he is.  There is no way a single man can adequately parent that many kids with multiple wives. IMHO, it just can't be done. He was essentially a golden retriever with somewhat boundless energy who flitted from household to household and spend 2 days a week at best with them. He'd show up ruffle their heads, giving out meme-like advice and muttering platitudes.   Plus, since the addition of Robyn he hasn't been fully mentally present with non-Robyn kids.  Now at the 12th hour, when they are grown, he's fucking Mussolini. That is not how any of this works.

Christine seemed so at peace and lighter. 

10 hours ago, meligator said:

We learned Janelle is totally fine not having sex with Kody.

So Robyn is now 100% confirmed to be his one true wife. 

I thought Christine's take on Janelle and her marriage to Kody was diplomatically put and well stated. Janelle fills her own tank. Janelle is some kind of weird breed that I don't really understand. I think she is fine time-sharing a piece of man, as long as she gets to say she has a husband. 

Christine saying yeah no thanks to a friendship with Robyn was everything! 

9 hours ago, Joan of Argh said:

Exactly and IIRC it was linebacker Meri who stepped in and broke up the fight and scolded them… meanwhile Kody was *crickets*

He’s useless 

If I remember correctly, some of the adults (Janelle but I think mainly Christine) were actually angry with Meri because how 'dare she discipline their kids.' Granted, I understand they both don't have the best relationship with Meri, but jeez, wasn't that one of the much touted benefits of that plyg life? Many moms?  The kids were freakin' throwing punches and an adult stepped up and put a stop to it. It was one of the few times when I was on Meri's side. 

Watching Robyn or Goblyn (as I am currently resorting to calling her) fake cry on tv was quite the sight. I mean WTF!?!? Her eyes weren't red, her eyes didn't even look like they were moist! WTF was she wiping at?!?! I just know she must have put micro-tears in the sensitive skin around her eyes dragging that dry ass tissue across them again and again. Enjoy even more crow's feet.

Did she attend the Michael Scarn school of acting and improv? That was so bad it was funny.

TLC is really doing Meri wrong repeatedly showing her walking from behind.  I don't think I have ever had the displeasure of seeing and actually using the word 'lumbering' to describe a woman's walk before in my entire life. 

The nanny is more a part of the Brown's lives than Meri is at this point. 

[kicotan]

Interviewer: “ Kody, 18 is not an adult.”

The entire U.S. military, cigarette and retail cannabis dealers, landlords, the U.S. voting system, car dealerships, state-benefit systems for children, real estate agents, private gun dealers, the IRS, the court system-criminal and civil, strip clubs and the entire legal porn industry: “Say WHAT?”

[TeeMo]

My issue with the Kody adult/not adult situation is that he wants the adult kids to not live at home with their mothers anymore or rely on him in any way for support but also still follow all of his rules and consider him their leader. If your son is an adult like you claim you want him to be then he gets to lead himself, Kody. 

[Mr. Miner]

Some of those kids are probably marking the days off of the calendar until they're eighteen. Then they can get away from their asshat POS "father".

[queenbee24]

5 minutes ago, TeeMo said:

My issue with the Kody adult/not adult situation is that he wants the adult kids to not live at home with their mothers anymore or rely on him in any way for support but also still follow all of his rules and consider him their leader. If your son is an adult like you claim you want him to be then he gets to lead himself, Kody. 

and he doesn't apply the 18 and out rule across the board since Robyn's precious and apparently stunted children don't have to leave the nest. Heck Day-un just turned 22! 22 is WAY into adulthood.

[bichonblitz]

Just when I thought I couldn't dislike Sobbyn more.....she shows up kleenex in tow ready to NOT answer any questions! She knew exactly what she was doing. 

Why did the interviewer let it go on so long? They should have gone to a break and then tell Sobbyn if she doesn't get it together and start talking in real sentences without the fake tears they will have to remove her from her segments. Nobody wanted to see that! But yet they torture us with her tearless closeups. 

Meri is going to lie, lie, lie until the checks stop coming. Everything is fine. I still love Kody. We have to work on the relationship. I'm not giving up. Sure, Meri, sure. 

Maybe Janelle doesn't have much of a sex drive. It happens to a lot of us when going in to menopause. Christine even said she wasn't sure if Janelle wanted to have her love tank filled!

[MsMalin]

Why did nobody bring up that the Nanny was the one to get covid?

