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scorpio1031

scorpio1031

16 minutes ago, vivianspoetry said:

I don’t find her particularly beautiful either, so not really sure what she brings to the table. I’m curious to see how her year goes. Some of the women that I’m totally indifferent towards at first end up turning into some of my faves. Hoping that will be the case here. 

Isn't it funny:)  I think she's stunning and very well spoken.  I like the fact that she didn't give the standard cookie cutter answer about being in a pageant.  She may not be used to responding as Rachel, the person, as opposed to Rachel, the contestant.  And if she's like a lot of other rookies we've seen thru the years, she will develop that power and showmanship as she goes thru the year.  I think it's matter of getting used to the "DCC style" and becoming more confident.

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ShellyB
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Thanks for your kind words. The cut was surprising, to say the least. I’m not going to battle screen names with no personal connections to DCC on a message board. Dayton is a beautiful girl and talent

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Tara showed so much class and grace when she said she was not going to say goodbye because she was planning on going to the games to watch her former team mates. Now THAT is someone you want on your t

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Looks to me just like the locker room pictures we see every year. She’s standing in her locker, her family jumps in a picture with her. I see nothing scandalous about it. Every year girls post picture

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TexasBorn

TexasBorn

8 hours ago, DBAAT said:

She bugs me too!! I'm not sure why she didn't get cut other than they wanted to say the first runner up to Miss America was on the team. She has zero personalty, not fun to watch, no pop whatsoever and seems pretty full of herself. Lily or Tara should have had her spot.

After trainwrecks like Holly, Jenna, Erica, Kalysa ... The DCC needs a shot off class and dignity. RW is refreshing. 

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IzzyEnd

IzzyEnd

5 hours ago, ByTor said:

Yep, she's an adult who took a gamble and lost.

@ByTor , I am a first-time poster here. So please forgive me if this has been asked and beaten to death already. But something about this season just urked me so much I decided to take the plunge into this awesome board. I am totally confused. Is the same Malena we are all talking about the same one in this video? I timestamped the sections so people don't have to be tortured watching the whole thing. But if I am right, Malena and Jayln were on the Flight Crew together. Was that even mentioned on the show? And if I am right, how could K&J not know Malena's benched status with Jayln there too. Of course, I do shop regularly in the idiot aisle, so I might be way off. Anyone, help me out?

Savanna 1:18

Malena 2:20, 2:45, 6:31, 6:50, 8:05, 14:12, 14:53 (already called to team)

Jayln 4:08, 5:45 in uniform?, 8:45 (already called up for finals), 10:57 (solo), 13:27, 15:18, 17:24 (already announced to team), 19:20 (in kickline) no Malena in sight

 

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Pebbles116

Pebbles116

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9 minutes ago, IzzyEnd said:

@ByTor , I am a first-time poster here. So please forgive me if this has been asked and beaten to death already. But something about this season just urked me so much I decided to take the plunge into this awesome board. I am totally confused. Is the same Malena we are all talking about the same one in this video? I timestamped the sections so people don't have to be tortured watching the whole thing. But if I am right, Malena and Jayln were on the Flight Crew together. Was that even mentioned on the show? And if I am right, how could K&J not know Malena's benched status with Jayln there too. Of course, I do shop regularly in the idiot aisle, so I might be way off. Anyone, help me out?

Savanna 1:18

Malena 2:20, 2:45, 6:31, 6:50, 8:05, 14:12, 14:53 (already called to team)

Jayln 4:08, 5:45 in uniform?, 8:45 (already called up for finals), 10:57 (solo), 13:27, 15:18, 17:24 (already announced to team), 19:20 (in kickline) no Malena in sight

 

 

Non dancer over here, but to me this video shows just how world class the DCC are. Half of these girls really can't dance, their figures need work (in terms of cheerleading, not "real life"), they're not in sync with the choreography or music. Just wow. The DCC really DO look like an entirely different team/different standards.

