Joy and Austin: This One Time At Family Camp

[lookeyloo]

they both look sober.

[toodles]

1 hour ago, cdp73 said:

It looks like she couldn't bother to run a brush through her hair.  

I'm not sure it's even clean.

[Mollie]

2 minutes ago, toodles said:

I'm not sure it's even clean.

I really did expect some kind of special hair style for the wedding.  Except for the dress, Joy looks just like she always looks.  I don't understand that.  I know she's never gone to high school parties or proms, but she's been to a lot of weddings and seen a lot of brides.  

[leighdear]

I think Joy just doesn't care.  Never has & probably never will.  Her sisters probably made all the decisions about everything and she just went along for the ride. 

[SMama]

They trotted everyone except CinderJana and unintelligible Josie for the congratulations videos. Jana was caring for the kids, and Josie was foraging for food. Now if it's true Boob has lobbied for irreprehensible Joshley to return to the show, why not try it out with a safe, congrats video? Not even faultless Anna made the cut. 

[Sew Sumi]

Marcy Dauer comes through again!  First Jana sighting. 

 

[Annb67]

I don't mind jilly muffins earrings or necklace...just not together. Way too busy along with whatever lace shit was on her sleeve.

[Fostersmom]

7 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Marcy Dauer comes through again!  First Jana sighting. 

 

Has she managed to hitch her son's wagon to any fundy girl yet?

 

I really like Jana's necklace, but her hair is a mess.

[Sew Sumi]

I'm starting to think they had another necklace-making party like they did before Jinger's wedding. Jinger's not wearing one because she couldn't attend. Can't tell from Jessa's pic if she's bare-necked as well (think she was?). But that might explain whatever that was that Hannie was wearing. 

Also, the bridesmaid's boquets look more elaborate than the bride's. 

[Clemgo3165]

Looks like maybe they were going for a beach look with the hair and makeup. Their hair just doesn't keep the look for long. Think everyone's makeup looked good.

[Beaner]

10 hours ago, Mollie said:

Are you sure the reception lasted until 5:00 am and not just that the video was posted then?

The guests really dressed down for that reception, didn't they?  Strangely, I don't see many Duggars there and that is their home.  Well, I'm sure the guests all bellied up to the bar for a shot of Duggar Kool-Aid, but there doesn't appear to be much to eat.

How is this even possible at a dry wedding?

[Sew Sumi]

I remember Jonathan Hartono posting a pic of a clock at the Compound after Jinger's wedding. It was 2:45, and that was an afternoon affair. I can totally see them going until 5. 

[pinkelephant3]

Does not seem that many Bates' attended the wedding there was another one today that is all over Instagram. 

[Sew Sumi]

13 minutes ago, pinkelephant3 said:

Does not seem that many Bates' attended the wedding there was another one today that is all over Instagram. 

JD flew back some Bateses to Knoxville late (very, very late) last night. The flight was delayed an hour; it didn't get off the ground until almost 1am Central. THEN, JD turned right around (maybe 45 minutes on the ground) and flew back to Springdale, getting home around 6:30. The party was probably winding up around then (cheap-o Boob probably ran out of food hours before). 

Edited May 28, 2017 by Sew Sumi

[mimionthebeach]

7 hours ago, Kokapetl said:

Something about "y'all". 

 

 

 

 

I usually will only watch Duggar vids without sound cause they never sound real or genuine and they creep me out. So, a couple of thoughts. I think I feel really sorry forJD. He's never had a chance - he's old before he's even grown and he's always awkward. There's a Jason?! And unfortunately he suddenly looks a lot like Josh. Jedidiah: Nike. No, seriously. Do they get irony at all?

[lianau]

8 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

Dude's wearing four prints! 

And where's the message from Precious Miracle? Was she also a bridesmaid, or was she relegated to flower girl again? 

Is Precious Miracle able to form a complete sentence ?

 

6 hours ago, Clemgo3165 said:

The dress seems far too froufy for Joy, I expected either cleaner lines or a more bohemian look. She looks like a little girl playing at being a bride. 

Well , uhm, yeah about that ...

[MargeGunderson]

6 hours ago, Clemgo3165 said:

The dress seems far too froufy for Joy, I expected either cleaner lines or a more bohemian look. She looks like a little girl playing at being a bride. 

That's because she is.

[Obsidian]

7 hours ago, Lunera said:

Unfiltered photo of the "happy" couple 

Gee, this is the best day of your lives, Joy and Austin. I hope it's the endless photos and Duggars that are boring them, not their marriage.

