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As much as these girls are on Pinterest, you'd think she'd have seen the breakfast burritos that you can make in bulk and freeze.  All she'd have to do is move one from the freezer to the fridge the night before and nuke it in the morning.

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I hate to point this out, Derelict and Muffy, but that thing is merely fried eggs that are folded over cheese, with hot sauce dripped over it.  That doesn't qualify as an omelet.  Which is fine, if you like folded fried eggs.  Enjoy them all you like.  Just don't call them an omelet.  Call a thing a thing.  Don't call chicken a steak, and don't call fried eggs an omelet.  And I promise not to call an apple a banana.

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I've watched the Duggars cook and eat a lot of eggs over the years.  Michelle and the older girls at TTH.  Jessa at the Mold House.  Ben at the Mold House.  Jill and Derick.

Almost without exception (except the morning Josh cooked and served JB a full breakfast in bed),  they only eat eggs.  Never a full breakfast balanced with a carb (oatmeal, toast, tortillas, etc, and fresh fruit.  Just eggs.

I just find it odd.

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13 hours ago, flyingdi said:

Since when is Wifey a compliment?  Oh, the horrors of growing up without access to Judy Blume.

Sorry did I age myself?  Jill M Dillard's mind would explode reading about "Deenie"

I was actually suspended from the 7th grade for having this book during our mandatory reading hour.  They called it porn.  No, it was a book with sex but not porn.  I wasn't named but this incident made it onto the front page of our COUNTY newspaper.  

So am I to understand this correctly the Dillards, who have more money than the average person of their age, took campus housing?  Are there housing issues at that school like there are ours (not enough campus housing for those that want it)?  Cause if so, another reason I want to throat punch them.  

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2 hours ago, MamaMax said:

Im surpprised that we havent discussed his Gothard denial tweet. Isnt that pretty significant?

I think it is. I'm still stunned by it, actually.  Although I don't know what he was responding to -- I assume somebody who pegged him online as a Gothardite? ...Der went with Jilly Muffin to at least one Gothard Texas event, I think, and the SOS guy is Gothard-entwined as well.  But I'm quite sure that neither Der, Bin nor Jer has never remotely considered becoming active ATIers and IBLPers. They weren't unfortunate enough to grow up in it and they all have their own religious backgrounds and preferences.

It seems new to publicly call it out and throw shade at it, though. I'm actually kind of impressed that he did. Have no idea what it portends. 

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Wait a minute....Derick is going off to WORK? Where does he W.O.R.K.? Is he an employee of Cross Church or is he employed anywhere at all?  Derick, "work' means that YOU are paid for your efforts...not that YOU are paying THEM...ie, this training class you seem to be enrolled in. I'm confused.

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1 hour ago, Kokapetl said:

Why is this issue so important to him? Did he have some sort of ‘The Crying Game’ experience?

Well, I expect it's the same reason there's a Nashville Statement and that Jer preached a sermon against some elderly minister who said he'd be willing to perform a gay marriage.

LBGQT folks and the fact that they're more and more accepted in society and more and more visible in media and so on are the huge rallying call for the old-fart fundies these days. Abortion's still important to them but they  are especially interested in agitating against the LBGQT media presence and such because they can call that a sort of new Satanic influence on the impressionable people in the society. And both Der and Jer want to work for their church leaders -- they spend tons of time retweeting them and praising them on social media -- so it's not surprising at all that they choose to speak out on this cause that's so important to most of those leaders, seems to me.

And being part of a family that's on a TeeVee network that gives airtime to a transgender person may make Der especially eager to speak out -- since he wouldn't want to think his proximity to it means he approves. As usual, he -- along with Jer (and formerly Bin, although I think Jessa must have decided that they can't preach any more lest they piss off TeeVee viewers) -- is just following the lead of the kind of people he hopes to emulate in his career and his life. 

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1 hour ago, louannems said:

I've watched the Duggars cook and eat a lot of eggs over the years.  Michelle and the older girls at TTH.  Jessa at the Mold House.  Ben at the Mold House.  Jill and Derick.

Almost without exception (except the morning Josh cooked and served JB a full breakfast in bed),  they only eat eggs.  Never a full breakfast balanced with a carb (oatmeal, toast, tortillas, etc, and fresh fruit.  Just eggs.

I just find it odd.

The thing I find weird is Michelle has 1 husband and 19 kids and she scrambled one egg at a time making breakfast.  Cmon, Michelle! ???

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17 minutes ago, flyingdi said:

The thing I find weird is Michelle has 1 husband and 19 kids and she scrambled one egg at a time making breakfast.  Cmon, Michelle! ???

