S19.E08: Couch Couture

[FormerMod-a1]

 

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The designers are challenged to solve one of fashion's eternal struggles: if comfortable can really be chic; there's nothing comfortable about designing for a one day challenge with a surprise visit from Geoffrey Mac and Cyndi Lauper.

Original air date: December 9, 2021

[T Summer]

I liked Kristina, Bones  and AAron's looks best. Shantal's was nice too. I don't know if  anyone would really wear   them to  work from home and maybe run out on an errand.

 

Zayden's look would have been more impressive on a  model that wasn't plus sized, unfortunately for him. Everyone needs fashions and to be considered by designers and clothing companies... it's true, but it's just a fact that  a light colored body conscious jumpsuit is hard to wear and look well in if you're not slim and fit.

It would be very interesting to see Chasity's garment fitted to and modeled by Zayden's model and Zayden's garment fitted to and modeled by Didi.

 

Anna's  taupey brown spagetti strap dress and robe with train that was in the safe category  didn't seem to fit the challenge. Same with Anna's sparkly whatever that was.

 

I tried to rock with Octavio after his strong showing in ep 1 with the red 3 pc look and I even liked the voluminous black gown that garnered all the "garbage bags tied  together"  and "charred bell pepper" critiques... but honestly he's lost the plot. He can go back to Octavio's one trick,  comically disproportioned world.

 

What? Zayden is going home too? He was robbed!!!

[WaltersHair]

Octavio was obviously baking potatoes in Reynold's Wrap during the pandemic. I did like how gracious he was on leaving.

I thought Shantall was robbed. Her look was colorful and comfortable.

 

[SuzySmith]

I thought it was funny when Octavio said that he and Geoffrey ran in the same circles & dressed the same people.  Um, I don't really buy that. Then when the judges were questioning his look, he started to get pissy.  Time to go!

[T Summer]

1 minute ago, WaltersHair said:

Octavio was obviously baking potatoes in Reynold's Wrap during the pandemic. I did like how gracious he was on leaving.

I thought Shantall was robbed. Her look was colorful and comfortable.

 

He's baked, alright.

[Straycat80]

Although I love Cindy Lauper I don’t understand why her and Geoffrey were there except to promote awareness to her skin condition.

I’m surprised there was two eliminations, not sorry to see Octavio go because…those sleeves (!)…but was hoping Jayden could have stayed. The outfit was sloppy but the puffer coat was cool.

I couldn’t tell if Kristina’s winning look was pants, dress, both. I like Chasity’s pants and Aaron’s weren’t so bad either. 
What’s wrong with Elaine? She seems off. She thought Aaron’s top wasn’t chic enough but then when he showed her the little bandeau bra underneath then she thought it was. Uh, Really? 

Edited December 10, 2021 by Straycat80

[lgprimes]

What is going on with our girl Cyndi?!

I have never seen her so low energy. Is anybody else worried?

[littlebennysmom]

6 minutes ago, SuzySmith said:

I thought it was funny when Octavio said that he and Geoffrey ran in the same circles & dressed the same people.  Um, I don't really buy that. Then when the judges were questioning his look, he started to get pissy.  Time to go!

"I sell lots of these!"

Probably not the thing to let slip for an original design challenge, Octavio.

The pink feathered pumps, lmao! 

 

[CraftyHazel]

Elaine can miss me with calling Aaron’s look “frumpy” while liking Prajjé’s.  I thought Aaron’s was absolutely gorgeous.  Kristina’s was good, Chasity’s was good, and I was okay with Bones’ look and Coral’s.  I would have put Anna in the bottom, honestly…it was a basic grey negligee.

I knew as soon as Octavio put those pink feathered pumps on Mimi that he’d be gone.  I will miss Zayden’s beautiful face, but as for his designs, I don’t care one way or the other.  He did seem like a lovely man, though.

[lgprimes]

I agree that Anna should have been in the bottom group. Boring look. Chantal, on the other hand, I would have put in the top. 
Jayden’s outfit really didn’t fit his model tonight, so I can’t argue with him being sent home. I do think he will have a successful career.

[DEL901]

10 minutes ago, littlebennysmom said:

"I sell lots of these!"

Probably not the thing to let slip for an original design challenge, Octavio.

The pink feathered pumps, lmao! 

 

Yeah, his comments were not well thought out.  He kept talking about making this garment np before and how it sold…. Maybe not the best rebuttal to their critique.  

