Josiah and Lauren: He Has To Marry Somebody

[Lunera]

I can imagine Lauren making them have a weird prayer ritual  before sex. These two are so strange, that's all they care about. There is no spark like there is between Abbie and JD.

[BrianJ1962]

1 hour ago, JoanArc said:

Ooh shit.  Looks like she forced Josiah  to do the deed again. 

Missionary position I'm sure, no kink only vanilla

[fonfereksglen]

2 minutes ago, Lunera said:

I can imagine Lauren making them have a weird prayer ritual  before sex. These two are so strange, that's all they care about. There is no spark like there is between Abbie and JD.

How is that her fault?  In that picture, she is the young heifer surrounded by a bunch of perpetually milking cows.

[awaken]

Holy flaring nostrils, Lauren’s mom!!  

Yep- maternity dresses the last few photos, cradling the belly in this one.  It’s official. 

[zoomama]

58 minutes ago, Lunera said:

I can imagine Lauren making them have a weird prayer ritual  before sex. These two are so strange, that's all they care about. There is no spark like there is between Abbie and JD.

lauren LOOKS preggers here....maybe keeping quiet till further along but her belly looks pretty rounded.

[Barb23]

7 hours ago, ozziemom said:

Dead eyes. Lauren’s mom looks younger than Jill.

10 hours ago, Lunera said:

Lauren wore Jinger's old maternity dress to her birthday dinner 

Notice how nice Lauren's mom's hair looks compared with Jill's mop.  Jill could have at least combed or brushed hers that morning.  Or it looks much better when she braids it or wears it up. Lauren's hair looks nice as well.

6 hours ago, BigBingerBro said:

That's her mom!?!  I thought it was a slightly older sister!

I'm surprised too.  I didn't recognize her & was going to ask who she was.

[floridamom]

I don't remember Lauren being that 'well endowed'. Her bust looks like it grew 4 cup sizes. I have to wonder too, if she's expecting.

[FizzyPuff]

7 hours ago, Barb23 said:

Notice how nice Lauren's mom's hair looks compared with Jill's mop.  Jill could have at least combed or brushed hers that morning.  Or it looks much better when she braids it or wears it up. Lauren's hair looks nice as well.

I'm surprised too.  I didn't recognize her & was going to ask who she was.

I hope Lauren’s mom gave them all tips about the benefit of getting a hair cut now and again. Does anyone find it weird that Jill has a nose piercing but she’s never had a hair cut?

[BitterApple]

Lauren's definitely pregnant. Her boobs are huge, she's wearing a maternity dress and you can see a slight rounding in her belly. I'm assuming they're just waiting longer to announce.

I hope things go well for her this time around, but there's just something about her and Si's relationship that is so sad. 

[ginger90]

[Scarlett45]

1 hour ago, BitterApple said:

Lauren's definitely pregnant. Her boobs are huge, she's wearing a maternity dress and you can see a slight rounding in her belly. I'm assuming they're just waiting longer to announce.

I hope things go well for her this time around, but there's just something about her and Si's relationship that is so sad. 

I think so too. I don’t think Josiah would be an unkind or cruel husband, but yes there is something about their relationship that’s just “off”. You can tell Joe & Kendra like each other quite a bit, Josiah seems to barely tolerate Lauren sometimes. 

She JUST turned 20? So she married at 18? Didn’t see and Josiah get married a year ago?(she was 18, almost 19). Golly. I’ll have to look at Duggar data but Kendra was the youngest bride and she was a close second. 

[madpsych78]

There's something about Josiah wearing a Superman shirt that I find delightful. 

Edited May 19, 2019 by madpsych78

[JoanArc]

14 hours ago, fonfereksglen said:

I look at it differently and feel sorry for this girl.   Very sad situation.

Oh I feel sorry for her , and everyone who isn’t a parent responsible for this. But there are levels of responsibility.

[Lisa418722]

14 hours ago, fonfereksglen said:

I look at it differently and feel sorry for this girl.   Very sad situation.

I feel sorry for both Lauren and Josiah because they are in a relationship that neither one of them really wanted, in my opinion.   If she is pregnant, I am happy for both of them so that maybe people will lay off them for a little while (family as well as their followers). 

[Temperance]

1 hour ago, Scarlett45 said:

I think so too. I don’t think Josiah would be an unkind or cruel husband, but yes there is something about their relationship that’s just “off”. You can tell Joe & Kendra like each other quite a bit, Josiah seems to barely tolerate Lauren sometimes. 

She JUST turned 20? So she married at 18? Didn’t see and Josiah get married a year ago?(she was 18, almost 19). Golly. I’ll have to look at Duggar data but Kendra was the youngest bride and she was a close second. 

