S04.E10: Cuts Both Ways

[Baltimore Betty]

8 hours ago, DEL901 said:

Omg, Ash’s foray into seminars really crashed and burned.  Dated material, no preparation, no hand outs, no plan other than to wing it.  I wondered when he said it was half an hour.   You can’t teach anything in that short a time.  I thought he would be using the seminar to sell he one on one coaching.  Instead he crashed worse than Wile E Coyote on one of his Acme rockets.  

Like Carrie teaching a seminar at the New School, (see Sex and the City), she blathered on and one of the attendees called her out for not being in a relationship...she took them all to a bar.

[DEL901]

on Tom calling his new “love” before he was even back in New York,

1) and he thinks Darcy if fickle?   He knew the other woman three weeks and now what they have is a great love?  I think her “loving him the way he deserves to be loved” means to me that she hopped into bed and didn’t make any demands or ask hard questions.   They just had a fling.  Of course she was chill and undemanding.   I think he will find that things will change once they are in a relationship.  And I wonder what she will think when she finds out he went back to Darcy snd wrote her a “love letter” before deciding door number two was his choice. 

2.   Please don’t tell me Tom snd his new love will be featured in one of the shows in this franchise in the future.  

[mamadrama]

5 hours ago, RealReality said:

You will obviously know more about this than me....but I wonder if, to some degree, gay couples learned to have strong relationships without benefit of marriage.  At the end of the day, it's really just a word, except for the legal and tax implications.  

And before current attitudes towards gay couples having children or adopting.....the joke was that gay couples generally had higher than average income because they weren't having to pay for kids.  So I don't know if overall the tax implications of marriage would have made a difference. 

I really don't know.  But the reason so many people strive for marriage is because it's a social construct.  If people have been able to maintain stable, happy relationships without it maybe it didn't seem worth the trouble?

 

Just spitballin'. 

Ed sucks, and he is completely transparent.  

I don't know what roses life situation is, but it's possible that she won't let herself form too close a bond with prince in the event they have to be separated.  

Devars mother went to the US to become a maid and couldn't bring devar with her.  But it was still worth it to her because she could provide so much better a life by sending her check. 

 

 

We're also judging someone's culture through our own American lens. I can't judge a Filipino "motherly devotion" because the only context I have is my American one, and things may be very different there.

[Cammi]

I guess I am just old, but if I had to tell my boyfriend how to perform his job duties, like Avery advised Ash during his public speaking freakout, it would be a deal breaker. I can not imagine having to tell a grown adult how to perform their career of choice. That is a huge red flag. I am almost convinced he was some sorta gigolo. Probably good one on one with women, but he was abysmal at public speaking. It was one of the most cringe worthy scenes on this show for me.

If we are dating and you say you are a nurse, I shouldn't have to advise you how to treat your patients if I come visit you at work. And if Ash flakes in front of cameras or under pressure speaking to a group of ten, he needs to find another job. Maybe his tight jeggings cut off circulation to his brain. 

[blubld43]

1 minute ago, Cammi said:

I guess I am just old, but if I had to tell my boyfriend how to perform his job duties, like Avery advised Ash during his public speaking freakout, it would be a deal breaker. I can not imagine having to tell a grown adult how to perform their career of choice. That is a huge red flag. I am almost convinced he was some sorta gigolo. Probably good one on one with women, but he was abysmal at public speaking. It was one of the most cringe worthy scenes on this show for me.

If we are dating and you say you are a nurse, I shouldn't have to advise you how to treat your patients if I come visit you at work. And if Ash flakes in front of cameras or under pressure speaking to a group of ten, he needs to find another job. Maybe his tight jeggings cut off circulation to his brain. 

I was truly astounded at how poorly prepared he seemed to be, no real structure,  I guess he thought these women would just buy into whatever flavor of the day he's selling, you know,  since we're just all emotions. 

Has he ever said whether or not he has any training?  Real training,  not some internet certificate. 

[mamadrama]

So Ash is a "relationship coach" in the same way that Pao is a model, Darcey is a designer, Jesse is a motivational speaker, Big Ed is a nice guy, David's dating Lana, Williams is British, Stephanie's into women, Tom's a posh jetsetter, Jorge is a millionaire, Usman is a famous rapper, and Lisa is a Baby Girl. 

Edited April 27, 2020 by mamadrama

[Starlight925]

Darcey sits at home in her  3 sizes-too-small tank with her enormo-boobs hanging out at home?  Just looks so uncomfortable.

I was glad she had Stacey tear up the note.  Tom is trying to be like Jesse:  come off all cool & collected, hey babe, just telling you how I feel, while knowing that Darcey will break down and cry, thus labelling her "crazy".  Yet she continues to go for these guys.  Hopefully she'll learn.

