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Everyone has to take classes outside of their major and interests, that's part of every college curriculum. In fact, same goes for high school, where she presumably had to pass her classes to even get to college. It's not like studying something outside of fashion is completely foreign. And no, it's not a very mature decision to waste thousands of dollars that has already been paid for a class just because it's not coming as easy as you thought or you didn't like it as much as you thought. Adults don't get to quit their jobs or work only on projects that they enjoy, only someone not mature enough to know how the real world works would expect that they only have to put effort into the things that they like to do. Nor is it excusable to cheat just because you need a passing grade in something. She had the option to study, she didn't and if an incomplete for the year was the consequence, so be it. All of the above DOES make her a bad student. Again, not unusual for people to struggle early in college, but it just seems so odd to insist that she's a great student in the face of so much evidence against it.

I don't see any evidence of her being a great student in college. She wound up in a weird midnight class due to missing registration, she had to take Adderall to get a paper done at the very last minute, cheated on an exam and nearly got herself expelled, and needlessly dropped a class at a very late date. There was no pressing need to drop that class past the drop/add stage, she didn't have to be divinely inspired for each project, she just had to complete the assignments, finish out the class, and then take her different path in the next semester. Not that it makes her a bad person or even an unusual one, everyone makes mistakes as they try to find their way early on in college. It's a tv show so I expect the focus to be more on the social aspects since watching someone go to class isn't terribly interesting, but nothing in the show suggests that she's a great student thus far in college. Was she? I don't know that picking out clothes for your friends' Instagram pics really counts as "working as a stylist." Nor did she seem to be all that successful at it. The Teen Vogue internship was a potentially huge stepping stone, but she biffed that one too.

This made me laugh, but it has a ring of truth to it. Spare the young women from a role model like Hannah, sending a message that a strong woman is one who's lecturing and controlling with all the men in her life, but sobs like a three year old if one of them says something critical back to her. Hannah's free to be anyway she wants to be but so are the men. I have no doubt that's what she's hoping for. I can already picture the softballs Chris Harrison is going to lob at her so she can proclaim herself a strong (or shhtrong-uh, as she pronounces it), liberated woman, blah blah blah and the audience will be cued to applaud wildly.

Yeah, based on her conversations with Colton, it makes perfect sense that Luke would think he and Hannah are on the exact same page. He's not a virgin, but regrets that he's not and according to Colton's season-era Hannah, she had the same regrets. It's not a leap for him to think that they could get together and wait for marriage even if they aren't technical virgins. There was a smash cut edit in that scene, I don't think Luke was even still in the room when Garret wore the meat glasses. The shots of him staring angrily into space seemed to be all the same shot over and over again. The entire scene of Luke vs Garrett seemed like even more bad community theater. Luke just doesn't come across like an actual person, his rehearsed lines and stupid bologna stunt are so cringeworthy and fake-seeming. He did try very hard to be convincing, but it always appeared that you could have plugged literally any woman on earth into that role and his demeanor wasn't going to change an iota. I never saw any personal chemistry between Mike and Hannah, just an affable guy who could probably make a convincing show of liking anyone for the sake of making it far on the show and from her side, he was a nice guy that was fun to hang out with, so she kept him around until it got down to the really serious contenders. LOL. I can't honestly remember Connor's voice at the moment, but it seems that a lot of people noticed it, so it must have been significant. He seems very sweet and a little fragile, he'll make a nice boyfriend for somebody as long as he veers away from the reality tv/Instagram influencer life. Tyler, OTOH, has my vote as the most likely to take a deep dive into the reality TV "fame" world. I doubt he had any trouble getting girls before, but he's going to be up to his ears now. I don't see Hannah picking him after this episode and I don't see him really giving a shit. He's gotten about all he can get out of this and there's no way he was ready to get married. IMO, Jed is absolutely not feeling real feelings. The omnipresent guitar tells me all I need to know about his intentions on this show. I did laugh when the guys were relieved that he didn't take his guitar on the date. I was relieved too, but for a different reason. I can go several lifetimes before hearing Jed's flat, nasal "singing" again. If I had to dig up a "Right Reasons" choice for F1, it'd be Peter. He seems sweet and he does appear to be genuinely into her. I liked him a little more this episode because he showed a glimmer of an edge (when talking to Luke), instead of the marshmallow soft, perma-smiley guy.