She and Josiah got married last June at the end of June.  (She would have turned 19 in May). Every Duggar and Bates bride/groom has been at least 19 when they got married. Kendra was the youngest Duggar bride, then Lauren, etc. Here is the chart from Duggar Data:

"Kendra Caldwell   Age 19.08

Lauren Swanson   Age 19.12

Ben Seewald   Age 19.46

Joy Duggar   Age 19.58

Anna Keller   Age 20.26

Josh Duggar   Age 20.57

Josiah Duggar   Age 21.84

Jessa Duggar   Age 21.99

Joseph Duggar   Age 22.63

Jinger Duggar   Age 22.87

Jill Duggar   Age 23.10

Austin Forsyth   Age 23.46

Derick Dillard   Age 25.28

Abbie Burnett   Age 26.55

John Duggar   Age 28.81

Jeremy Vuolo   Age 29.17"

[zoomama]

44 minutes ago, Temperance said:

She and Josiah got married last June at the end of June.  (She would have turned 19 in May). Every Duggar and Bates bride/groom has been at least 19 when they got married. Kendra was the youngest Duggar bride, then Lauren, etc. Here is the chart from Duggar Data:

"Kendra Caldwell   Age 19.08

Lauren Swanson   Age 19.12

Ben Seewald   Age 19.46

Joy Duggar   Age 19.58

Anna Keller   Age 20.26

Josh Duggar   Age 20.57

Josiah Duggar   Age 21.84

Jessa Duggar   Age 21.99

Joseph Duggar   Age 22.63

Jinger Duggar   Age 22.87

Jill Duggar   Age 23.10

Austin Forsyth   Age 23.46

Derick Dillard   Age 25.28

Abbie Burnett   Age 26.55

John Duggar   Age 28.81

Jeremy Vuolo   Age 29.17"

call me dim but i do not understand this chart.

[MsJamieDornan]

Age plus days ???

Edited May 19, 2019 by MsJamieDornan

[Churchhoney]

35 minutes ago, zoomama said:

call me dim but i do not understand this chart.

Not dim at all. Just an unusual presentation. (very unusual!)

I think the number after the decimal point is the percentage of their next full year of life the spouse had attained by the wedding day....

So Kendra turned 19 in August and got married in early September -- and wasn't even a tenth of the way to turning 20. She'd passed through a mere 8 percent of her 20th year when she got married. That made her 19.08 years old when she married. 

And so on.....

Boy,  I'd almost forgotten how young Bin was when he got himself into the soup. 

Edited May 19, 2019 by Churchhoney

[Scarlett45]

26 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

Not dim at all. Just an unusual presentation. (very unusual!)

I think the number after the decimal point is the percentage of their next full year of life the spouse had attained by the wedding day....

So Kendra turned 19 in August and got married in early September -- and wasn't even a tenth of the way to turning 20. She'd passed through a mere 8 percent of her 20th year when she got married. That made her 19.08 years old when she married. 

And so on.....

Boy,  I'd almost forgotten how young Bin was when he got himself into the soup. 

Yes exactly that’s how the information is presented. 

[Churchhoney]

29 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said:

Yes exactly that’s how the information is presented. 

It really highlights Bin. He wasn't even 19 and a half. And on the fast track to fathering a baseball team. Yikes. 

ETA: Just noticed that, on the same wedding day, wife Jessa was 99 percent of her way from 21 to 22. I knew they backed the wedding up against her birthday to keep her 21 when she married the 19-year-old. but I love seeing the .99 after her 21. 😁

Edited May 19, 2019 by Churchhoney

[BrianJ1962]

34 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

He wasn't even 19 and a half.

Blessed Jessa was almost robbing the cradle with Dust Bin.

[Lunera]

Yup, Jessa was so desperate to leave Boob's grasp she settled for a teen groom. Shows how immature she was too, being 21 and going after and 18 year old. He turns 24 today btw.

[Scarlett45]

18 minutes ago, Lunera said:

Yup, Jessa was so desperate to leave Boob's grasp she settled for a teen groom. Shows how immature she was too, being 21 and going after and 18 year old. He turns 24 today btw.

This doesn’t bother me- it wasn’t as if Jessa was especially worldly or emotionally mature. She had more hours of childcare duties due to being a Duggar but she wasn’t out living as an adult for 3 years and trying to “date” someone just out of high school. 

Kendra & Joe, Austin & Joy are also about 2.5 yrs a part. 

I do think she wanted to get from under JB’s thumb but I also think she did like/was physically attracted to Ben. 

