S22.E06: Week 6

[mostlylurking]

Oh no I don't like those big veneers with unnaturally blindingly white teeth either.  There is a happy medium though.  Everyone has their little picky things, this is mine.  I use a drop of orange essential oil on my teeth while brushing for a week every three months or so and let me tell you my teeth are white (or close to white) but still look natural!  Natural teeth can look pearly (close to) white too.

[huahaha]

1 hour ago, dleighg said:

can someone remind me of "all the pain" that Krystal has gone through (that Kendall was talking about)?

Krystal grew up believing her parents didn't want her. (Dad left and mom was only emotionally available to a parade of boyfriends.) Her brother was also screwed up from the experience and is on the streets.

Krystal definitely snapped over trust and attachment issues, so her story could very well be true.

Edited February 6, 2018 by huahaha

[ljenkins782]

1 hour ago, Sweet-tea said:

I thought she was condescending too, but I dislike Krystal so much that I didn't mind. Kendall is very pretty. 

Lauren was boring but Arie seemed really into her. Maybe their conversation was heavily edited, because I was surprised she got a rose. I think Arie likes the thrill of the chase. Emily was also kind of detached in the beginning. 

I only remember Jenna for her overly dark and extremely arched brows. Distracting. 

If there's anyone who deserves a bit of condescension, it's Krystal. She's been dishing it out to everyone else the entire time, but not surprised that she didn't like getting any in return.

That said, Kendall's practiced therapy-speak was driving me nuts and she seems a little dull. As do Becca K, Sienne, Jacqueline, and especially the non-speaking Lauren. I guess I'm placing my bets on a Tia/Bekah M final 2, he seems most into them. 

Lauren was getting the date edit of death with the silent walking and contributing nothing but "yeah" and "wow."  I guess Arie has his sights set on the fantasy suite date with her, because I didn't think her explanation of her reserve was any better or would get her the rose. "I don't trust guys, I had a bad broken engagement, and my parents' shitty marriage soured me on romance at a young age" is not exactly an appealing set of issues to take on when there are other women ready and waiting to take her spot. 

I felt sorry for her though because those are tough things to deal with in an environment like this and I don't think this show was a good idea for her. 

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Did Krystal gain weight on this show? She looks so puffy. 

I'm guessing the copious amounts of downtime and alcohol are out of character for her. Hard to keep up your "fitness coach" lifestyle when you've got 6 weeks of laying around getting drunk.

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i thought Beckah had great stage presence.  She may be studied and calculating, but she’s confident and presents herself as such.  It’s refreshing to see a young woman as poised as she is.  Hardly any uptalk, and a cheap chic wardrobe.  She even pulls off the Sue Ellen Mischke underwear as outerwear look. 

Agreed. Bekah annoys me, but part of it is probably a bit of envy at her self-possession at such a young age. But her constantly "on" personality is a bit grating at the same time. 

She did look fantastic in the blonde bob wig and the over exaggerated facial expressions fit the show. 

There is no way in hell she gives a damn about Arie though. She's there for the free travel and TV time, she's just playing the game enough to stay there. 

[Lemons]

14 hours ago, Madding crowd said:

Arie is not even embarrassed to be telling someone he is not smart enough for them. Not everyone is a genius but if a guy actually admits to not being smart, it would be a deal breaker for me.

I can’t stand Bekah’s exaggerated facial expressions and the way she vamped down the stairs in her can-can costume. Nothing about her seems genuine. I decided I like Tia the best. I misjudged her because of Raven, but she is pretty cool. 

I also can’t stand the way they shriek like 13 year old girls everywhere they go.  And chubby faced pixie bekah is the worst. She is the most camera aware of them all.  

[Palomar]

16 hours ago, CalamityBoPeep said:

Kendall vs. Krystal.

Deep vs. Shallow.

Knows herself vs. Knows how to pretend to know herself.

Observant vs. Oblivious.

Merciful vs. Catty.

And last but not least:

Kendall wins hands down, because finally... finally... a contestant who knows how to describe a relationship between herself and another person! Kendall wins the Pronoun Game!

She's way too good for Arie.

Well to be fair, Arie DID recognize who Krystal really was and choose Kendall.  Other Bachelors in the past have kept bringing the "Crystal" of their season along so they could at least give her a test drive in the FS.  I'm giving Arie for not going that route.  

[Palomar]

When I think of the remaining girls and who could be the next Bachelorette, so far only Bekka has the personality.  But of course she most likely would be deemed "not ready", although I imagine she would be plenty ready for BIP. Then again, there is drama to come. 

[Madding crowd]

I didn’t have a problem with how Bekah acted on stage-she was supposed to be performing. What annoyed me was when they were trying on outfits and she came down the steps swinging her hips-none if the other women did that.