[queenanne]

2 hours ago, Beaner said:

How is this even possible at a dry wedding?

Oh, fundies enjoy preaching in circles at each other about how much holier they are than the rest of the world, exchanging the traditional identifying buzzwords over'n'over'n'over'n'over...  My aunt is infamous for being the last person finally ran out the front door by the vacuum being run after church service/reception, and they don't even have food.  

Plus for a lot of guests, I bet this makes a massive day trip with Gothardites like the Rodriguizes traveling hours/days to get there, so figure they might as well get their money and time's worth out of the celebration.  I personally don't understand it, but I feel like an outlier amongst women in general, never mind my own family.  I might stay longer at a private party but if it's a restaurant party, by the time I've drained my last drink and had my hourly cigarette (in the days I still smoked), I invariably feel like I've said all the new things I wanted to say about my life since the last month in which I saw these folks, and heard all the new things they could possibly wish to tell me; now, how soon is someone going to announce getting the hell outta here so I can do the same?  Seriously lack the kaffeeklatsch gene the other women seem to have inherited.  90 minutes?  Great.  120 minutes?  Pushing it.  By the time the three-hour mark rolls around, I'm brooding over all the stuff I still have to do at home, and contemplating sawing through my jugular with the nearest dull butter knife, but the other dames never seem to mind.

[SMama]

If the family has lost so much income over the molestation disclosure, why all the flying around. I doubt the Batesssssssssssss pay JD for his service or fuel. Boob must be footing the bill. Is it to get JD more flying hours? What's next, purchasing a thirty seater? It does not make sense, but when does this family make sense.

Edited May 30, 2017 by SMama
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[ariel]

9 hours ago, Kokapetl said:

Something about "y'all". 

 

 

 

 

 

Josiah  ( the one on the right) looks a lot like Chris Burke from "Life Goes On".

Edited May 28, 2017 by ariel

[ginger90]

Title of an article on Yahoo

Joy-Anna Duggar gets married on the same day brother Joseph Duggar proposes to girlfriend

 I wonder how Joy would feel about the wording of that. 

[Mollie]

11 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Title of an article on Yahoo

Joy-Anna Duggar gets married on the same day brother Joseph Duggar proposes to girlfriend

 I wonder how Joy would feel about the wording of that. 

Before long, they will be having double weddings.  (Buy two at once and save the difference.)

[Churchhoney]

9 hours ago, Clemgo3165 said:

Looks like maybe they were going for a beach look with the hair and makeup. Their hair just doesn't keep the look for long. Think everyone's makeup looked good.

It does look kind of beachy, now that you mention it. Might explain why Jana didn't part her hair, which seems especially strange for Jana, to me.   

If so, though, I think it's a little odd that you'd pair beachy hair with navy-blue long-sleeved outfits. Although I guess that works if you're going to the beach in 1905....

Edited May 28, 2017 by Churchhoney

[Churchhoney]

6 hours ago, Obsidian said:

Gee, this is the best day of your lives, Joy and Austin. I hope it's the endless photos and Duggars that are boring them, not their marriage.

Well, it might be their marriage, too, of course, but I think it's a sure bet that the photos and the Duggars had to be boring them. Who wouldn't those bore? 

I'm guessing the only reason the parties can go on all night is that most of the Duggars leave. Does anybody -- anybody -- really want to talk to Duggars all night? 

[Churchhoney]

15 hours ago, Kokapetl said:

Something about "y'all". 

Yeah, seems that y'all was pretty much the extent of it. 

Although Jeremiah (I think) thinks this wedding was "a long time coming." Which shows that time really does flow very very slowly in Duggarland

[toodles]

6 hours ago, queenanne said:

Oh, fundies enjoy preaching in circles at each other about how much holier they are than the rest of the world, exchanging the traditional identifying buzzwords over'n'over'n'over'n'over...  My aunt is infamous for being the last person finally ran out the front door by the vacuum being run after church service/reception, and they don't even have food.  

Plus for a lot of guests, I bet this makes a massive day trip with Gothardites like the Rodriguizes traveling hours/days to get there, so figure they might as well get their money and time's worth out of the celebration.  I personally don't understand it, but I feel like an outlier amongst women in general, never mind my own family.  I might stay longer at a private party but if it's a restaurant party, by the time I've drained my last drink and had my hourly cigarette (in the days I still smoked), I invariably feel like I've said all the new things I wanted to say about my life since the last month in which I saw these folks, and heard all the new things they could possibly wish to tell me; now, how soon is someone going to announce getting the hell outta here so I can do the same?  Seriously lack the kaffeeklatsch gene the other women seem to have inherited.  90 minutes?  Great.  120 minutes?  Pushing it.  By the time the three-hour mark rolls around, I'm brooding over all the stuff I still have to do at home, and contemplating sawing through my jugular with the nearest dull butter knife, but the other dames never seem to mind.

