Ugh!: Actors, Hosts, And TV Personalities You Just Can't Stand

[Jaded]

11 minutes ago, ABay said:

Until he said "Andrew" I thought it might be Sam Kinison.

When I googled Sam it brought up that George dedicated one of his comedy specials to him.

[Silje]

James Acaster has a routine about "edgy" comedians and mentions Ricky Gervais by name (the video should start at the start of that segment (2:26)):

[SusanM]

Someone upthread mentioned Don Rickles - not sure if this is a place to talk about dead stars that we couldn't stand but if it is he is on my list along with Jerry Lewis.  Probably quite a few others but these two are celebrities I've disliked for a very long time.  I know both did a lot of good in their lives, and in the case of Rickles at least, seem to have been well liked by their colleagues but even so, ugh.  I just never liked insult humour which was Rickles shtick and Lewis just always gave off creepy vibes to me.

[ABay]

James Acaster has a podcast with Ed Gamble called Off Menu https://play.acast.com/s/offmenu. They talk to other celebrities, many comedians, about an ideal meal.

[DrSpaceman73]

It's complex with comedians.  Crossing the line from poking fun to bullying is easy and ever shifting, its a moving target.  I give them some leeway and take the attitude you can choice not to listen if you dont like them, for whatever reason. 

The whole point of stand up often is to point out absurdity so finding the way to express it without insulting peraonally and chesply takes finesse and talent. George carlin could do it better than anyone.  But few can duplicate him.  

But certainly just outright racist snd homophobic jokes no, there is a line. 

Edited June 10, 2022 by DrSpaceman73

[bluegirl147]

27 minutes ago, DrSpaceman73 said:

But certainly just outright racist snd homophobic jokes no, there is a line. 

The problem is what one person considers racist or homophobic another person might not. 

28 minutes ago, DrSpaceman73 said:

George carlin could do it better than anyone. 

He really was the best.

[DrSpaceman73]

10 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

The problem is what one person considers racist or homophobic another person might not. 

Yes exactly the problem. Which is why I give comedians some leeway. 

But there are certainly still subjects, words, ideas so bad we would agree collectively you just can't do them. 

[Bastet]

On 6/10/2022 at 7:39 AM, roamyn said:

ETA I'm sick of people trying to be so damn 'correct', so no one's precious feelings get hurt.  This country has gotten so soft and weak regarding free speech.

Yeah, heaven forbid we try not to hurt people, especially people who are already marginalized in society.

And free speech means the government cannot punish people for what they say (but even the First Amendment has its limits; most, but not all speech is protected).  It doesn't mean no one can be held accountable by the people for what they say.  These comedians are free to say almost anything on stage.  They also have to face any consequences that result.  If someone offends a few people in each audience with a joke or two, those consequences won't add up to anything.  But if their comedy is predicated on punching down, offending entire swaths of society, then their career should take a hit, and it's about time that's starting to happen a little bit.

Edited June 12, 2022 by Bastet

[Ceindreadh]

"Satire is meant to ridicule power. If you are laughing at people who are hurting, it's not satire, it's bullying.”

Supposedly a Terry Pratchett quote, which sounds accurate. 

[DrSpaceman73]

1 hour ago, Ceindreadh said:

"Satire is meant to ridicule power. If you are laughing at people who are hurting, it's not satire, it's bullying.”

Supposedly a Terry Pratchett quote, which sounds accurate. 

I've seen that quote and don't agree. 

Satire ridicules ideas, not people or power. 

The idea you can't ridicule certain groups ideas without it being bullying I don't agree with. 

[SVNBob]

11 hours ago, DrSpaceman73 said:

Yes exactly the problem. Which is why I give comedians some leeway. 

But there are certainly still subjects, words, ideas so bad we would agree collectively you just can't do them. 

Going back to Carlin: he would disagree.

Edited June 11, 2022 by SVNBob

[MsTree]

16 hours ago, Anduin said:

So any idiot can get up on stage, insult people to their faces, and just be given a free pass? "Hey everyone, look at this ugly freak! Isn't it hilarious he's so ugly? So brave to go out without a paper bag over his head!" How is that funny?