[Stan39]

14 hours ago, Wandering Snark said:

 

I'm shocked he didn't send that amazing 'six months before I'll give you the time of day' bore.

Apparently, the guy boring Lauren was engaged to is/was an NHL player she grew up with. Hate to stereotype, but she seems like the standard pretty girl growing up so she didn't have to develop a personality.  Kind of explains the meltdown at the end of the episode.  I'm sure she's had guys hitting on her her entire life, telling her she's amazing without really doing anything, and doesn't understand how try at stuff.  But, I'm sure after Arie dumps her she'll go back to Dallas, be super popular from this show, and have guys falling all over her without her having to try again.  This show will probably be the only confusing/challenging time of her life.

[the-grey-lady]

Let's recap Arie's date with Lauren.

"There's no much beauty in this city. And it was so busy today."

Wow, the Bachelor is such a scintillating conversationalist. Be still my heart.

[chocolatine]

6 minutes ago, the-grey-lady said:

"And it was so busy today."

That comment killed me. Who would have thought that Paris, a bustling metropolis and one of the most visited cities in the world, would be busy on any given day?

[Mabinogia]

18 minutes ago, the-grey-lady said:

Let's recap Arie's date with Lauren.

"There's no much beauty in this city. And it was so busy today."

Wow, the Bachelor is such a scintillating conversationalist. Be still my heart.

Thank you for the recap. I think I feel asleep during their date. I would have been heartbroken to have missed that obviously relationship changing moment. HAHAHA

[mostlylurking]

20 minutes ago, the-grey-lady said:

"...it was so busy today."

This made me laugh so hard.  "It was almost insanely busy".  LMAO....what does that even mean????

[nlkm9]

1 hour ago, ljenkins782 said:

If there's anyone who deserves a bit of condescension, it's Krystal. She's been dishing it out to everyone else the entire time, but not surprised that she didn't like getting any in return.

That said, Kendall's practiced therapy-speak was driving me nuts and she seems a little dull. As do Becca K, Sienne, Jacqueline, and especially the non-speaking Lauren. I guess I'm placing my bets on a Tia/Bekah M final 2, he seems most into them. 

Lauren was getting the date edit of death with the silent walking and contributing nothing but "yeah" and "wow."  I guess Arie has his sights set on the fantasy suite date with her, because I didn't think her explanation of her reserve was any better or would get her the rose. "I don't trust guys, I had a bad broken engagement, and my parents' shitty marriage soured me on romance at a young age" is not exactly an appealing set of issues to take on when there are other women ready and waiting to take her spot. 

I felt sorry for her though because those are tough things to deal with in an environment like this and I don't think this show was a good idea for her. 

I'm guessing the copious amounts of downtime and alcohol are out of character for her. Hard to keep up your "fitness coach" lifestyle when you've got 6 weeks of laying around getting drunk.

Agreed. Bekah annoys me, but part of it is probably a bit of envy at her self-possession at such a young age. But her constantly "on" personality is a bit grating at the same time. 

She did look fantastic in the blonde bob wig and the over exaggerated facial expressions fit the show. 

There is no way in hell she gives a damn about Arie though. She's there for the free travel and TV time, she's just playing the game enough to stay there. 

ironically on Brad's season Emily was also detached- so is it the big boobs, the blindingly white choppers, the blond hair, playing hard to get or all of them?? Grrrr lol.

1 hour ago, Palomar said:

Well to be fair, Arie DID recognize who Krystal really was and choose Kendall.  Other Bachelors in the past have kept bringing the "Crystal" of their season along so they could at least give her a test drive in the FS.  I'm giving Arie for not going that route.  

seriously that breathy sighing she does. As bad or worse than vocal fry. I dont know how anyone cant stand to talk with her--she could be a nice person but the voice grates. mmm, sigh,,,mmmm

[ljenkins782]

31 minutes ago, nlkm9 said:

seriously that breathy sighing she does. As bad or worse than vocal fry. I dont know how anyone cant stand to talk with her--she could be a nice person but the voice grates. mmm, sigh,,,mmmm

It's so put on, when she isn't doing the mmm, sigh, mmm thing, she sounds completely normal. It's a creepy affectation that I don't think has the impact she thinks it does (or maybe it works on guys, I don't know. It sounded exhausting to listen to). 

[Kbilly]

I don't fault Arie for the "It was so busy today!" comment because can you imagine having to work so hard all day trying to keep anything going with that dullard Lauren B for Boring? As soon as she became Lauren B for Bummer with her broken engagement tale of woe (weak excuse for being so boring and standoffish) he couldn't possibly let her go. Oh to go through life  skinny and blonde indeed.