I'm with you on this.  I'm good for about a half hour.

[DkNNy79]

I can't imagine a wedding lasting til 5am when there's no alcohol, no dancing and probably not a sit down meal.  It sounds dreadfully boring.  It's not like we have an interesting mix of folks from all walks of life attending.

Edited May 28, 2017 by DkNNy79

[momofsquid]

1 hour ago, Mollie said:

Before long, they will be having double weddings.  (Buy two at once and save the difference.)

Whoa, there's a thought. Aren't the twin boys getting to that age? If the show survives that long I wonder if we'll see a two-fer. Bonus points if they can find sisters.

[Mollie]

2 minutes ago, momofsquid said:

Whoa, there's a thought. Aren't the twin boys getting to that age? If the show survives that long I wonder if we'll see a two-fer. Bonus points if they can find sisters.

Jana and John-David might be candidates for this.  But, what are the odds of them both finding spouses at the same time?  Maybe they should just get on with it and marry each other.  [Don't yell; it's just a sick joke.]

[GeeGolly]

If the girls didn't have matching dresses and if the boys didn't have corsages and if Joy wasn't in a wedding dress... nothing about their hair, make-up, clothing (for the guys) would give me a clue that they had all attended a special event, never mind a wedding.

Jinger's wedding was the only one that made sense so far. Jill's and Jessa's bridesmaid dresses looked like everyday clothing, but the hair and make-up was done up. Jessa served ice cream in a cold parking lot in November, the bridesmaids had on short sleeves and light colored dresses. Joy has a May wedding and her bridesmaids a wore long sleeved dark dresses with barely there make-up and bedhead hair.

[Churchhoney]

6 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

If the girls didn't have matching dresses and if the boys didn't have corsages and if Joy wasn't in a wedding dress... nothing about their hair, make-up, clothing (for the guys) would give me a clue that they had all attended a special event, never mind a wedding.

Jinger's wedding was the only one that made sense so far. Jill's and Jessa's bridesmaid dresses looked like everyday clothing, but the hair and make-up was done up. Jessa served ice cream in a cold parking lot in November, the bridesmaids had on short sleeves and light colored dresses. Joy has a May wedding and her bridesmaids a wore long sleeved dark dresses with barely there make-up and bedhead hair.

And Jinger's wedding was reportedly run by Jeremy and the Vuolos. So there you have it.

When it comes to wedding planning, practice does not make perfect for the Duggar family. Although I seem to remember them remarking on how it does. (Doesn't for raising kids either, come to think of it -- I don't know if they get much worse at that, actually. But they sort of just stop.) I guess practice only works for babymaking. Unfortunately.

[Fostersmom]

1 hour ago, momofsquid said:

Whoa, there's a thought. Aren't the twin boys getting to that age? If the show survives that long I wonder if we'll see a two-fer. Bonus points if they can find sisters.

 

56 minutes ago, Mollie said:

Jana and John-David might be candidates for this.  But, what are the odds of them both finding spouses at the same time?  Maybe they should just get on with it and marry each other.  [Don't yell; it's just a sick joke.]

At this point, the younger twins are going to get married before either John-David or Jana. I think she's got "survivor's guilt" and he had the life beaten out of him for years and neither are getting married anytime soon.

[Booey]

If I played a drinking game with those videos and "ya'll", I would be in the hospital right now.

Josiah needs to give it up with his hair and just shave his head already. That receding hairline ain't gonna go away, pal, sorry.

[SunnyBeBe]

I think that Joy Anna looks beautiful  in her gown. Her flowers look lovely too.  She is young, but, maybe, she'll get more freedom being married.  That's how I try to look at it.   I've sort of given up on my dream of one of the older sisters going to college and making it as an independent woman.  

What I don't understand is why the sisters are fine until they get married and then all this fury comes down on them.  I don't get it. I've always been a fan of the kids, not the parents, but, I can't see what's wrong with someone moving on with their life, if it's their decision.    I think it's a good idea to focus more on the marriage than the wedding.  Not everyone sinks thousands of dollars into a wedding ceremony and reception, that only last for a few hours.  I don't consider that a character flaw in a person. 

Edited May 28, 2017 by SunnyBeBe

[Sew Sumi]

2 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

And Jinger's wedding was reportedly run by Jeremy and the Vuolos. So there you have it.