No, calling oneself a comedian doesn't give them a free pass to be an asshole. Especially if they're picking on people already marginalised and persecuted. Dogpiling isn't funny.

That's not how it works. A good comedian does not go on stage and call people ugly. If he/she did, that would probably be the last time they'd be on a stage.

There's a nuance to all jokes. Try Googling Don Rickles to see if are any of his sets are available. Alternately, you can Google any "roast". Dean Martin hosted roasts early on....with others such as Jeffrey Ross later on. Even Joan Rivers got into the act.

When people go to see an insult comic, they know what to expect. No one is persecuted and everyone realizes it's just jokes.

[Cinnabon]

On 6/10/2022 at 3:29 AM, roamyn said:

Stand up is supposed to be subjective and push boundaries.

There are few comedians today funnier than George Carlin, and he skewered politics, religion, sexuality, societal norms.

We can’t, and shouldn’t, put a leash on stand up comedy because it offends someone.  

And yes, as long as it’s done in the stage, they should get a pass.

Dave  Chappelle’s one of the funniest guys around right now.  And his scathing stand up on Jussie Smollett, excuse me, Juicy Smollyay, is fricking hilarious.

It’s ok for people not to agree on this. I’m torn on Dave Chapelle. But those who don’t like him don’t have to watch him.

14 hours ago, Bastet said:

Yeah, heaven forbid we try not to hurt people, especially people who are already marginalized in society.

And free speech means the government cannot punish people for what the say (but even The First Amendment has its limits; most, but not all speech is protected).  It doesn't mean no one can be held accountable by the people for what they say.  These comedians are free to say almost anything on stage.  They also have to face any consequences that result.  If someone offends a few people in each audience with a joke or two, those consequences won't add up to anything.  But if their comedy is predicated on punching down, offending entire swaths of society, then their career should take a hit, and it's about time that's starting to happen a little bit.

Thank you. “Free speech” has nothing to do with comedians, unless the government is punishing them for something they’ve said. 

[Cinnabon]

20 hours ago, Anduin said:

Especially if they're picking on people already marginalised and persecuted.

This.

[Cinnabon]

20 hours ago, roamyn said:

No. And yes.  You can't tell me that individual political humor isn't funny.  That making fun of the actions of celebrities is okay.  Making fun of personal traits that someone was born with, or had done in an accident (Idiots like Richard Pryor notwithstanding) is not okay.  I don't agree w/Chris Rock's stupid joke, but how it he situation was handled by both Will & the Academy was worse.

Comedians CAN get up on stage and make generalizations, however.  Esp if they are abt a group they belong to (Josh Blue for example).

ETA I'm sick of people trying to be so damn 'correct', so no one's precious feelings get hurt.  This country has gotten so soft and weak regarding free speech.

“Soft and weak?” Or more compassionate and sensitive? I see that as strong. Too many people have a toxic concept of “strong” and I’m glad it’s changing. Certain types of men have historically referred to women (and often gay men) as soft and weak, and they consider that a negative.

Edited June 11, 2022 by Cinnabon

[RealHousewife]

Mileage obviously varies with comedy. There are plenty of things that offend me that do not offend others, and vice versa. If something hurts a lot of people's feelings, I probably won't find it funny and just think it's mean. I don't like poking at the transgender community for example. I don't like mocking other people's looks. But if it's nothing bigoted and an entire room is laughing and there's one person who's sour, I think if you are extremely sensitive, just ship comedy. I've been to shows with a family member gets offended by self-deprecating human that's not bigoted or problematic in any way. I'm a fairly sensitive person, so I wouldn't go see an insult comic, but most comedians are cool.

5 hours ago, Cinnabon said:

“Soft and weak?” Or more compassionate and sensitive? I see that as strong. Too many people have a toxic concept of “strong” and I’m glad it’s changing. Certain types of men have historically referred to women (and often gay men) as soft and weak, and they consider that a negative.