[T Summer]

Just now, lgprimes said:

I agree that Anna should have been in the bottom group. Boring look. Chantal, on the other hand, I would have put in the top. 
Jayden’s outfit really didn’t fit his model tonight, so I can’t argue with him being sent home. I do think he will have a successful career.

I think Shantal's fit the challenge the best and was something women would want to wear. The balls or whatever sewn on would keep it from being something you could sit around in while working from home, though (IMO).

[Ms Blue Jay]

Coral and Zayden's looks were so bad that I had to fast forward through their judging, I couldn't even bear it.

That hasn't happened to me in ages.  I absolutely cringed watching Zayden's outfit come down the runway.  It could not have been worse.

And Coral?  I could so easily see that that was wrong wrong wrong for the challenge.  I don't even want to wear sequins when I go OUT, let alone at home.  Sequins are uncomfortable ANYWHERE - anytime, any place.

I was totally fine with Prajje's look, except for that back animal print vest thing.  Honey, just no.  I feel like their expectations are higher for Prajje which is not fair.  He's better than everyone else, so he's not allowed to do a safe outfit and gets lectured?  Fuck off.

How did Elaine not understand Aaron's look?  It was perfectly 1990s Lisa Bonet.  It was so easy to understand.  And I don't even like Aaron.  There was almost zero difference between Chasity and Aaron's looks.  I swear, all of you have turned me against Elaine now.

Brendan was SUCH a bitch about Octavio's look.  I don't hate Octavio like everyone else.  At least Brendan was 100% right about Zayden (and Prajje, but I'm still fine with Prajje's look.). I liked Anna's!

Edited December 10, 2021 by Ms Blue Jay

[Madding crowd]

Christian sure was helping this episode, giving advice on accessories, sleeves and pretty much everything but actually sewing the garment. I thought styling was always part of the criteria for judging? What if Christian did the styling? I really liked Aaron and Chasity’s outfits . The winning number looked uncomfortable with the dress hanging off. Elaine seems to only like certain designers and won’t listen to any criticism about them. 

[Lassus]

That was.... oddly non-controversial.

[Kaiju Ballet]

Even Mimi couldn't save that horror on the runway. I'm also grateful I won't have to keep cringing at Anna's"Daaaaaddy!!!!" flirtation.

It makes sense that they aufed two designers after the Siriano save, but how did completely-miss-the-challenge-sequin-outfit stay over Zayden's puffer coat overshadowed by challenge-meeting (though ill-fitting) design?

It was very cool hearing about the designer's stay at home outfits during the lockdown. Wonder if any of Bones' neighbors watch Project Runway, lol! 

[SuprSuprElevated]

2 hours ago, lgprimes said:

What is going on with our girl Cyndi?!

I have never seen her so low energy. Is anybody else worried?

Not worried, bored.  Does anyone under 35 know her for anything but psoriasis Rx ads?  She should submit her name for Botox ads next, just in case the Cosentyx money dries up.  This performance was nothing more than an in-show commercial.

[30 Helens]

Bye, Daddy! (Ugh, Anna.)

I’m surprised the judges didn’t call out Octavio’s dress for what it is— a fancy straight jacket. (He says he’s sold a lot of those— maybe to prisons?) I actually didn’t hate it, but the styling made it over-the-top ridiculous, and he earned the loss.

Sadly, I think Zayden did, too. I really like him and wish he had gone further. But that design was bad and really ill fitting. I don’t understand why the designers can’t fit models who are bigger than Size 0 without a bunch of puckering and sloppy seams. Breasts and hips, people! Get used to them. They exist in the real world.

I really liked Christina’s look. (This is how you put dissimilar prints together, Katie.) The one misstep for me was the long headdress down the back. I thought that was a bit much. I’d have been happier with a smaller cap, as seen from the front. 

I agree that Aaron and Chasity made basically the same look. Chasity did it better. Aaron’s looked like it came from Eileen Fisher.

I hate when the judges give someone a pass when they disregard the challenge. No way are sequins Couch Couture. Coral knew she wasn’t following the directive, but she did it anyway. To me, that should result in an automatic elimination. If Zayden had just made up his own challenge, maybe he’d have come up with something better and would still be around. Not fair.

Edited December 10, 2021 by 30 Helens

[Leeds]

10 minutes ago, 30 Helens said:

 

I’m surprised the judges didn’t call out Octavio’s dress for what it is— a fancy straight jacket. (He says he’s sold a lot of those— maybe to prisons?) I actually didn’t hate it, but the styling made it over-the-top ridiculous, and he earned the loss.

