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5 minutes ago, vivianspoetry said:

Has a redhead ever been point? Kelly has frequently commented on looking for differing hair colors, what better way to show that off than at point.  Savannah won ROTY, so they apparently think she is a good dancer.  If enough vets retire, is it inconceivable that Savannah could be point next year?  Not saying it would be my pick, but I could see it happening for those reasons, albeit a very slim possibility.  Would the boards riot more if Savannah was point or if VK makes the squad next year? 

ROTY is not about dance. Judy would murder Savannah before letting her be point. 

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47 minutes ago, jlc said:

Me either! She can pull an Alexandria and I would not be the least bit upset! (Sorry all you Christina fans)

Did I miss something .... why the Christina hate ? Has anyone here on the boards met her in person and she was rude?  I dont think we get a true impression from CMT. She has worked hard to get on the team ... I think she will go another year.

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On 10/23/2018 at 4:18 PM, J-R said:

One more thing....Bridget for point next year. 

I agree! I for sure see her in Gina or Khalyn’s position and depending on how many vets retite, triangle.

25 minutes ago, UnicornKicks said:

Basically said rookie year Kashara needed change her accent to be a DCC and pressed to keep her off show group first two years bc of it. Personally I wonder if she somehow intimidates JennK with her honesty and vibrance, and how she gets along so well and is inclusive to EVERYBODY, instead of being an elitist snot. JennK doesn't seem to realize honesty looks a whole lot more WORLD CLASS than being a robot.  

Ok as a Kashara AND JenK fan, i honestly don’t think Jenn had anything to do with this. When Kashara made show group last season most people here said she isn’t strong enough. I kinda agree, in the sense that in her first two years there was absolutely no way she could beat out any of the girls on SG. So maybe Jen made a comment that Kelli took into consideration, but I doubt she was a contender in place of Jenna, Jenn, Erica, Cersten and the rest.

7 minutes ago, vivianspoetry said:

Has a redhead ever been point? Kelly has frequently commented on looking for differing hair colors, what better way to show that off than at point.  Savannah won ROTY, so they apparently think she is a good dancer.  If enough vets retire, is it inconceivable that Savannah could be point next year?  Not saying it would be my pick, but I could see it happening for those reasons, albeit a very slim possibility.  Would the boards riot more if Savannah was point or if VK makes the squad next year? 

Jalyn for point!

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13 minutes ago, vivianspoetry said:

Has a redhead ever been point? Kelly has frequently commented on looking for differing hair colors, what better way to show that off than at point.  Savannah won ROTY, so they apparently think she is a good dancer.  If enough vets retire, is it inconceivable that Savannah could be point next year?  Not saying it would be my pick, but I could see it happening for those reasons, albeit a very slim possibility.  Would the boards riot more if Savannah was point or if VK makes the squad next year? 

ROTY is voted by the girls with Judy, Kelli and Charlotte having the final say so in who is picked. I seriously doubt it has to do with dancing skills. I also seriously doubt Savannah would be point girl. She is not a strong enough dancer to be one.

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This accent talk reminds me of a tidbit in a Malcolm Galdwell podcast about a controversy on Wheel of Fortune.  The answer was Seven Swans a Swimming, but the contestant pronounced it Seven Swans a Swimmin'.  The audience started applauding as if she had solved the puzzle, but Pat Sajak said they can't accept that answer and moved onto the next contestant.  What made it even more controversial was the fact that the g was already on the board, so it wasn't as if she didn't know the word.  I live in the upper Midwest, and even though our accents aren't very thick, most people tend to drop those g's, so that really stuck out to me while listening.

10 minutes ago, UnicornKicks said:

ROTY is not about dance. Judy would murder Savannah before letting her be point. 

Haha.  I didn't know ROTY wasn't about dance, but I didn't know they had a ROTY until a few minutes ago.  ?  What is it based on?

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2 hours ago, UnicornKicks said:

Same for weight and away from home for Maddie, esp. coming from Utah where most girls her age are married by now. I wonder if she feels the pressure and has never really dated. I know, she's like 21 or 22, but I had a big discussion with one of my friends who is also devout LDS, and it's different for her culture. 