If an ex of mine showed up after having lied to me about having a new girlfriend, but then throwing it in my face by telling me she loves him the way he wants to be loved, I'd do a lot more than tear the note up.   So props for that.

I treated a high school boyfriend so mean (I've learned!), and then I wrote him this really long note apologizing, which I handed to him while he was with his friends at his locker.  Which he tore up in little pieces, without reading, right in front of me.  I deserved it.  We are now Facebook friends and long ago have mended, but I learned....don't be an a-hole to someone and expect them to accept your lame apology.

Edited April 27, 2020 by Sterling

[blubld43]

6 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

So Ash is a "relationship coach" in the same way that Pao is a model, Darcey is a designer, Jesse is a motivational speaker, Big Ed is a nice guy, Usman is a famous rapper, and Lisa is a Baby Girl. 

Jesse and Ash together,  two-for-one!  I pity the proverbial fool.....

Any real relationships this season?  I am looking forward to the return of Jenny and Sumit, at least I believe they have some kind of real relationship, and it's trashy as hell too.  This season is just trash, why they are dragging out this non relationship "story" of Tom and Darcy is beyond me.  Boring.

[toodles]

When dumbass David was walking away from meeting "Lana" the sad music was on full force.  If I were a TLC producer I would have played Three Stooges music.  Another reason why I wouldn't be a good TLC producer.

[Kyanight]

6 hours ago, endure said:

And tell them when I send you beautiful new sheets they’re for me, not you, when i gift you a teddy it’s for me too and by the way so is the mouthwash really for me.  Ed is so pathetic and not so nice outing ‘poor Rose’ on tv about her hairy legs and bad breath but he really made himself look horrid.

And the pajamas, too.  He hasn't bought her a single gift that was thoughtful and didn't have something for HIM involved.  So add selfish to the stingy attribute.

[blubld43]

3 minutes ago, toodles said:

When dumbass David was walking away from meeting "Lana" the sad music was on full force.  If I were a TLC producer I would have played Three Stooges music.  Another reason why I wouldn't be a good TLC producer.

Dying laughing!  That would have been the best thing about this entire episode, they could have also played it at the end of Ash's "seminar".

[Kyanight]

6 hours ago, Spike said:

Ash is an asshole but when I go to see a speaker I sit politely and listen to them.  If there is a question period at the end, I may ask a question but I won’t heckle  or debate them.  A speaker doesn’t expect to be grilled.  This was Sharp TLC fuckery.  Again Ash’s shtick reminds me of the Tom Cruise character in Magnolia, who’s catchphrase was “respect the cock, tame the c-nt.”

 

 

 

Personally I think that entire seminar was TLC set-up.  This is Ash's chosen profession and he's been doing it for some time.  It seems highly unlikely he has to consult his phone.... stumble painfully through the introduction, rush out of the room only to come back to the room and fall flat on his face.  It was like watching a janitor try to give a talk to a room full of surgeons for the first time and failing miserably because he hasn't a clue what to do.  I find it hard to believe that "Slick Ash" with a patent saying for everything couldn't conduct a simple half hour seminar.

[Callaphera]

5 minutes ago, toodles said:

When dumbass David was walking away from meeting "Lana" the sad music was on full force.  If I were a TLC producer I would have played Three Stooges music.  Another reason why I wouldn't be a good TLC producer.

Beg to differ: you'd be the best TLC producer. Also consider adding a laugh track to the moment when Anatoliy swings open the door to greet David and also when Igor impersonates his good friend Captain America Geoffrey. Aaand there's your Emmy submission reel. 

It would be a short reign but it would also be a glorious reign. 

[Lady Iris]

When Ash started tanking he took off that very ill fitted jacket to present the gun show and distract all the womenfolk. Glad they didn’t fall for it. 

[Kyanight]

1 minute ago, Lady Iris said:

When Ash started tanking he took off that very ill fitted jacket to present the gun show and distract all the womenfolk. Glad they didn’t fall for it. 

They probably didn't notice because they were constantly swallowing, trying to keep down the bile from having to look at his size 4-T pants he insists on stretching over his legs.

[Impalace]

On 4/22/2020 at 6:05 PM, Spike said:

Don’t you think after his performance on the show hot American women will be throwing themselves at him lol?

Look at his Instagram and they are. Bewildering. 

[Mrs. Hanson]

Oh Lord, there is a lot to unpack here:

Pleasantly surprised that they went with David off the bat and no shocker there that a man, living there since 1995 (1995!) had never seen her.

Yolanda:  Yawn.

