S15.E13: An Unconventional Trip

[Archery]

18 hours ago, Calamity Jane said:

And - yet another unconventional materials challenge??  Do the sponsors donate those materials, so it's cheaper, and that's why they keep doing it?  Very odd.  

It can't be cheaper when you factor in that they had to ship the heavy containers full of crap from TX to NY.  So sick of unconventional materials challenges.  Even the avant-garde one was a UMC. Whatever happened to the "wow us with an amazing red carpet look" challenge of the Michael Costello variety? And I'm doubly sick of the "added garment in the middle of the challenge" challenge, with the predictable result that the second look is boring, safe, and unimaginative. 

 

4 hours ago, lordonia said:

I am not picking on Laurence's model because obviously she is super skinny. But even a tiny stomach pooch is noticeable in a body-hugging sheath, so wear some Spanx, please. The profile photo in the recap shows the problem.

Seriously. It's like that dress snuck off-stage, came to my house, stole some of my paunch, and glued it onto the model just to spite her. 

[Mabinogia]

33 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

If you end up buying clothing from Laurence, you know what you're getting--clean lined sexy clothes.

Thing is, if I were to buy something from any of these people, it would most likely be Laurence, but that doesn't necessarily make her a good contestant for this show.

I wouldn't wear most of these peoples clothes if they were given to me for free.

I'm watching now and OMG Erin is just painful to look at. From the severe hairstyle with the dark ass roots to the stupid hipster glasses and the oh so trendy gap in her teeth to whatever the fuck she is trying to pass off as clothing. OMG that woman cannot dress herself. Why would I want her to dress me?

Edited December 9, 2016 by Mabinogia

[izabella]

56 minutes ago, Archery said:

Seriously. It's like that dress snuck off-stage, came to my house, stole some of my paunch, and glued it onto the model just to spite her. 

Lol! 

I think it was the fabric of Laurence's dress that made it so unflattering and clingy in all the wrong places.  As we've learned, challenges are won or lost at Mood.

[Jobiska]

20 hours ago, NorthstarATL said:

Meal worms? Erin's model was a real sport.

Meal worms shmeal worms, she was the picture-book definition of "good sport" when Erin burned her with the glue gun and she just kind of gulped and said that was really hot.  And Erin, I think, sort of apologized, but I would have been all over the poor girl, running to find an ice cube or something, no matter how little time I had left...I lost most of whatever respect I had left for Erin with her lackluster response.

15 hours ago, candall said:

Heidi, that was mustard--not "baby poop"--and you think it's a hard color to wear because it doesn't flatter your own particular skin tone palette. 

In fact, I believe the guest judge (the actor, not Georgina Chapman) said she'd wear it and I immediately thought how nice it would look on her skin tone.  Then again, she said she'd wear several of the looks up there...is her closet empty or something?  Hee.

My favorite parts of the episode:

1) The gorgeous gray cat at the feed store.  Blink and you missed it, but we ailurophiles chez Jobiska never miss a cat.
2) Swatch, of course.
3) Roberi's dance of joy after his win, jumping on the table, and then singing "I'm going Fashion Week, I'm going Fashion Week."  He's so cute.  
4) Cornelius not making it through--he grew on me personality-wise, but he's just not mature enough yet as a designer.
 

[ratgirlagogo]

It seemed so bizarre to me that Roberi went to all that work with that ugly macrame piece - if I hadn't seen him constructing it I would have just assumed he grabbed a couple of ugly macrame pot hangers off the shelf of the farm store or the BBQ place.

I kind of love the idea of the gold-painted mealworms but as it stood nobody could even see them in the design.  I would have been interested to see what Erin could have done with a shit-ton of gold painted mealworms.

Keeping with that I liked Laurence's bird seed dress but not the other one (agreed with Heidi about the baby poop color).

9 minutes ago, Jobiska said:

1) The gorgeous gray cat at the feed store.  Blink and you missed it, but we ailurophiles chez Jobiska never miss a cat.
2) Swatch, of course.

But of course!

[Ketzel]

Georgina Chapman must have a new contract with PR - they seem to have dropped her obligatory complimentary designation. She wasn't introduced as "The Beautiful" this time!