I've wondered myself about Maddie's retirement since she's a devout LDS follower.  I believe female LDS over 21 do their 18 month mission.  She may decide to retire to do so.

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1 minute ago, Law Mom said:

Now that was the comment that made me a fan. All these TCCs are so careful with everything they say and finally here was a girl who had a sense of humor and was not afraid to use it in front of a camera.

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13 hours ago, sleepyjean said:

Good Lord, she's 50, not 80. I wish Judy still danced.

By 40 most people can tell which joints have the beginnings of arthritis...i cant pt the way I used to when i was in the military. I merely meant, it was nice to see her dancing, instead of explaining and then letting a young helper do the rest

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I don't dislike Kashara at all.  I do feel like CMT spent too much time focusing on her which made me kind of get sick of seeing her so much, but that is really a criticism of CMT.  I wish that they wouldn't pretend that there are only a couple of girls on the squad.  

I think that Kashara is very intelligent and that her accent is completely authentic.  However, I do personally believe that she knows how to play up her "country cuteness".  For instance, I think that she was well aware that her "I can even change your oil" comment would draw laughs and attention well before she said it.  So, I do think that she plays it up a bit.  I do think that she seems like a really nice person and a great teammate, but I disagree that she has no awareness of her country persona.

All of that being said, I have a feeling that I will miss her next year, especially if Gina gets point.  Kashara is really cute and glams up beautifully.  I don't find that to be true of Gina and some of the other possible contenders (although I do like some of the possibilities better than others).

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Unless something changes, Miranda is reaudtioning next year. She told us so at DCC camp, after she was engaged. 

I will miss Kashara next year simply because she is a genuinely nice person who tries to include everyone. That goes a long way with me, especially in this mean girl and me first world in which we live!

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1 hour ago, vivianspoetry said:

Has a redhead ever been point? Kelly has frequently commented on looking for differing hair colors, what better way to show that off than at point.  Savannah won ROTY, so they apparently think she is a good dancer.  If enough vets retire, is it inconceivable that Savannah could be point next year?  Not saying it would be my pick, but I could see it happening for those reasons, albeit a very slim possibility.  Would the boards riot more if Savannah was point or if VK makes the squad next year? 

yeah, ROTY has nothing to do with dance ability.  I adore Sav but can't ever see her as point LOL  

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I wouldn’t mind seeing vet Rachel move up a good bit in the formation. I think she’s a great dancer with lots of power. I am actually a bit surprised that she doesn’t have a better position this year. Gina, Lauren, Lexi, and Rachel are the remaining 2 year girls that I find to be above average dancers (I’m referring to average in terms of DCC, not dancing by regular people). 

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2 hours ago, UnicornKicks said:

Basically said rookie year Kashara needed change her accent to be a DCC and pressed to keep her off show group first two years bc of it. Personally I wonder if she somehow intimidates JennK with her honesty and vibrance, and how she gets along so well and is inclusive to EVERYBODY, instead of being an elitist snot. JennK doesn't seem to realize honesty looks a whole lot more WORLD CLASS than being a robot.  

I was ambivalent toward JennK until Yuko's rookie year.  I didn't see JennK (group leader, point) jumping in to befriend Yuko, take her under her wing and make her feel welcome - at least the cameras didn't show anything like that, nor did any insiders indicate that happened.  It was Kashara who did it.  I believe Kelly may have asked Kashara to help Yuko, but even so, she made her feel more a part of the sisterhood.  I'm a shy person and couldn't have done this.  Not to mention I would have been really intimidated by having to try to converse with someone I could barely understand and this would have been the situation both ways with Yuko understanding Kashara's strong accent.  My opinion is that Kashara deserved point if for no other reason than demonstrating leadership and showing what world class is just by what she did for Yuko.

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1 hour ago, Pebbles116 said:

+1

I thought it was hilarious, and something I'd have said, as would any number of my friends. it was just a joke, she wasn't being serious.

32 minutes ago, edelweiss said:

I don't dislike Kashara at all.  I do feel like CMT spent too much time focusing on her which made me kind of get sick of seeing her so much, but that is really a criticism of CMT.  I wish that they wouldn't pretend that there are only a couple of girls on the squad.  