Ash:  Oh wow - single most cringeworthy part, ever, and that is saying A LOT.  Did he not prepare?  Does he not have handouts?  Powerpoints?  Anything?  That was the most sexist BS I have ever heard - "Your grandmother stayed home and cooked and cleaned!"  Oy.  I mean, I almost felt bad for the guy but then thought, no, he brought it on himself.   No training, no schooling, just spouting off sexist platitudes....just no.  Loved the brunette the camera kept focusing on!

Lisa - don't get involved with a Nigerian man if you don't want a Nigerian marriage.  It may not be the American way, but it is THEIR way.  It works for them, and getting up and giving him the finger is not cool.  My now hubby would have ended there and then had I treated him that way.  And I to him as well.  So rude and crass but then again it is BGL, right?

Ed:  Man, he is exhausting.  You get to this fun place with monkeys and ten minutes in you want to go back to your A/C hotel.  Oy vey on the whole toothpaste and mouthwash scene.  Ed, you are a loser.  You will whine at anything, anytime.  

Darcy/Tom:  No one cares.  Stop stalking her, Mr "I have to have the last word" and go away.  Yesterday you were glad she is gone and now you miss her?  What are you, 12?

Eri-CAW and Steph:  Congrats on having three hours together without tears or fighting.  

Geoffrey/Varya"  RUN GIRL RUN!  

 

Edited April 27, 2020 by Mrs. Hanson

[Granny58]

On 4/21/2020 at 8:53 PM, Spike said:

An ulcer gives you bad breath?  And it can’t be counteracted with breath mints or anything?

Maybe.  Having an empty stomach can give you bad breath.  

[AZChristian]

8 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

David and Lana: Such high hopes for the beautiful fake Lana to be behind the mystery green door. Wonder if the resident had several 'Davids' come to his door. Maybe he gets a cut. 

Yolanda and Williams: 

Avery and Ash: Yikes, that love session was a disaster. A professional like him would have some nice signage to advertise his sessions, and more than 7 or 8 people attending and actually paying to see him.

D&L:  Maybe the guy behind the green door is the owner of the online escort service that Lana works for.  That's how she knew to use that address for her cruise application.  And he gives her a cash bonus for the entertainment factor when stupid Americans knock on his door.

Y&W:  There are no words.

A&A:  I doubt those women were paying for the seminar.  I think the production crew HIRED them for an hour.  "Since you're staying here at the hotel, would you like to make a little money?  We have a relationship coach in training, and we'd like you six ladies to be filmed as an audience and provide feedback.  Please feel free to let your facial expressions show your opinion, but if you get up and walk out, we won't pay you."  And - really - when's the last time you saw a flipchart used as signage outside of a conference room for a training seminar?  

[Kid]

56 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

So Ash is a "relationship coach" in the same way that Pao is a model, Darcey is a designer, Jesse is a motivational speaker, Big Ed is a nice guy, Usman is a famous rapper, and Lisa is a Baby Girl. 

So, so true!! 🤣🤣

[BallisticNikki]

 

On 4/22/2020 at 10:18 AM, RealReality said:

Has he ever explained why he couldn't ask rose about this before boarding a plane if it's such a dealbreaker?  Or why he keeps boning her instead of asking her about it if it's such a big deal?  

It's likely because it's not that big a deal.  He is, as someone said (you?) he is basically a sex tourist trying to convince the world otherwise.  

He targeted a woman half his age who lives in desperate poverty.  He dangles the promise of America and a better life in front of her to get some sex.  He has all these "misgivings" and now she needs to pass some "real love" purity test that only ed can judge.  Gaslighting and bait and switch.  

He said he needed this vacation to decide whether or not he can marry rose because this whole money thing is such a deal breaker.  But the first thing he does is hand her a bikini and teddy and a toothbrush so he can have sex with her. 

I'm guessing the "very serious conversation" about Rose's "unacceptable motives" will happen on camera and like a night or two before they head back.  And after plenty of disgusting sex. 

 

See, I don't care that Ed has certain standards he expects Rose to meet - free of STDs, fresh breath, not in cahoots w/ Maria's shakedown, etc. Even tho he is unattractive, he still has a right to what he wants.

But what makes it super GROSS to me is that he conveniently drops the standards as soon as Rose pushes back or makes him feel guilty. Like were these legitimate standards you had or were you just being a dick?

And he tells Rose twice he believes she was not in cahoots w/ Maria. But still asks to be present when Rose confronts Maria? There is absolutely no reason for him to hear that conversation EXCEPT to verify that Rose was not involved. If you don't believe Rose, don't say you do. OMG

He's so damn weak! 

Edited April 27, 2020 by BallisticNikki

[Lady Iris]

And manipulative! 