Edited December 10, 2016 by Ketzel

[millennium]

21 hours ago, Calamity Jane said:

And - yet another unconventional materials challenge??  Do the sponsors donate those materials, so it's cheaper, and that's why they keep doing it?  Very odd.  

 

Two unconventional materials challenges in a row.   My opinion?  A blatant attempt to keep Erin in the game.  She has choked on almost every other kind of challenge.   She sucks.  Her fashion sense is rivaled only by her make-up skills.  Gluing worms to guitar picks befits her level of talent, IMHO.

10 minutes ago, Ketzel said:

Georgina Chapman must have a new contract with PR - they seem to have dropped her obligatory complimentary designation. She wasn't introduced as "The Beautiful" this time!

They dropped that midway through the last All-Stars.   It was very conspicuous when they did, because "The Beautiful" always seemed to be part of her name.

2 hours ago, Mabinogia said:

Thing is, if I were to buy something from any of these people, it would most likely be Laurence, but that doesn't necessarily make her a good contestant for this show.

I wouldn't wear most of these peoples clothes if they were given to me for free.

I'm watching now and OMG Erin is just painful to look at. From the severe hairstyle with the dark ass roots to the stupid hipster glasses and the oh so trendy gap in her teeth to whatever the fuck she is trying to pass off as clothing. OMG that woman cannot dress herself. Why would I want her to dress me?

What?   Her Daisy Dukes didn't win you over?   LOL.

[millennium]

5 hours ago, izabella said:

Oh, no!  Project Runway Juniors are MUCH better than these designers!  Shockingly better.

 

No lie.   The kids from last season would still be standing even as Erin and the rest were eliminated one by one.

[meep.meep]

9 hours ago, ElectricBoogaloo said:

 

I appreciate how much work Roberi put into making his knot dress, but the end result was a post-apocalyptic rag dress (and not in a good way). It was like a hemp necklace on steroids. I thought the judges would say it looked like a bad arts and craft project. It looked like a macrame plant holder that got ripped apart by a cat. I liked his second look better, but compared to the other second looks this one was great.

Roberi's conventional materials dress was the exact same dress he's made at least 5 times now.  So fresh!  Same as his avant garde dress for sure.  So, he's as big a one way monkey as Erin and Laurance.

[millennium]

20 hours ago, Nordly Beaumont said:

My thought exactly! When I was a teen I had a friend that fed those to her... chameleons? I think it was chameleons. It creeped me out that she kept them in the fridge! (Yes, I know they were in a container and never came close to touching food, but worms are ishy!) I didn't care for the dress at all - it looked kind of childish and silly to me, even more after looking at the still picture in the recap.

You want to be careful feeding live meal worms to small lizards and frogs.  The worms are surprisingly resilient.   I have heard of instances where they can eat their way out of the stomach.   Stick with crickets.

[Oholibamah]

I know this season is getting a lot of hate, but I think this is the strongest group showing at Fashion Week since Season 10. They've each won a bunch of challenges, put out some interesting stuff, and rarely had any horrific misses. The only thing I've hated from any of the four of them was Erin's vomit shorts.

Excited to see who wins! Will honestly be happy with any of them. 

[HunterHunted]

3 hours ago, Mabinogia said:

Thing is, if I were to buy something from any of these people, it would most likely be Laurence, but that doesn't necessarily make her a good contestant for this show.

I wouldn't wear most of these peoples clothes if they were given to me for free.

I'm watching now and OMG Erin is just painful to look at. From the severe hairstyle with the dark ass roots to the stupid hipster glasses and the oh so trendy gap in her teeth to whatever the fuck she is trying to pass off as clothing. OMG that woman cannot dress herself. Why would I want her to dress me?

I like Laurence's clothes, but she's not a great contestant. She's got a defined style that she's mostly unwilling to deviate from. I likened her to Diane von Furstenburg whose brand isn't known for innovation. People come to her brand for the wrap dress and if the brand can entice you to buy some decent American sportswear, then so much the better. Diane was very lucky to be well connected.