Where was Chelsea during the Moulin Rouge dancing? I don't think we saw her in her outfit. Did she refuse to strip?

Speaking of Moulin, Arie loved getting a peak of Becca's butt when she turned.

Krystal is delusional ...if she thought that tube tops paired well with those white grandma pants or the suspendered mime pants. 

Is Jacqueline a dark horse? She's smart and sexy and funny--I liked when she said the date was like getting a pony for Christmas that you have to shoot if you don't learn to ride it well. Per her twitter she sounds fun and she said that she picked the restaurant for the date because it was from her fave movie Gigi. 

Does anyone know where they were on the 2:1? I thought it was the Petit Trianon but then I don't think they had that maze? Dying to know. The serenade on the Seine was so crazy romantic, pity it was wasted on Lauren.

[HappyDancex2]

Krystal seems a fan of the ever so skinny spaghetti strapped tops or in this case.....cotton corset?  I guess she likes to drive home that an imminent wardrobe malfunction will show you the boobage.   She's crafty.   Which leads me to I can't believe she didn't take full opportunity at Moulin to flash Arie all the goods.  Not only do you have to wear a thong but when you bend over in a thong you get to see much more than ahem....butttttttt.   I can see how some women would be uncomfortable in either situation.  I personally wouldn't want to wear a costume piece that was already up someone else's crack but hey that's just me.  LOL

Kendall's blue dress was unfortunate.   She also has a favorite silhouette which is bardot off the shoulder sleeves.   She has a slim build and doesn't seem to dress herself to maximize her assets.  She was also in a shapeless jumpsuit as well.  Ick.  Two hundred thumbs up for outlasting Krystal in France.   Too bad Krystal couldn't see them at the Eiffel Tower as she was hunkered down in the abandoned warehouse across the street LOL.   Producers loved that shot though the window.  Classic

[dleighg]

1 minute ago, HappyDancex2 said:

I can see how some women would be uncomfortable in either situation.

when I was much younger I bought a thong underwear just to see what the fuss was about. I wore it for about 10 seconds. Uncomfortable, indeed!

[saber5055]

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There is no way in hell she gives a damn about Arie though. She's there for the free travel and TV time,

LOL at this. I guess Bekkah and I are "here" for the same reason ... travel porn and tv-wasting time!

I guess people are interested in different things, and some people aren't interested in much of anything *coughlaurencough*. Unless she was just given a crummy edit, I would have been all about looking at each of those little craft/shop booths they were walking by, and wanting to go into Notre Dame, or at least be there when its bells toll. They did have some bags  from shopping, but we never got to see what they bought. Unless I missed that when that one-on-one put me to sleep.

I am impressed that Arie has gotten the big budget for his travel. Which Bach was it who stayed "home" to "explore America"? Fleiss must have a lot riding on Arie.

[jade.black]

The reason I love this season so much is because for the first time since Sean Lowe's season, I am genuinely clueless as to who will win. My best guess at the moment is Becca, as she's the only one I could picture being F1 since the start, but now she's started to fade back a bit too. In fact, three of the women I was sure would go home this week all had roses at the rose ceremony! I like that the winner isn't glaringly obvious for once.

I sometimes have trouble making conversation too, but I felt a lot better after watching Lauren's date which I spent thinking of what could be said in any of those scenarios. The Notre Dame... ask him if he's religious. He mentioned they have cheese wheels at home... ask him if he means the Netherlands and then follow up about his background. Then he mentioned it's her first time in Europe when they were at dinner! What? She should have loads of observations to share! Honestly though, whoever said she may be perfect for Arie because they can just curl up, watch TV, and go to bed every night may be spot on. I also think he's blinded by physical attraction to her and likes the challenge of getting her to open up and reciprocate his feelings.

I like Kendall and actually even loved her after that date. She was so classy, and I do think she was at least somewhat sincere. I'm thrilled she was the person on the 2 on 1 with Krystal because none of the girls would have handled her so well and in a way that caught her so off guard. Krystal was so beautifully pissed off at the response. Go Kendall! Get that kiss at the top of the Eiffel Tower, you deserve it. None of us have to hear Krystal's breathy voice again until TWTA (in which she will unfortunately be the main event). 

Jacqueline has tied Tia as my favorite. She is fun, smart, and witty... I'm now annoyed that the producers showed us none of her up to this episode. Her comment about her date being like getting a pony but one that she'd have to learn to ride by the end of the day or else it would be shot was amazing. I hope she makes it through to hometowns! I'm guessing we'll be stuck with Bekah as well as other Becca and Tia, so I'm trying to figure out who the last spot will go to (unless Arie surprises me and sends annoying Baby Bekah home which would be such a gift).