[poeticlicensed]

David and Lana - Did anyone seriously think that picture on David's phone was going to answer the door? It was worth the tease, IMO, just to see the confusion on David's face when the old Russian man answered the door instead of Lana. Now David is a 60 something, he apparently has been able to naviagte through life somewhat successfully, but he can't figure out that Lana doesn't exist? Instead he is going to spend more money on a private investigator. Can I apply? I'll just sit at home and collect money and tell him a long time down the road that she doesn't exist. I'm not sure what is going on mentally with Davaid, but I'm guessing he will be right back on the site, paying to send translated messages to Lana or another lady love. He is totally hooked. 

Usman and BabyGirlLisa - Could Lisa look any more like a hag? And calling Usman's mother mommy is beyind creepy. I loled that they finally got permission to marry from mommy and Usman is all like, lets get a few things straight. Usman wants to be in charge. Lisa says not in Merica. But it's just fine by BabyGirlLisa for her to be completely in charge of Usman. I guess she can't see the hypocrisy. Did she flip Usman the bird when she walked away? BTW, why no Usman and BGL in Pillowtalk? Was it a time issue, or did they find out something bad about one of them (akin to Geoffrey) and now they are banished from being discussed?

Ash and Avery - Normally I FF thru them, but I had to see the seminar. It either was a set up, or Ash is the worst relationship coach in the history of the world. I mean , dude, just google and make a powerpoint. 

Ed and Rose - Cringeworthy. So Ed must have gone to the store and bought toothpaste after arriving, because he couldn't smell her breath through a computer. And it was pretty first world of him to assume that Rose had bad hygiene habits. And like BGL, again with the american hypocrisy. He has spent the last 5 days relentlessly grilling her about exes and STDs and voicing his doubts, but he doesn't want to tell her he doesn't want kids. Does that include Prince? I wouldn't put it past Ed to tell Rose that Prince can stay behind and he will pay support to her sister. 

Darcey - All I see is boobs. Boobs everywhere. I bet she will be out in the middle of the night grabbing the pieces of that letter out of the trash. I really do understand that she wants a relationship, but she is completely fixated on it, to exclusion of everything else. How about working on yourself, and not just with botox and fillers. And don't get a new internet boyfriend anytime soon. Tom is super thirsty. He can get off my TV any time now. 

Stephanie is fake, so I FF

Yolanda - Did they film her entire storyline in a weekend in an AirBnB in vegas? Cuz it sure seems like it. That is clearly not a home anyone lives in. And the conversations and storyline is so painfully drawn out. Outside of going to a secondhand store, a smoothie shop and shots in the park, it doesn't seem like any time has passed at all. Oh and looking for plane tickets for the same week. Who does that? Super fake and staged. 

 

Edited April 27, 2020 by poeticlicensed

[sasha206]

ASH.  BAWAHAHAHA!  What a fucking idiot with his mumbo jumbo.  

[endure]

15 hours ago, blubld43 said:

Jesse and Ash together,  two-for-one!  I pity the proverbial fool.....

Any real relationships this season?  I am looking forward to the return of Jenny and Sumit, at least I believe they have some kind of real relationship, and it's trashy as hell too.  This season is just trash, why they are dragging out this non relationship "story" of Tom and Darcy is beyond me.  Boring.

And why do they keep having these stupid ridiculous catfish stories that go on ad nauseam?  As far as Darcy I think one of the  producers must be into her because they just can’t let her go. 

Edited April 28, 2020 by endure

[Kyanight]

4 minutes ago, endure said:

And why do they keep having these stupid ridiculous catfish stories that go on ad nauseam?  As far as Darcy I think one of the property producers must be into her because they just can’t let her go. 

Her Dad is a producer for TLC is what everyone is saying.  That storyline is SOOO stale!  

[RealReality]

11 hours ago, Meowwww said:

Omg.  My husband and I nearly had an argument over Ash’s seminar.  He thinks Ash didn’t say it well, I say Ash is an ass.  We got mad for a minute, then we realized we were arguing over something on this show, and died laughing.  😜

Oh and if Yolanda and David are truly that clueless, they should be in assisted living.  With no internet access.  

LOL, what ash was trying to say, with as much mumbo jumbo as possible....was that women shouldn't criticize or question men.  He considers it nagging.  

Women's "feminine energy" should mean that they are quiet, stay home and don't ever confront a man on anything.  

Men just want to fish or something and women are out there blowing things way out of proportion because they are always on the rag. 

[poeticlicensed]

Darcy needs to understand that huge boobs (real or fake)  on a small frame make you look heavier, period. I'm not sure what gave her the idea that if she gave herself ginormous implants that go from waist to neck that men would think she is more attractive. She needs to have them removed. Her body would look so much more in proportion. Same with her face. The more more botox and fillers she injects in an effort to smooth lines, the wider her face looks. And the more extensions she adds, the more her forehead is pulled back. She has a 5 head, soon to be 6 if she doesn't so something about it. 