A couple of episodes ago someone in the comments suggested that the prize for the designers should be an internship. I still have issues with that, but I think the vast majority of the Lifetime contestants would benefit from working on a design team. I feel like Laurence would benefit from working at a celebrity fashion line like Victoria Beckham, Rachel Zoe, or The Row. They have aesthetics similar to Laurence's, but the celebrities have their own ideas and their head designers may push Laurence out of her comfort zone.

[Broderbits]

41 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

A couple of episodes ago someone in the comments suggested that the prize for the designers should be an internship. I still have issues with that, but I think the vast majority of the Lifetime contestants would benefit from working on a design team. I feel like Laurence would benefit from working at a celebrity fashion line like Victoria Beckham, Rachel Zoe, or The Row. They have aesthetics similar to Laurence's, but the celebrities have their own ideas and their head designers may push Laurence out of her comfort zone.

I seem to recall that many of the contestants in earlier years had already worked for established designers. They were doing Project Runway as a way to start out on their own or build up their current business. The season 1 winning package included a stint designing for Banana Republic, but Jay turned it down. Maybe after that no one wanted to risk it.

[awaken]

16 hours ago, GreyBunny said:

I can't wait until next year when the sponsor will be Motel 6 and they'll have to scavenge materials from a dumpster behind a crack den somewhere in Jersey.

You mean they haven't already done this?  Somehow it sounds familiar!

[Canada]

Ugh, Priyanka Chopra is so beautiful, it's painful.  I'll bet she'd look great in everything that went down the runway in this episode, even the arts and crafts projects.

[nb360]

15 hours ago, terrymct said:

I was happy with Cornelius' elimination last night, but have to say that he's gone through a transformation during the season that's opposite of the usual path. I couldn't stand him early on, mainly because of his bitchiness, but as he got stressed out and even shocked by his first elimination, a lot of that fell to the wayside. More often, people get bitchier as the season goes along. His plastic cup dress was basic, nothing more. His second look was well made, but also really basic. It was a stretch to say that they were of the same collection. It feels like he ran out of steam. 

Yes, I felt the same way about Cornelius. I thought he was horrible at the beginning -- but after the episode in which Erin and Derek "mean girl-ed" him, I felt a little more sympathetic... He wasn't the best designer but he kinda grew on me. I hope he can come back for an All Star season.

[azshadowwalker]

Roberi's stupid uneven hemline is Laurence's shoulders and Erin's appliqué. Over that shit. 

Austin isn't "weird". It's just an overrated town with an annoying university. 

I hate unconventional material challenges and always have. I hate when there's only one per season. Three? That's enough to make this the worst season ever. 

Cornelius sure got the kind edit after being saved. Do I think he suddenly stopped being the petty asshole he was at the beginning? Nope. I think it no longer fit the story, so he was edited kindly. Glad he is gone. 

Edited December 10, 2016 by azshadowwalker

[GreyBunny]

Here's an idea for a challenge:  make a classy garment that doesn't suck.  I haven't seen that one this season.

If the best the contestants can do is glue a bunch of maggots onto pieces of plastic, the show needs to get better contestants.  (That's what Erin can call her crappy arts 'n' crafts line:  MaggotWear.)

[candall]

5 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

I like Laurence's clothes, but she's not a great contestant. She's got a defined style that she's mostly unwilling to deviate from. I likened her to Diane von Furstenburg whose brand isn't known for innovation. People come to her brand for the wrap dress and if the brand can entice you to buy some decent American sportswear, then so much the better. Diane was very lucky to be well connected.

...

That's very insightful, comparing her to DvF.  As soon as you mentioned her in your previous post, I thought, "DvF?  Oh!  Wrap dress!"  (I still have mine--a tiger print with huge shoulder pads--I keep it as a happy reminder of when I looked like a million bucks.)

I agree with the poster who said Laurence's jackets are knockout.  It wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to be known for chic, instantly-identifiable leather jackets.

3 hours ago, nb360 said:

Yes, I felt the same way about Cornelius. I thought he was horrible at the beginning -- but after the episode in which Erin and Derek "mean girl-ed" him, I felt a little more sympathetic... He wasn't the best designer but he kinda grew on me. I hope he can come back for an All Star season.

I thought the personality arc was interesting enough, but eek, hard pass on another season.