I think that Kashara is very intelligent and that her accent is completely authentic.  However, I do personally believe that she knows how to play up her "country cuteness".  For instance, I think that she was well aware that her "I can even change your oil" comment would draw laughs and attention well before she said it.  So, I do think that she plays it up a bit.  I do think that she seems like a really nice person and a great teammate, but I disagree that she has no awareness of her country persona.

All of that being said, I have a feeling that I will miss her next year, especially if Gina gets point.  Kashara is really cute and glams up beautifully.  I don't find that to be true of Gina and some of the other possible contenders (although I do like some of the possibilities better than others).

and? who doesn't say something that they know will make people laugh? it was a first day, an intimidating day for first time rookies (and all rookies but esp those never there before), and having people laugh breaks that tension, shows her sense of humour, lets people relax.  why is it so bad to be aware that something you say will make someone laugh?

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1 hour ago, Law Mom said:

Now that was the comment that made me a fan. All these TCCs are so careful with everything they say and finally here was a girl who had a sense of humor and was not afraid to use it in front of a camera.

It’s not like you can’t understand what she is saying. If has something interesting to say, who cares about her accent? 

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8 minutes ago, Jess14 said:

I wouldn’t mind seeing vet Rachel move up a good bit in the formation. I think she’s a great dancer with lots of power. I am actually a bit surprised that she doesn’t have a better position this year. Gina, Lauren, Lexi, and Rachel are the remaining 2 year girls that I find to be above average dancers (I’m referring to average in terms of DCC, not dancing by regular people). 

I really like Rachel and I don’t really get why she’s being so overlooked. She’s too far in the back for someone with her power and dance ability.

5 minutes ago, MicahGiggles said:

JennK has a lot of nerve.  I was ambivalent toward her until Yuko's rookie year.  I didn't see JennK (group leader, point) jumping in to befriend Yuko, take her under her wing and make her feel welcome - at least the cameras didn't show anything like that, nor did any insiders indicate that happened.  It was Kashara who did it.  I believe Kelly may have asked Kashara to help Yuko, but even so, she made her feel more a part of the sisterhood.  I'm a shy person and couldn't have done this.  Not to mention I would have been really intimidated by having to try to converse with someone I could barely understand and this would have been the situation both ways with Yuko understanding Kashara's strong accent.  My opinion is that Kashara deserved point if for no other reason than demonstrating leadership and showing what world class is just by what she did for Yuko.

But Kelli paired up kashara with yuko precisely because Kashara has that big shiny personality. We have no idea if Jenn tried to include Yuko or not, but even if she completely ignored her (which I doubt), I don’t expect the point to be bffs with every single member of the squad just to have the ‘honor’ of dancing up front.

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2 hours ago, ByTor said:

I don't think the physical presence will be there for point...in the sense that I have a strong feeling she'll be retiring this year :)

I politely disagree. Her look is unique and she will obviously stand out from the rest.

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Aww I love Brennan - I hope she stays more than one year.  It's odd how there have been several women over the years who've tried out several times and when they finally make the team they're only there for a year.  I don't really dislike any of the ladies this year.  I could've done without the excessive focus on VK and Malena but I didn't really dislike VK.  She sorta reminded me of a puppy LOL.  With a "b" for a mom.  :)

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5 minutes ago, dreamcatcher said:

But Kelli paired up kashara with yuko precisely because Kashara has that big shiny personality. We have no idea if Jenn tried to include Yuko or not, but even if she completely ignored her (which I doubt), I don’t expect the point to be bffs with every single member of the squad just to have the ‘honor’ of dancing up front.

I didn't say they should be bffs, but as the leader of group one as well as basically the leader of the team overall, you would expect an effort to be made to help new folks feel welcome.  We can agree to disagree. I stick with my opinion.

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43 minutes ago, edelweiss said:

However, I do personally believe that she knows how to play up her "country cuteness".  For instance, I think that she was well aware that her "I can even change your oil" comment would draw laughs and attention well before she said it.  So, I do think that she plays it up a bit.  

If we are people living in the world interacting with other humans we know how to "play up" aspects of our personality to make people feel comfortable or to feel liked ourselves. That can be inauthentic, but I've never gotten a "she's faking it" vibe from Kashara. That accent is not a put on and it's offensive that people equate it with her genuineness or her intelligence.