[RealReality]

41 minutes ago, BallisticNikki said:

 

See, I don't care that Ed has certain standards he expects Rose to meet - free of STDs, fresh breath, not in cahoots w/ Maria's shakedown, etc. Even tho he is unattractive, he still has a right to what he wants.

But what makes it super GROSS to me is that he conveniently drops the standards as soon as Rose pushes back or makes him feel guilty. Like were these legitimate standards you had or were you just being a dick?

And he tells Rose twice he believes she was not in cahoots w/ Maria. But still asks to be present when Rose confronts Maria? There is absolutely no reason for him to hear that conversation EXCEPT to verify that Rose was not involved. If you don't believe Rose, don't say you do. OMG

He's so damn weak! 

What bothers me is that he doesn't tell her about most of these expectations until he gets sex.  I agree with you on the STD thing, but even that could have been discussed in advance if it was going to be a dealbreaker.  

Like roses reaction  to that STD conversation was going to probably be about the same in person and it was going to be over Skype.  

But I think he had a feeling that she would be so desperate and would have invested so much that she would just capitulate.  Whereas had he told her before he got on a plane she could have told him off and started focusing on another of her 4,000 FB friends. 

Constantly hiding things until the last minute is strategic and manipulative.  If the thing about Maria bothered him so much and it was going to possibly be a dealbreaker.....the up front, real good guy thing to do is ask her about it before having sex with her.  Or ask her about it before you get on a plane.  

But ed has strategically waited until nearly the end of the sex holiday to mention this.  And then he wanted to wait until the end of dinner?  TF?

[RealReality]

9 minutes ago, poeticlicensed said:

Darcy needs to understand that huge boobs (real or fake)  on a small frame make you look heavier, period. I'm not sure what gave her the idea that if she gave herself ginormous implants that go from waist to neck that men would think she is more attractive. She needs to have them removed. Her body would look so much more in proportion. Same with her face. The more more botox and fillers she injects in an effort to smooth lines, the wider her face looks. And the more extensions she adds, the more her forehead is pulled back. She has a 5 head, soon to be 6 if she doesn't so something about it. 

Yeah, somewhere there is a plastic surgeon who really ought to be ashamed of themselves.  And you're right those boobs don't do what she is hoping they would.  

I'm not a huge fan of Darcy and I think that what Tom has said about her being selfish and self centered and narcassitic is right.  But she didn't deserve that.  

Tom won, he has a beautiful girlfriend who "loves him the way he wants to be loved".....why be such a mean spirited asshole?  If you must put the letter in the mail and move on with life.  But these jabs about how Darcy is going to be single at 55 and how she is fat?  That's unnecessarily cruel and petty.  I don't think a man who had this great relationship or who wasn't a famewhore would feel the need to belittle his ex like that.  

It's very trashy to me. 

Edited April 27, 2020 by RealReality

[Callaphera]

5 minutes ago, endure said:

And why do they keep having these stupid ridiculous catfish stories that go on ad nauseam?  As far as Darcy I think one of the property producers must be into her because they just can’t let her go. 

At least Darcey will always deliver sloppiness, whether drunk or sober. She's reality TV gold, right down to her blurred nipples popping out of her size xs tank top. Yolanda just sits there and tries to make "Reverse Google image search? *blink blink* Never heard of her!" sound natural. Her kids need to take away her wifi password and meter her connection. David was original and gave us a twist on the usual catfish routine and threw in a side of panty-sniffing stalker that puts Cesar's edible underwear from Spencer's Gifts circa 2005 to shame. 

(Side note: I found what may be the last Spencer's Gifts in British Columbia last year and went in with a friend. It hasn't changed in fifteen years - it's still pot leaf junk and black light mushroom posters in the front, penis shaped bachelorette shit in the back. I'm pretty sure I saw the exact same edible underwear and candy necklace style ball hammock that Cesar had.)

[poeticlicensed]

10 minutes ago, RealReality said:

Tom won, he has a beautiful girlfriend who "loves him the way he wants to be loved".....why be such a mean spirited asshole?

What Tom really wants is to be on the teevee. More than having a relationship with anyone other than himself. The best revenge that Darcy could inflict on Tom is to refuse to have him as part of her storyline. Clearly TLC values Darcy's participation more than Tom's. She needs to to tell TPTB that she is moving on and doesn't want to film with Tom. Tom on his own is just another purse wearing dandy man with nothing interesting about him. 

Edited April 27, 2020 by poeticlicensed

[blubld43]

1 hour ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

 

Ash:  Oh wow - single most cringeworthy part, ever, and that is saying A LOT.  Did he not prepare?  Does he not have handouts?  Powerpoints?  Anything?  That was the most sexist BS I have ever heard - "Your grandmother stayed home and cooked and cleaned!"  Oy.  I mean, I almost felt bad for the guy but then thought, no, he brought it on himself.   No training, no schooling, just spouting off sexist platitudes....just no.  Loved the brunette the camera kept focusing on!