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sleepyjean

sleepyjean

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1 hour ago, IzzyEnd said:

@ByTor , I am a first-time poster here. So please forgive me if this has been asked and beaten to death already. But something about this season just urked me so much I decided to take the plunge into this awesome board. I am totally confused. Is the same Malena we are all talking about the same one in this video? I timestamped the sections so people don't have to be tortured watching the whole thing. But if I am right, Malena and Jayln were on the Flight Crew together. Was that even mentioned on the show? And if I am right, how could K&J not know Malena's benched status with Jayln there too. Of course, I do shop regularly in the idiot aisle, so I might be way off. Anyone, help me out?

 

Tara was on the Flight Crew 3 years, 2013-16

Savannah was on the Flight Crew 3 years, 2014-17

Jalyn and Malena were on the Flight Crew 1 year, 2017-18

On top of that, Denise Garvey, Director of the Flight Crew Cheerleaders is a former DCC. You bet your bottom dollar Kelli or someone on her team spoke with Denise when checking Malena and Jalyn's references. Kelli absolutely knew that Malena was benched, and she knew it long before she discussed it on camera with Malena.

 

Edit: Fixed Denise's name.

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IzzyEnd

IzzyEnd

1 minute ago, sleepyjean said:

Tara was on the Flight Crew 3 years, 2013-16

Savannah was on the Flight Crew 3 years, 2014-17

Jalyn and Malena were on the Flight Crew 1 year, 2017-18

On top of that, Denise Harvey, Director of the Flight Crew Cheerleaders is a former DCC. You bet your bottom dollar Kelli or someone on her team spoke with Denise when checking Malena and Jalyn's references. Kelli absolutely knew that Malena was benched, and she knew it long before she discussed it on camera with Malena.

Well Jeeze, call me the most naive idiot on the aisle. What can I trust on the show these days? Is it me or has this been the most staged season ever? No wonder I am endlessly irked this year. Can you imagine backroom conversations that must have gone on during camp about this mess? I always wondered about the comments of bringing girls into camp just for "rating drama". Honestly, I took it more lightly than I do at this very moment now. Forget the whole VK issue....have TPTB lost their minds chasing their checks? Sooooooooooooo disappointed in them. What are future DCC hopefuls supposed to think? Let me ask you then, do you think Malena had a clue she was being used? Wonder if Jayln was privately feeling sorry for Malena and wondering what K&J were doing? Sometimes I worry these girls are just prey to the organization (current DCC not past DCC). The journey to being a DCC is compelling enough to me without this extra....EXTRA!

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scorpio1031

scorpio1031

2 minutes ago, IzzyEnd said:

Well Jeeze, call me the most naive idiot on the aisle. What can I trust on the show these days? Is it me or has this been the most staged season ever? No wonder I am endlessly irked this year. Can you imagine backroom conversations that must have gone on during camp about this mess? I always wondered about the comments of bringing girls into camp just for "rating drama". Honestly, I took it more lightly than I do at this very moment now. Forget the whole VK issue....have TPTB lost their minds chasing their checks? Sooooooooooooo disappointed in them. What are future DCC hopefuls supposed to think? Let me ask you then, do you think Malena had a clue she was being used? Wonder if Jayln was privately feeling sorry for Malena and wondering what K&J were doing? Sometimes I worry these girls are just prey to the organization (current DCC not past DCC). The journey to being a DCC is compelling enough to me without this extra....EXTRA!

I just think it's Kelli's taking a "diamond in the rough" and trying to turn them into a DCC.   Whether it's a storyline or Kelli's ego, it's just getting old. Even Judy has made comments about it, and I'm sure she's frustrated.  The faster you can form the team, the faster you can set formations, do the squad photo, get ready for the season.  But noooooo, they have to drag it out to the last minute to see if the "diamond" ever picks up the dances.