For me, I'm 100% wrong reasons. The 1-1 dates bore me to tears, I always look forward to the return to the house so the drama can kick back up again. It's just not that interesting to me to watch someone's love story unfold, but it's very interesting to me how this unnatural dynamic causes tension and how people respond to it. But it gets boring when it's one person sucking up all the air in the room. And when that one person has one line that he can't stop repeating (anyone using "Stay in your lane/our lanes" as a drinking game would be hospitalized by the end of the show), it's especially dull. I'm finding it hard to identify who's going to be there at the end, because I honestly don't think it'll be Luke. It's an extreme rarity that the over-the-top villain wins, but they can sometimes hang on as long as F4, so I'm not totally shocked that he's still there, but I'm not sure who I think will be in the finals because no one else is getting enough air time to tell.

Abuse is okay as long as the victim is strong enough for it to not have an effect on them? I disagree. It's like saying shooting someone is okay if they're wearing a bulletproof vest. I don't think that was the OP's point. Gaslighting is an intentional act and it reads to me like the OP questioning whether Luke is really doing it. Also, I don't think Hannah is necessarily questioning her sanity in terms of what he says vs what she hears, I think she's confused by why she still likes this guy. It can be hard to let go of an initial attraction once you find out the person isn't what you thought/hoped they'd be. I'm not sure where my feelings fall, a lot of the scenes involving Luke seem like a really badly acted play. He appears to be projecting to the back row, which always sets off my fakeness meter.

He looked straight out of some 1950s movie in the scene, between the hair, the dancing, the ridiculous outfit. He actually could be an actor (looks alone), I could totally see him playing the bully best friend of the male star (you know the one, the guy who's always egging the main character on to be a bigger jerk, the characters Paul Walker used to play back in the 90s.) He's super hot, but nowhere near interested in marriage. He's got many years of sockless, tight-panted girl chasing ahead of him and he's clearly good at it. LOL, I noticed that giant patch of backne too. My main thought about the whole naked bungee jumping is that it was cold enough to be snowing, if I were him, I'd be more worried about the shrinkage factor than the drop from the plane. Probably not the way you want a woman to first see your stuff... Jed is just walking secondhand embarrassment at this point. I've been baffled from the start about his choice of career path, the group date song from the first episode was so incredibly off-key and whiny. So every time he pulls the guitar out, I just want to cover my face and peek through my fingers. LOL, "hardly" seems generous in this case. I'm not actually sure who is who and one of them definitely had no speaking parts until tonight. Could that have been a more suspense-free final rose? Hmmm, will it be Luke, the monster who ate the show OR two completely invisible, heretofore unnamed guys? Which will she choose... This made me laugh too hard. Whoever they are, they're going to have an uphill battle becoming a "social media influencer" with the complete lack of face time on the show. You know how they often do interviews with the villain of the season to discuss how they felt watching the show? Do they ever do interviews with people like this? "So, as you watched the show back, were you surprised that you never saw your face or heard your voice or heard your name spoken aloud in any way? After filming a show for 6 weeks, were you surprised that you weren't actually on TV?" His super white teeth always cheesing out of his round, somewhat feminine baby face are very distracting. I can agree with her that he seems like the kind of guy who'd make a good dad, but otherwise, he's a little goofy. Also, he looks too much like the guy who played Jamie from Small Wonder and I couldn't stand that kid, lol.