 

 

And Ash?  I'm old, and MY grandma not only cooked and cleaned, she had a degree and a full time teaching job her entire adult life.  On the weekend she produced a five acre garden, everything from blackberries to pecans.

Fuck off with that hot garbage for real.

[Lily247]

So awkward that Ed first brought up his issue right before the food was served, then said they should eat first, then talk about the problem..... he is very awkward socially with women. 

Ashs seminar was not well recieved bc he basically told a bunch of women that they are inferior to men, instead of giving them practical relationship advice. Nothing from that seminar provided useful information to these women. I think what he said spoke the truth, in a way, but was just not presented well. 

[sasha206]

25 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

At least Darcey will always deliver sloppiness, whether drunk or sober. She's reality TV gold, right down to her blurred nipples popping out of her size xs tank top. Yolanda just sits there and tries to make "Reverse Google image search? *blink blink* Never heard of her!" sound natural. Her kids need to take away her wifi password and meter her connection. David was original and gave us a twist on the usual catfish routine and threw in a side of panty-sniffing stalker that puts Cesar's edible underwear from Spencer's Gifts circa 2005 to shame. 

(Side note: I found what may be the last Spencer's Gifts in British Columbia last year and went in with a friend. It hasn't changed in fifteen years - it's still pot leaf junk and black light mushroom posters in the front, penis shaped bachelorette shit in the back. I'm pretty sure I saw the exact same edible underwear and candy necklace style ball hammock that Cesar had.)

She is reality TV gold!  I want a separate Darcy dating show.

[poeticlicensed]

So I googled "relationship coaching" and 99% of what came back are services for couples who need help navigating their relationships. Not coaching for people who are single and looking for a relationship

Just now, sasha206 said:

She is reality TV gold!  I want a separate Darcy dating show.

Isn't she getting a spin off? I thought I read that somewhere. 

[sasha206]

I did enjoy watching Avery's embarrassment.

Does Ash have any degrees?  Any training in counseling?  Of is he just someone relatively attractive that has managed to fool women that he is some sort of relationship coach and they fall in love with his bullshit and pay him just so they can talk to him?

[Zevious Zoquis]

Perhaps Ash's seminar was a colossal disaster because Avery was there cramping his "style."  I mean let's face it, "relationship coach" is a BS career if ever there was one.  Not being able to flirt with the ladies really sort of puts the focus directly on the fact that he actually has nothing of value to say.

 

David - "What signs was I ignoring?  Because I think I was ignoring some."  OMG, lol...well David, you can start by remembering the many signs all your friends pointed out to you.  Moron!  I'm so happy there was no Lana waiting behind the door.  I don't want another Maria situation with TLC tracking down the woman in the pic and paying her to appear or something.

Edited April 27, 2020 by Zevious Zoquis

[Mrs. Hanson]

48 minutes ago, RealReality said:

LOL, what ash was trying to say, with as much mumbo jumbo as possible....was that women shouldn't criticize or question men.  He considers it nagging.  

Women's "feminine energy" should mean that they are quiet, stay home and don't ever confront a man on anything.  

Men just want to fish or something and women are out there blowing things way out of proportion because they are always on the rag. 

100% this.  And then he started going downhill and would not accept it.  I was surprised that his marketing tools were a giant post it board with some writing on it, then he he free draws two brains (and not very well) - like I said earlier, it looked like he threw it together the day before (if that) and it just looked.....bad.  At least Avery is calling him out and not defending him.  It seems to work for Ash to blow smoke up a woman's ass one on but it a group?  Nope, not having it.

[sasha206]

On 4/23/2020 at 4:34 AM, Chandler said:

Some of y’all gotta chill on Ed. Give the man a break for fuck sakes. We all know he can be/say things that are awkward. The gifts he gave her weren’t even bad like some of you are making it out to be. The hygiene stuff shows that he cares and wants her to have good personal hygiene like wtf is wrong with that? A bikini isn’t bad bc what the hell is she gonna swim in if she doesn’t have one? The lingerie is the biggest reach but still...he’s trying see if they can increase their intimacy. I really don’t understand why everyone appears to be Team Rose...I’m Team Ed all the way. Maria asking for money and Rose just calling him fat and ugly...just makes me sick. Something fishy is going on and Ed is definitely feeling that kind of vibe. Lastly...for everyone that still hates on Ed...he’s literally giving Rose experiences she’d never have the opportunity to have without him so show the man a little more appreciate.

I don't have to chill on Ed.  He specifically sought out an impoverished woman much younger than him to control though the promise of a green card.  

