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Same here on April. I didn’t have feelings about her one way or another at first, but I grew to like her and I loved her friendship with Bobby and Cliff. (Cliff’s reaction to her death got me.) I, too, wonder what the show would have been like if they hadn’t lost April and Sue Ellen. I didn’t hate Callie, but I wasn’t super-fond of her either. But James? Ugh. And his mother — the “great love of JR’s life” — who never clicked for me at all. But even worse was his wife (can’t be bothered to remember her name). I did not buy her with James at all and my reaction to them being there was similar to John Ross’s. I didn’t blame him for deciding to say “to hell with this” and going to live with his mom. The last season was just all-around depressing. The only thing I partway liked was Barbara Eden. Bobby moping around (understandably) and hunting down Susan Lucci, Jordan Lee, James and his drama… I wish it could have gone out with more of the cast and characters we actually cared about instead of a bunch of annoying strangers filling up Southfork.

No kidding. When I was a kid, I got very excited to have one-on-one time with my dad. But I didn’t dress up. There were no flowers. We just went and ran errands or went to a movie or whatever. The way they do this is ultra-creepy. On a similar note, on The Today Show this morning they had a guy on who’s got a ton of followers. He’s a very manly, muscle-y macho type guy who has four daughters and loves it. He got fed up with people making thoughtless comments in front of his girls and did a video talking about how awesome daughters are and how hurtful comments can be. As someone who was a daughter in that position (child of a girl dad who was thrilled to have girls and showed it, but who was regularly faced with idiotic and hurtful “jokes” in front of said girls), I wanted to applaud.

There was something I was watching where they showed Oprah’s audience reacting to the verdict. The reaction of some people really stunned me. But the trial ended up shining a light on a LOT of issues — police misconduct, race relations, domestic violence. It’s a shame, though, that two innocent people who were horrifically, brutally murdered got lost in it all.

I’m sorry for Ron’s and Nicole’s loved ones, as this is likely to stir up a lot of negative feelings and emotions. I’m sorry for OJ’s kids. Whatever relationships with him or feelings for him were like, it’s not easy to lose a parent. I’m sorry his life wasn’t what it could have been. He could have been productive or found ways to make positive change. Instead, he left damage behind. For him? I don’t give a damn.

Yes!! I’m someone who wasn’t always a big fan of Miss Ellie. Half the time, she would stand up and give JR what for, only to backtrack. But that’s just my perception from when we were watching. I did love it when she got fed up! Do not even get me started on the CIA crap and that horrible woman and her idiot brother. I wanted do badly for her to get a comeuppance. Your husband damaged property and could have killed people! That’s his own damn fault. I thought the stupid Clayton story was a retread of when Jock had his heart episode — just drawn out. Hubby has heart problems. Ellie freaks out and hovers. He feels less like a man and starts acting like a damned fool.

*small voice* I didn’t mind April and hated the way they got rid of her. *small voice* That said, YES to everything you said. Clingy, over-protective Pam got on my last nerve. I joked to my husband that it may have been good for Christopher that she took off. I hated Jenna, but I was fully on her side with Pam’s offer to take the baby. HUH?!?!! Who does that?!? But her treatment of Bobby about the baby was ridiculous. He didn’t do anything wrong, for Pete’s sake. As for hooking her up with Ray — ugh. That was so obviously “Hmm. We’re putting Bobby back with Pam and we’re dropping Donna to save on salaries. Hey! Let’s put Ray and Jenna together.” I often felt Ray was one of those weathervane characters — he’d twist around to suit whatever role they needed him to fill. I wasn’t a fan. Vastly preferred Donna, who I felt was one of the few female characters written decently and consistently. I loved competent, business woman Sue Ellen. I also appreciated her (rather nicely) pointing out to Pam that she was spoiling and babying Christopher. Ugh. Charlie. I make some allowances given all she went through (who’s my daddy? My mom’s in prison. I live at Southfork. Now I live in a dump. Bobby’s going to be my dad. Now he’s not.) But she was still extremely unpleasant.

I live in the path of totality and we just had a few wispy clouds — perfect viewing weather. I didn’t get a filter for my phone, so no eclipse pix (I was too focused on taking it all in). But I did get some cool shots of the odd shadows/light crescents on the ground as we neared totality. My area has been going nuts about this for quite a while — partly because we’re usually not a destination for out-of-staters, so the prospect of all those visitors was exciting. Apparently, we’re in the path of totality for another one in 2045. That’s unusual to have two so close together.

There was hardly anyone left by the end. Big, mostly empty house. They filled it up a bit for a while with James and his family/drama, but I didn’t really give a damn about him or his long-lost wife (whom I found utterly annoying) and baby. And Jordan Lee. No. In some ways, I always thought of him and the Cartel as sort of comic relief. I chuckled when they popped up. What they did with him just felt way, WAY too dark. Then there’s talking about Miss Ellie like she was some delicate flower or a crystal flute glass or something instead of the tough ranch woman she really was. No, can’t tell her bad news. She might fall apart. I had some issues with Miss Ellie from time to time, but she wasn’t delicate. But then these are the people who frequently turned spitfire Pam into a weepy basket case, so… My husband insisted on finishing the series. I lobbied to just stop before JR entered the asylum (I hate those kinds of stories — people trapped). The show was already deteriorating before that, but it didn’t feel so dark and depressing.

Yep, I’ve seen that one! It’s hilarious. They obviously had some good times. We just finished our series re-watch. Fun, but, boy is that last season depressing.

A lot of the non-denominational and conservative Baptist churches around here don’t. Always seemed odd to me, too. Easter has a bigger impact when you take the whole story into account.

*snort* My mind immediately goes to the Barbie movie’s brewski beers (the horror) and mojo dojo casa houses.

Yeah, the whiplash on Naldo annoyed me. Jenna 2.0 specifically said Charlie was visiting Naldo in Italy. And, Ray… He was capable of being a good guy, but his insecurities really got to him. Completely incapable of being faithful. It kind of cracked me up that the only member of the younger Ewing generation to be raised by his natural parents was John Ross. Lucy: her grandparents Christopher: adopted by Bobby and Pam Lucas: real mom, but acting father was his bio half-uncle Margaret: bio mom and stepdad senator

I hated the way they wrote Pam out! It just didn’t make sense to me at all. But I ran hot and cold on Pam (thanks, largely, to inconsistent writing). When she was weepy and needy and a basket case, I couldn’t stand her. But feisty, independent, kick-ass Pam was awesome. Similarly, cool, scheming Jenna was interesting and could have made a fun addition. But the PP version was pathetic. One of those characters I felt like I was supposed to root for, but instead I couldn’t wait for her to get off my screen. Don’t even get me started on her being coy about Charlie’s paternity (a move more suited to OG Jenna than “poor heroine” Jenna) or on her relationship with Ray. I sensed no chemistry there. It felt more like “hmm, Ray’s single, Jenna’s single, we’ve got them each for another season. Let’s hook ‘em up!”

As we seem to have taken over this thread, i’m going to move over to the Dallas thread!

Exactly. It’s a symptom of a larger problem. If there weren’t other examples of Rhett being favored over his sisters, I wouldn’t think it was such a big deal. Reminds me of Tsar Nicholas II’s family — four girls before the much-desired prince (literal, in that case). The girls were loved, but came to think of themselves as a unit. Of course, in that particular situation, failure to produce a son would have meant the end of the dynasty and a loss of fragile national stability — all of which happened anyway, but still. The obsession over having a boy made some sense.