I don't remember seeing that, but I can imagine her doing this (LOL no, I can see the Jslaves being instructed to do this) in order to ensure that no one gets any more or less than one egg.

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Can't get worked up over Jill's omelette.  I've never been able to make a good one, and decided years ago to just scramble eggs with the other stuff added in.

Have you ever seen Julia Child's omelette?  They're not at all like what I think about when I think of an omelette.  They're very thin with a small amount of filling and sometimes look like slug on a plate.  Because I've gotten used to the fluffy omelettes that are more commenly served in the diners my middle classed hiney frequents.

https://youtu.be/hWi3NwDrQok?t=337

However, I still think Dericks an ass.

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Monte Durham ✔ @MonteDurham

It’s #UnityDay2017! Join me, @TLC & @PACER_NBPC in wearing orange to support students who experience bullying! #GiveALittleTLC

3:42 PM - Oct 25, 2017

Dreck retweeted this yesterday/today. Is he for real? He should take a long, hard look at himself in the mirror first.

Also, I wonder if Dreck knows that Monte is not only gay but *gasp* married - not that it matters to me (pro-LGBTQ here), but I assume he is not aware; otherwise I'm pretty sure his hateful ass wouldn't have retweeted this.

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2 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

I was actually suspended from the 7th grade for having this book during our mandatory reading hour.  They called it porn.  No, it was a book with sex but not porn.  I wasn't named but this incident made it onto the front page of our COUNTY newspaper.  

So am I to understand this correctly the Dillards, who have more money than the average person of their age, took campus housing?  Are there housing issues at that school like there are ours (not enough campus housing for those that want it)?  Cause if so, another reason I want to throat punch them.  

That book is exactly what I think of when I hear the term "wifey!" I doubt these fools are aware of that, but still not sure why they glommed onto it.

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College ministry makes sense to me. I think his most fond memories are from when he was a college student, plus, Jill is just not cut out to be even a fake SOS-type missionary. If he goes into college ministry, he gets to be in his happy place and Jill doesn't have to leave the safety of her family. 

 

According to Merriam-Webster, the term "wifey" first showed up in print in 1786. I doubt that the majority of people are even aware of the novel and it's negative connotations, most people just use it as a counterpoint to "hubby".

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58 minutes ago, Zahdii said:

Can't get worked up over Jill's omelette.  I've never been able to make a good one, and decided years ago to just scramble eggs with the other stuff added in.

Have you ever seen Julia Child's omelette?  They're not at all like what I think about when I think of an omelette.  They're very thin with a small amount of filling and sometimes look like slug on a plate.  Because I've gotten used to the fluffy omelettes that are more commenly served in the diners my middle classed hiney frequents.

https://youtu.be/hWi3NwDrQok?t=337

However, I still think Dericks an ass.

Julia was a French cook, so made French style omelets.  You are used to eating American style omelets.  Americans tend to think bigger is better.  Thus the difference in the obesity levels in the 2 different countries.  It's the difference between eating one exquisite chocolate truffle vs eating a large Hershey bar.

That... thing that Jill served up is more like eating a off-market carob bar.

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42 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Here's the website that explains his program. Apparently, he can choose his specialty and seems to have chosen college ministry. Not much help to him back in the mission field.

 

http://www.crosschurchschool.com/

So he’s not a student at a public school, and the gubmint isn’t paying for this? Piss it away Derick! Sounds like Cross Church and you deserve each other.

I know I sound harsh, but they'll never learn otherwise. 

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1 hour ago, PinkyCupcake said:

Also, I wonder if Dreck knows that Monte is not only gay but *gasp* married - not that it matters to me (pro-LGBTQ here), but I assume he is not aware; otherwise I'm pretty sure his hateful ass wouldn't have retweeted this.

I didn't realize the re-tweet is about anti-bullying day and assumed Derick retweeted something about his college football team since Monte is wearing an orange shirt.

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@Kokapetl,  He forked over $12k to Cross Church to take classes one day a week, and "work" for their college ministry. 

As I said yesterday, it's not work if you're paying them. Derelict seems to think otherwise. I guess that makes him feel manly, since they're living off of Jill's TLC money for expenses (and the ability for her and the baby to travel with the Cross Church group to DC a couple of weeks ago). 

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16 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Nope. He forked over $12k to Cross Church to take classes one day a week, and "work" for their college ministry. 

As I said yesterday, it's not work if you're paying them. Derelict seems to think otherwise. I guess that makes him feel manly, since they're living off of Jill's TLC money for expenses (and the ability for her and the baby to travel with the Cross Church group to DC a couple of weeks ago). 