Nice of Kody to  call his wives Jackwagons

[Chicklet]

Having this show is just an easier way to earn money than getting a real job. They would rather put their totally dysfunctional "family" on tv for our enjoyment because they are lazy. 

Kody is a crap father, Robyn is a very poor actress, Meri is playing a long con (I'm not sure if I support her in this or not yet hmm), Janelle is happy in her confused cocoon, and Christine has just woken up from her plyg-induced nonsense but could still be in on the con herself. 

Kody just should stop pretending to have more children than are in Robyn's house. He puts in no effort and I hope all his kids go no-contact because they are getting nothing from their sperm donor.

Why do I watch again? 

[Jeanne222]

12 hours ago, Adeejay said:

I think Robyn should keep her opinion about Christine’s decision regarding her relationship with Kody to herself. Perhaps, she should try to understand Christine’s perspectives, experiences, or motivations before making a judgement about her.  Kody treats Robyn completely different than he treats the other spouses, so there is no way she feels Christine’s pain. The audacity of that woman. She has a lot of nerves!

Karma is a bitch and when Kody Brown shows up with a fresh and young bride then and only then will Robyn feel Christine’s pain!

[kicotan]

Interviewer:  “ So, Janelle, do you want to be Robyns friend?”

Janelle:  “Well, uh, the desire is there but, uh, you know, I just don’t know “

Interviewer: “Well, do you want to have a deeper relationship, a good sister wife relationship with her?”

Janelle:  “Well, you know, um like, I don’t know, I just, uh, I don’t know, I just don’t know, Y’know the relationship Christine and I have is because we were raising kids together, so, haha, y’know I just don’t know, you know I felt really put on the spot with that conversation so I was like, well I don’t know, I just don’t know, y’know, I don’t know”

I had NO idea Janelle could tap dance that fast.

[Ms.Lulu]

29 minutes ago, kicotan said:

Interviewer: “ Kody, 18 is not an adult.”

The entire U.S. military, cigarette and retail cannabis dealers, landlords, the U.S. voting system, car dealerships, state-benefit systems for children, real estate agents, private gun dealers, the IRS, the court system-criminal and civil, strip clubs and the entire legal porn industry: “Say WHAT?”

It could be different here, but you have to be 21 to buy cigarettes and cannabis in Oregon.  And real estate agents and car dealerships will require a guarantor on any loan for an 18 year old.

Yes, you can enlist, vote, buy guns, pay taxes (but still be a dependent on a parent's return), go to jail, participate in porn and attend an alcohol free strip club.  

I would not have a problem with raising these to 21.  This is my experience as a parent, a mentor and a former child.  :)

 

 

 

[WhatAmIWatching]

3 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

Karma is a bitch and when Kody Brown shows up with a fresh and young bride then and only then will Robyn feel Christine’s pain!

🙏 🙏 🙏 A much younger bride who has kids already (and who urgently needs the legal marriage for some reason) who is more manipulative and devious than Sobbyn!

[SunnyBeBe]

Well, the gloves have come off a lot more than we’ve ever seen before with the Browns, however, I would still like to get the real low down on the truth.  For example, Janelle, say what you really think about getting closer to Robyn….lol!  Maybe, they hold back due to the children.  Sol and Ariella can’t help it.  

[TurtlePower]

42 minutes ago, kicotan said:

Interviewer: “ Kody, 18 is not an adult.”

The entire U.S. military, cigarette and retail cannabis dealers, landlords, the U.S. voting system, car dealerships, state-benefit systems for children, real estate agents, private gun dealers, the IRS, the court system-criminal and civil, strip clubs and the entire legal porn industry: “Say WHAT?”

It’s 21 now for tobacco, cannabis and certain ammunition. And strip clubs vary, but it’s 21 for most of those, too (I pole danced my way through college, kinda familiar with that). 

But I get your point, at 18 you can legally go off on your own—you just can’t do a lot of the things until you’re 21. 

[xwordfanatik]

12 hours ago, Joan of Argh said:

Sex with Kody 🤢🤮

I'm just now starting to read the comments, but I have to say:  if I had to have sex w/Kootie, I'd staple a picture of Sam Elliot circa 1990's to his forehead. 

I'll be back after I read more, but I also need to ask Sukanya for part 3 to puleeeeze! call out Robyn for her endless fake crying histrionics.

[kicotan]

2 minutes ago, TurtlePower said:

It’s 21 now for tobacco, cannabis and certain ammunition. And strip clubs vary, but it’s 21 for most of those, too (I pole danced my way through college, kinda familiar with that). 