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PrincessLeia

PrincessLeia

1 hour ago, Pebbles116 said:

Non dancer over here, but to me this video shows just how world class the DCC are. Half of these girls really can't dance, their figures need work (in terms of cheerleading, not "real life"), they're not in sync with the choreography or music. Just wow. The DCC really DO look like an entirely different team/different standards.

The DCC really are the best. The Texans cheerleaders look a hot mess on the field and most of the girls are soft. They don’t even compare to the DCC.

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MrsEVH

MrsEVH

1 hour ago, IzzyEnd said:

@ByTor , I am a first-time poster here. So please forgive me if this has been asked and beaten to death already. But something about this season just urked me so much I decided to take the plunge into this awesome board. I am totally confused. Is the same Malena we are all talking about the same one in this video? I timestamped the sections so people don't have to be tortured watching the whole thing. But if I am right, Malena and Jayln were on the Flight Crew together. Was that even mentioned on the show? And if I am right, how could K&J not know Malena's benched status with Jayln there too. Of course, I do shop regularly in the idiot aisle, so I might be way off. Anyone, help me out?

Savanna 1:18

Malena 2:20, 2:45, 6:31, 6:50, 8:05, 14:12, 14:53 (already called to team)

Jayln 4:08, 5:45 in uniform?, 8:45 (already called up for finals), 10:57 (solo), 13:27, 15:18, 17:24 (already announced to team), 19:20 (in kickline) no Malena in sight

 

I've seen this a few times. I love the story of the girl who tried out for 5 years and finally made it. Also the vet who got cut coming back to her 2nd year but then makes it back the following year.

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Tuxcat

Tuxcat

2 hours ago, scorpio1031 said:

I just think it's Kelli's taking a "diamond in the rough" and trying to turn them into a DCC.   Whether it's a storyline or Kelli's ego, it's just getting old. Even Judy has made comments about it, and I'm sure she's frustrated.  The faster you can form the team, the faster you can set formations, do the squad photo, get ready for the season.  But noooooo, they have to drag it out to the last minute to see if the "diamond" ever picks up the dances.

Malena is gorgeous, photogenic and well spoken. She would represent any team well. She's already a diamond is that regard. She's a great dancer too. Her problem was memory - and its memory within a group setting - it seems. When forced to do it on her own she's fine. I'm glad they gave her a chance but she's got something going on that needs attention - more so than Kelli giving her a shot. Kelli should have realized this a LONG time ago - encouraged her to see a sports psych. - and told her to try again when she's figures out why she freaks on the field. No amount of time or polishing will fix this this issue. And that's been clear for a really long time. Why they took her to the end of training camp is beyond me. It seems almost cruel.

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SSAHotchner

SSAHotchner

On 10/19/2018 at 9:48 AM, MTTFan said:

Fiesty isn't the word I would use.  Bitchy is more like it -- sorry -- they have been following social media the entire training camp and had to know that their judgment concerning VK was being discussed -- it doesn't take more than 15 minutes of observing weight gain, mistakes, and toxic behavior to realize that someone should have been cut long before now. 

Yeah. My guess if it were up to Judy alone she'd have no trouble cutting anyone who wasn't making it as a dancer. Sure they've known this girl since she was born, but all the more reason to make totally clear to her before she even thinks of auditioning that she cannot and will not get special treatment. She knew what the requirements were as far as weight is concerned. And we weren't allowed to see much of her dancing in case we could all see she wasn't cutting it, and still we were all aware of many reasons why she should have been cut. I'm sure Judy's trying to do some damage control to take the heat off of Kelli, but there are too many folks who have been watching for too long to not notice the extreme difference in the way VK was handled compared to all the other TCCs in all the other seasons. 

