2019 Auditions, Finals, and Training Camp Spoilers

[klopie]

I saw several people say that it wasn’t true that this year had the most returning vets ever but I can’t remember any other year with more. At the time of prelims, Lauren and Gabby were still returning vets so that would have left 7 spots. What year had fewer spots up for grabs?

[DCCFan197605]

38 minutes ago, KatherineB said:

I say this because not ONCE during the whole episode did K&J mention Tina, and the woman who was at AT&T stadium waiting for FVK was clearly her grandmother or an aunt. 

I was so relieved not to see Tina in the episode.  If they have some agreement in place—verbal or otherwise—I hope it involves limited to no participation by Tina in DCC MTT.

[DCCFan197605]

Lily is not my favorite.

Edited August 4, 2019 by DCCFan197605
Unnecessary meanness.

[Kate2006]

I’m just getting to watch and I can’t believe Victoria fell. It had nothing to do with that Pom. Her center of gravity was off and she was already on her way down when she stepped on the Pom. No one else that would do that would get invited to semis. Sometimes it’s just easier to give the squeaky wheel what she wants, even if it means a more deserving person doesnt move up. It isn’t fair but the whole world works this way.

[Route66]

1 hour ago, KatherineB said:

I definitely agree with you on that. Clearly, the legacy status is seen as a shoe-in for these girls and I think that's wrong. Cassie wasn't that good, although she did get better over time, but FVK is a train wreck and for her to take the spot of antihero girl who deserved it more just because of who she is -- that's beyond unfair. 

A good lawyer can come up with grounds to sue for anything. 

There's nothing to sue for and even if there were, Jerry Jones and the Cowboys have far more money and resources than Tina Kalina. Do you really believe Kelli Finglass is operating under fear of being sued if some girl doesn't make DCC? 

It is annoying that she's constantly talking about what a competitive year it is and what amazing dancers are auditioning, then just laughing when VK screws up.

[kalibean]

2 hours ago, rafibomb said:

Well, if they're trying to plastic-surgery Alanna into Lacey, they've got a long way to go (sorry).

And it goes without saying that Daphne is no KaShara. She's never been one of the prettier faces in her class- good dancer, and clearly not a risk for weight watch, but tends towards a harsh look.

I just surprised they didn't pick Bridget or Caroline for one of the spots.

Gotta have a blonde tho! Surprised they didn’t use Rachel W. No one else is coming to mind for me other than Lexie.

I thought Daphne was very pretty last year, but def has slimmed down too much. Hopefully she’s finding balance and is healthy and happy. 

[lkxydhfinl ghsdv]

https://prodancecheer.com/nfl/cowboys/dallas-cowboys-cheerleaders-2013-finals-auditions-cowboys-stadium/

This article is from 2013 DCC auditions.  It says there were 32 returning vets that year.

That was the year Collin, Kali & Teri were cut at auditions, Courtney quit before TC and Chelsea was cut during TC.  They ended up with only 27 vets, but 32 showed up for auditions.  That is the most that I can recall...

[scorpio1031]

25 minutes ago, Tootie said:

https://prodancecheer.com/nfl/cowboys/dallas-cowboys-cheerleaders-2013-finals-auditions-cowboys-stadium/

This article is from 2013 DCC auditions.  It says there were 32 returning vets that year.

That was the year Collin, Kali & Teri were cut at auditions, Courtney quit before TC and Chelsea was cut during TC.  They ended up with only 27 vets, but 32 showed up for auditions.  That is the most that I can recall...

That's a pretty good number though.  It will be interesting to see how many return for the 2020 season.

[klopie]

22 minutes ago, Tootie said:

https://prodancecheer.com/nfl/cowboys/dallas-cowboys-cheerleaders-2013-finals-auditions-cowboys-stadium/

This article is from 2013 DCC auditions.  It says there were 32 returning vets that year.

That was the year Collin, Kali & Teri were cut at auditions, Courtney quit before TC and Chelsea was cut during TC.  They ended up with only 27 vets, but 32 showed up for auditions.  That is the most that I can recall...

Thank you! I totally forgot about all the cuts that year. 

37 minutes ago, Kate2006 said:

I’m just getting to watch and I can’t believe Victoria fell. It had nothing to do with that Pom. Her center of gravity was off and she was already on her way down when she stepped on the Pom. No one else that would do that would get invited to semis. Sometimes it’s just easier to give the squeaky wheel what she wants, even if it means a more deserving person doesnt move up. It isn’t fair but the whole world works this way.