If he doesn't want to be taken advantage for his money, here's an idea:  Meet someone that isn't in desperate, impoverished circumstances and someone that is your physical equivalent.  

But he doesn't want that.   He wants the young woman who needs him financially so he can have sex with someone he could never land in the states.  

It's a transactional relationship that he sought out and then seems to be upset that what he sought out *might* be transactional.  

I'm glad she's called him fat and ugly b/c as soon as he got here, he's telling her she needs to take an STD test, shave her legs, fix her breath as if he has nothing to work on.

 

 

Edited April 27, 2020 by sasha206

[Callaphera]

2 minutes ago, Zevious Zoquis said:

David - "What signs was I ignoring?  Because I think I was ignoring some."  OMG, lol...well David, you can start by remembering the many signs all your friends pointed out to you.  Moron!  I'm so happy there was no Lana waiting behind the door.  I don't want another Maria situation with TLC tracking down the woman in the pic and paying her to appear or something.

If there is a reunion/tell-none (at least one Bravo show is doing a reunion Zoom-style but I think TLC films their reunions pretty far ahead so I dunno? Please forgive me, I'm on opposite days and trying to empty the box of wine so I can fit the other in the fridge and it keeps. pouring. glasses. #firstworldproblems this is my third glass and fourth cupcake), I have no doubt that David is going to be salivating over a blank television screen for most of the show only to be told ten minutes before the end that they couldn't find "Lana" without paying $6.99/minute (international processing charges apply) and his look of disappointment is going to be epic and feed my black black heart and soul for months to come. Ugh, I need his crushed face to sustain me through this quarantine and the upcoming Quarantine Fall/Winter 2020 season. 

 

12 minutes ago, sasha206 said:

She is reality TV gold!  I want a separate Darcy dating show.

Honestly? This. Give me Blind Date: Darcey Edition and I'm so there it isn't even funny. Just don't do whatever that God awful Kate Gosselin dating show did because that was bad. 

[Frozendiva]

As a pro, Ash should have a fancy pop up sign with his company name on it. He should also have a professional presentation, including video, some sort of visual content, feedback from those who previously attended, some sort of success rate. A handout package for the participants. Perhaps a workbook that his clients fill out if they want a few one on one sessions with him. Heck, those poor walk in women could have been pulled from the street to see the Stupendous Yappi.

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

1 hour ago, Kyanight said:

Her Dad is a producer for TLC is what everyone is saying.  That storyline is SOOO stale!  

Wait, whose dad is a TLC producer? Thanks! 

[sasha206]

21 minutes ago, poeticlicensed said:

So I googled "relationship coaching" and 99% of what came back are services for couples who need help navigating their relationships. Not coaching for people who are single and looking for a relationship

Isn't she getting a spin off? I thought I read that somewhere. 

Oh I don't know but I really hope she is!  Let's flood TLC's twitter account and make that happen!

[AZChristian]

4 minutes ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

Wait, whose dad is a TLC producer? Thanks! 

Darcey and Stacey's dad produced ONE MOVIE.  The twins were also listed as Executive Producers on the same movie.

I've not seen anywhere that he is a TLC producer, but would love to see links to that.

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Ed and Ash are very similar. They're both patronizing sexist jerks.  They don't see women as independent thinking people but rather they see them as a walking balls of emotions, hormones  and boobies.  

There may be nothing worse than new age babblespeak. "I'm very mindful" or "This is my journey"...If any of those phrases come out of a potential lover... run for the exit. Even more annoying is constantly being asked how you feel:  "Are you happy" "Do you feel flatulent?" "How are you now?" Yes. Ed is a very rude man.  "I have a surprise for you...It's a really good toothbrush and a razor, now go get cleaned up, while I stand  in a puddle of rancid mayo scented sweat." 

David and Yolanda need to meet each other just so they can share stories of stupidity.  They're both so focused on a fantasy. It could be act for tv. Either way, the storylines are pointless and dull. 

Tom, is a flaming narcissistic wannabe. He's a consummate womanizer and con-artist. He thinks his Blue Steel stare and clipped Brit accent makes him a contender for James Bond-like suavity. He's loathsome. His faux apology was just that. Fake. He didn't get what he wanted and once again showed his true self. "Darcey will become a 55 year old woman, alone, and it's all her fault."  What an absolute knob.  Whatever you may say about Darcey, she's got a  lot more heart and soul inside that plastic exterior than Tom has in his entire body. 

I fast forward past Stephanie scenes. I can't tolerate her whiny voice. 

I was concerned for Varya being stuck out in the Russian forest with two men. It seems like a strange activity to do with someone you recently met. Thank god there is a camera crew there and she's safe. I'm mean, Geoff look pretty comfortable with that shovel.  I'm sure he's got a few ex's buried under his basement in Tennessee. 