But I get your point, at 18 you can legally go off on your own—you just can’t do a lot of the things until you’re 21. 

Thanks and I get your point, too.  I didn’t want my point to get lost in too many different jurisdictional exceptions but I also didn’t mean to say EVERY legal brothel has the same minimum age requirement for prostitutes as patrons in every county in Nevada, for example.  My larger point was that the “age of majority” is considered 18 for MANY things, in MANY places/state systems in the US.  Not ALL states or even counties within a state have the exact same regulations, but federal systems like IRS, military service, court systems, voting age, etc clearly differentiate between before and after reaching 18 years old.

[SongbirdHollow]

Robyn is just mad because she can’t be HBIC if all the other bitches bail out. 

[applewood]

I don't understand. What does Kody expect Gabe and Garrison to do? Don't they both have jobs and/or are going to school? Are they supposed to quit their jobs? Other people have managed to work during this Covid period.

Also, why are they so shocked that Christine would want to leave? Why would anyone want to stay in a marriage like that?

I wish they would have a spinoff show with Janelle and Christine living in Utah on their own. Having adventure, living life, dating again...

The intro song could be "Unwritten"  "Live your life with arms wide open
Today is where your book begins"  :)

[xwordfanatik]

12 hours ago, crimson23 said:

Robyn uses those fake tears to deflect and to stall answering the questions.  

Right?  She's buying time enough to come up with a (plausible?) LIE.  Her pants should self-ignite.

[magemaud]

4 hours ago, Elodia said:

Did you know: That's the very tissue Robyn first used in Season 1, Episode 1 and has used in every other episode since. And it's still as good as new

It's going in the Smithsonian! 

[magemaud]

13 hours ago, Joan of Argh said:

That tissue is dry as a bone no matter how hard she grinds it into her eyeball trying to produce a tear

Amazingly her makeup is totally intact! 

1 hour ago, bichonblitz said:

Maybe Janelle doesn't have much of a sex drive. It happens to a lot of us when going in to menopause. Christine even said she wasn't sure if Janelle wanted to have her love tank filled!

Am I the only person whose mind went elsewhere when I thought of Janelle "filling her tank" herself? 

[Elizzikra]

12 hours ago, deirdra said:

In the first year or two of the show, there was a fist fight in a parking with all 21 Browns present. I think it was Paedon, Hunter & Garrison punching each other.  The obvious person to break it up would have been their mutual father and wrestling promoter, Kody. But he did nothing.  NOT a good father!

Goodness! What were they fighting about?

[the-grey-lady]

Kody [on his relationship with Garrison]: It needs a lot of work.

Me: Then it'll never get better. Lord knows you don't like to work.

[Emmeline]

A few episodes back when Kody was trimming those logs with his boys and he said in regard to Robyn “because she is the obedient wife” It spoke volumes.  

[Granny58]

47 minutes ago, applewood said:

I wish they would have a spinoff show with Janelle and Christine living in Utah on their own.

Sadly, Janelle seems content and won't be leaving. 

[Nickieca]

Wasn’t one of Janelle’s boys wanting to come back home so he could save up for a deposit for a house? Who cares if he’s over 18, that what loving parents do..open up their homes and support their children a little longer if they can and it means they can get a head start, esp in today’s world...Kody comparing himself and life at 18 to his kids is ridiculous, times have changed since then.

[Elizzikra]

2 minutes ago, Nickieca said:

Wasn’t one of Janelle’s boys wanting to come back home so he could save up for a deposit for a house? Who cares if he’s over 18, that what loving parents do..open up their homes and support their children a little longer if they can and it means they can get a head start, esp in today’s world...Kody comparing himself and life at 18 to his kids is ridiculous, times have changed since then.

Yes and he did just buy a townhouse and adopt a cat. He’s doing fine without Kody.

[Kellyee]

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For example, Janelle, say what you really think about getting closer to Robyn….lol!

What does Janelle think about anything, like ever?? Janelle is the Switzerland/vanilla ice cream of this bunch. She goes along to get along, but I honestly wouldn't trust her. Because I think when it comes to the other people in this "marriage", Janelle will mostly side with whoever is in the room with her. I'm glad she at least stands up for her kids, but her passive manner and refusal to give an opinion or say what she's really feeling would drive me crazy. I don't Meri was the only problem in the relationship with Meri and Janelle. Janelle doesn't communicate, while Christine is theatrical and over-emotional. I don't like Robyn, but she's not the only problem in this marriage. The other three were messed up and toxic before she ever arrived on the scene. 