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1 minute ago, veronicamers said:

If we are people living in the world interacting with other humans we know how to "play up" aspects of our personality to make people feel comfortable or to feel liked ourselves. That can be inauthentic, but I've never gotten a "she's faking it" vibe from Kashara. That accent is not a put on and it's offensive that people equate it with her genuineness or her intelligence.

Well said!  I try not to be overly sensitive about this but it's a real thing.  I grew up in Louisiana and now live in Houston so I have all kinds of an accent and have had people ask me if I'm trying to annoy them with a fake southern accent.  That's usually when my response will get me in trouble.  

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4 minutes ago, dreamcatcher said:

I really like Rachel and I don’t really get why she’s being so overlooked. She’s too far in the back for someone with her power and dance ability.

But Kelli paired up kashara with yuko precisely because Kashara has that big shiny personality. We have no idea if Jenn tried to include Yuko or not, but even if she completely ignored her (which I doubt), I don’t expect the point to be bffs with every single member of the squad just to have the ‘honor’ of dancing up front.

Agreed. I don’t care for Jenn K at all, but I think it’s unfair to insinuate that she, nor anyone else, never tried to make Yuko feel welcomed. Hell, did Yuko even say that she didn’t feel welcomed on the team? I honestly don’t remember. That’s not to take away from Kashara. She’s obviously a nice person with a welcoming personality, but I don’t Kashara had any increased responsibility to be friends with everyone just because she ended up getting point. If she is, great. If not, that’s fine too.  

Generally though, I disagree with this mindset that the point girl is somehow to supposed to be the nicest girl or even the leader of the team.....that’s what I think group leaders are for. Even when i was cheering in high school, seniors were front and center at the sidelines at football games, but for competitions, which were the premier events, absolutely not. If there was a senior and a sophomore who were equally good, then of course, the senior goes up front. Otherwise, the sophomore gets the spot. The notion that point shouldn’t be based on dance is odd to me.

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8 minutes ago, MicahGiggles said:

I didn't say they should be bffs, but as the leader of group one as well as basically the leader of the team overall, you would expect an effort to be made to help new folks feel welcome.  We can agree to disagree. I stick with my opinion.

Maybe Jen K didn't like Yuko's accent, either. LOL!

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1 hour ago, CowboysFanatic said:

I found a new video of the 2018 squad performing on the field. This was when the Cowboys went up against the Jaguars last week.

So many of them look like they are marking in sections, very little pop. There were mistakes, and some look completely bored. This is last week? 

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15 minutes ago, TexasBorn said:

I politely disagree. Her look is unique and she will obviously stand out from the rest.

Khalyn is beautiful and definitely a good dancer to be placed behind point, but as @ByTor said, I expect her to retire. She seems to be doing fine this year, but she was out for so many games last season due to injuries and even if she stays,I don’t think K&J would risk having her as point or even part of the triangle.

9 minutes ago, MicahGiggles said:

I didn't say they should be bffs, but as the leader of group one as well as basically the leader of the team overall, you would expect an effort to be made to help new folks feel welcome.  We can agree to disagree. I stick with my opinion.

I totally get what you’re saying! I’m just saying thay we have no indication that Jenn never tried or that she went out of her way to ignore her. For all we know, she suggested pairing Kash with Yuko because she knew Kash would be the perfect person for the job!

With that being said, I don’t actually expect anyone going out of their way for Yuko, at least no more than what they would do for an out of state girl. That’s probably harsh and I don’t mean that they shouldn’t do that if they want, but it was Yuko’s decision to move continents to go to a new place without even speaking the language just to be a cheerleader. I don’t really applaud this decision, but at the same time I do admire people moving abroad for their studies or a job opportunity (or just for the experience). I just don’t count dcc as a job opportunity.

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23 hours ago, Monique said:

Has a 2nd year ever been point? Also I don’t think Amber or Bridget will be point I think they both look young and too cutesy. 

Totally agree. While both are adorable and great dancers, as you said, too young and cutesy. 