Mileage varies on strength too. It can take strength to be gentle with people. I've known men who fancy themselves very strong and protective but have extremely toxic straights. I don't care if you have big muscles and hero fantasies if you hurt my feelings. I won't feel safe with you even if you are physically more protective of me. I feel safer with the men more compassionate and sensitive. 

Edited: Sorry, I should probably take this to chat. Feel free to delete if necessary. 

Edited June 11, 2022 by RealHousewife

[ShadowHunter]

I can't stand Ezra Miller. He really seems like a genuine creepy guy. 

[rcc]

1 hour ago, ShadowHunter said:

I can't stand Ezra Miller. He really seems like a genuine creepy guy. 

Had to look him up. Yes he is creepy.

[Danny Franks]

On 6/10/2022 at 3:22 PM, ABay said:

Would he add fat people, do you think?

Maybe, maybe not. George had a whole bit (which I think you are likely aware of) where he drags "fat, stupid Americans and their fat, stupid children" over the coals for all their thoughtless, selfish, indulgent choices and interests. He never singles anyone out, but he's pretty brutal in his condemnation of people he thinks are being fat, dumb and slovenly because they can't be bothered to be better and because the culture of the US encourages them to consume everything they can, and keep consuming. Because that's what capitalism runs on - consumption.

For all his smart ideas, George was still a product of the time, and lived through the surge in obesity in the 1980s and 90s, where being overweight was seen as a character flaw and thus open season for comics. But I think he was still doing it in a more thoughtful way, by castigating them for being fat, as every other comic would, but then bringing it back around to a rigged system that needs those people to be fat and unhealthy and complacent.

If he was alive now, he'd probably have a more nuanced take but I don't think his underlying critique of the capitalist system would be much different.

[Cinnabon]

9 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

Mileage obviously varies with comedy. There are plenty of things that offend me that do not offend others, and vice versa. If something hurts a lot of people's feelings, I probably won't find it funny and just think it's mean. I don't like poking at the transgender community for example. I don't like mocking other people's looks. But if it's nothing bigoted and an entire room is laughing and there's one person who's sour, I think if you are extremely sensitive, just ship comedy. I've been to shows with a family member gets offended by self-deprecating human that's not bigoted or problematic in any way. I'm a fairly sensitive person, so I wouldn't go see an insult comic, but most comedians are cool.

Mileage varies on strength too. It can take strength to be gentle with people. I've known men who fancy themselves very strong and protective but have extremely toxic straights. I don't care if you have big muscles and hero fantasies if you hurt my feelings. I won't feel safe with you even if you are physically more protective of me. I feel safer with the men more compassionate and sensitive. 

Edited: Sorry, I should probably take this to chat. Feel free to delete if necessary. 

As a woman, I don’t need to be “protected.” This concept is also so toxic to me. I would never buy or use a gun, but if a woman was so inclined she could do that herself.  No need for someone else to step in.

[DrSpaceman73]

20 hours ago, SVNBob said:

Going back to Carlin: he would disagree.

He's saying you cam take sensitive topics snd make jokes about them and on that I agree. Two cartoon characters raping each other......they're cartoons. 

My point is there are some specific  jokes, not topics, you just can't make. 

You can make racist jokes

But I'll admit I had a book as a kid Truly Tasteless Jokes.  I would not dare repeat the racist jokes in that book to anyone ever again.  They're so bad I won't even give an example.  

And that book was sold in big bookstores in the 80s. Not like porn or x-rated shops, but b Dalton. 

[Annber03]

I think it is possible to make jokes about any topic, no matter how horrible and/or tragic, in and of itself - there's a reason gallows/dark/black humor is a thing, after all. And for people who've suffered some kind of trauma, sometimes finding a (dark) humor in it can make for a good coping mechanism, whether it's them telling the jokes or hearing a joke about it from someone else that they trust and feel comfortable around and whatnot. 