When it comes to wedding planning, practice does not make perfect for the Duggar family. Although I seem to remember them remarking on how it does. (Doesn't for raising kids either, come to think of it -- I don't know if they get much worse at that, actually. But they sort of just stop.) I guess practice only works for babymaking. Unfortunately.

Well, who predicted that Joy would have a formal wedding? That's right, nobody. 

And I'll never forget Anna sing-songing the Gothardism: "Practice makes progress, and progress makes babies." Even not considering the second half of that ditty, I see no progress in weddings in which Duggars had primary control. 

Can't wait to see how bad Kendra's wedding will be. No Duggar cash. What does a preacher at a small IFB church working as a part-time mechanic supporting a wife and seven kids have to spend? Certainly won't be a thousand person blowout with an after party lasting until the wee hours.

Edited May 28, 2017 by Sew Sumi

[RazzleberryPie]

1 hour ago, Mollie said:

Jana and John-David might be candidates for this.  But, what are the odds of them both finding spouses at the same time?  Maybe they should just get on with it and marry each other.  [Don't yell; it's just a sick joke.]

Sick, but still humorous.

You might be onto something with a double wedding if Jana decides to get married. I think JD would probably agree to marry anyone they tell him to, too. There are plenty of Kendra-like sheep who'd jump at the chance to marry a Duggar. 

[leighdear]

41 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said:

 Not everyone sinks thousands of dollars into a wedding ceremony and reception, that only last for a few hours.  I don't consider that a character flaw in a person. 

The amount of money spent is never the issue for me.  It's a combination of the HUNDREDS of seemingly random people invited so they can gift-grab, the inability of the family to show even a shred of real care & hospitality with venue or refreshments, and the blatant, in-your-face tabloid shilling and photo ops that gets MY criticism. 

Jinger avoided most of that for me because, as others have pointed out, she had Jeremy's family participating.  This allowed her to go beyond tacky and inappropriate to modestly large, yet thoughtful.  In my eyes, none of the others thus far have gotten beyond Pinterest pitiful.  

Anna did ok, as she's not a Dugger daughter, but her wedding to Josh was so long ago, few people remember.  And most don't even want to. That's her albatross. 

Edited May 28, 2017 by leighdear

[Beaner]

It's beyond tacky to invite a thousand people to a wedding in what looked like a large auditorium and serve root beer floats and popcorn in the parking lot "reception." (Jill's wedding and Jessa's too, I think.) That's not a wedding, it's a circus.

[Mya]

2 minutes ago, Beaner said:

It's beyond tacky to invite a thousand people to a wedding in what looked like a large auditorium and serve root beer floats and popcorn in the parking lot "reception." (Jill's wedding and Jessa's too, I think.) That's not a wedding, it's a circus.

I agree.  I wonder if they put on the invitations to eat before you come.

[BitterApple]

I agree the Duggars just don't give a rat's behind about their guests. Even if full sit-down dinners aren't the norm, they could at least do cake, beverages and deli trays. That's easy and more of a cohesive meal than ice cream and pickles. I just don't understand why Fundies are willing to pack up their fifteen kids and drive two days to go these crappy affairs. They must really be desperate for sociliazation, because it sure as hell isn't for the hospitality.

[RedheadZombie]

7 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

I agree the Duggars just don't give a rat's behind about their guests. Even if full sit-down dinners aren't the norm, they could at least do cake, beverages and deli trays. That's easy and more of a cohesive meal than ice cream and pickles. I just don't understand why Fundies are willing to pack up their fifteen kids and drive two days to go these crappy affairs. They must really be desperate for sociliazation, because it sure as hell isn't for the hospitality.

But isn't this typical for these TV fundies who invite thousands for the spectacular gift grab?  Didn't Kelly Bates famously measure out a tablespoon of food for each guest?  They are all greedy selfish people at heart. And I would think anyone who's attended one of these virgin sacrifices would know to come with a full stomach and plenty of snacks. 

[Absolom]

There's a reason the weddings are held mid-afternoon most often.  It's the dead give away that the reception will "cake and punch" style.  Seeing the 2:00, 2:30, or 3:00 timing is the huge clue. 

[Churchhoney]

38 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

They must really be desperate for sociliazation, because it sure as hell isn't for the hospitality.

Well, if they isolate themselves half as much as the Duggars, I suppose they are desperate for socialization. And since they can only socialize with the right people, the pickings are probably pretty slim in a lot of places. No Christian group is getting any bigger these days, and I think that goes for most of the religious cults, too, so the pickings are getting slimmer.