[MakeMeLaugh]

26 minutes ago, HappyDancex2 said:

Krystal seems a fan of the ever so skinny spaghetti strapped tops or in this case.....cotton corset?  I guess she likes to drive home that an imminent wardrobe malfunction will show you the boobage.   She's crafty.   Which leads me to I can't believe she didn't take full opportunity at Moulin to flash Arie all the goods.  Not only do you have to wear a thong but when you bend over in a thong you get to see much more than ahem....butttttttt.   I can see how some women would be uncomfortable in either situation.  I personally wouldn't want to wear a costume piece that was already up someone else's crack but hey that's just me.  LOL

....

Krystal wasn’t at the Moulin Rouge date, was she? She had the 2 on 1 or whatever later in the episode.

[peachmangosteen]

I am almost ashamed to admit this because you all are panning it so hard, but I loved Krystal's outfit lol.

4 hours ago, mostlylurking said:

I use a drop of orange essential oil on my teeth while brushing for a week every three months or so and let me tell you my teeth are white (or close to white) but still look natural! 

Oh, I'm gonna try this. Thanks for the tip! Do you just mix it in with your toothpaste?

[chocolatine]

3 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

4 hours ago, mostlylurking said:

I use a drop of orange essential oil on my teeth while brushing for a week every three months or so and let me tell you my teeth are white (or close to white) but still look natural!  Natural teeth can look pearly (close to) white too.

Oh, I'm gonna try this. Thanks for the tip! Do you just mix it in with your toothpaste?

Check with your dentist first. No offense to the OP, but this sounds unproven and potentially dangerous.

[calpurnia99]

4 hours ago, mostlylurking said:

Oh no I don't like those big veneers with unnaturally blindingly white teeth either.  There is a happy medium though.  Everyone has their little picky things, this is mine.  I use a drop of orange essential oil on my teeth while brushing for a week every three months or so and let me tell you my teeth are white (or close to white) but still look natural!  Natural teeth can look pearly (close to) white too.

My picky thing is hair extensions that are horribly done.  No one has natural hair that gets thicker and thicker and finally as it is hits your waist it is extrememly thick and has big waves in it.  You know when we look back at 60's hair and 40's hair and it dates the decade? Well the 00's and the 10's is going to be Long hair parted in the middle with it getting thicker and thicker as it gets longer, and also much healthier than the hair on top AND a different color. With big fake white teeth, a spray tan, fake boobs, high high heels - this is not my standard of beauty. Think Sofia Loren as an example to me of real natural beauty, yes she wore make up but she wasn't a carbon copy of every other woman.

y other problem is they are now going to ruin La Toscana for me.  I just hATE that they are going there. My grandmother was born there and I spent a lot of time there before the Yuppies discovered it and everyone was like "I'm going to buy a Villa in Tuscany". Of course Lauren B, first time in Europe, won't appreciate it. 

This Hair is laughable, yet they all have it!

 

Edited February 6, 2018 by calpurnia99

[dleighg]

and they show Pisa in the preview. That is NOT in Tuscany. 

ETA ok I guess it is. But really I think of Tuscany as Florence.

Edited February 6, 2018 by dleighg

[JenE4]

2 hours ago, Mabinogia said:

Thank you for the recap. I think I feel asleep during their date. I would have been heartbroken to have missed that obviously relationship changing moment. HAHAHA

 

2 hours ago, mostlylurking said:

This made me laugh so hard.  "It was almost insanely busy".  LMAO....what does that even mean????

 

2 hours ago, chocolatine said:

That comment killed me. Who would have thought that Paris, a bustling metropolis and one of the most visited cities in the world, would be busy on any given day?

 

2 hours ago, the-grey-lady said:

Let's recap Arie's date with Lauren.

"There's no much beauty in this city. And it was so busy today."

Wow, the Bachelor is such a scintillating conversationalist. Be still my heart.

It seemed to me that they were implying Lauren had agoraphobia the way Arie was so concerned about how she handled/felt being in a crowd of people. But she really wasn’t any more comfortable one-on-one with him either. The way they pointedly showed her NOT giving Arie the slightest bit of verbal or facial/emotional response to him talking to her and physically draggging her all over Paris—and I don’t recall seeing her even smile at all—now I think she might have Asperger’s Syndrome (high functioning Autism Spectrum Disorder). My son is like that. He HATES going anywhere—doesn’t want to be around people. By all accounts he’s friendly and outgoing enough IN school, but will ignore people trying to be friends outside of school. When YOU talk to HIM, he’ll just stare at you completely dead faced and won’t show any kind of acknowledgement. Yet, if HE wants to talk about something he’s interested in, he can engage in a conversation; but then it’s shut down again as soon as he’s done. He can only “smile” if he’s genuinely laughing, otherwise if he TRYS to do it, well, he just can’t mimic “human emotion.” On top of the entire date, they also had that odd clip at the end of her talking to a producer. She didn’t seem like “i’ve had my heart broken so now I’m vulnerable and cautious” but rather “I do not compute how to approach building a relationship.” I mean the fact that it takes 6 months for her to catch on a guy is wooing her also seems like evidence. Now that I know Lauren exists, if I can tell her apart from the other blondes, I’m going to look for spectrum signs. It’s usually more difficult to diagnose in girls because they tend to “pass” more readily as neuro-typical. This is my new armchair diagnosis theory, lol.