Cornelius pretty much summed up his own game when he said, "I don't have anything in mind--I'm just going to get a bunch of stuff and figure out later what speaks to me."  You could tell, for example, the others were already seeing leather straps as they pulled bridles off the wall, but Corn had the whole trip back to NY to think and only the Solo cups spoke up.

[dleighg]

9 hours ago, Jobiska said:

1) The gorgeous gray cat at the feed store.  Blink and you missed it, but we ailurophiles chez Jobiska never miss a cat.

That cat is the spitting image of my daughter's cat. I sent the family a screen shot (I was watching on the computer) and we all agreed that must have been Bella's location before she was adopted by my daughter at the pet shelter :) In Boston, Mass mind you :)

9 hours ago, Ketzel said:

Georgina Chapman must have a new contract with PR - they seem to have dropped her obligatory complimentary designation. She wasn't introduced as "The Beautiful" this time!

That former introduction was so weird, wasn't it? 

Edited December 10, 2016 by dleighg

[dleighg]

11 minutes ago, candall said:

but Corn had the whole trip back to NY to think and only the Solo cups spoke up.

LOL

[ElectricBoogaloo]

11 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

This is something that I've been struggling with watching the show. It sort of crystallized when watching her on the runway. She is fantastically stylish, but she's not a particularly interesting or innovative designer. She reminds me of Diane von Furstenburg. DvF has got one pitch, but it's a hell of a pitch. If you end up buying clothing from Laurence, you know what you're getting--clean lined sexy clothes.

ITA with this comparison. I also feel compelled to point out that when the judges like whatever one way monkey thing a designer is doing, they lavish praise on it by saying, "I could tell this was so you when it was coming down the runway," but when they don't like the designer or whatever your signature thing is, they say, "I'm tired of seeing you do _________." In other words, if they like the designer or their specific thing, they praise the person for having a consistent and identifiable aesthetic but when they don't like the designer of their specific thing, they say, "Can this person do anything else?"

Now I'm imagining the Solo cups lined up in a row singing to Cornelius on the plane.

Edited December 10, 2016 by ElectricBoogaloo

[Beden]

12 hours ago, millennium said:

Two unconventional materials challenges in a row.   My opinion?  A blatant attempt to keep Erin in the game.  She has choked on almost every other kind of challenge.   She sucks.  Her fashion sense is rivaled only by her make-up skills.  Gluing worms to guitar picks befits her level of talent, IMHO.

Okay, I admit it; I make some money doing craft shows--not a fortune but the point is I see a buttload of crafty stuff in my travels on the circuit and the kind of crap Erin turns out (mealworms , etc) is actually pretty common on the low end. My personal favorite crappola entry (not made by me, god knows) was the very nice lady who recycles k-cups from coffee machines and uses them to make Christmas ornamental dolls.--available in every possible form and/or featuring your favorite sports team; that and the piggy banks made from used clorex bottles. Oy. I suspect, seriously, that Erin has a firm background in crafting and that forms the basis of her esthetic.

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I like Laurence's clothes, but she's not a great contestant. She's got a defined style that she's mostly unwilling to deviate from. I likened her to Diane von Furstenburg whose brand isn't known for innovation. People come to her brand for the wrap dress and if the brand can entice you to buy some decent American sportswear, then so much the better. Diane was very lucky to be well connected.

I agree but the difference is that DVF actually has talent to run with her basic idea and the business cojos to make it fly--the connections got her a foot in the door as a novelty and she's smart enough to understand the situation and reality ; you can have connections up the wazoo but if you can't back them up you're likely a flash in the pan.

Edited December 10, 2016 by Beden

[cinsays]

I have a question.

How are the models assigned to each designer? I should have noticed, but have not, whether the same models are with the same designer for the entire series, are they?

I think one reason I did not like Roberi's macramé dress was that the model and the dress just blended together too much.  If it had been on the model wearing Cornelius's conventional outfit I think it would have been quite a bit more attractive. 

[Texasmom1970]

On 12/8/2016 at 10:40 PM, KLovestoShop said:

Erin is starting to dress like a hootchie mama. That banana necklace was fugly. 