A straight jacket for the floppy blow up guy who blows around outside cheap sales.

Edited December 10, 2021 by Leeds

[Leeds]

Sorry there are two yellow men waving at you.  I can't edit it down to one for some reason..

Edited December 10, 2021 by Leeds

[30 Helens]

16 minutes ago, Leeds said:

Sorry there are two yellow men waving at you.  I can't edit it down to one for some reason..

I’ll take two floppy yellow men over one ridiculously-mustached Octavio any day.

[GaT]

2 hours ago, lgprimes said:

What is going on with our girl Cyndi?!

I have never seen her so low energy. Is anybody else worried?

 

32 minutes ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

Not worried, bored.  Does anyone under 35 know her for anything but psoriasis Rx ads?  She should submit her name for Botox ads next, just in case the Cosentyx money dries up.  This performance was nothing more than an in-show commercial.

When she was going to each of the designers, I wondered what was wrong with her. I remember her being a lot more......animated. I wonder if she was on tranqs or something?

[SemiCharmedLife]

I think Coral focused on the "luxe" part of the challenge.  It was described as a comfortable look to go out in.  She referenced some performing artists who wear comfortable, loose fitting designs, made with equally sparkly fabrics.  I thought it was one of the better designs for her plus sized model.  Many others have come up short designing for average and plus sized women (notably Zayden this episode), but that outfit looked really nice on the model.  I didn't care for the bottom of the pants, but the rest of it was flattering.  And, I agree, that sequined fabric seems anything but comfy.

I was surprised by the double elimination. I was ready for Octavio's departure, but am going to miss the wonderful Zayden.  From the first episode, he has left a great impression on me.  

[Fretful]

I can see how Coral's outfit could have worked.  There are lots of one-line events that could use a combination of dress-y and comfort.  Cocktail parties, wine tastings, and concerts are often remote.  You want to dress up a bit to take your mind off the fact that you're basically sitting at home by yourself drinking.

Edited December 10, 2021 by Fretful

[Vermicious Knid]

Personally, I thought the naked lady fabric was hilarious. Too bad it was used to such a boring end. Anna's outfit (I think it was Anna?) from the Flower Power challenge would have been perfect for this. Zayden had such a pretty combination with the patterned fabric and the aqua blue, but he went totally in the wrong direction with the belted sweatsuit (?!) and puffer jacket. A whole lot of this one was just a big yikes.

[BusyOctober]

Octavio’s style isn’t anything I’d ever wear, but I’m not fabulous.  He seems successful as a designer, so good for him.  His brocade sweatshirt dress, minus the sleeve drama, could’ve been OK, but I don’t get the lingerie.  At all.  If it was a “Dressed for a rave and the possible after party” challenge, then I could see the need to flash the garter and undies.  But even in my most depressed, unbalanced, stir crazy moments during COVID lockdown, not once did I feel the urge to get dressed, go outside for a walk, and pull up my dress to expose my sexy undergarments. But, again, I am not a fabulous person going to the cockamamie events the designers dream up.

I like Zander, but the seams and fit of the jumpsuit were horrible.  The poor model had crotch bunching with every step.  And the darts on the boobs were badly done.  It wasn’t flattering at all.  And the plus size model shouldn’t be blamed for any of it.

[jacksgirl]

Have pretty much agreed on the eliminations this season. Shitty though that Zayden probably thought he was in when Octavio was out. They usually warn of a double elimation at some point. Zayden seemed like a kind man, he had the bad luck to draw a bigger model IMO.

[Lassus]

This was the practically the first time I DIDN'T hate what Octavio made, so of course he was auf'd.  Honestly, I thought the reason he went home was that idiotic lingerie pairing and presentation.  The underneath could have been more of a super-sexy workout/active-ish underwear/lingerie thing.  But a (well-made) 80s/90s black garter set?

And while what he MADE didn't work, I would like to not ignore how badly the PRESENTATION of it failed for me.  Lifting up your shirt like a TikTok high school selfie?  Down in the overgarment, full removal, back in the undergarment would have gone a lot better (if the undergarment was better).  He deserved the boot for that even if I feel like he was very very close to making it work.

That being said, if the sequins had gotten the boot over that, I wouldn't have said boo.

That hippie outfit was very good, but it was not as very good as Chasity's, which - even while benefitting from being the first thing down the runway - should have won.