[Andromeda]

20 hours ago, Mu Shu said:

Arie, Maxims is in the Art Noveau style.

Yes, the decor is Art Nouveau, but it's a Belle Epoque restaurant. It was THE place to go back during that time period. Maybe Arie said the decor was Belle Epoque? It's SUCH a cool place. 

I thought Bekah was the right pick for the stage show -- most of the others would have been too shy to put on a cute show like she did.

Glad Krystal is gone gone gone. Lauren is soooooo boring. Can't believe she's still there.

[seacliffsal]

I think that Krystal was royally upset that Arie kept Kendall over her.  The thing is, Krystal always "needed" to act like she was in control and it looked like the 'control' was slipping away while she just sat there looking at the Eiffel Tower alone.  It seems like she never fully recovered from Kendall not following Krystal's playbook-"attack me and then I can be the brave victim..."  She did say that she "had no words" after Kendall spoke to her, and I think that's the most honest statement she has made through the whole season.

I could not believe that Lauren had NOTHING to say while sightseeing in Paris for the FIRST time.  "Wow" is such a nothing statement; especially the way she said it without any expression or emotion behind it.  And then they spoke about how 'busy' Paris was-I have been there over 10 times and have never seen it so NOT busy (of course, I always travel in the summer so am there when everyone else is).  I'm now sure that Arie will end up with her (no spoilers involved-it's just so I can write the rest of this sentence) as she makes him look like a Mensa member and an intellectual...

I really like Jacqueline after this date.  She looked stunning in that black dress that she got.  

Arie certainly had the opportunity to check out Jacqueline and the women on the group date.  I have never been to the Moulin Rouge as I have heard from people who have spent a TON of money to go that it is really cheesy, a tourist trap, and that traveling businessmen are their main customers.  

And finally, Bekka, just stop being "on" all the time whenever a camera is aimed in your direction.

[calpurnia99]

1 hour ago, dleighg said:

and they show Pisa in the preview. That is NOT in Tuscany. 

ETA ok I guess it is. But really I think of Tuscany as Florence.

 

I doubt they will be going to Florence as it is wall to wall people all the time. The historical center is tiny and millions of tourists are crammed in there every day.    It might not be as bad in November-February but every other month it is "busy"  I won't go back due to this. It was not like that in the 80's, that was for sure. You could just waltz right into the Uffizi Gallery in 1982. When I was there last, there was a 6 hour wait to get into the museum with a line winding miles around the city! Now you can reserve tickets on line for a time-slot now so you can avoid the wait.  It is a complete zoo and I think trying to film there with their large cast and crew would be problematic.   It is "busy"- much worse than Paris that is a lot bigger.  Also Tuscany is a wine region with lots of charming hill towns, which are on mountain tops with beautiful views of vineyards and cypress trees. I imagine they will go Pisa and one of these smaller hill towns. A well known one is Montepulciano. There is also Greve-in-Chianti where Chianti comes from. 

If I had been on a date in Paris, I would not have been able to shut up! I would have been rambling on and on about how interesting everything was, how different from home, my impressions and things that reminded me of it. I would have been hyper and peppy and enthusiastic. And my first time in Europe I was 19 and I was absolutely FLOORED. I'd been pretty sheltered and never traveled outside my town in Long Island. I never imagined these types of churches and fountains existed. I had my jaw on the ground! Maybe today people see more travel documentaries and know what to expect, but I had no clue and I was flabbergasted by the beauty and grandeur of what I saw.

Edited February 7, 2018 by calpurnia99

[Mu Shu]

6 hours ago, saber5055 said:

I'll take Bekka's real teeth (all teeth are naturally "yellow") over those big veneers that turned Emily's teeth into protruding buckteeth. Veneers she was always running her tongue over. Any whiter-than-white teeth have been surgically altered, sort of like those bigger-than-big boobs so popular on this show. Bekka doesn't have those, either.

I don’t see yellow, I see normal white, pretty teeth. She also has freckles.  Damnit, she’s adorable.  

But yes, those overly white coffin teeth look awful to me.  