If Janelle doesn't want to make things better with Robyn, say so. If she doesn't want to resolve anything with Meri, say so. Instead, Janelle just shrugs and says she'll think about it, which really means NO, but for whatever reason she doesn't have the balls to just say that. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Pingaponga]

Kody talks a lot about requiring loyalty and respect, and yet has no concept that they (a) are earned and (b) are best if reciprocated.

So much has been said this season. SO much. I feel badly for the kids who have watched this and heard what Kody has said about them, their mother, another mother. This family has been wrecked from the inside out.

[WhatAmIWatching]

17 minutes ago, Nickieca said:

Wasn’t one of Janelle’s boys wanting to come back home so he could save up for a deposit for a house? Who cares if he’s over 18, that what loving parents do..open up their homes and support their children a little longer if they can and it means they can get a head start, esp in today’s world...Kody comparing himself and life at 18 to his kids is ridiculous, times have changed since then.

The fact that Kovid seems quite bitter about getting kicked out at 18 himself speaks volumes to me.( Isn't that why he went on his mission because Winn kicked him out?) Why wouldn't he want to give his kids an easier start into adulthood than he had? He is one cold and selfish butthead.

  The Browns don't discuss things openly and truthfully. When we've seen them talk about things, it always felt like circle-talk, therapy speak, or Meri's meme posts. The last season, it's felt like a game of telephone: "Well I heard that Christine was saying she was fed up" "Well I heard and read on social media that the boys were not adhering to the protaculls"  What's so hard about speaking directly to the person in question and ironing out conflicts?

Meri saying that relationships are hard made me sad because it doesn't have to be like that.

[Adiba]

At this point, if I were the interviewer, I’d ask Kody “What do you want realistically, going forward?”  Does he really want Meri clinging like a barnacle to their “marriage” and Janelle just going with the flow (except when it comes to her kids) so that when he dies the VIP section of heaven will let him in? 
Robyn needs to shut up about Christine. Christine tried for years with Kody and it got her to this point. 

[SunnyBeBe]

1 hour ago, xwordfanatik said:

I'm just now starting to read the comments, but I have to say:  if I had to have sex w/Kootie, I'd staple a picture of Sam Elliot circa 1990's to his forehead. 

I'll be back after I read more, but I also need to ask Sukanya for part 3 to puleeeeze! call out Robyn for her endless fake crying histrionics.

Sam Elliott of any year!  Oh yes!

I wonder if they paid Robyn to fake cry.  Maybe that was planned, because if not for that, the episode would have been a lot more boring.  Definitely, struck a cord with viewers.  🤣

Meri fake cries the best, but viewers are sort of zoned out on that now days.  

[Cetacean]

16 minutes ago, Adiba said:

Does he really want Meri clinging like a barnacle to their “marriage” and Janelle just going with the flow (except when it comes to her kids) so that when he dies the VIP section of heaven will let him in? 

This is the real tell on the whole "religious" angle to this shitshow.  If he truly believed in the whole Personal Planet story, he'd be moving heaven and earth to keep the wimmin folk in line.  Instead, he's made no mention of the "tennants" (TM Robyn) of their "faith" that is supposed to be a driving force behind polygamy.  Instead he's shedding them like dandruff -  or his hair.

Ugh, now I can't get Kootie's "driving force" out  of my mind.  Where did I put that brain bleach.

[OldWiseOne]

6 hours ago, TeeMo said:

I was once again filled with rage seeing the clip of Robyn telling her kids that Janelle and Christine were not coming for Thanksgiving. There was a reasonable (and true!) way to convey that information without turning it into some dramatic rejection of your family. All she had to say was that COVID was making things complicated, the older kids working and living out of town could not easily comply with the “protaculls” and for that reason this Thanksgiving would be a lot of smaller get togethers but everyone was going to work together to be together for Christmas. Lots of families adjusted their holiday plans in 2020(and 2021!) but there was Robyn’s equally dramatic daughter crying like all of this was a personal affront to her thanks to the way Robyn presented it. Dayton had the best reaction when he just kind of shrugged at the news.  

Yes this! How about mentioning that they are choosing to spend Thanksgiving with their adult children that no longer live at home? Or does Sobbyn not want her kids to realise they can move out once they turn 18?