It also looked like Hannah had put on a few pounds in the intervening time frame. Her face looked noticeably rounder in the interview portion vs the show. I can't remember the details, did it seem directly tied to Fantasy Suites or is it a conversation that might have happened before that point? If it's the latter, maybe it happens this week and they didn't feel the need to keep Luke's part under wraps anymore? Or maybe they figure that the audience has already guessed who it will be based on everything that's already happened this season. I think the useless things she was talking about was all the talking in circles about how awful Luke is. When she was with Garrett, you could see her face just drop as soon as he brought him up. Agreed. But it also seems like Hannah just wants what she wants and is upset that the guys aren't correctly guessing what those things are. She appears to have a specific vision of what she wants to do/discuss/share at any given time and when things don't go to script, she gets annoyed. She should really try to enjoy this rare experience of being completely in control of everything because if she acted this way IRL, every one of these guys would run the other way. MTE! And what was their situation that she had to bring up to Luke to get answers on? I feel like we missed something pretty big if it's being talked about secretly as part of her weird, obsessed investigation. I wanted to know that too. These alleged guys who are supposedly there but haven't gotten any screen time are apparently involved in something big enough that Hannah's asking about it, but they don't show it? The commitment the editors have to making some contestants utterly invisible is astounding to me. It feels like it must be intentional.

Ha, that was exactly how I felt about the Philadelphia season. I was obsessed with the show in the early days and couldn't wait for them to come to town, but by the time they did, I was over the show. And that season sucked royally. I would have liked to see that too. Our political beliefs don't align at all, but she's an engaging personality and I think would have been a better representative of that point of view than Elisabeth Hasselbeck or Megan McCain. That wasn't the entire point at the start. It was really about how people would respond to the conditions of being crammed together and videoed 24/7. I can understand why people in the performance space were drawn to the idea, but from the casting point of view, they weren't looking for entertainment hopefuls. I really don't think they left a lot of drunken debauchery on the cutting room floor in the early seasons, those people just had a little more going on than getting drunk and hooking up. They showed them drinking and there were hookups, but it wasn't an every night, all they ever did kind of thing.

It wasn't a group date, but I could swear there was a one-on-one escape room date. I want to say it was on Chris Soules' season, which is funny because that guy was a world class dolt. The spelling bee was classic and yes, Eric's attempt at "facade" was the first thing that sprang to mind. That was so dumb, it almost circled back around to genius. I'm blanking on who Peter is. Is he the guy with what looks to be rapidly thinning hair who's always wrapping himself around Hannah? Not quite on board with that guy, but he hasn't made enough of an impression to really tell.

That was how it looked to me as well. I actually do think the ball was with one of them, but the hit was out of nowhere. Picking him and body-slamming him to the ground was unnecessary and Luke P seems to have blocked it out of his mind with his "maybe my knee hit him" bullshit. Unfortunately for Luke S, Hannah could not be any less into him. I'm not even sure how he's still here. Her body language in their 1-1 conversation scenes was like she was talking to a person who'd just run over her dog or something. And in fairness, he IS kind of a wet noodle. His attempt to try to convince her that he "liked" her was just so flat. Honestly, that's the best case scenario then. He was never going to be a standout on the show and he's definitely not going to win it, so if this brings him a little bit of attention, good for him. I've got to hand it to Luke P for coming up with that one in his "the best defense is a good offense" attempt to get ahead of anything Luke S or the other guys might say. Physical violence? Meh, she spent the whole date screaming for blood, sweat, and tears. Daring to not moon around the house 24 hours a day, waxing poetic about Hannah? Off with his head! That was the very best thing he could have told her to get her against Luke S before he ever said a word. I had the same feeling. I mean, there's nothing else he could really have done in the context of this show, but all I could think was that if she'd acted this way on a date IRL, he'd be bailing out and on a dating app looking for another hookup before the car door even closed. So it was hard to take all the "I want you at your highs and I want you at your lows" seriously. But he was certainly smooth enough about it. My general impression of Hannah is that she puts on a fun front, but that she's probably on an emotional rollercoaster most of the time IRL. Yeah, I can't get on the Mike train because his interactions with Hannah seem very superficial and practiced, it definitely has more of an "I want to win this show" vibe than a vibe of either one of them actually being that into each other. Even though so much of the show is contrived, it does show through when people are genuinely into each other and I'm not seeing that here. Mike seems most animated and like he's enjoying himself the most when he's in the middle of some kind of drama among the guys. I'm still liking my old dad Grant even though his near invisible edit has me thinking he's not long for this show. He was the first to pick up his drink and walk away from the Luke vs Luke pile-on.