I have notice some of her outfits were questionable in the past few episodes. Looked like she was ready to hit the beach or the corner at the very least.

On 12/8/2016 at 9:48 PM, Straycat80 said:

Another unconventional materials challenge? Ugh! I almost didn't watch. 

I'm glad Roberi won. His poor bleeding fingers! It looked like a big macrame project but it was definitely different than anybody else's. 

Who knew you needed hazard pay to make macrame!

I did not love Laurence's second yellow look. But I was like WTH when they mentioned the yellow. When Erin has sent some shade of yellow down the runway almost every friggin episode!

[AZChristian]

9 hours ago, azshadowwalker said:

Cornelius sure got the kind edit after being saved. Do I think he suddenly stopped being the petty asshole he was at the beginning? Nope. I think it no longer fit the story, so he was edited kindly. Glad he is gone. 

Ever the optimist, I am hoping that once he was on the RECEIVING end of mean-girl bitchiness, he realized that it was a sucky place to be, and decided not to be the mean girl bitch from now on in his own life. 

[millennium]

51 minutes ago, Texasmom1970 said:

I did not love Laurence's second yellow look. But I was like WTH when they mentioned the yellow. When Erin has sent some shade of yellow down the runway almost every friggin episode!

These designers may not be color blind, but they are blind to color.

Rik, for example.   I screamed at him through the TV to step back from the black.  And even if he was committed to black due to the vinyl, at least use color in the conventional design.   Use an electric blue or something.  But no.

I had the same feeling you did when Laurence went for the yellow.   She was there.  She knows Erin's repeated used of yellow has left everyone feeling jaundiced.    But she goes for it anyway.   What the heck?

[Ketzel]

8 hours ago, GreyBunny said:

Here's an idea for a challenge:  make a classy garment that doesn't suck.  I haven't seen that one this season.

And you never will, because making classy garments that don't suck takes more than one day, minus the time spent getting the assignment from Tim and Heidi,  sketching, travelling, shopping at Mood, setting up, eating, meeting with Tim, sleeping, dressing yourself, consulting with the hair and makeup people and using the Product Placement wall "thoughtfully."  

Edited December 10, 2016 by Ketzel

[mightysparrow]

18 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

This is something that I've been struggling with watching the show. It sort of crystallized when watching her on the runway. She is fantastically stylish, but she's not a particularly interesting or innovative designer. She reminds me of Diane von Furstenburg. DvF has got one pitch, but it's a hell of a pitch. If you end up buying clothing from Laurence, you know what you're getting--clean lined sexy clothes.

I think Laurence is truly chic.  She's appear to be a woman who is comfortable in her own skin and doesn't feel the need to follow this minute's trends in order to appear 'cool'.  I actually think that the judges are a bit afraid of her because she's actually cooler than they are.  Zac seems to really admire her and wouldn't be surprised if Laurence got a job at Brooks Brothers if she doesn't win.

I honestly felt sorry for Laurence in this last 'avant garde' challenge.  It was clear she was doing what she thought the judges wanted to see, instead of following her own gut.  Laurence' clothes might not be muppet-yellow, glue gun creations, but I think a woman could wear her clothes year after year and always look good.  I'm looking forward to seeing what she's going to do now that she doesn't have to worry about pleasing the likes of Heidi Klum or the latest cable-tv sensation.

[MortysCleaningLady]

If I were ever to be on a reality show, I'd come with a couple of plans for what to do (sew, cook, bake, learn to drive a stick shift, etc).  If I were to be on PR, I'd have an unconventional plan.   Just one, though.   I think we could clearly see the designers were pretty much out of ideas.   Most of them went to glue.  Roberi opting to macramé really set himself apart.   (And I loved the tie print dress.) 

I also think Laurence is the real star here -- sure, she's not winning every challenge, but if you were to have one of these people create a look for you, I think we are all running straight to her.  

[mauras]

I didn't love any of the looks this week other than Roberi's conventional look. I think all the designers seem kind of tired and out of ideas. The right person went home, for sure--Cornelius's unconventional dress looked like a child's beach pail or something. But I'm hoping Rik will be the next out. He's competent, mostly (though his conventional look was extremely poorly made), but unimaginative and unmemorable.