I expect he's desperate for some kind of stepping stone to one of those churchy-type careers that he hoped he'd get by marrying a Duggar woman. When you look at the three outsider-male-Dugg-adjacents, they're all trying out such stepping stones. I don't know that any of them is willing to work all that hard -- but they do all dimly know that they want and need careers at some point, looks like. And they all married into this gang because they wanted the Duggar name to get them religious careers, so that's where everybody's at....Those aren't easy careers to get these days, I don't think. And I expect that all of them figured they could aim high once they'd snagged a Duggar girl with her big churchy-mcchurch social-media following. 

At the moment, Jer seems to be in the best shape, with his tiny plant church, although he's obviously sniffing around for other possibilities as well. And if the plant church doesn't grow, who knows? Don't know what's going on with Bin but I assume he's still taking his correspondence course in church leadership/management or whatever that was. Haven't heard much about it lately. But it sounded very much like an online version of the Cross Church thing that Der's doing -- a sort of all-around-basics run-through of both church-management and conversion work. And Der, having realized that the missionary thing isn't going to work in any way, is trying to get a foot in the door of the (apparently) growing Cross Church empire. I imagine he sees this as some sort of internship in outreach ministry for the young generations, which I expect is a huge focus for the big conservative evangelical churches today, just as outreach to the once-mostly-Catholic Hispanic community is -- hence Jer's little church. 

Will be interesting to see who, if anybody, makes it. Or whether ultimately Der will end up falling back on his rusty accounting skills; Jer on his business degree and/or sports knowledge; and Bin on I don't know what. 

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2 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

Well, I expect it's the same reason there's a Nashville Statement and that Jer preached a sermon against some elderly minister who said he'd be willing to perform a gay marriage.

LBGQT folks and the fact that they're more and more accepted in society and more and more visible in media and so on are the huge rallying call for the old-fart fundies these days. Abortion's still important to them but they  are especially interested in agitating against the LBGQT media presence and such because they can call that a sort of new Satanic influence on the impressionable people in the society. And both Der and Jer want to work for their church leaders -- they spend tons of time retweeting them and praising them on social media -- so it's not surprising at all that they choose to speak out on this cause that's so important to most of those leaders, seems to me.

And being part of a family that's on a TeeVee network that gives airtime to a transgender person may make Der especially eager to speak out -- since he wouldn't want to think his proximity to it means he approves. As usual, he -- along with Jer (and formerly Bin, although I think Jessa must have decided that they can't preach any more lest they piss off TeeVee viewers) -- is just following the lead of the kind of people he hopes to emulate in his career and his life. 

I suspect that the anti-LBGQT sentiment comes from the Fundie higher ups for a fairly mundane and utilitarian purpose: The "Gay Agenda" politically encourages the kind of liberal thinking that is dangerous for the alt-right. I dont believe for a second that any of them care about the souls of gay or trans people. I dont belive they believe the "love the sinner" shit. I think they are invested heavily in just SILENCING all liberal voices. And they can use the Bible and scare tactics to alienate their minions, their rank-and-file members (who are ALREADY scared of anyone not like them) from ever empathizing with a gay or trans person. Make sure they never realize that gay and trans people are PEOPLE.  That's the real point of it, IMO.

Derick likely was homophoic and scared of all people different from himself already, and was ripe for the scare tactics used by the Alt Right leadership. Little does stupid Derick know that his "Godly" leaders have led him in the opposite direction that Christ would have. Feed the hungry, love your neighbor, the Good Samaritan, Judge not lest ye be judged,  Blessed are the persecuted, Turn the other cheek......ANY OF THIS SOUND FAMILIAR, DERRICK?

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24 minutes ago, floridamom said:

Their website looks like this 'course' is bullshit. Training for nothing,, really.

It does. But it also looks really similar to the Moody course that Bin was taking and also to the thing at Crown College that Joe took.

I can't figure out whether those organizations just know that there are a bunch of suckers who are dying for this sort of "career" and will sign up for one of these things and fork over cash. Or whether they think these outreach efforts can actually go somewhere and figure these programs will bring in some enthusiastic people, indoctrinate them in the exact ideas and methods they want to push and get their workforce needs met for some big evangelizing push they're thinking of launching. 

Actually, I expect both things are in play. I'm sure they see the easy cash. But I also don't think they have any intention of abandoning the evangelism thing and do intend some new pushes -- maybe seeing the current turn to the right in politics as a sign that the young will really want to come back to these churches soon -- so they're going to be ready with lots of buildings and people and programs to pull them in. 