Agreed. Grabbed this shot from the episode that really shows how bad her turns are before she ever touched a pom.

[scorpio1031]

31 minutes ago, Tootie said:

They ended up with only 27 vets, but 32 showed up for auditions.  That is the most that I can recall...

Forgot to mention, re-watching season 9 and there are 30 vets returning, so 32 is still the record.  And I really don't like Christina's hair back then:(  Looks better now!

[viccib]

8 hours ago, Tulip86 said:

CMT does not allow viewing for countries outside of the US usually, just links to their YouTube channel.

I also tried Amazon, it's available there but only for those with a US address using a credit card from a US bank. 😣

I live in Australia and I can view the first episode on the website. I have however, found that I can't be signed in with my vpn to watch. If I do that, it takes me straight to the youtube channel. good luck 🙂

[Lona]

You know what, if I wasn't on the Lily train before I am now after last night's episode. She seems simply ready to get what should've been hers all along and I loved that delivery of "Victoria, come sit with us." She was dead inside. 😂🤣

Also a big fan of Kat! 🙂

GO Lilly! 🙂

[DCC-UK]

8 hours ago, rafibomb said:

Well, if they're trying to plastic-surgery Alanna into Lacey, they've got a long way to go (sorry).

And it goes without saying that Daphne is no KaShara. She's never been one of the prettier faces in her class- good dancer, and clearly not a risk for weight watch, but tends towards a harsh look.

I just surprised they didn't pick Bridget or Caroline for one of the spots.

I’d have loved a Caroline, Ashlee, Bridget trio as the promo poster! 

[ByTor]

8 hours ago, rafibomb said:

10 hours ago, LynneH said:

I could be wrong, but I think it's the exact same "type" as last years banner which was Khalyn, Lacey and Kashara.  

Well, if they're trying to plastic-surgery Alanna into Lacey, they've got a long way to go (sorry).

I think the "type" @LynneH was talking about was 1 African American, 1 Latina, 1 white blonde.

8 hours ago, rafibomb said:

Source: many friends who are diehard (and occasionally angry and/or drunk) Eagles fans.

Only occasionally??  🤣  I've been to games, you're too kind!

[ByTor]

8 hours ago, AAT said:

  l lived in NJ. Trust me, Eagles and Giant's fans do not mix with rivals.I get what this person is saying.They would rather die than have their daughter cheering for their rival team.

I know this is all off-topic, so my last comment on this 🙂 . I used to work in a hospital.  At the time I was an Eagles fan (pre Michael Vick).  During one appointment, the doctor I was working with grew up in North Jersey & is a Giants fan and the patient walked in wearing a Cowboys jacket.  I said "Well....I guess we can talk about how much we hate the Redskins!" 

[SmpIsimon]

Here's the numbers I have for returning vets (meaning returning vets who made it to training camp):

2009--24

2010--26

2011--18 (But Kaitlin LeGrand was cut during training camp)

2012--20

2013--29 (But Courtney Cook dropped out and Chelsea was cut during training camp)

2014--27 (But Hannah was cut during training camp)

2015--20

2016--21

2017--24 (But Holly quit during training camp)

2018--21 (But Tara was cut during training camp)

2019--28

Edited August 4, 2019 by SmpIsimon

[adukesantana]

8 hours ago, klopie said:

Thank you! I totally forgot about all the cuts that year. 

Agreed. Grabbed this shot from the episode that really shows how bad her turns are before she ever touched a pom.

All I see - besides her being off center - is wild hair and teeth!!

[rafibomb]

2 hours ago, ByTor said:

I think the "type" @LynneH was talking about was 1 African American, 1 Latina, 1 white blonde. 

But what about their redhead diversity? 😛

Honestly, I just hate that some of these girls get all this plastic surgery done solely to gain more visibly on a cheerleading squad. Something about K&J being all "Alanna fixed her face, let's promote her!" feels super icky to me. She looked fine before (if maybe not cover girl material). 

[ByTor]

2 minutes ago, rafibomb said:

But what about their redhead diversity? 😛

Yeah!  That's very impordunt 😂

[MTTFan]

11 hours ago, KatherineB said:

Infliction of emotional and physical distress and trauma, or some type of breach of contract, a good lawyer can come up with many types of lawsuit or threat of lawsuit to make sure someone does what they said they'd do. 