[Mu Shu]

1 hour ago, Andromeda said:

Yes, the decor is Art Nouveau, but it's a Belle Epoque restaurant. It was THE place to go back during that time period. Maybe Arie said the decor was Belle Epoque? It's SUCH a cool place. 

I thought Bekah was the right pick for the stage show -- most of the others would have been too shy to put on a cute show like she did.

Glad Krystal is gone gone gone. Lauren is soooooo boring. Can't believe she's still there.

Belle Époque was the period, and Noveau was the style, but they could be interchangeable.  I just recall him wondering what the style was.  He just irks me and I want to pick on him.   Because I think he’s a dumbass, and I’m anything but an intellectual.  How the very intelligent ladies (and there are at least four) talk to this doofus without yawning in his possum face is restraint on their part.

its a shame that they got such an attractive and intelligent bunch, which is wasted on him.  Well, except Lauren bland and boring.  She’s dumber than a bag of hair.  

[bosawks]

Trying to have a conversation with Arie seems like it would be almost physically painful.

[Lamb18]

Paris! yay! Seeing familiar landmarks like Les Invalides, Eiffel Tower, etc.  Ile de la Cite, Notre Dame.

Blah blah blah Krystal talks - she sounds kind of like grownups talking on Charlie Brown shows.  Ladies, it's not a gondola, it's just a little motor boat. It probably smells like diesel. The boat you're on is much nicer. And Krystal, shut up! Wah wah wah, your voice goes on.  Now going downstream on the Seine past la Petite Statue de la Liberte. Whoa, guess they were going upstream after all, fast ride from the Eiffel Tower to the Notre Dame (they aren't that close to each other). OK, this is the market on Ile de la Cite, I think. Close to police headquarters. Now, they're really going all over the place fast - from Notre Dame to Jardin du Luxembourg - that's kind of a hike, too. Anyhow where they're at is not by Notre Dame. This shows they spend a lot more time together than it seems on these dates. Now for their evening date it looks like they're on rue de Rivoli, down by the Louvre and Tuileries.

That's a sad story from Arie. I wonder if his girlfriend felt really alone. I wonder if some of these women get nominated by friends or family because it seems like some are coming off of a relationship that ended badly.

Great, the Moulin Rouge coming up. I've been up to Montmartre, nice area of town, some parts are very touristy.  There's a little vineyard there and one of the few spots you can see detached houses. OK, here they are!  I like Jenna's attitude: "I know I like stupid, but I don't care! I love this so much I'm freaking out!" Becca looks good in her outfit - red's a good color for her. Bekah's not too bad. Poor Jenna in the pink.

The women look so excited to see Bekah and Arie on stage. I have to say Bekah looks awfully cute as a blonde.

Poor Kendall, stuck with Krystal gloating about the 2 on 1. Jacqueline, out of politeness, hides her glee at having a one on one.  Well, they're at some chateau out in the country. I thought maybe they were on their way to Versailles but I guess it would be hard to rent that for an episode.

I hope he's going to dump Krystal! Crossing fingers! Arie makes some direct accusations and Krystal makes some blah blah crap about challenges and coming together. She's kind of delusional about the color and texture and depth of their relationship. Blah blah blah about the rose in Ft. Lauderdale - it was a rose he had to give to her. Go Kendall, go!! I hope you get the rose!  Ooo, Krystal, just gripping that knife in Kendall's back!  Seeing the two side by side, Kendall is so much prettier.

Kendall for the win - she said "Arie's and my connection!"  - TWICE!! Whoa, Kendall for the Bachelorette! She knows how to give it back to Krystal - that was one of the most awesome things I've seen on this show! Huh, it was 9:00 during the dinner part of the two on one.

HA HA HA HA!  So Krystal is stranded in a fancy restaurant across from the river from the Eiffel Tower! Pop! the champagne flows! I agree with Jacqueline about when men are hot, knowing about things and doing them and talking about them. I wonder if they are on rue St-Honore now. Or Rue Montaigne, there's a lot of designer shops there. The street's not wide enough to be the Champs-Elysees. Yes, I saw the street sign for rue Saint-Honore.  Question: if Jacqueline is going for a PhD, why is she on this show?

Is that Bekah singing at the very end??

Usually these episodes aren't in places I've been to, so it was nice to see a place I'm familiar with.

[Meowwww]

5 hours ago, the-grey-lady said:

Let's recap Arie's date with Lauren.

"There's no much beauty in this city. And it was so busy today."

Wow, the Bachelor is such a scintillating conversationalist. Be still my heart.

Hubby and I went to Paris for the first time in September 2016.  There were no bland “wow”s or walking around with no interest.  We were excited to see the historic city and all it had to offer....and were SO appreciative. 

So bland Lauren and Arie walking around not talking or appreciating, like greedy entitled people, made my blood boil.  