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1 hour ago, Kokapetl said:

So he’s not a student at a public school, and the gubmint isn’t paying for this? Piss it away Derick! Sounds like Cross Church and you deserve each other.

I know I sound harsh, but they'll never learn otherwise. 

That would be fine if he wasn't soliciting money from the public for it.

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27 minutes ago, Westiepeach said:

My husband ... er ... "headship" *cough cough* would only have to refer to me as his "wifey" ONCE. Only once.

Same here.  I put that about on the same level as "the little woman."

Even my dad never referred to my mom like that.  And they were born in the 1920's. 

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Well, thankfully, his grifting efforts went up in smoke before they could even get started. 

I wonder if he started a private Go Fund Me (or a religious counterpart) somewhere, hitting up people he already knows so they don't have to dip into the TLC reserves?

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23 minutes ago, xwordfanatik said:

Same here.  I put that about on the same level as "the little woman."

Even my dad never referred to my mom like that.  And they were born in the 1920's. 

Around here, it is common to say the wife.  My husband, who isn't from here bristles at the phrase.  I'm glad I married him!

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11 minutes ago, fonfereksglen said:

Around here, it is common to say the wife.  My husband, who isn't from here bristles at the phrase.  I'm glad I married him!

Now, that would not offend me. One of my very best friends refers to my husband, Chuck (yes, he has a name) as "Husband." I love it, and when I talk about him on Facebook or Twitter or emails ... I refer to him as Husband. As in, "Husband took me out to dinner tonight." Everybody that matters knows who I am talking about, and it ended up to be a term of endearment.

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Maybe Derrick is posting negative stuff about Jazz because he's jealous that she can be who she really is, and he can't be anything close to what he wants. It would explain alot of his negativity in all areas lately.

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21 hours ago, ariel said:

I'm wondering if Jill is seeing any of the TLC money owed to her over the years ?  I would think that between the TLC money & the grifting, they'd be living high on the hog.  They seem to be living like penniless hobos.

I was actually thinking about this the other day. Derick worked at WalMart for a year, and they were living either rent-free or at reduced rent, so they should have been able to pocket most of his salary. He was apparently an employee of SOS, so there must have been some income, even if was very modest, since they were living rent-free. Plus, of course, they were taking "donations" that whole time and seemed to believe that $24,000 for a few months wasn't an unreasonable amount to expect. Even if they get nothing from the TLC gravy train, they still must have a pretty significant nest egg for a young couple. 

Jill can't cook or keep house, so there's no reason to spend money on food or nice things for the house. They're both slobs, so I can't see them spending money on clothes. They have no hobbies or interests, so there's no money going out for their personal activities. I really can't see any significant expenses (that aren't comped).

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5 hours ago, Lunera said:

Derick retweeted that from the TLC twitter page, I doubt he knows who Monte is. 

I would imagine that's where he found the tweet indeed. Regardless, the tweet both he and TLC retweeted came from Monte's official account so it's still funny to me.

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12 minutes ago, PinkyCupcake said:

I would imagine that's where he found the tweet indeed. Regardless, the tweet both he and TLC retweeted came from Monte's official account so it's still funny to me.

No worries, I tweeted about Monte and what the bullying day really meant to Derelict a few hours ago. Because there's no way he respects either Monte's "lifestyle" or the kids he's protecting with the anti-bullying day (which I thought was last week, but I've been wrong before). 

So, if Derelict reads the tweets that come his way (and since he's responded to me before, that would mean he spends a LOT of time on that account), he'll know who Monte is before the day is over. I might have also said that these kids are the targets of Fundamentalists. Oops. :D

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22 hours ago, flyingdi said:

Since when is Wifey a compliment?  Oh, the horrors of growing up without access to Judy Blume.

Sorry did I age myself?  Jill M Dillard's mind would explode reading about "Deenie"

 I wish someone could trick her into reading “Forever” by telling her it’s a book about heaven.

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On ‎10‎/‎25‎/‎2017 at 5:20 PM, Lunera said:

Jilly should have thrown in some crushed  antipsycotic pills inside that nasty looking omelette. And what work? A volunteer position is not working, he's just glad to be away from her all day while he relives his youth in college. 

Jilly better watch out. Ree Drumond might come after her for stealing one of Ree's gourmet recipes

eta - what is valentina sauce that Derick is raving about?  Ok, I just looked it up, it's salsa that they sell at Walmart.

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2 minutes ago, Arwen Evenstar said:

I don’t even think Ree Drummond would feed that funeral piece to the pigs.

She might sell it the the rubes that go to her "Merck" to make a buck for herself. 

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