Edited December 10, 2021 by Lassus

[Jodithgrace]

When I'm relaxing at home, if my sequined dress is in the wash, then I go for a garter belt and stockings! Honestly, have none of these people ever relaxed? 

[gibasi]

I would have given the win to Chasity. Those pants were great. I loved the whole outfit.

i did not like Kristina’s look. I thought it was fussy and overly complicated. To me comfort equals easy and hers was not.

i think the problem with designing for the larger models is that the designers are only given one chance to fit the garment. I think more time with the models to adjust the fit would make for better results. If you don’t have enough done to see how it will fit the model it can make for imperfect fits like Zayden’s. I wish he could have stayed. I liked him very much.

[SuzySmith]

1 hour ago, BusyOctober said:

  He seems successful as a designer, so good for him.  

Is he?  We all know he likes grossly oversized proportions - does that happen with how he represents his professional success too?

[TexasGal]

1 hour ago, gibasi said:

 

i did not like Kristina’s look. I thought it was fussy and overly complicated. To me comfort equals easy and hers was not.

 

I laughed after having heard so many designers being told to edit, that Kristina and her unnecessary headscarf and koozie (thank Christian) win the challenge.  There was so much going on there I didn't even know where to look.  I will give her that she has an eye for putting patterns together though.  

[backgroundnoise]

So many designers missed or ignored the brief, even though the clothes they themselves wore during the  pandemic were guides--well, except for the naked guy and underwear guy.

Wasn't Zayden's outfit made of neoprene?  That would not be comfortable, would it, since it doesn't breathe?

I thought Branden was spot on about Octavio's.  Those sleeves were ridiculous.  Imaging lounging on the couch with your laptop and trying to do anything with those sleeves.  Another entry completely missing the mark.  Octavio, if you've really sold hundreds of these, I want proof.

I liked the idea of the challenge and think it's quite relevant.  I know I stocked up on comfy pants.  I liked Aaron's and Chasity's the best, although I don't see someone lounging around in Chasity's.   I was actually fine with the top three and bottom four and didn't care at all which of them won and who was eliminated, as any choice would have been justifiable, IMHO.  I'm glad when they did eliminate two in one show I thought they did both deserve to go.
 

Edited December 10, 2021 by backgroundnoise

[seacliffsal]

I know that I'm not a fashionista-especially since the judges told us all that this was the most talented group of designers they have ever had (I believe that they knew this back in episode 2) and I don't see that so I'm obviously not fashion-forward.  However, I just couldn't with Elaine criticizing Aaron's design while sitting there wearing a tank top with feathers (and I no longer love Aaron [since the previous episode] so that's not why I disagreed with her comments).  I actually thought this was one of the worst runways and that very few designs fit the criteria.  I thought Bones' design was horrible so was surprised he wasn't in the bottom.  Anything with that many mini-straps on the back is not quick and easy (same for Coral's design).  I also don't care for all of these "it's a top, no it's a dress, no it's pants" designs-I get it that Brandon has stated that he loves a reveal so now they all want to have reveals.  But, even Brandon seems over the reveals (as noted while watching Octavio's reveal with the sleeves).  

I'm also tired of lingerie as "street wear" (trademark BOTH Octavio and Anna).  Sure, the select elite that all these designers think they are designing for may wear lingerie as street wear, but I would imagine that the average woman would not wear lingerie as street wear (or maybe I am just old and cranky [which does not necessarily negate wanting nice, appropriate clothes]).

Oh, and whatever they are paying Christian is worth it as he seems to be basically designing and styling every single item going down the runway.

[dleighg]

11 hours ago, lgprimes said:

What is going on with our girl Cyndi?!

I have never seen her so low energy.

she also seemed to be slurring her words a bit

 

11 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

the puffer coat was cool.

 

I can't agree. Why was she wearing it off her shoulders the whole time? Did it not fit properly? (Though I noticed that Zayden was wearing his shirt off his shoulder as well. Maybe that's his schtick)

 

11 hours ago, T Summer said:

The balls or whatever sewn on would keep it from being something you could sit around in while working from home

I had the same thought about the balls. The outfit went from "perfect" for me to "I don't think so"

[BlackberryJam]

You know what is not Couch Couture? Exposed bellies. The COVID 19...lbs was real. People want comfort, not exposure.

That being said, I loved the blue of Kristina's outfit. While I like Aaron's and Chasity's outfits better, I kept thinking the color made me tense. I'd spill on it.