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SSAHotchner

SSAHotchner

2 minutes ago, Tuxcat said:

Malena is gorgeous, photogenic and well spoken. She would represent any team well. She's already a diamond is that regard. She's a great dancer too. Her problem was memory - and its memory within a group setting - it seems. When forced to do it on her own she's fine. I'm glad they gave her a chance but she's got something going on that needs attention - more so than Kelli giving her a shot. Kelli should have realized this a LONG time ago - encouraged her to see a sports psych. - and told her to try again when she's figures out why she freaks on the field. No amount of time or polishing will fix this this issue. And that's been clear for a really long time. Why they took her to the end of training camp is beyond me. It seems almost cruel.

I think it would be far more likely that she'd screw up on her own with all of the attention on her if it were a psychological thing and not just a lack of being able to remember all of every dance. Malena is all the things you say she is and would be a fine ambassador. I think she needs more experience learning lots of dances of various styles so that they come easier to her. I'm pretty sure most of us think she should have been eliminated much earlier for memory issues. It's like the girls in previous seasons who could do everything except kick high. Kelli should just have told her she was right in every other way and just needed to work on this and come back when she's more at ease learning dances at the pace the DCC moves. 

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PBSLover

PBSLover

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3 hours ago, IzzyEnd said:

Is it me or has this been the most staged season ever?

This season has been a big mess. What we are seeing is disjointed editing because so much has gone on behind the scenes that I think they (CMT/Kelli/Charlotte) needed to figure out what they can and cannot show or film, so we are not seeing fluid (or close to) like we are used to. We’ve never seen, in all the years of the show, Kelli not being able to cut girls.

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MTTFan

MTTFan

6 minutes ago, Gigi88 said:

I find this very hard to believe 

I am not sure that I totally believe it, but I can totally see it.  If the rumors are true, VK played up her relationship with Kelli Judy et al, and would "tattle" on the other girls.  I can see it not being worth the drama if you are worried about whatever you say getting back to TPTB.

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tinabee1967

tinabee1967

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3 hours ago, MTTFan said:

No - welcome to the team.  :)

 

1 hour ago, PBSLover said:

This season has been a big mess. What we are seeing is disjointed editing because so much has gone on behind the scenes that I think they (CMT/Kelli/Charlotte) needed to figure out what they can and cannot show or film, so we are not seeing fluid (or close to) like we are used to. We’ve never seen, in all the years of the show, Kelli not being able to cut girls.

 

Really lame product placements, delayed cut decisions, not enough Kitty, too many guest choreographers with weird routines, VK 24/7/365 and the same old dialogue have ruined this season. If CMT picks this back up for DCCMTT 14, I will be surprised. Then again, S13 has allegedly been the highest rated. The viewers in general must love manufactured drama. Bring back this show when it was done during the Texas Stadium days, please.

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bigskygirl

bigskygirl

25 minutes ago, MTTFan said:

I am not sure that I totally believe it, but I can totally see it.  If the rumors are true, VK played up her relationship with Kelli Judy et al, and would "tattle" on the other girls.  I can see it not being worth the drama if you are worried about whatever you say getting back to TPTB.

I can believe it especially after the last two seasons. I bet girls have left in the past due to dealing with toxic girls. A girl can only take so much.

Tuxcat

Tuxcat

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1 hour ago, SSAHotchner said:

I think it would be far more likely that she'd screw up on her own with all of the attention on her if it were a psychological thing and not just a lack of being able to remember all of every dance. Malena is all the things you say she is and would be a fine ambassador. I think she needs more experience learning lots of dances of various styles so that they come easier to her. I'm pretty sure most of us think she should have been eliminated much earlier for memory issues. It's like the girls in previous seasons who could do everything except kick high. Kelli should just have told her she was right in every other way and just needed to work on this and come back when she's more at ease learning dances at the pace the DCC moves. 

Can't diagnose of course but I see your point for sure. She definitely needs more experience regardless. From what I am seeing -which is very limited- I think she is distracted with the other girls moving around. When Judy forced her, a few times, she did great under pressure and on her own. In a group, she seems to have trouble remembering and focusing - for whatever reason. Same reason she made the flight crew but got benched? A sports psych can help with other things besides performance anxiety.