[Nysha]

2 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said:

Kendra & Joe, Austin & Joy are also about 2.5 yrs a part. 

Yep, and while there have been remarks about Kendra still being a teenager, nobody is accusing Joe of trolling for high school students. There is still a bias about women being older than their husbands.

[Scarlett45]

1 minute ago, Nysha said:

Yep, and while there have been remarks about Kendra still being a teenager, nobody is accusing Joe of trolling for high school students. There is still a bias about women being older than their husbands.

The age gap isn’t even that big! It’s not as if Jessa was 32 and courting an 18/19 year old. In the real world they would’ve been in college at the same time. 

[Churchhoney]

53 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said:

The age gap isn’t even that big! It’s not as if Jessa was 32 and courting an 18/19 year old. In the real world they would’ve been in college at the same time. 

Plus, they're all very young for their ages. Both the Duggarlings and most of the marryers-in come from very sheltered environments. I don't think there's a whole lot of difference between a youngish 20-something and a 19 year old in their super-sheltered world. None of them have really been off the homestead or ever fended for themselves. 

I worry about Bin himself, though, because when the show eventually ends supporting that family's going to be on his head, I fear. And I don't think he's really gotten the opportunity to prepare for that particular burden. His growing-up-and-getting-training-and-job-experience period was cut very short, no matter how old or young the immediate-breeder he married was, in their world. 

[awaken]

Uh, I believe that’s a macaron, Lauren, not a macaroon!  

[madpsych78]

4 hours ago, Scarlett45 said:

This doesn’t bother me- it wasn’t as if Jessa was especially worldly or emotionally mature. She had more hours of childcare duties due to being a Duggar but she wasn’t out living as an adult for 3 years and trying to “date” someone just out of high school. 

Kendra & Joe, Austin & Joy are also about 2.5 yrs a part. 

I do think she wanted to get from under JB’s thumb but I also think she did like/was physically attracted to Ben. 

I think most of the couples are in the range of 2 to 3 years apart, with the exceptions being Josh/Anna (months apart) and Jeremy/Jinger (6 years apart).

[cmr2014]

5 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

Plus, they're all very young for their ages. Both the Duggarlings and most of the marryers-in come from very sheltered environments. I don't think there's a whole lot of difference between a youngish 20-something and a 19 year old in their super-sheltered world. None of them have really been off the homestead or ever fended for themselves. 

I worry about Bin himself, though, because when the show eventually ends supporting that family's going to be on his head, I fear. And I don't think he's really gotten the opportunity to prepare for that particular burden. His growing-up-and-getting-training-and-job-experience period was cut very short, no matter how old or young the immediate-breeder he married was, in their world. 

Oddly enough, I think Ben might be okay. He's shown some actual get-up-and-go in the past.

As creepy as it sounds, he saw Jessa on television, decided to meet/marry her and made it happen. He had a couple of jobs before courting, too -- windshield repair and working in an insurance office. He has also continued his education despite what I would imagine are VERY strong headwinds against such a "waste" of time and money in Duggar-world.

[Trillium]

Lauren is pregnant

Couldn’t announce until they got their paycheck from People. 

[Lunera]

Lauren is pregnant 

https://people.com/tv/josiah-duggar-lauren-swanson-expecting-after-miscarriage/

[Patricia07]

Do her feet look swollen?

[allonsyalice]

4 minutes ago, Patricia07 said:

Do her feet look swollen?

that + those heels on grass. 

[Sew Sumi]

IG announcement.

[JoanArc]

How did they know the sex of Baby #1? Really, top stop milking it already.

Hopefully this pregnancy will be an easy one, and they'll never treat this baby like a consolation prize.

[Trillium]

3 minutes ago, JoanArc said:

How did they know the sex of Baby #1? Really, top stop milking it already.

Hopefully this pregnancy will be an easy one, and they'll never treat this baby like a consolation prize.

These two this is pro-life propaganda. But my cousin who’s 100% and vocally pro-choice posts frequently and often about her miscarriage baby (she has 4 living children ages 4 - 6 months) and has a whole shelf in her house with the pregnancy test, an angel figurine and some poem about it. So some people are just like that. And while I silently roll my eyes, it’s her feelings.

These two, it’s 1000% an agenda.  I’m sure they do have real feelings about it too but the feelings come from being raised prolife and that the only thing worthwhile is breeding for Jesus.

[Snow Fairy]

Did we see any other Duggar or Duggar in law in that kind od high heels?

Wow 5 pregnant women at the same time. Just...wow 

[FizzyPuff]

Baby number two 🤔. I feel sorry for this child and any other children they have, they are constantly going to tell the child about their miscarried sibling poor things. 