But I also agree that it's the sort of thing that can be done either right or very, very badly, and which takes a LOT of skill and nuance to pull off. And I also agree that yes, people can make jokes about whatever they want, but they also need to realize and be prepared for the possibility that people won't find them funny, and will call them out if they do find what they say offensive, and that it is those people's right to say so, just as much as it's the comedian's to say what they want. And I don't think there's anything wrong with comedians at the very least hearing those people out and listening to their complaints, in an attempt to try and understand why they were so upset, and figure out how to proceed accordingly from there.

But hell, even setting aside the potential offensive factor of the kind of edgy "anything goes" humor a lot of comedians like to use, there does come a point where the shock value and the "OMG did they just say that?!" shtick wears thin. And if a comedian is relying on that to get people talking, and if they can't figure out a way to update their humor with the times and continue to rely on the same old tired, stale "Ooh, look at me, aren't I edgy and daring?" types of jokes, then yeah, their popularity is going to wane. And the more they complain about how younger generations or other groups of people just don't "get" them, or they're "too sensitive/thin-skinned", or whatever, the more they come off all "old man yells at cloud", and that can be just as offputting as the actual jokes they're telling. Don't criticize others for having a thin skin if yours is equally as thin. 

Edited June 12, 2022 by Annber03

[Spartan Girl]

To add my two cents, here’s Nish Kumar on the Ricky Gervais stuff and what is and isn’t funny.

THAT is how it’s done.

[Bastet]

1 hour ago, Spartan Girl said:

To add my two cents, here’s Nish Kumar on the Ricky Gervais stuff and what is and isn’t funny.

"Why don't you identify as a good comedian, you hack motherfuckers"

Fantastic.  I'm not familiar with Kumar, but that was a good bit.

[RealHousewife]

3 hours ago, Cinnabon said:

As a woman, I don’t need to be “protected.” This concept is also so toxic to me. I would never buy or use a gun, but if a woman was so inclined she could do that herself.  No need for someone else to step in.

If we're talking extreme circumstances when a gun is necessary, agree, and in an ideal world, there wouldn't be so much gender-based violence. But I'm not offended by men who offer to walk me to my car or whatever. I'll leave it at that unless anyone wants to take the convo to general chat or the feminism thread. 

[ABay]

With my addiction to British panel and game shows like Mock the Week, 8 Out of 20 Cats Does Countdown (not so much plain 8 out of 10 Cats), Would I Lie to You, Richard Osman's House of Games, QI, Taskmaster, etc., I've seen Nish many times...also James Acaster, Lee Mack, David Mitchell, Ed Gamble, Jo Brand, Mel and/or Sue...That's just a handful; it's a very long list and they all seem to move from show to show in endless rotation.  Nish is very loud and to my mind overdoes the laughing when reacting to others and sometimes to his own material, but when he lands, he lands well.

[Mabinogia]

13 hours ago, Spartan Girl said:

To add my two cents, here’s Nish Kumar on the Ricky Gervais stuff and what is and isn’t funny.

I love Nish! He kind of nailed it. racists, sexist, anythingist jokes are lazy.  For me "ist" jokes only really work when they shine the light not on the stereotype of marginalized groups, but how ridiculous those stereotypes are, like Nish did with the ladies bathroom bit. 

I never did like Ricky Gervais because I agree with Nish, I think he just picks at the lowest hanging fruit to get a laugh rather than really making an effort. 

[DearEvette]

13 hours ago, Spartan Girl said:

To add my two cents, here’s Nish Kumar on the Ricky Gervais stuff and what is and isn’t funny.

THAT is how it’s done.

I am not familiar with this person, but I am now instantly in love and plan to find out more about them.  Thank you.

[JustHereForFood]

On 6/10/2022 at 3:23 PM, Anduin said:

No, calling oneself a comedian doesn't give them a free pass to be an asshole. Especially if they're picking on people already marginalised and persecuted. Dogpiling isn't funny.

This. If you are a good comedian, you are not afraid to punch up. Punching down is just lazy.

On 6/10/2022 at 4:39 PM, roamyn said:

ETA I'm sick of people trying to be so damn 'correct', so no one's precious feelings get hurt.  This country has gotten so soft and weak regarding free speech.