Never happen.  Assumption of the "risk" (i.e. the emotional distress someone suffers if they don't make the team) and the waivers that have to be signed -

It would be bounced right of court.  (Erica anyone?)  (Although I think there may have been an under the table settlement with a hush hush agreement in that situation.)

i am a pretty good lawyer and I wouldn't touch the situation -- especially not for someone like VK or her stage mother.  

[Opine]

I love Kat and like Amanda.  But they are both Kalyssa to me - just girls who want to promote their own agenda.  I can see Kat changing and really getting into the DCC vibe.  But not Amanda.  I really think they would be better off on these leaner years to focus on girls like Gina Marie that really want to be a DCC instead of really wanting to promote themselves.

I still love Kristin!  Yes, girl, there are people rooting for you!  They gave her notes and she took them and improved her facials.  I hope she is rewarded.  Plus, I think she was the warmest toward VK and it was natural because she is a good person.  I know none of them could like that storm......

[CruiseGirl]

11 hours ago, AAT said:

Wow!!! That is all over the board. Medicine, law, advertising and publishing. Sounds like she isn't sure what she wants to do. 

I believe she graduates this year so I’m sure she must have decided by now the direction she will follow. 

[UnicornKicksBack]

I don’t personally really care anymore if a girl auditions bc she she thinks Jesus placed it on her heart to honor Granny and all the soldiers or if she thinks it will make her the next Paula Abdul or if she just likes to dance. Who cares. It’s a part time dance job not saving the world or curing cancer.

Sorry but been working a peds rotation and it puts dance drama from a bunch over over privliged basics into perspective. 

[DiehardDCCFan]

On 8/3/2019 at 6:49 AM, Busy said:

Watching the show, I could not believe how big Meredith is. She needs to lose weight. 

 And, I thought she’d looked thinner than last season. 

[kalibean]

I honestly don’t mind the ones that come in with an agenda, as long as they give it their all and complete their contract.  If they want a year of experience and hope to bounce to greater things, great! If it’s a year on their resume to bolster their plans for a dance studio, choreographer experience, moving on to coach another team, etc. If you just want the Instagram likes, super! 

Complete the contract, be a good teammate. Done. 

[Jennv]

Did y’all see Marshall’s insta story? He screenshot us again! Lol, love him 💕

[dbell1]

Not sure why a TCC being ambitious is a bad thing. The cheerleaders are paid crap wages, are marketed in a reality tv show, have their images used for years, can be cut for any reason, and have a short time in their prime to make a career. 

Anyone who doesn’t have a plan other than being a DCC for x years is the one we should be questioning. It’s a part time job. And I doubt the perks of it give a living wage.

Go Amanda! And any other woman using this as a stepping stone to their dreams.  

[CrazyMoon]

Lily didn't look like she was into the process...her 'dead' invitation to VK sounded more like a very tired person who wasn't into being filmed at all...

Still not a fan of Kristen. We'll see if she can get her attitude together to look at the audience instead of 'flirting with the floor', which is a very self involved thing to do...that tucked chin looking up is supposed to make her look sweetly innocent, just makes her look childish & selfish.

This is the time for Kelli's daughter to explore options...My daughter changed her college major FIVE times before deciding on one that actually liked her back. She's another who is interested in everything. As a 10yo she wanted to be an orthopedic surgeon, in college she looked at geophysics & seismology (she's a natural disaster girl), sociology, biology, culinary arts before finding out business liked her back...got a real estate license & went into commercial property management...#alwaysmovingforward. Sam should be just fine...

[NotthebadVictoria]

1 hour ago, Jennv said:

Did y’all see Marshall’s insta story? He screenshot us again! Lol, love him 💕

He’s Private you’ll have to screenshot it!

[Lolfordays]

1 hour ago, dbell1 said:

Not sure why a TCC being ambitious is a bad thing. The cheerleaders are paid crap wages, are marketed in a reality tv show, have their images used for years, can be cut for any reason, and have a short time in their prime to make a career. 

Anyone who doesn’t have a plan other than being a DCC for x years is the one we should be questioning. It’s a part time job. And I doubt the perks of it give a living wage.

Go Amanda! And any other woman using this as a stepping stone to their dreams.  

I actually agree with this — i would hope someone had a plan for DCC life, and used the DCC as much as the DCC uses them.

That being said, TPTB can spare me the bullshit about how much this is about loving the cowboys blah blah blah. It’s a dance job, and a shitty one at that. You don’t have to lie about every one of the girls wanting to do this since they were in the womb.

[go4luca]

25 minutes ago, NotthebadVictoria said:

He’s Private you’ll have to screenshot it!