[sasha206]

On 2/5/2018 at 10:30 PM, betha said:

AmI the only one who was a bit turned off by Kendall too? She *was* condescending to Krystal, and the thing where she scooted over on the bench, put her hand on her arm, and said “I have empathy for you” reeked of Taylor.

Amen.  It was cringeworthy how insincere Kendall came off to me during that interchange.  

That said, it was so so great to see Kendall get the rose.  Krystal really thinks she's something else, doesn't she?  i'm surprised she doesn't style herself as Marilyn Monroe because that breathy baby doll voice is so Marilyn.  As if she studied every movie she ever made.  

[yorklee2]

I liked that they showed the conversation Lauren was having with the producer at the end. I had asked in a earlier post if she was supposed to be the next villain because it was obvious some of the other women could hear what she was saying and it didn't look like it was going over to good. The looks on their faces were like, "can you believe she's complaining after being in Paris and then just being told she's going to Tuscany?!?!" And rightly so. 

I wish the show would do this more often. At least it was a little something new. This show needs to shake it up a little anyway. Besides the fact that Arie is a dullard I think that's one reason so many are getting bored (or it is for me anyway). Same old, same old with different faces. It doesn't have to be anything drastic but even small changes can make you take notice. I know I was, "wait, what I've never seen them show a contestant having a conversation after the final rose". I've missed some seasons so it may have been done before but that was new to me.

[backformore]

10 hours ago, nlkm9 said:

seriously that breathy sighing she does. As bad or worse than vocal fry. I dont know how anyone cant stand to talk with her--she could be a nice person but the voice grates. mmm, sigh,,,mmmm

Yeah, it made me wonder if she ever worked on one of those sex-talk phone services.  

[Superpole2000]

I would pick Jacqueline. Sign me up for the slightly neurotic, self-aware, clever, witty, interesting woman. She's a real catch, and I hope she ends up with someone more mentally stimulating than Arie. If that has to be me then, fine. I'm willing to go on a 2-on-1 against Arie just to keep her from slumming it with anyone who says, "Let's do a cheers!"

[dleighg]

7 hours ago, Lamb18 said:

Question: if Jacqueline is going for a PhD, why is she on this show?

What's she going for a PhD in?

[Mu Shu]

2 hours ago, Superpole2000 said:

I would pick Jacqueline. Sign me up for the slightly neurotic, self-aware, clever, witty, interesting woman. She's a real catch, and I hope she ends up with someone more mentally stimulating than Arie. If that has to be me then, fine. I'm willing to go on a 2-on-1 against Arie just to keep her from slumming it with anyone who says, "Let's do a cheers!"

Ugh, he said let’s do a cheers.  He’s too dumb and immature for baby Beckah.  

I noticed he couldn’t keep his hands off Krystal.  I think she’s very attractive, but her hair is a bit ratchet.  He kept touching it, yet Jacqueline has the most glorious, touchable hair, and he kept his grubby paws off her.  Well, except for those grotesque face abusing kisses. 

He is such a beta male.  He puts himself down as being uneducated, as a non manly man for having coffee with cream and sugar instead of black,  and looked like a grub worm in the sawgrass.  It’s like watching fucking plastic snowman Evan as the bachelor.  I thought this schlub was supposed to be smooth and cosmopolitan?  My god, bob was gross after he lost weight and showed himself as a man ho, but he was confident about his gross ass.  Arie is far too insecure to be the lead.  

[mostlylurking]

13 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

Oh, I'm gonna try this. Thanks for the tip! Do you just mix it in with your toothpaste?

Yes I just mix a drop with my toothpaste once a day for one week.  I do it maybe every three months or so.

 

13 hours ago, chocolatine said:

Check with your dentist first. No offense to the OP, but this sounds unproven and potentially dangerous.

No offense taken.  I did ask my dentist about it actually and she said the worse that could happen is that I would see no difference.  She did say don't do it for an extended period of time because citrus can strip tooth enamel (even drinking lemon water or tea can do this), which is why I use it sparingly.  She even said baking powder could be used sparingly.  Much safer than whitening products in my opinion!  Works great for me!

Edited February 7, 2018 by mostlylurking

[Mabinogia]

4 hours ago, dleighg said:

11 hours ago, Lamb18 said:

Question: if Jacqueline is going for a PhD, why is she on this show?

What's she going for a PhD in?

If it's psychology maybe this show is a research project.

[Jax7917]

2 hours ago, Mu Shu said:

 

He is such a beta male.  He puts himself down as being uneducated, as a non manly man for having coffee with cream and sugar instead of black,  and looked like a grub worm in the sawgrass.  It’s like watching fucking plastic snowman Evan as the bachelor.  I thought this schlub was supposed to be smooth and cosmopolitan?  My god, bob was gross after he lost weight and showed himself as a man ho, but he was confident about his gross ass.  Arie is far too insecure to be the lead.  