Octavio flat out ignored the brief and made what he wanted. He deserved the boot. While Zayden seems to be a lovely human, his designs really weren't that good. 

[HurricaneVal]

Coral got lucky.  I think she wanted to make what she made, brief be damned.  She was lucky it was actually a really great design, and on another challenge, she might have been in the top, just based on how the judges liked it, but not for this challenge.

Same with Octavio.   He wanted to make what he made, it is just that his aesthetic is more casual.  Though, I have to say that when I'm reaching for couch potato lounging wear, I do not immediately think "girdle, garters, stockings, metallic straight jacket, and feathered heels."  That's just waaaaay too fussy and too much effort and doesn't even look or sound comfortable. 

While Kristina's winning design was comfortable looking, I'm not pulling that out of my closet to wear to watch TV.  That was definitely more resort wear than anything else.  It reminded me quite a bit of something Uli from one of the early seasons would have sent down the runway.  Not bad, but not what I'd want.

I actually liked the safe designs the best, they were more couch potato couture than the others.  Oh well.

[littlebennysmom]

9 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

I’ll take two floppy yellow men over one ridiculously-mustached Octavio any day.

And let us not even speak about his lockdown nightmare when HE DIDN'T EVEN DYE HIS MUSTACHE!  

[SuprSuprElevated]

50 minutes ago, BlackberryJam said:

Octavio flat out ignored the brief and made what he wanted. He deserved the boot. While Zayden seems to be a lovely human, his designs really weren't that good.

This.

The only way I want to see Octavio's sleeved nightmare, is with said sleeves tied behind his back while he's being transported to the nutbarn.

Edited December 10, 2021 by SuprSuprElevated

[Michichick]

4 hours ago, jacksgirl said:

Have pretty much agreed on the eliminations this season. Shitty though that Zayden probably thought he was in when Octavio was out. They usually warn of a double elimation at some point. Zayden seemed like a kind man, he had the bad luck to draw a bigger model IMO.

I thought they handled the double elimination well, since they said “you’re both out” instead of first telling one designer and then the other. I agree that it would be shitty to let one designer think they were in and then give them the boot.

[sempervivum]

I'm pretty sure Aaron was the only contestant who even recognized Cyndi Lauper when she was introduced. Even when Christian said her name, not sure how many knew who she was. I would imagine they weren't keen on having to stop work and make conversation with her during a ONE DAY CHALLENGE, either!

And I was amazed when she basically did a Cosentix commercial instead of being the fourth/guest judge. (It did make me wish, not for the first time, that that medical miracle had been invented in time for my poor psoriasis-suffering father to have benefited from it).

Only enjoyable events of the night were Christian's various noises in reaction to the design disasters he saw happening: 'Oh, Lord!'

[retired watcher]

Some of the designers do not understand the word comfortable. It what universe is a garter belt and stockings comfortable. Only a man.

[meep.meep]

I thought they both deserved their aufs.  Zayden's was just tragic.  Maybe if the blue jacket had actually fit the model, it could have hid some of the monstrosity of the jumpsuit.   On the other hand, if Octavio had paired his giant silver coat with bike shorts and Ugg boots, it would have been kinda cool.

I will never understand the appeal of ear gauges.  I had to avoid looking at Geoffrey during his own season, don't bring him back!

[novhappy]

I was surprised the judges didn’t comment on the puffer coat hanging off the models shoulders. At no point in the runway or judging did she put it all the way on. Either it didn’t fit or that was the intended look. Is anything more actually completely UNCOMFORTABLE than a winter coat hanging off your shoulders?  Another straitjacket. 
Christisn needs to learn how to give feedback without actually doing the design. 

[Kaiju Ballet]

12 hours ago, GaT said:

 

When she was going to each of the designers, I wondered what was wrong with her. I remember her being a lot more......animated. I wonder if she was on tranqs or something?

 

1 hour ago, sempervivum said:

I'm pretty sure Aaron was the only contestant who even recognized Cyndi Lauper when she was introduced. Even when Christian said her name, not sure how many knew who she was. I would imagine they weren't keen on having to stop work and make conversation with her during a ONE DAY CHALLENGE, either!

And I was amazed when she basically did a Cosentix commercial instead of being the fourth/guest judge. (It did make me wish, not for the first time, that that medical miracle had been invented in time for my poor psoriasis-suffering father to have benefited from it).

