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Tough crowd!  She's wearing modern shoes with closed toes, pants, and a shirt that literally calls back to her family's ridiculous rules and there are still 35 things wrong with what she's doing. 

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That's okay. He's forgotten it a few times himself. 

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21 minutes ago, Barb23 said:

I'm not so sure Joy realizes that her & all her sibling's names start with a "J".

 

I loved your posts @doodlebug.  When I worked at an OB gyn office, one of the doctors was telling us about one of her first time mom-to-be.   She came in with a 3 inch binder Birth Plan & expected the doctor to read & follow it to the T.  The doc told her she didn't have time to read it but would try to follow the patient's wants as much as they could.  The plan even included what type of blankets, bed linens  & gowns she wanted. I think she was also planning on a roomful of people to witness the birth. The doc ended their conversation by reminding mom-to-be that she (the doctor) was basically in charge of the birth & they would need to follow her direction including clearing the room out when necessary. 

I can't believe the young boyfriends of the mom-to-be's girlfriends would want to be anywhere near a birth.  My adult son stops me mid-sentence when I start talking anything childbirth.  It's hereditary, his dad is same way.

Your description of  the party like atmosphere in the waiting room can be said about a surgery waiting room as well.  When my dad had aneurysm surgery years ago, the surgeon requested only immediate family be there.  Like you said,  there were very big groups of people that looked like they were having a picnic rather than waiting for loved ones to come out of surgery.  I've seen same thing in ER waiting rooms as well.  When has the hospital become a party hang out?

UGH!!! You should have been there when my mother-in-law and sister-in-law came in from out of town when my husband was sick. My sister-in-law thought she could run the whole show and tried to keep us from talking with the kidney specialist and tried to convince us the doctor said it was okay for us to move and go to another hospital for my husband's dialysis treatments. The dialysis unit staff and doctor were not pleased with her at all. We came back a week later after moving to be closer to his family. I admit it was not a smart move on my part, and my husband was the one who wanted to leave and get away from his family. They also wanted us to take Smokey and Ace to the animal shelter because they were convinced they were not helping. GRRR!!! Smokey and Ace gave us more love and support than all my in-laws put together. When we came back to Helena and headed to the dialysis unit, the nurses who were there were so happy to see us. They contacted the doctor to let him know we were back. I knew they were worried about us and even worried about Smokey and Ace.

In fact, I would say my in-laws are the red neck version of the Duggars. The only difference is my one sister-in-law is JB. She tries to run the show and did not like it when I step up to the plate and said I would not put up with their crap anymore. Does this make me Jeremy? Hmmm... I guess the hubby and I are the Jinger and Jeremy of the family, but in my case, I stay clear of the in-laws, and my husband only visits his youngest sister.

fonfereksglen

fonfereksglen

1 hour ago, Barb23 said:

I'm not so sure Joy realizes that her & all her sibling's names start with a "J".

 

I loved your posts @doodlebug.  When I worked at an OB gyn office, one of the doctors was telling us about one of her first time mom-to-be.   She came in with a 3 inch binder Birth Plan & expected the doctor to read & follow it to the T.  The doc told her she didn't have time to read it but would try to follow the patient's wants as much as they could.  The plan even included what type of blankets, bed linens  & gowns she wanted. I think she was also planning on a roomful of people to witness the birth. The doc ended their conversation by reminding mom-to-be that she (the doctor) was basically in charge of the birth & they would need to follow her direction including clearing the room out when necessary. 

I can't believe the young boyfriends of the mom-to-be's girlfriends would want to be anywhere near a birth.  My adult son stops me mid-sentence when I start talking anything childbirth.  It's hereditary, his dad is same way.

Your description of  the party like atmosphere in the waiting room can be said about a surgery waiting room as well.  When my dad had aneurysm surgery years ago, the surgeon requested only immediate family be there.  Like you said,  there were very big groups of people that looked like they were having a picnic rather than waiting for loved ones to come out of surgery.  I've seen same thing in ER waiting rooms as well.  When has the hospital become a party hang out?

Over the last few years, between my brother, who we are caregiving, and my husband with his own issues, I've sat in waiting rooms for 13 different surgeries or day long procedures.  Add in the countless ER visits and doctor appointments, I have developed a bit of an anxiety problem when I am around people. Waiting rooms filled with large groups of family playing cards, eating, loudly reading texts or talking on their phones endlessly are a curse to to the rest of us.  As are the loud TVs.  And why are their children there instead of school or with a sitter?  Thank you for letting me vent!