Edited April 27, 2020 by Barbara Please

[Spike]

2 hours ago, Cammi said:

It was one of the most cringe worthy scenes on this show for me.

The t-shirt/suit jacket combo from the 80s didn’t help.  At first I thought he took the jacket off because he was feeling sweaty from the hostility but now I think he thought he could hypnotize the audience with his biceps and that his pheromones would have one less obstacle to ensnare them.

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

Man a lot to unpack for sure. 

Going above and beyond everything upthread has said,

Does Yolanda have the hubcap earrings in GOLD and SILVER?  That so IS an Airbnb, not one family picture or anything. PS I don't know how to do a reverse image search either. Good use of my Coronatine time.

Ash is having a psychological break at the end. His looks have gotten him far alone and the train stops here. 

Did I look up the Sheridan on Palawan Island? Oh yes I did. It is a nice resort with good reviews. $80  to stay tonight (ha no one traveling) $150 in winter on weekends. 

Did I pause my DVR on David packing up? Yes I did. He has an Iphone, and the book on the desk said INFORMATION in Ukranian.  

Loved the guy who lives in "Lana's" apartment. You saw real empathy in his eyes when David had to lean on the wall. He understood it all immediately. Gives me faith in the human race.

I feel like Varya's hair isn't dyed her natural color I bet it is much lighter. I thought her brother was adorable.  The Russian guy was funny. Geoffrey's BFF but the second he goes to sh** in the woods he is throwing him right under the bus to Varya.

The hair and makeup on the shark boat is a whole lot, Before during and after it's like a whole thing those two. I always love whatever brand and color lipstick Steph has on.

I have to say that I find Usman compelling I dig his threads & that beautiful hat, which seems like such a weird thing to notice but he is always crisp, ironed and immaculately groomed. No sweat, wrinkles, dust or wear on his presentation.  (See: Angela's Michael and the goofballs they look like frat footballers waking up from a bender). It becomes Usman every week.  Just saying. I assume it's hot too since BGV is barely dressed. WTF is the point of a purple shawl to cover when you are wearing light colored skin tight legging knee length capri pants?

Edited April 27, 2020 by Alonzo Mosely FBI

[jumper sage]

50 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

(Side note: I found what may be the last Spencer's Gifts in British Columbia last year and went in with a friend. It hasn't changed in fifteen years - it's still pot leaf junk and black light mushroom posters in the front, penis shaped bachelorette shit in the back. I'm pretty sure I saw the exact same edible underwear and candy necklace style ball hammock that Cesar had.)

Aww, memories of high school!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Loved when Ed was still apologizing for the breath thing and whats-her-name was going into the bathroom she was saying, "You ugly, you ugly".  Love the translation.

[Colfrmb]

If Lil Ed says “oh my God” one more time I will tear apart my couch.

maybe the monkeys think... Ed... is... a... monkey too... and it’s a power struggle for territory and the “queen”!

Hey, Ed, maybe Rose has bad breath because she doesn’t eat regularly.  She’s thin. Thinner than her sister.  Plus, she should have no alcohol if she’s got an ulcer!  Quit handing her cocktails!

Oh, Ash.  Well, Avery, sweetheart, only single people will be going to a seminar on dating... Maybe when he’s doing his one on one coaching sessions, he is wooing the woman and then saying now see this is what you should be looking for, somebody like me!  Women pay for that crap?? 
supposedly ash’s clients are successful young women who don’t have time to date, his words, so they are going to listen to a speech about how everything they are doing is wrong for a relationship to succeed?  
Let’s look at Ash for a second.  He’s divorced, plans to drag his young child away from the mother, went bankrupt, lives with his brother, has to shop for a girlfriend on the other side of the world.  So if the man, aka him, is supposed to be the hunter, provider, blah, blah, he’s striking out so far.  And did he say, “ please welcome my girlfriend, my soul mate, visiting from the US?  No.

i half expected Ash to rip that flimsy tshirt off and play iheart radio on his cell phone and spin around to get the gals to smile.

Tom is also a stalker, just like David.  
If Stephanie isn’t ready to come out to her parents, she wasn’t ready to journey to meet Erica.  To say she doesn’t want to admit her sexuality to  others, as she is deliberating the idea on TV, is insulting to Erica.  Move on, Erica, or just continue having fun with your friends.  That seems so much less melodramatic.

I finally dislike Varya.  I can’t stand Geoff.  She keeps saying he’s a good man and he has been truthful.  That’s a hard NO to both those statements.  How obvious is this?

so glad there are lots of 90 Day shows on right now  I start out groaning and not wanting to watch, but then Im hooked.  Thank you to all the casts for exposing your lives to us. Based on what is portrayed on the shows, I may not like some of you, but thank you anyway!