I wish the biggest problem the trans community had was hurt feelings. Sadly, they lead the statistics for violent attacks, murder victims, homelessness and suicide, all because of intolerant people. And people like Chappelle or Gervais are just pouring oil to the fire.

On 6/10/2022 at 5:19 PM, Silje said:

James Acaster has a routine about "edgy" comedians and mentions Ricky Gervais by name (the video should start at the start of that segment (2:26)):

Exactly.

On 6/11/2022 at 7:41 AM, SVNBob said:

Going back to Carlin: he would disagree.

Carlin had a very good points on lots of things. Here too, when he mentions how many groups of people try to police how people speak. And his take on dicks in power is sadly so true.

[Danny Franks]

3 hours ago, Mabinogia said:

I love Nish! He kind of nailed it. racists, sexist, anythingist jokes are lazy.  For me "ist" jokes only really work when they shine the light not on the stereotype of marginalized groups, but how ridiculous those stereotypes are, like Nish did with the ladies bathroom bit. 

I never did like Ricky Gervais because I agree with Nish, I think he just picks at the lowest hanging fruit to get a laugh rather than really making an effort. 

Nish is a semi-regular guest on The Bugle, Andy Zaltzman's satirical news podcast. I recommend listening to it, because Zaltzman is so funny and clever, and he has a whole load of guest comedians from around the world, including Alice Fraser, Nato Green, Hari Kondabolu, Anuvab Pal and Felicity Ward.

No matter how bad the news, The Bugle can make me laugh, even without former co-host, John Oliver.

[Annber03]

1 hour ago, JustHereForFood said:

I wish the biggest problem the trans community had was hurt feelings. Sadly, they lead the statistics for violent attacks, murder victims, homelessness and suicide, all because of intolerant people. And people like Chappelle or Gervais are just pouring oil to the fire.

This.

I've no doubt transgender people, as well as people who are sympathetic to/supportive of them, can come up with plenty of legitimately funny things to say and joke about regarding all the ups and downs that come with being transgender and their everyday lives and so on. It'd be no different than any other group of people cracking jokes about the ups and downs involving their sexual orientation, or race, or ethnicity, or religion, or gender, or so on. 

But for most comedians (and it's usually male comedians making these kinds of jokes as well), the extent of their "humor" about transgender people basically just boils down to, "LOL, women with penises/men with boobs, amirite?" And that's it. There's no real biting commentary there, there's no real empathy to be found in their humor on the topic, there's no attempt to mock the bigots who harass and abuse and kill transgender people, none of that. It's not novel, it's not edgy, it's not daring, it's not creative, it's just plain mean and hurtful and annoying ,and seems to speak more to the comedians' and audiences' personal insecurities over other people's sexuality than anything else. 

So yeah, of course transgender people aren't going to be all that thrilled with those kins of "jokes". They've already heard them numerous times, from politicians trying to strip them of basic civil rights to their co-workers to family members to religious figures and so on. It's rather hard to find the humor in "jokes" that also get used in non-comedic settings to justify treating transgender people like dirt. Not their fault that they're more than a little tired of it, and more than a little tired of people defending comedians who keep going to such a lazy, lame well. 

[Spartan Girl]

Patricia Heaton made my shit list this week with her stupid tweet about Disney “castrating” Buzz Lightyear by having Chris Evans do the voice instead of sticking with Tim Allen.

First of all, how DARE you insult Chris Evans?! Second, it isn’t the first time another actor has done Buzz; Patrick Warburton voiced him for the cartoon series, and I don’t recall you or anyone else complaining about that. And third, Disney+ has a Santa Clause series in the works for Tim Allen, so it’s not like they cut him off. Kindly take several seats.

Edited June 18, 2022 by Spartan Girl

[Wiendish Fitch]

4 minutes ago, Spartan Girl said:

Patricia Heaton made my shit list this week with her stupid tweet about Disney “castrating” Buzz Lightyear by having Chris Evans do the voice instead of sticking with Tim Allen.