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IzzyEnd

IzzyEnd

1 hour ago, PBSLover said:

This season has been a big mess. What we are seeing is disjointed editing because so much has gone on behind the scenes that I think they (CMT/Kelli/Charlotte) needed to figure out what they can and cannot show or film, so we are not seeing fluid (or close to) like we are used to. We’ve never seen, in all the years of the show, Kelli not being able to cut girls.

@PBSLover , Oh that makes sense. Disjointed, YES! I couldn't find the word. @tinabee1967, I agree. The infomercials force fitted in episodes this season bothered me too.  What's weird to me is it comes off desperate for attention. Almost as if TPTB are having an identity crisis, and can't figure out what it is they really want. Dance show, facility promo, a beloved child on a legacy journey of a lifetime, yet another comeback girl story (but not really a comeback). 

You both are right. I guess I get it now. How on earth did we get here? Whoever said the show "jumped the shark", seems right. So what should the name of the show be now???  OH and thanks to everyone for the welcome. 

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sleepyjean

sleepyjean

1 hour ago, woodscommaelle said:

Why is there no show of Making the Jets Crew? I would totally watch that.

I would love to see MTT for any other NFL squad. I really enjoyed these years ago:

NFL Cheerleaders Making the Squad - Tampa Bay Buccaneers

NFL Cheerleaders Making the Squad - San Diego Chargers

NFL Cheerleaders Making the Squad - Miami Dolphins

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SimplePleasures

SimplePleasures

4 hours ago, PrincessLeia said:

The DCC really are the best. The Texans cheerleaders look a hot mess on the field and most of the girls are soft. They don’t even compare to the DCC.

You want to talk about a hot mess, check out the Cincinnati Ben-Gals.  Ugliest cheerleaders in the NFL.  Some of the noses on those women......OMG!

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tinabee1967

tinabee1967

Me, too! I bought the DVDs years ago.

28 minutes ago, sleepyjean said:

I would love to see MTT for any other NFL squad. I really enjoyed these years ago:

NFL Cheerleaders Making the Squad - Tampa Bay Buccaneers

NFL Cheerleaders Making the Squad - San Diego Chargers

NFL Cheerleaders Making the Squad - Miami Dolphins

tinabee1967

tinabee1967

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41 minutes ago, sleepyjean said:

Go Hannah! Still needs to work on the three Ps and really commit to the moves, but it's nice to see her dedication.

She dances way too fluid and soft for DCC style right now. Hopefully, she will keep working at it. Hannah is a cute girl, but lacks that glamorous WOW factor. 

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PBSLover

PBSLover

1 hour ago, tinabee1967 said:

Really lame product placements, delayed cut decisions, not enough Kitty, too many guest choreographers with weird routines, VK 24/7/365 and the same old dialogue have ruined this season. If CMT picks this back up for DCCMTT 14, I will be surprised. Then again, S13 has allegedly been the highest rated. The viewers in general must love manufactured drama. Bring back this show when it was done during the Texas Stadium days, please.

Amen. I want to see dance and struggles and who’s making the team. I want to get to know ALL the TCCs. Only. All the drama is boring and takes away from the show.

57 minutes ago, Tuxcat said:

Can't diagnose of course but I see your point for sure. She definitely needs more experience regardless. From what I am seeing -which is very limited- I think she is distracted with the other girls moving around. When Judy forced her, a few times, she did great under pressure and on her own. In a group, she seems to have trouble remembering and focusing - for whatever reason. Same reason she made the flight crew but got benched? A sports psych can help with other things besides performance anxiety.

Yes. This. Malena knows the dances, she just can’t seem to execute them.

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sATL

sATL

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4 hours ago, Tuxcat said:

Can't diagnose of course but I see your point for sure. She definitely needs more experience regardless. From what I am seeing -which is very limited- I think she is distracted with the other girls moving around. When Judy forced her, a few times, she did great under pressure and on her own. In a group, she seems to have trouble remembering and focusing - for whatever reason. Same reason she made the flight crew but got benched? A sports psych can help with other things besides performance anxiety.