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lascuba

lascuba

Jinger looked utterly disgusted when Anna said, "We haven't picked our letter yet!" back when she was pregnant with Mackynzie, so I can't see her going with a letter theme or even picking a J name at all, especially since both she and Jeremy have J names which would make a J-named baby an instant theme. Of course, if Jeremy expressed a desire for a J-name, Jinger will just nod idiotically and go with it.

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Barb23

Barb23

5 hours ago, fonfereksglen said:

Over the last few years, between my brother, who we are caregiving, and my husband with his own issues, I've sat in waiting rooms for 13 different surgeries or day long procedures.  Add in the countless ER visits and doctor appointments, I have developed a bit of an anxiety problem when I am around people. Waiting rooms filled with large groups of family playing cards, eating, loudly reading texts or talking on their phones endlessly are a curse to to the rest of us.  As are the loud TVs.  And why are their children there instead of school or with a sitter?  Thank you for letting me vent!

I hear you.  Unfortunately I've had many ER visits this past year as a patient & most of  time I was admitted.  Besides my husband, son & sister, I don't want any other visitors. Period.  I didn't want to see any one, incl my above mentioned loved ones,  on the first day of my stay in the ICU when i had pneumonia. I could barely breathe & basically gurgled. Carrying on a conversation was out of the question.   Plus I was exhausted & knocked out from the pain medicine.  I texted when I could & even those didn't turn out well. My son said getting any text was good, they knew I felt ok to try & they could always call nurses desk to check on me.  My MIL was a little upset she couldn't come for a visit even when I was moved to regular floor.  Even tho she means well, her visits last for hours. 

I can just imagine the whole Duggar gang showing up in the hospital whether they were wanted or not. 

Maybe Jinge and Jer can call the Duggars after the baby is born & just say the baby came quickly. 

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DragonFaerie

DragonFaerie

35 minutes ago, Barb23 said:

Maybe Jinge and Jer can call the Duggars after the baby is born & just say the baby came quickly. 

Yes, that is what I'm hoping.  Call them once the baby is born and they can fly down to help.  I can see poor Jeremy if J'chelle, Jana and Jill fly down about a week before the due date and stay in their guest room.  He'll need help burying the bodies after a couple of days - at least for J'chelle and Jill.

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Normades

Normades

On 3/29/2018 at 2:28 PM, doodlebug said:

Believe me, people do it.  It seems particularly popular amongst teen/young adult mothers who invite all their girlfriends and family along.  Most of these young ladies don't bother taking a childbirth class and think they won't be in pain 'because I have a high pain tolerance' (anyone who says this, almost by definition, is going to have a really poor pain threshold).  

I have to admit that as a cocky 19 year old, I was being admitted to give birth to my son because my water broke. I thought I was pretty tough. I bragged to the older nurse who was taking me upstairs how I was doing great and this whole birth thing was easy because I wasn't feeling any pain. The nurse said, "don't worry honey, you will." A few hours and some pitocin later and boy was she right!!! Truer words were never spoken!!! I've never forgotten what an ass I was and what that nurse said! Lesson learned.

I didn't go for the whole group viewing thing thankfully I wasn't that stupid!

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Barb23

Barb23

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8 hours ago, BitterApple said:

When I'm sick all I want to do is bury myself under the covers and watch bad Hallmark movies. I can't imagine having to entertain a crowd while giving birth. Maybe it's a personality thing where extroverts prefer the distraction, but as someone who prefers my space and privacy, it would drive me nuts.

Like I stated in my previous posts, I'm the same way & so is my sister. Maybe it's in our blood. 

My MIL still hasn't gotten the message this is how i am when I'm sick.  Years ago I was sick on Mother's Day & she had been invited over for breakfast. She still came over which was fine because I had already made breakfast casserole night before.  After breakfast was done she felt inclined to come upstairs to our room to see me & wish me a Happy Mothers Day. Ugh! She could have just yelled up the stairs & I didnt appreciate her "visit" even tho it was for just a minute. I felt like crap & had probably just had a visit to the bathroom if you know what I'm saying. Like you said, I just wanted to bury myself under the covers & not have to worry about guests. 