First of all, how DARE you insult Chris Evans?! Second, it isn’t the first time another actor has done Buzz; Patrick Warburton voiced him for the cartoon series, and I don’t recall you or anyone else complaining about that. And third, Disney+ has a Santa Clause series in the world for Tim Allen, so it’s not like they cut him off. Kindly take several seats.

Also... "castrating Buzz Lightyear"???

Um, Patty? Sweetheart? You do realize Buzz Lightyear is a toy? And fictional?! And OVERQUALIFIED?!*

*Sorry, I had to reference Dwight Schrute to lighten the mood.

[bluegirl147]

16 minutes ago, Spartan Girl said:

Patricia Heaton made my shit list this week with her stupid tweet about Disney “castrating” Buzz Lightyear by having Chris Evans do the voice instead of sticking with Tim Allen.

First of all, how DARE you insult Chris Evans?! Second, it isn’t the first time another actor has done Buzz; Patrick Warburton voiced him for the cartoon series, and I don’t recall you or anyone else complaining about that. And third, Disney+ has a Santa Clause series in the world for Tim Allen, so it’s not like they cut him off. Kindly take several seats.

She has been on my shit list for years.  I cannot stand to see her face or hear her voice. So many real problems in the Hollywood and the world at large and this is what she decides to complain about.   And then she doubled down after being told the specifics of the movie.   Fuck her all day every day.

[Irlandesa]

58 minutes ago, Wiendish Fitch said:

Um, Patty? Sweetheart? You do realize Buzz Lightyear is a toy?

She has so many children and yet I wonder if she has even seen a children's toy.  I have no kids but from what I remember, once you take off the clothes, you find they don't have any distinguishable anatomy down there.

Edited June 18, 2022 by Irlandesa

[AgathaC]

1 minute ago, Irlandesa said:

She has so many children and yet I wonder if she has even seen a children's toy.  I have no kids but from what I remember, once you take off the clothes, you find they're ALL castrated.

You would be correct. My youngest niece’s dolls of both genders spend most of their time naked and, yeah, there’s nothing going on down there.

[janie jones]

I don't understand what she means by "castrate." Is Chris Evans unmanly?

[Spartan Girl]

Also, she based her comment solely on the trailer without bothering to see the movie. If she doesn’t want to watch it, fine, but don’t try to ruin it for the rest of us.

No, I have not seen it yet, but from everything I’ve seen Chris does just FINE as Buzz. So there!

[Blergh]

2 hours ago, Spartan Girl said:

Patricia Heaton made my shit list this week with her stupid tweet about Disney “castrating” Buzz Lightyear by having Chris Evans do the voice instead of sticking with Tim Allen.

First of all, how DARE you insult Chris Evans?! Second, it isn’t the first time another actor has done Buzz; Patrick Warburton voiced him for the cartoon series, and I don’t recall you or anyone else complaining about that. And third, Disney+ has a Santa Clause series in the works for Tim Allen, so it’s not like they cut him off. Kindly take several seats.

Wait, Miss Heaton actually said Captain America voicing Buzz Lightyear was'castrating' the latter character?!

[facepalm icon wanted]

Too bad Bugs Bunny's not around to say 'what a MAROON'!!

1 hour ago, janie jones said:

I don't understand what she means by "castrate." Is Chris Evans unmanly?

Would she have preferred the late Charles Nelson Reilly to have gotten the job?

[Wiendish Fitch]

4 minutes ago, Blergh said:

Wait, Miss Heaton actually said Captain America voicing Buzz Lightyear was'castrating' the latter character?!

[facepalm icon wanted]

Since what Patricia Heaton said is one of the most appallingly stupid things I've heard in a while, I give you... several facepalm gifs!!

Edited June 18, 2022 by Wiendish Fitch

[Spartan Girl]

I wasn’t aware that Buzz Lightyear was the epitome of masculinity.