[limecoke]

Prior to this season I considered the Gretchen and Flower Easter Bonnet lady to be the worst seasons of PR.  Nope, this one tops it.  I truly hate everything I've seen.  They are slapping together crappy designs with messy seams, no hems, horrible fit and glued on crap. I did more finished sewing in my Singer sewing class.

Anyway, apart from Roberi's conventional dress, everything on this this episode looked awful.  Erin does the SAME OLD THING and the judges fall all over her.  Don't they usually get annoyed at things that look too crafty? Meh.

Missing the Bravo days.

Edited December 11, 2016 by limecoke

[DEL901]

I agree, 3 unconventional materials challenges are too many in one year.  Did they even do evening wear this year? 

[RedheadZombie]

Again we were *this close* to being rid of Erin and Tim ruins it!  Stop telling her when her look is shit.  She has no idea!

[gingerandcloves]

I know. We never saw an evening wear challenge, or a menswear, or designing for the red carpet. I thought a lot of the challenges were boring, and 3 unconventional materials ones were two too many. I'm so tired of watching people glue crap onto fabric. I love both of Roberi's looks this last challenge though. His macrame dress was really creative and showed some great design elements, and the tie dress was really cute and wearable, IMO.

[Guest]

On 12/9/2016 at 3:29 PM, HunterHunted said:

This is something that I've been struggling with watching the show. It sort of crystallized when watching her on the runway. She is fantastically stylish, but she's not a particularly interesting or innovative designer. She reminds me of Diane von Furstenburg. DvF has got one pitch, but it's a hell of a pitch. If you end up buying clothing from Laurence, you know what you're getting--clean lined sexy clothes.

I'm the anti-PTV viewer this season.  I don't love anything Laurence has done.  I find her style bland and dull.  She personally looks like she dresses in mens black sweats and tees.  I don't think the stuff she makes looks sexy.  It's all too 'black unisex' for me.  But I'm not one for pointy shoulders, either.  

More UO:  I too loved Roberi's conventional dress.  And I don't mind Erin's aesthetic, though her occasional vocal fry and her personal style are annoying sometimes.  The steampunk glasses would be cute once in a while but not everyday.  And enough with the blue glitter eyeshadow and the limp bob.  

[sleepyjean]

I was so annoyed at the end when Erin said she had no idea what she was going to make for fashion week. Maybe she just said it to say it, but truly, to get this far in the competition and not have some sort of plan in your head seems ridiculous. Maybe not fantasizing about it as early on as Roberi, but she's had weeks to think about it during the competition, and still she's got nothing? No idea? No direction? No thoughts whatsoever?

[nb360]

I'd love to see a "clothes off your back" challenge (see season 2). Also, wouldn't it be great if FANS could vote on the challenge that the contestants then had to do???

[Calamity Jane]

4 hours ago, gingerandcloves said:

I know. We never saw an evening wear challenge, or a menswear, or designing for the red carpet. I thought a lot of the challenges were boring, and 3 unconventional materials ones were two too many. I'm so tired of watching people glue crap onto fabric. I love both of Roberi's looks this last challenge though. His macrame dress was really creative and showed some great design elements, and the tie dress was really cute and wearable, IMO.

I wish they would make rule #1 be that you are not allowed to use muslin at all, just the unconventional materials.  Ever since Anthony Ryan glued bird seed all over muslin, that seems to be primarily what we see, instead of some of the glorious creations out of flowers and lettuce leaves and coffee filters.  Or maybe you're allowed to use 1/4 of a yard of muslin only, somehow severely limit that whole effect.  Probably would result in too many near-nude models.  

[loki310]

When Roberi cut his finger for the first time making the knots I as like, oh poor guy! And then the next time we saw him, he had a finger bandaged. And then when he was talking to Tim, he had a few more fingers bandaged. And then in his next talking head, every. single. finger. was bandaged! lol poor guy put his blood and sweat in that garment!

[dleighg]

6 hours ago, sleepyjean said:

I was so annoyed at the end when Erin said she had no idea what she was going to make for fashion week. Maybe she just said it to say it, but truly, to get this far in the competition and not have some sort of plan in your head seems ridiculous.