I guess it's like living in a very very sparsely populated country or region of a country -- you'll drive 500 miles for a dinner party without blinking an eye. Plus in the case of these people, you're being allowed to attend a wedding of real tv celebrities. Probably are a lot of people who'd pack up and drive to Beverly Hills for that if they could. It's like going to some kind of festival of the gods. Where you bring gifts and sacrifices. Like a festival of the anti-Dionysius. Going into an ecstatic trance after eating melted ice cream, cheese curls and pickles until dawn. Apparently the desire to do that in large groups is built into human nature.

Edited May 28, 2017 by Churchhoney

[Sew Sumi]

Joy's wedding must have been around 7 to avoid serving dinner.  It was still light when they took the People picture, and we've seen pictures of sunset weddings in the venue (Rogers, not Springdale). Sunset is around 8:30 (I checked), so if it was a short ceremony, they had plenty of time to get that shot out when they did.

[MamaMax]

5 minutes ago, Absolom said:

There's a reason the weddings are held mid-afternoon most often.  It's the dead give away that the reception will "cake and punch" style.  Seeing the 2:00, 2:30, or 3:00 timing is the huge clue. 

I'm not sure that's out of the ordinary for some parts of the country, though.  I mean, the wedding is the point, especially to religious people.  Honestly, the conspicuous-consumer, one-upsmanship, show-off, break the bank affairs that people have up here in NY kinda piss me off. Particularly when you know the people and KNOW they can't afford it.

[Churchhoney]

23 minutes ago, Absolom said:

There's a reason the weddings are held mid-afternoon most often.  It's the dead give away that the reception will "cake and punch" style.  Seeing the 2:00, 2:30, or 3:00 timing is the huge clue. 

I was alive when dinosaurs roamed the earth, but I don't remember it clearly. Seems to me, though, that once upon a time almost all weddings were cake-punch-maybe-spiked-maybe-not-mints-and-maybe-a-nut-cup? At least weddings with more than a dozen and a half or so in attendance, anyway?

I also vaguely remember the first reception-is-dinner-or-almost-a-dinner wedding invitation I got and that I thought the late-afternoon timing was really odd. Like "We'd better eat a big lunch because we'll have nothing but cake to gnaw on until around 10 o'clock that night." Took me awhile to figure out that we'd be fed as part of the invite. In the lateish '70s, I guess? ... And I doubt I was really pleased at the idea of hanging out at the event for so many hours either, even with a dinner, actually. I'm still not, for big weddings. It's okay with small ones where I know most people. Otherwise ... not really.

Since fundie tends to mean bring-back-the-'50s-or-earlier, I'm guessing that cake and punch continue to make sense on those grounds.

Edited May 28, 2017 by Churchhoney

[lascuba]

37 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

I agree the Duggars just don't give a rat's behind about their guests. Even if full sit-down dinners aren't the norm, they could at least do cake, beverages and deli trays. That's easy and more of a cohesive meal than ice cream and pickles. I just don't understand why Fundies are willing to pack up their fifteen kids and drive two days to go these crappy affairs. They must really be desperate for sociliazation, because it sure as hell isn't for the hospitality.

That's one reason I'm fine with the Duggars being such cheap hosts. You're traveling all this way to attend the wedding of people you hardly know just because they're fundie famous? Why should you get a more than ice cream and punch in a cold parking lot? 

Also, enough people have said that the cake/punch wedding is a common regional/cultural thing that I believe it, and if that's the custom and expected, it would almost be tacky to go the other way with a full sit down dinner and all that jazz. Like they were showing off to their peers. Where it falls apart for the Duggars is that they a)make it a point to go on about how cheap they can be with these weddings while b)having these huge, greedy gift registries. Pretty sure registering for gifts isn't the custom either but sure, let's conveniently break THAT tradition. 

[Sew Sumi]

Speaking of registries, I just checked the Forsyths, and Austin didn't get any of his power tools. They didn't get the tents either, but they did get 2/3 sleeping bags. 

Edited May 28, 2017 by Sew Sumi

[ginger90]

The thing with the Duggars and the weddings, is the hype. But what is the hype really about? Enjoying the company of family and friends? Enjoying setting up a home together? Actually knowing who you are marrying, leading to the wonderful feeling of it all?  Others really sharing in the happiness?

Or, is it robotic, pray to God for the right wedding gown crap?

I wouldn't have a problem with attending a truly wonderful ceremony for an actual couple, and then going down to the church basement for a bite to eat, as far as receptions go.

Edited May 28, 2017 by ginger90