[yogi2014L]

Baby #2 FFS??? Is she serious??

I think it would have been a little less gross/attention seeking to say pregnancy #2 vs baby #2 if they have to mention the miscarriage. Or even just the rainbow after the storm was cute and got the point across. 

I have had 2 early losses but I don't refer to my ( so far only) kid as baby #3. There was not yet a formed child. IDK. Maybe just knowing people who have had still birth/child/infant loss it really just seems insensitive to me. 

[lucy711]

Obviously these two have a pro-life agenda, but I know many women of all political backgrounds who mourn their miscarried babies including referring to them with a number like Lauren does here.  I understand that everyone processes and grieves differently, so they do what is best for them.  I do, however, raise my eyebrow when rainbow babies are called "miracle babies."  There are true miracle babies out there- babies who are born super premature and survive or babies born to women who have been declared infertile.  But if a woman becomes pregnant after one miscarriage, I don't consider it to be a miracle considering how common miscarriages are.  Now that I think about it, almost everyone I know who miscarried went on to have one or more healthy children.

Edited May 20, 2019 by lucy711

[BitterApple]

Aren't early miscarriages fairly common? I'm not trying to make light of anyone's loss, but enough already. Lauren is ridiculous.

[ginger90]

May 20, 2019

Wonderful News from Josiah and Lauren! 

We are so thrilled for Lauren & Josiah expecting! It was very difficult losing their first child in a miscarriage, but now God has blessed them with another child on the way. This year we are going from 12 to 17 grandkids, soon they are going to outnumber our own kids, we are so grateful for each one of them. It’s not easy raising kids in today’s world. Over the years we have asked God for wisdom to help keep our children on the right track and to point each of our family members to a close relationship with God. One of the resources that has been priceless are the messages at https://embassymedia.com/The practical Biblical teachings have inspired us and taught us how to lead our children spiritually, how to have a close marriage relationship, how to resolve conflicts and how to conquer anger. We pray that each one of our descendants will make a positive difference in this world! -Jim Bob & Michelle  

[galaxychaser]

Rolling my eyes so hard. Named it just like Michelle and Jim. Anyway congratulations and now Si can relax for a year until time to impregnate his blood mare Lauren.

Edited May 20, 2019 by galaxychaser

[Angeltoes]

23 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

Aren't early miscarriages fairly common?

So common that a lot of women don't even realize they had a miscarriage.  It just seems like a heavy late period.

[Ohiopirate02]

24 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

Aren't early miscarriages fairly common? I'm not trying to make light of anyone's loss, but enough already. Lauren is ridiculous.

You are not wrong.  What she lost last year was most likely a nonviable embryo/fetus.  Something went wrong and no one is to blame.  While I do feel for women who miscarry a wanted baby, the odds of her loss being brought to term as a healthy baby are extremely rare.   It does sound cruel, but this is the way of nature.  

[xwordfanatik]

How sad that they have something to prove in their tight little fundie world.  I believe that naming an unfortunate miscarriage is going too far.  Privately, of course they may have already named it, yet to post an actual name for it (and yes!  how on earth did they know the gender already?) is weird.  Admittedly, I've never had a miscarriage, unless I mistook a late heavy period for one.  I have one child by choice.  It just seems to me that they had to rush into another pregnancy, to prove they have a "normal" fundie marriage.  Especially with the speculation about Josiah possibly being gay or bisexual.  I hope it works out well, but it's sad that they probably feel that their only purpose is to be baby machines.

[Patricia07]

1 hour ago, BitterApple said:

Aren't early miscarriages fairly common? I'm not trying to make light of anyone's loss, but enough already. Lauren is ridiculous.

When my mother was in her last years, I found out I was a second pregnancy. She had miscarried the first. 

[GeeGolly]

I agree that everyone mourns a lost pregnancy in their own way. IMO it goes too far when it negatively effects any living children, whether born before or after the miscarriage. The yet to be born 1st child is already displaced by a potential human. To me that's unfair. I hope once he or she is born, the baby can be celebrated as a special and unique being and not always in the same breathe as the miscarried potential baby. 

[Vantraveller]

3 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

IG announcement.

The way the word "family" blends into their clothes makes it looks like he's just branded her "Duggar property". Not too far wrong I suppose.

[3 is enough]

I assumed she was pregnant again after the Easter picture in the maternity dress.  The article says "fall" so they probably waited until the second trimester to announce.  I certainly can't fault them for that.  

I know everyone grieves in their own way, and I don't doubt that the miscarriage was very painful for them, but the whole "baby number 2" label just feels off to me.