Arie is FAR from being insecure. He says the things he says to sound adorable and sound humble, but he is so in love with himself.

[peachmangosteen]

12 hours ago, Lamb18 said:

Is that Bekah singing at the very end??

I loled so hard at this!

[JudyObscure]

13 hours ago, Lamb18 said:

That's a sad story from Arie. I wonder if his girlfriend felt really alone. I wonder if some of these women get nominated by friends or family because it seems like some are coming off of a relationship that ended badly.

My guess is she was probably getting tired of Arie  when she got pregnant and decided she needed to try and make it work.  After the miscarriage she realized she could get free.

[ByTor]

13 hours ago, Meowwww said:

So bland Lauren and Arie walking around not talking or appreciating, like greedy entitled people, made my blood boil.

I didn't see greedy or entitled (I'm not saying they're not greedy and entitled, I just didn't see it in that moment)...what I did see was two socially awkward dullards .

5 minutes ago, JudyObscure said:

My guess is she was probably getting tired of Arie  when she got pregnant and decided she needed to try and make it work.  After the miscarriage she realized she could get free.

Apologies in advance if this sounds terrible, but I have a suspicion that this pregnancy didn't end in a miscarriage.

[nlkm9]

6 hours ago, Mu Shu said:

Ugh, he said let’s do a cheers.  He’s too dumb and immature for baby Beckah.  

I noticed he couldn’t keep his hands off Krystal.  I think she’s very attractive, but her hair is a bit ratchet.  He kept touching it, yet Jacqueline has the most glorious, touchable hair, and he kept his grubby paws off her.  Well, except for those grotesque face abusing kisses. 

He is such a beta male.  He puts himself down as being uneducated, as a non manly man for having coffee with cream and sugar instead of black,  and looked like a grub worm in the sawgrass.  It’s like watching fucking plastic snowman Evan as the bachelor.  I thought this schlub was supposed to be smooth and cosmopolitan?  My god, bob was gross after he lost weight and showed himself as a man ho, but he was confident about his gross ass.  Arie is far too insecure to be the lead.  

I may be in the minority and old fashioned, but I think if you know you are sending someone home you should not be making out with them. I still to this day remember this random moment on Jessie Palmers season where all of a sudden he starts full on making out with a girl--I think her name was suzy? it came out of nowhere and then she was sent home that nite? Its just seemed so gross that he had all of those girls there he could make out with on a whim. but lol I still watch!!

e puts himself down as being uneducated, as a non manly man for having coffee with cream and sugar instead of black,  and looked like a grub worm in the sawgrass.  It’s like watching fucking plastic snowman Evan as the bachelor.  I thought this schlub was supposed to be smooth and cosmopolitan?  My god, bob was gross after he lost weight and showed himself as a man ho, but he was confident about his gross ass.  Arie is far too insecure to be the lead.  

 

who is plastic snowman evan?

[dleighg]

5 minutes ago, nlkm9 said:

who is plastic snowman evan?

Evan was the guy who ran a male ED clinic, and was kind of, non-sexy. He hooked up (and married, I think) Carly after B in Paradise.

[sauce62]

I'm not really seeing Lauren's beauty. She was probably so excruciatingly dull because she was in pain trying to walk in those shoes. And Arie was trying to get some food out of his teeth during their stroll. Not a good look when you're being filmed Arie.

And word to those who pointed out Arie's misuse of the word "cheers". It's not a verb people!!!

Edited February 7, 2018 by sauce62

[ByTor]

22 minutes ago, sauce62 said:

And word to those who pointed out Arie's misuse of the word "cheers". It's not a verb people!!!

Maybe I'm in the minority, but although it's annoying, I'll take "Let's do a cheers" over "I can't with" any day :)  I mean, how would a person go about "withing" if they could with?

Edited February 7, 2018 by ByTor

[ljenkins782]

20 hours ago, saber5055 said:

I am impressed that Arie has gotten the big budget for his travel. Which Bach was it who stayed "home" to "explore America"? Fleiss must have a lot riding on Arie.

That would be Chris Soules and "explore America" was code for "too many DUIs to be allowed to leave the country."  That being said, I do think Arie's getting better travel destinations than some of the more recent Bachs. 

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I'm not really seeing Lauren's beauty. She was probably so excruciatingly dull because she was in pain trying to walk in those shoes. And Arie was trying to get some food out of his teeth during their stroll. Not a good look when you're being filmed Arie.

I don't think she's that pretty either. Maybe in a room of average looking people, she would stand out, but there are some very striking women in that house and she looks fairly plain by comparison.