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33 minutes ago, veronicamers said:

If we are people living in the world interacting with other humans we know how to "play up" aspects of our personality to make people feel comfortable or to feel liked ourselves. That can be inauthentic, but I've never gotten a "she's faking it" vibe from Kashara. That accent is not a put on and it's offensive that people equate it with her genuineness or her intelligence.

LOL! I am pretty sure that I stated in my post that I am not a Kashara hater and that I think she seems very nice and is very intelligent.  I have lots of positive thoughts about her.  But, in my opinion, she does play her "country-ness" up at times.  YMMV  We can agree to disagree about that.  :)

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Honestly, i don’t feel like I’d really notice if some of the current two year vets didn’t try out again. I still don’t feel like I really know them. Some yes, others I’m usually like oh yeah, i forgot all about her. And I guess it’ll feel the same next year. MTT really is kind of my only source of getting to know the girls, I don’t spend much time learning about them or getting to know them on social media. And lately I don’t feel like MTT has really been much help in that area. 

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On 10/23/2018 at 10:04 AM, CaseyRe said:

Personally, I don't ever see it happening, even with hard work and perserverance.  She doesn't have the 'look' to me of a point girl, nor do I think her dance is powerful enough. plus Kelli seems to have a real bug in her ear abut her coming back again this year, making out like its all about Brennan wanting to make it for the sake of making it, not because she's dying to be a dcc or some other guff. I just don't thnk Brennan is anywhere near charasmatic enough of a performer for point.

she's a registered cardiac nurse and has been for over four years now

Totally this ^  I could never imagine Brennan in any three spots of the triangle.  IMO, at the most, she's a blender. 

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I am ambivalent towards Kash, I really think she's the best person for point on the team at the moment cause she has that sparkle and pop...but I'm not a huge fan of her. The oil thing and all the country comments make me roll my eyes, but I don't dislike her and her accent. I actually do understand why people like her, she has a personality instead of just "yes ma'am."

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4 hours ago, go4luca said:

I've wondered myself about Maddie's retirement since she's a devout LDS follower.  I believe female LDS over 21 do their 18 month mission.  She may decide to retire to do so.

Im not sure if we are allowed to dicuss these things since it does involve religious culture, and since we arent Mormon, we cant really speak for the LDS culture, so a mod can delete this is needed. I lived in Ely, NV for 3 years which is majority LDS. My female friends were all LDS. Ive been to LDS worship services, and ive been to LDS community dinners. I am not LDS, and not any religion. What I do know is that the DCC uniform is completely unacceptable to the LDS culture. I would have to say if Maddie were comitted to her LDS faith there is no way she would be on the team. The LDS culture is historically inflexible. They excommunicate members for things less grievous than wearing the DCC uniform. Most likely, Maddie would have had to make a choice- one or the other but not both. If Maddies family members do attend LDS services, Id be willing to be the Elders of their Ward have expressed concern. Maddie chose DCC. The assumption could be made she is less worried about the age/marriage issue. Also, women dont have to go on Missions, where as the young men do. Maddie could certainly choose to go on a Mission, but it also doesnt have to be in her 21st year.

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3 minutes ago, Thebiglebowski said:

Im not sure if we are allowed to dicuss these things since it does involve religious culture, and since we arent Mormon, we cant really speak for the LDS culture, so a mod can delete this is needed. I lived in Ely, NV for 3 years which is majority LDS. My female friends were all LDS. Ive been to LDS worship services, and ive been to LDS community dinners. I am not LDS, and not any religion. What I do know is that the DCC uniform is completely unacceptable to the LDS culture. I would have to say if Maddie were comitted to her LDS faith there is no way she would be in the team. The LDS culture is historically inflexible. They excommunicate members for things less grievous than wearing the DCC uniform. Most likely, Maddie would have jad to make a choice- one or the other but not both. If Maddies family members do attend LDS services, Id be willing to be the Elders of their Ward of expressed concern. Maddie chose DCC. The assumprion could be made she is less worried about the age/marriage issue. Also, women dont have to go on Missions, where as the young men do. Maddie could certainly choose to go on a Mission, but it also doesnt have to be in her 21st year.