Only enjoyable events of the night were Christian's various noises in reaction to the design disasters he saw happening: 'Oh, Lord!'

I did feel for Christian when the models filed in past Cyndi, and he called them out for their lack of enthusiasm/icon-recognition. I appreciated Aaron geeking out over her. Agree with @sempervivum I expected/wanted her and Geoffrey to be the guest judges. The one they did have could have been great, but I noticed there were at least two designs on top or bottom where we didn't hear from her. Instead we heard from Elaine, who seems to have the least potential to impact a designer's career. 

I love Geoffrey Mac, and glad to see he's doing well. (He's on my dream list of designers I'd hire for custom clothing if I ever won the lottery) Cyndi's affect may have been even more noticeable because he was so nervous in the workroom visit.

I think Geoffrey gave good advice to each designer that wasn't necessarily shown, but it's a shame they chose to highlight the "go with your first instinct" to Octavio. Speaking of which, that's proof that while Christian may give very specific styling and design advice, it really is on the designer whether or not to apply it. Christian very clearly advised against those pink feathered pumps, which Octavio stubbornly went with anyway. So glad it got called out by the judges.

Also thought it was a very Miley Cyrus outfit--so it might work for a video or photo-shoot, but I doubt even Miley wears that to netflix and chill.  And totally agree with @retired watcher. Octavio always wears the most loose-fitting, comfortable clothes himself, and chose to interpret comfort as those garters and stockings?

Will miss Zayden, but at least he left "Seen" and with a near-win under his belt.

[chitowngirl]

I am not surprised at the double elimination. It seems they always have one after a Save. It puts the members back where they need them.

[vibeology]

1 hour ago, meep.meep said:

On the other hand, if Octavio had paired his giant silver coat with bike shorts and Ugg boots, it would have been kinda cool.

This! When Octavio presented the idea of a girl wearing her boyfriend's hoodie, I was so impressed because that is a great jumping off point for a design like this. But then he Octavio-d all over it. Cute bike shorts, normal sleeves, decent fabric and a good shoe (why did so many people use heels?) would have probably given him a win.

[cpcathy]

I laughed out loud at Brandon saying there would be pizza crumbs in his sequins. 
The winning look really seemed more like resort wear, I liked Aaron’s better, it looked really comfortable and you could throw on some sandals and ru out to the grocery store.

[Lassus]

16 minutes ago, vibeology said:

Cute bike shorts, normal sleeves, decent fabric and a good shoe (why did so many people use heels?) would have probably given him a win.

So you mean a totally different outfit?  :-)

I'm not sure that would have done it, but he certainly wouldn't have gotten knocked out.  

I mean, the sleeves were a specific thing.  They were shown as worn pulled up, no one's wearing them down, it seems unfair to mark him off for such a thing, IMO.  It was a super-wearable outerwear piece.

[Andyourlittledog2]

3 hours ago, sempervivum said:

And I was amazed when she basically did a Cosentix commercial instead of being the fourth/guest judge. (It did make me wish, not for the first time, that that medical miracle had been invented in time for my poor psoriasis-suffering father to have benefited from it).

It's possible she was too whatever was wrong with her to have that much scrutiny actually sitting on the judge's panel so they quickly got a second (!) CFDA person to sit there instead. I thought it was weird that they had a second CFDA person so quickly or at all to sit on the panel. Usually it's all celebrities or guest designers or something and they had a real celebrity right there. Something was wrong with Cyndy that day but I don't know what.

I loved both Aaron's and Chasity's designs. I thought the way Chasity's pants fit with the wide sash area (the word for that escapes me, but around the waist fitted area) would really work best on a person with no fat whatsoever. It would get too snug while lounging around IMO. But it was really pretty on the runway.

It's like none of these designers have ever made a dart before. They always do it so poorly and usually in the wrong place or the wrong length. I thought Zayden's design was a complete nightmare. I do not think the little jacket was capable of being pulled up properly on the model and that's why she wore it half off the way she did. That is exactly the position you wind up in when a shirt or jacket is too small for you when you try to put it on. He powered through it as though it was intentional but I don't think so. And skin tight jumpsuit on a plus size model? Why can't these designers even pretend they've ever seen a large woman before?  The whole thing was horrible and not well made. I will miss him terribly but he deserved the auf for that thing.

So that's what Octavio think women wear while lounging at home stylishly?  It was like a thirteen year old boy thought this thing up. He can make stuff though. He has that talent. If only he would use his talents for good.