Ha, I love that I'd already completely forgotten Whaboom, when he tried so damn hard to make himself memorable. I'm also blanking on his sworn enemy from that season, who was also a major cheeseball. I wonder if these people do their schtick during casting or if they wait until they make it on to start hamming it up. If the casting people see some of these lame personas and really think the audience will connect with them, they're in the wrong field.

I was watching on Hulu without any commercials and I STILL rewound just to make sure I hadn't zoned out and missed something. Also, I didn't know the name of the guy she'd just been on the date with (turned out to be Connor), so I thought the guy who was sent home was him at first. She talked about having fun on their date so I just assumed it was that guy and then was confused when he turned back up at the house. Overall, it was a really oddly edited episode. John Paul Jones is blonde and is one of the few who looks different enough from the crowd to immediately pick out. There is a huge mass of poofy-haired brunettes who blend together for me, along with several guys we literally only see during rose ceremonies. She calls those names and faces pop up that I can't recall even seeing in the background of house or group date scenes. I know this happens every season, but it almost seems like they must do it on purpose, otherwise how do you manage to get all this footage of a group of people that never, ever includes a handful of them. Do they hang out alone in their rooms or what?

That whole scene took me back to Kelsey and Ashley I in the desert together with Kelsey staring daggers at Ashley. Good times... If Hannah had actually been into Jonathan, I think his power move would have gone over better. But based on that screamingly awkward deleted scenes video posted above, that relationship was dead in the water. That was painful to watch. This entire episode was weird. There were so many times where I rewound thinking that I had to have missed something, but no. The revelation that Tyler G was gone was so muted and especially Hannah's hospitalization was extremely underplayed. This show loves nothing more than to take a dramatic clip of someone in the hospital and use it in every (misleading) preview, but they never even led into the scene, it was just a sudden cut to Hannah in the hospital. Weird. I had, and still have, no idea what Cam was talking about. I agree that Mike was a bit shady in the way he presented the info, but I don't think he was wrong about the motivation. LOL (at the letters part, not the baby part). Besides the general weirdness of goodbye letters, didn't most of those guys hate Cam? I also wasn't quite following how Mike not being there for his gf resulted in the loss of their baby. The loss of the relationship, yes, but not the baby. It also seemed like a tricky story to tell someone at this stage of a relationship, it speaks to unresolved emotions from a previous one and if Hannah's got so many choices, I don't see her taking that road. I don't know if I see Alec Baldwin, but he does look like someone, and it drives me bananas that I can't place who it is. He's also got a jowly thing starting that makes him look like a beer drinking dad. Also, some of these guys, like the guy whose date was just him laying in bed with Hannah, look like they're about 15, so he looks extra old by comparison. It's just laughable when they talk about engagement and marriage and then have guys that look like high schoolers. I do too. He's got this affable way about him, like he's light-hearted and fun most of the time.

That's so gross. Because even if the audience at home is just seeing the poster, the entire staff, camera crew, and the (often catty) other contestants are seeing the full show and it's probably on camera somewhere. That should never be a required activity. I don't remember the incident above, but I do remember the photo shoot from just a few seasons ago where most were given full outfits, but one girl just got bikini bottoms and had to be the only one to go topless. It seems especially weird when they exploit the women to such a degree because the audience for this show is so heavily female, it doesn't make sense to think T&A would be such a draw for this demographic. (For the record, I personally hate it when they do the same to men, but I can sort of understand how they'd think it would appeal to the audience in a Magic Mike/Chippendales sort of way.) In general, I don't usually find the group dates themselves interesting, it's usually the aftermath that's got the most drama. Who didn't get a rose when they thought they would, who crossed the line during the activity, who gets more time with the lead. I'd love to see less time spent on the actual dates and more time devoted to what comes afterward.