If this was aimed towards my post, I didn't say it had to be the 21st year . I did use "I believe" it happens after 21 nor did I say it was required.  Just to be clear. ;o)

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2 hours ago, Jess14 said:

Agreed. I don’t care for Jenn K at all, but I think it’s unfair to insinuate that she, nor anyone else, never tried to make Yuko feel welcomed. Hell, did Yuko even say that she didn’t feel welcomed on the team? I honestly don’t remember. That’s not to take away from Kashara. She’s obviously a nice person with a welcoming personality, but I don’t Kashara had any increased responsibility to be friends with everyone just because she ended up getting point. If she is, great. If not, that’s fine too.  

Generally though, I disagree with this mindset that the point girl is somehow to supposed to be the nicest girl or even the leader of the team.....that’s what I think group leaders are for. Even when i was cheering in high school, seniors were front and center at the sidelines at football games, but for competitions, which were the premier events, absolutely not. If there was a senior and a sophomore who were equally good, then of course, the senior goes up front. Otherwise, the sophomore gets the spot. The notion that point shouldn’t be based on dance is odd to me.

When Yuko was trying out again as a vet, they did a piece on her and she talked about feeling out of place during her first year. 

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21 hours ago, Jennv said:

Any guesses as to who will be a "one and done"?

Possibly Madeline.  IMO, she's still dances so awkward - I can't even watch her!!  Her facials are also unappealing. I just get the vibe that she's not a "favorite" . 

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18 hours ago, TexasBorn said:

I'm just going to say it ... I want Khalyn as point. Next year needs a strong black female role model.

I think Khalyn is absolutely deserving!!!  She is absolutely stunning and she can M.O.V.E !!!!   She definitely has Point Presence! !

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1 hour ago, Thebiglebowski said:

Im not sure if we are allowed to dicuss these things since it does involve religious culture, and since we arent Mormon, we cant really speak for the LDS culture, so a mod can delete this is needed. I lived in Ely, NV for 3 years which is majority LDS. My female friends were all LDS. Ive been to LDS worship services, and ive been to LDS community dinners. I am not LDS, and not any religion. What I do know is that the DCC uniform is completely unacceptable to the LDS culture. I would have to say if Maddie were comitted to her LDS faith there is no way she would be on the team. The LDS culture is historically inflexible. They excommunicate members for things less grievous than wearing the DCC uniform. Most likely, Maddie would have had to make a choice- one or the other but not both. If Maddies family members do attend LDS services, Id be willing to be the Elders of their Ward have expressed concern. Maddie chose DCC. The assumption could be made she is less worried about the age/marriage issue. Also, women dont have to go on Missions, where as the young men do. Maddie could certainly choose to go on a Mission, but it also doesnt have to be in her 21st year.

 

First, the age for women to go on missions has been lowered to 19, but you are right it is not "required" (expected is a better word -- males are not required to serve missions either, but they are expected to. Still, there are plenty who do not for various reasons. Females do not have that same expectation).

Second, I'm not sure what you're experience with the LDS church has been, or how long ago it was, but wearing the DCC uniform is not something she would be excommunicated for, nor would she have to choose between the Church and the DCC. As far as I know, Maddie is a member in good standing (as is Tasha, who had a child out of wedlock at age 18). Also, the Elders in her family's ward would not have any business "expressing their concern" over what Maddie is doing or have any jurisdiction over her. Once she moved to Texas, she would have been assigned to a ward there (not to mention, if it was appropriate to do, it wouldn't be the Elders -- they're not the ones who lead the ward).

Third, there are plenty of single women over the age of 21 in the LDS church. Many do get married early (say, 18-22), but there are just as many who get married later or not at all. And, if she is really worried about getting married, there are plenty of single LDS guys in Dalls/Ft. Worth to date. She would not need to quit the team to "find a husband."

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I wonder if K and J would ever cut more than neccessary to end up with a squad less than 36?

And this is just a drastic example- say they get to the end of training camp and they have 4 tcc struggling like Malena. Cutting 2 gets them to 36, but would they still take two strugglers onto the team? Or do you think they would be able to cut 4 and have an official team less than 36?

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1 hour ago, TexasBorn said:

So Jen A is the former DCC who is currently pregnant and was point in Season 11 right? Then who is Jen K? Was she Kash's and Yuko's GL?

I think they are the same - Jennifer Kathryn / Jennifer Amburn = Jenn K/A

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