 

surprising that K&J didn't send her to one.  I'm sure the cowboys have a  team sports psych on staff.. Looking back after the Jets situation, little surprised she or no one close in her close inner  circle didn't mention seeking out a psy to help.  If ins didn't pay, I would think being around "college football" employee would have lead to a discounted hourly fee.

Now if she has gone to one - which could very well be  secret to us due to HIPPA....then... hmmmm...

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Law Mom

Law Mom

3 hours ago, EricaShadows said:

You did.  She's in the pink-and-white shirt in the middle of the group.  

Roads have exits, just saying.

Kidding aside, her biggest problem is that she has absolutely no sense of musicality. She can lose weight, get a makeover, increase her flexibility, and get better at learning choreography till the cows come home, but I'm not sure she will ever be a "dancer."

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dreamcatcher

dreamcatcher

2 hours ago, Pebbles116 said:

Hi, I'm Pebbles, and I am obsessed with Erin. Like major girl crush. I feel like no one talks about her on these boards but I adore her. And Bridget.

I like her too! It’s unbelievable that she made that much progress in under a year. I shouldn’t be bringing VK up all the time, but VK, pleasw work with erin if you’re only willing to work with girls who have ‘been there’.

i adore Bridget too. I think next year (and depending on how many vets retire-i think almost all upper vets will) she’s going to move up to either triangle, or Khalyn/Gina’s spot.

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sATL

sATL

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Amy's feature " Vet's Life outside of DCC " has been on my mind all weekend. What an accomplishment at a young age. She's a visionary

http://eminencedancecomplex.com/

Anybody know or have a good guess how much capital is needed to start your own dance studio ? Do dance studio's carry liability insurance - in case someone gets hurt ?  She mentioned she teaches baby classes but the girls look school age - so she teaches when - before school hours or just right after until 5- 5:30 ?

Then the capital needed to do the build-out, make initial payroll, and lease the space until enough parents pay the monthly dues.  She must have written an excellent proposal to get a SBA loan..

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hannahbanana

hannahbanana

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4 hours ago, sATL said:

Amy's feature " Vet's Life outside of DCC " has been on my mind all weekend. What an accomplishment at a young age. She's a visionary

http://eminencedancecomplex.com/

Anybody know or have a good guess how much capital is needed to start your own dance studio ? Do dance studio's carry liability insurance - in case someone gets hurt ?  She mentioned she teaches baby classes but the girls look school age - so she teaches when - before school hours or just right after until 5- 5:30 ?

Then the capital needed to do the build-out, make initial payroll, and lease the space until enough parents pay the monthly dues.  She must have written an excellent proposal to get a SBA loan..

 

On the schedule, it looks like she is teaching 2-5 year olds, some days late mornings & some days afternoons. They provably filmed her with older kids just for the episode.

I never knew Mary Kay & Sally Beauty Supply Seminars had such dedicated entertainment (read their bios -- man, do they need an editor/proofreader).

According to this article, between $10,000 & $50,000 is needed to start a dance studio. Insurance is a must.

https://dancefreak.com/how-to-start-a-dance-studio-on-a-budget/

I suspect they're either both highly in debt (neither have been out of college that long) or there is a lot of family money involved. It could also be a combination of the two.

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Kayce

Kayce

On 10/19/2018 at 7:44 PM, KnyghtRyder said:

I was gonna guess Lauren! I even tried to find her Instagram to find a video & do a voice match. If CMT didn’t also doctor the clip regarding Lauren’s pep talk, what a sweet and inspiring girl she is. And after looking at her IG, I feel like I didn’t realize how dang pretty she is too. She’s adorable. 

I LOVE Lauren!  (and not just because she's a fellow nurse) She seems to be one of the most genuine and caring people on the team.  I would love to see her be a long term member!

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