I think she's needed the whole season to compete in order to fully grasp what the judges like about her so she can do it bigger and better in the fashion week collection. I don't think she necessarily HAS a direction of her own (or at least she's had it molded by whatever is floating the judges boats this season).

[StatisticalOutlier]

On 12/9/2016 at 8:14 AM, PepperMonkey said:

Also, Austin is so far and away from farm supply stores, it's ludicrous. Austin is weird for the sake of being weird (native Texan here) and more than anything other than the University, there's a huge music and arts scene. Erin really did embrace the "keep Austin weird" vibe with her guitar picks and meal worms. I know some/ many of you didn't like it, but I liked the guitar pick flowers with golden meal worm centers. Can't believe I just typed that.

I think it was actually said that Austin was supposed to serve as inspiration, and I'm not too sure about the meal worms, but the guitar picks certainly worked for that.  I didn't see any references at all to Austin in anything else, so I have to give her that.  I still don't like her.

And that feed store was in Georgetown, not Austin.  A whole separate town with a whole separate identity of its own, 30 miles away.  There IS a feed store in Austin that's been there forever--Callahan's.  Not far from Stubb's BBQ.   And right by the airport. 

 

On 12/9/2016 at 10:31 PM, azshadowwalker said:

Austin isn't "weird". It's just an overrated town with an annoying university. 

Austin really was weird for a while.  In the late 1980s, I was waiting at a light at the corner of 2nd and Lavaca and on the northwest corner there were two guys in suits with briefcases having a conversation with a naked man.  That's the Austin I knew and loved.

 

On 12/9/2016 at 2:29 PM, NewDigs said:

OMG! I guess you missed them making waffles in the BW breakfast room Day Two's morning! ::eyeroll:

That whole Best Western thing seemed like a parody.  I don't think that was the intention.

I know a guy who was at a place where they had waffles like that.  He got down there and was dying of thirst and saw a glass of orange juice and glugged it down and then realized it was pancake batter.

[Kickboxer]

On 12/9/2016 at 7:50 PM, Ketzel said:

Georgina Chapman must have a new contract with PR - they seem to have dropped her obligatory complimentary designation. She wasn't introduced as "The Beautiful" this time!

Maybe she and Harvey Weinstein are having marital difficulties.

[Kickboxer]

20 hours ago, limecoke said:

Prior to this season I considered the Gretchen and Flower Easter Bonnet lady to be the worst seasons of PR.  Nope, this one tops it.  I truly hate everything I've seen.  They are slapping together crappy designs with messy seams, no hems, horrible fit and glued on crap. I did more finished sewing in my Singer sewing class.

Anyway, apart from Roberi's conventional dress, everything on this this episode looked awful.  Erin does the SAME OLD THING and the judges fall all over her.  Don't they usually get annoyed at things that look too crafty? Meh.

Missing the Bravo days.

Agreed times 1000. At least the Gretchen and hideous clown-suit designer seasons were interesting in a train-wreky way because there were other designers making cool stuff that kept being overlooked. This time its only Roberi who puts out designed clothes. Lawrence is the same old tight jackets we've seen for years now, yes they are well made but, when I could have bought a very similiar look at Forever 21 five years ago, its not fashion. I can't even speak to Erin and her horrid ugly yellow things and terrible personal style.

[bunny52]

On ‎12‎/‎9‎/‎2016 at 1:50 AM, Kenz said:

Thanks, Bitchin Camaro, I got a big laugh out of that! I think the editors had some fun with that lunch scene.

I didn't get the point of that stare down.  I saw it, but I didn't understand it.  Can someone fill in that blank for me?

[Muffyn]

On ‎12‎/‎9‎/‎2016 at 4:50 PM, Ketzel said:

Georgina Chapman must have a new contract with PR - they seem to have dropped her obligatory complimentary designation. She wasn't introduced as "The Beautiful" this time!

They called her The Beautiful Georgina Chapman for so long that I automatically add it in my head.  Only  now it's Georgina Chapman The Beautiful.  That makes me want to give all of the judges descriptive add-ons to their names.  Zac Posen the Expressive, Heidi Klum the Magpie, Nina Garcia the Scowler.  