Out of respect for his choice of being private, I don't.  But someone else may be fine with it.

[rafibomb]

1 hour ago, dbell1 said:

Not sure why a TCC being ambitious is a bad thing. The cheerleaders are paid crap wages, are marketed in a reality tv show, have their images used for years, can be cut for any reason, and have a short time in their prime to make a career. 

Anyone who doesn’t have a plan other than being a DCC for x years is the one we should be questioning. It’s a part time job. And I doubt the perks of it give a living wage.

Go Amanda! And any other woman using this as a stepping stone to their dreams.  

I certainly have no issue with ambition, and agree that all of them should have some sort of post-DCC plan.

"Desperate to be famous" is just not an ambition I find particularly admirable, I guess. Success and fame are two very different things.

To be clear, I still think she should make the team- I think the best candidates should, regardless of their motivation for auditioning. I was just giving my reasoning for why I might find a TCC more or less rootworthy.

Edited August 4, 2019 by rafibomb
Clarification

[ClosetDCCFan]

2 hours ago, kalibean said:

I honestly don’t mind the ones that come in with an agenda, as long as they give it their all and complete their contract.  If they want a year of experience and hope to bounce to greater things, great! If it’s a year on their resume to bolster their plans for a dance studio, choreographer experience, moving on to coach another team, etc. If you just want the Instagram likes, super! 

Complete the contract, be a good teammate. Done. 

My issue with this is the same as what it has been with various other issues (including VK):  hypocrisy.  In this instance, you want to use DCC as a launching pad for a modeling, acting or dancing career?  Go right ahead.  But TPTB need to stop trying to sell us this fiction that every lady who might make an excellent DCC must also be some Christian humanitarian Stepford Wife.  

[scorpio1031]

3 minutes ago, ClosetDCCFan said:

My issue with this is the same as what it has been with various other issues (including VK):  hypocrisy.  In this instance, you want to use DCC as a launching pad for a modeling, acting or dancing career?  Go right ahead.  But TPTB need to stop trying to sell us this fiction that every lady who might make an excellent DCC must also be some Christian humanitarian Stepford Wife.  

Don't forget the whole - a DCC is either a student or has a full time job, Kelli always playing up the colleges attended and the degrees earned.  However, look at what happened with Milan.  I was re-reading a thread from last year, and a poster was attending classes at the Bar Method with Nicole B.  Nicole said that she had a hard time being a DCC and working a full time job, but she did it.  These days it seemed that the organization was expecting more of a time commitment from the girls.

[Jessied84]

16 hours ago, Indy Shopaholic said:

I froze my DVR & counted. There were 7 rows of 16 girls in the stands. That’s 112 ladies trying out, so 101 made it to semis, only 11 were sent home.

Yeah this whole "400 girls try out" thing needs to die. Every year Kelli and the producers try to push that thinking we all don't know how to count! It's so obvious when they put them all into one section of the stadium how small the group is! Also "skipping around" with the tryout numbers ain't fooling anyone. Seriously Kelli - just stop it. 

[heckkitty]

1 hour ago, go4luca said:

Out of respect for his choice of being private, I don't.  But someone else may be fine with it.

Same. There’s really nothing to it that you haven’t seen already - he screencapped a comment that @seasick made about him. Hi Marshall, love you!

[SanDiegoGal]

5 hours ago, Opine said:

I love Kat and like Amanda.  But they are both Kalyssa to me - just girls who want to promote their own agenda. 

Curious why you perceived this about Kat? I didn't get that impression at all. Not trying to argue here. I'm genuinely interested to learn the reasons behind your assessment because I'm wondering if I was so mesmerized and WOWed with her audition that I missed something altogether.

[Donna S]

From Kelli's IG

[parrotfeathers]

6 minutes ago, SanDiegoGal said:

Curious why you perceived this about Kat? I didn't get that impression at all. Not trying to argue here. I'm genuinely interested to learn the reasons behind your assessment because I'm wondering if I was so mesmerized and WOWed with her audition that I missed something altogether.

You didn't ask me, but for me I thought of it when she made some of the same "moves" Kalyssa did such as her boob schmooz  and the butt turn schmooz "follow me) thingie.

I actually learn something when posters disagree with each other without starting an all out war.