Don’t get me wrong, I love him, but still 🙄

[juno]

4 hours ago, Spartan Girl said:

Patricia Heaton made my shit list this week with her stupid tweet about Disney “castrating” Buzz Lightyear by having Chris Evans do the voice instead of sticking with Tim Allen.

First of all, how DARE you insult Chris Evans?! Second, it isn’t the first time another actor has done Buzz; Patrick Warburton voiced him for the cartoon series, and I don’t recall you or anyone else complaining about that. And third, Disney+ has a Santa Clause series in the works for Tim Allen, so it’s not like they cut him off. Kindly take several seats.

There is a smugness about her. An arrogance and an attitude that says that she can say and do what she wants and get away with it because she is that important.

I have watched her interviews and the arrogance, bragging and fakeness are part of her persona. What comes through is that she seems to think she is better than others and that she is more important than others.

Most hollywood stars that I dislike I don't much think about. When she does a project I actively hope it fails.

[Bort]

3 hours ago, janie jones said:

I don't understand what she means by "castrate." 

To Patricia Heaton: 

[bluegirl147]

57 minutes ago, juno said:

There is a smugness about her. An arrogance and an attitude that says that she can say and do what she wants and get away with it because she is that important.

I have watched her interviews and the arrogance, bragging and fakeness are part of her persona. What comes through is that she seems to think she is better than others and that she is more important than others.

Most hollywood stars that I dislike I don't much think about. When she does a project I actively hope it fails.

I agree with all of this.  It was back around 2005 or so she publicly spoke out about something and it was something I didn't agree with which is fine but it was her obnoxiousness and attitude of what I think is right and if you don't agree with me you are wrong attitude.   I have hated her ever since.  On her last project Carol's Second Act (which I didn't watch because I boycott anything she is in) there was talk her husband who was a producer was engaging in some troublesome behavior.  I don't think anything came of it but I was actively hoping he got caught doing something really bad so she could be knocked off her sanctimonious high horse.  

And now with this Buzz Lightyear thing it's like she wants people to dislike her.  

Edited June 18, 2022 by bluegirl147

[Cinnabon]

On 6/18/2022 at 2:56 PM, Spartan Girl said:

I wasn’t aware that Buzz Lightyear was the epitome of masculinity.

Don’t get me wrong, I love him, but still 🙄

And whose definition of “masculinity?” 😂

[Mabinogia]

I might be wrong as I haven't seen it yet, but I thought Lightyear was about the "real" Buzz Lightyear that the toy was based on, so it would make sense to me that it would be a different voice, even if, for some reason, you found that Chris Evans was the ball-less version of Tim Allen. LOL

She's....a strange little person.

My complaint would be that it wasn't live action because Chris Evans as a space ranger, in a tight fitting astronaut suit....oh, excuse me, I have to, um, take care of a few things. 

[Blergh]

12 minutes ago, Cinnabon said:

And whose definition of “masculinity?” 😂

Somehow I don't think Mr. Evans is considering throwing himself off a cliff  merely because Miss Heaton isn't breaking down his door begging to canoodle with him.   

I don't think she'd have been too happy had he or any other male celeb had publicly stated that she was so far from their definition of 'femininity'  that she'd render Jessica Rabbit to be as less appealing than the Sea Hag had she been asked to voice the former cartoon character! 

[Leeds]

On 6/18/2022 at 9:24 AM, AgathaC said:

You would be correct. My youngest niece’s dolls of both genders spend most of their time naked and, yeah, there’s nothing going on down there.

Headless too, probably, if I remember my childhood correctly.  Which makes sense since there's not much going on up there either.

[Enigma X]

Since that Top Gun movie hit theaters and since Jensen Ackles has joined The Boys, I realize that I dislike Tom Cruise and Jensen Ackles more than most people. I am used to being alone in my opinions though.

[RealHousewife]

33 minutes ago, Enigma X said:

Since that Top Gun movie hit theaters and since Jensen Ackles has joined The Boys, I realize that I dislike Tom Cruise and Jensen Ackles more than most people. I am used to being alone in my opinions though.

Ooh what did Jensen do? I think he's the most gorgeous creature.