[PepperMonkey]

This is kind of off topic, but I have to clarify my statement about Austin being "weird for the sake of being weird." Austin is no longer wonderfully weird as it naturally was in the 70s and 80s, even into early 90s. NOW, it's got too many hipsters for my personal taste. I, too, miss the Austin of old.

I have to take up for the University, though: It's my alma mater and I love it. Not all of the history is good, just like with everything, but it's a damn good school and I'm proud to be an alumnus. Hook 'em horns.

I don't think this season, honestly, is any worse than any other since season 11. I didn't like Michelle but that sweater she designed was everything so I was okay with her win. I thought last season was the worst so far and even though Ashley wasn't my personal choice, I didn't think anyone else in the finale did any better.

At this point, I'm hoping for a Roberi win. I'm in agreement with several of you: I think Laurence is boring, even though I love her attitude. I think Rik is good but not consistent. Erin: I'm not even sure what to think. I have seen a few things and/or a few ideas here and there that I like. I see the DelPozo influence that many have mentioned but she wouldn't be the first designer to be influenced by other designers. I'm fine with her being in the finale, but I do hate her personal style, too. I'm not wowed by Nina's personal style, either, though, and she is supposed to be a high-powered fashionista.

[Wandering Snark]

18 hours ago, sleepyjean said:

I was so annoyed at the end when Erin said she had no idea what she was going to make for fashion week. Maybe she just said it to say it, but truly, to get this far in the competition and not have some sort of plan in your head seems ridiculous. Maybe not fantasizing about it as early on as Roberi, but she's had weeks to think about it during the competition, and still she's got nothing? No idea? No direction? No thoughts whatsoever?

I think her thoughts are "What am I going to make flowers to glue on out of today??" I think it will be formless oversized coats galore though some will have shit glues to them and others won't.

On 12/9/2016 at 9:06 AM, ElectricBoogaloo said:

I can't believe that they did THREE unconventional challenges this season. Look, I like the unconventional challenges so that I can see how creative the designers can get, but I do not need to see people glue gunning garbage onto fabric three times in one season. And it's absolutely ludicrous to me that an unconventional challenge is what determined who was going to fashion week.

I join you in calling bullshit on having not one but TWO UC challenges down the stretch and find it outrageous that one was designed to determine who deserved most to go to NY Fashion Week. It's made me throw up in my mouth a little with acid reflux from similarity to a certain designer's 'win'. I'm also waiting for them to now say that at least one of their final looks needs to use UC materials and one needs to be a coat. *eyeroll*

1 hour ago, Muffyn said:

Zac Posen the Expressive

I kind of like "The Handsy Zac Posen"... he ran his hand down another model's chest again, I think it was Ric's "Unconventional" model. I'd like to see him keep his hands behind his back during his too-close-up critiques and not be constantly pawing the models.

Edited December 11, 2016 by Wandering Snark

[kat165]

I think it was only Alyssa Milano on All Stars who referred to Georgina as "the beautiful..." I don't recall Heidi ever calling her that.

[azshadowwalker]

7 hours ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

 

Austin really was weird for a while.  In the late 1980s, I was waiting at a light at the corner of 2nd and Lavaca and on the northwest corner there were two guys in suits with briefcases having a conversation with a naked man.  That's the Austin I knew and loved.

The thing is that you really can see that shit anywhere, but most towns don't get the ridiculous attention that places like Austin or Portland do. They buy their own bullshit. Seattle, too. I have spent most of my life in Tucson, which has a more authentic feel, but most of the same shit that supposedly makes the media gimmick towns so unique. Much less intentionally "weird" and hipster. Everyone isn't so convinced of their own Specialness. Just a working class,  university town where even the old punks are real people raising families and working their regular 9-to-5s around the gigs and warehouse art shows. There's just nothing unique about the so-called "weird" towns except someone made a movie or the music industry latched on for a minute. You can find the same shit anywhere, especially if you live in the most liberal city of a conservative state or the largest city of a sparsely populated one. I guess PR loves the gimmicks, though, so it does fit them. Austin and unconventional material gimmicks. A match made in heaven.