Edited August 4, 2019 by parrotfeathers

[lkxydhfinl ghsdv]

Here'a a group shot of their outing yesterday with Fit Men Cook.   Kat is not in the group picture..... but that does look like her with Amy & Vikkie

Edited August 4, 2019 by Tootie

[MTTFan]

1 minute ago, Tootie said:

Here'a a group shot of their outing yesterday with Fit Men Cook.   Kat is not in the picture.....

I count 38 girls -- if I am wrong and there are 36, this may be an informal squad pic?

[SanDiegoGal]

1 minute ago, parrotfeathers said:

You didn't ask me, but for me I thought of it when she made some of the same "moves" Kalyssa did such as her boob schmooz  and the butt turn schmooz "follow me) thingie.

Thanks for sharing. I saw that as incredible confidence and an "it" factor vibe, but I understand how it could also be perceived another way.

[parrotfeathers]

6 minutes ago, Tootie said:

Here'a a group shot of their outing yesterday with Fit Men Cook.   Kat is not in the picture.....

Someone is behind Judy?

I think I counted 39.

Edited August 4, 2019 by parrotfeathers

[SanDiegoGal]

5 minutes ago, Donna S said:

From Kelli's IG

Yikes! Somebody has gained some weight. It's evident in her face, neck, shoulders, and what's hiding behind the tee, and even more obvious with the contrast of Slim behind her.

[Opine]

2 minutes ago, SanDiegoGal said:

Curious why you perceived this about Kat? I didn't get that impression at all. Not trying to argue here. I'm genuinely interested to learn the reasons behind your assessment because I'm wondering if I was so mesmerized and WOWed with her audition that I missed something altogether.

Well, I definitely think it more about Amanda than Kat.  She made it clear with her words and actions.  Someone said it above - one and done and on to the Bachelor!!!  With Kat, I think it is just that the last candidate I saw that wowed me that much was Kalyssa.  I think for Kat, being a forever DCC would be a waste.  She is all that and a bag of chips.  So with her I am more assuming.

I am the one that started this firestorm about ambition.  @rafibomb put what I mean to say better than I did:

"Desperate to be famous" is just not an ambition I find particularly admirable, I guess. Success and fame are two very different things.

I think it would be difficult to have a whole team of one and dones - the desperate to be famous ones.  They need to pick up the Gina Marie's who have a current ambition to be a DCC but who also likely have a future ambition to do something else.

[lkxydhfinl ghsdv]

2 minutes ago, parrotfeathers said:

Someone is behind Judy?

You're right! That's probably Kat...good catch!

[parrotfeathers]

10 minutes ago, Tootie said:

but that does look like her with Amy & Vikkie

I never noticed her there!

I'm still trying to figure out why they are all holding the same photo?  I have come to the logical conclusion that it is a magazine.

[lkxydhfinl ghsdv]

3 minutes ago, parrotfeathers said:

I never noticed her there!

I'm still trying to figure out why they are all holding the same photo?  I have come to the logical conclusion that it is a magazine.

I believe it's his book about cooking...

Edited August 4, 2019 by Tootie

[ATLGirl]

13 minutes ago, SanDiegoGal said:

You didn't ask me, but for me I thought of it when she made some of the same "moves" Kalyssa did such as her boob schmooz  and the butt turn schmooz "follow me) thingie.

I can’t wait to use “boob schmooz” and “butt turn schmooz” in casual conversation this week. 😆😆

Seriously, I did turn to my hubby when she did the “boob schmooz” and remarked that it was a Kalyssa move but not as in your face. 

Edited August 4, 2019 by ATLGirl

[SanDiegoGal]

25 minutes ago, Opine said:

Well, I definitely think it more about Amanda than Kat.  She made it clear with her words and actions.  Someone said it above - one and done and on to the Bachelor!!!  With Kat, I think it is just that the last candidate I saw that wowed me that much was Kalyssa.  I think for Kat, being a forever DCC would be a waste.  She is all that and a bag of chips.  So with her I am more assuming.

I am the one that started this firestorm about ambition.  @rafibomb put what I mean to say better than I did:

"Desperate to be famous" is just not an ambition I find particularly admirable, I guess. Success and fame are two very different things.

I think it would be difficult to have a whole team of one and dones - the desperate to be famous ones.  They need to pick up the Gina Marie's who have a current ambition to be a DCC but who also likely have a future ambition to do something else.

Thanks so much for your thoughtful answer to my question. I agree with you 100% about Amanda. I got the exact same impression. I also appreciate that you recognize Kat may not be "desperate to be famous" like Amanda, but that she would be wasting years if she stayed with DCC for a lengthy tenure.