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floridamom

floridamom

So, Jeremy's mother is not Italian? Only ONE Italian grandparent? I'm so sick of publicity "playing up the Italian thing." He's more NON-Italian than Italian. Sick of this family playing it up, too. All that remains of Jer's Italian heritage are his GREAT grandmother's recipes being passed down to her daughter- in- law, Grandma Vuolo.  This coming from me, who is full Italian, first generation American.

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Lunera

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50 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

 Doesn't he have a church and a flock that needs tending? How does he manage to be away practically every weekend?

I keep forgetting he's a pastor at an actual church. Seems like he only likes attending pastor conferences and speaking engagements but doesn't like doing the actual work. And he chose the weekend of Easter Sunday to go on a trip, they must be filming their gender reveal or something.

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floridamom

floridamom

Jeremy's is away from his church on Easter weekend? Easter Sunday is the BIGGEST Christian observance and celebration, more spiritual than Christmas day. This guy is a 'pastor' for the publicity and LIKES to say he's a pastor. I don't think he really is; perhaps he's some type of assistant over there and they let him preach once in a while. 

Jeremy, please get a decent hair cut and get back that facial hair. You are beginning to look like an idiot. The Duggars are like the Borg.

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PradaKitty

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That can’t be Jessa’s house-there are shelves with BOOKS on them!

All of the Duggar husbands need to stop having their wives cut their hair - they aren’t trained and they aren’t good at it. If you’re going to be in the public eye, shelll out some bucks for a decent haircut (and ever hear of alterations?)

Jeremy seems really fond of Spurgeon. I do think they’re buddies! 

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Heathen

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10 minutes ago, PradaKitty said:

That can’t be Jessa’s house-there are shelves with BOOKS on them!

All of the Duggar husbands need to stop having their wives cut their hair - they aren’t trained and they aren’t good at it. If you’re going to be in the public eye, shelll out some bucks for a decent haircut (and ever hear of alterations?)

Jeremy seems really fond of Spurgeon. I do think they’re buddies! 

The Seewalds have shelves with books (religious crap books, but still books). 

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DragonFaerie

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Did Jessa and Ben fly down with the kids to see them for the weekend?  

Otherwise what a failure as a pastor.  Easter is the biggest event in a lot of Christian sects.  Good Friday, Holy Saturday, Easter Sunday, sunrise services and often things on Monday as well.  If he left and went to Arkansas this weekend, I'm thinking his church needs a new pastor

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Catfin

Catfin

On 3/26/2018 at 9:35 PM, Libby96 said:

I don't understand the inviting a whole army of people to the birth regardless of where it is taking place.  How many people do I really need observing me pushing 7 or 8 pounds out of my nether regions?  I was perfectly fine having just my husband there and the necessary (licensed, actual, trained) medical personnel.  Everyone else, my parents included, could come a few hours later when my baby and I were cleaned up and I'd had a sandwich.

Memories! When expecting, MIL told us to call her before we left for the hospital with our first so she'd have time to put on her makeup. She wanted to look good for pictures. After I stopped laughing, I clarified that only those present for the conception were to be present the day of delivery. She didn't buy it. 

The day DD was delivered, we didn't tell anyone on DH's side we'd gone in. The wonderful OB nurse put up a huge "mother-in-law net" sign on the door to keep out any sightseers. After we'd been out of touch twelve hours, she started calling hospitals to see if I'd been admitted. She didn't show up, but two sisters-in-law did. The sign kept them out. 

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GeeGolly

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Definitely not Jessa's home. Her living/dining/kitchen are really one long room. If you look closely Jeremy does have some facial hair in the pic with Spurgie.

They all do seem to have a lot of free time and money to be traveling all over the place. I bet Derick wishes he was still "volunteering" on Counting On. Grifting and fake-Ubering are going to get old real quick. And what will they do when they don't qualify for student housing, take another "new direction" and "volunteer" again on the show?

If nothing else Jeremy (& Jessa too) knew which side his bread was buttered on and is keeping the easy money coming in.

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On 3/31/2018 at 4:13 AM, floridamom said:

So, Jeremy's mother is not Italian? Only ONE Italian grandparent? I'm so sick of publicity "playing up the Italian thing." He's more NON-Italian than Italian. Sick of this family playing it up, too. All that remains of Jer's Italian heritage are his GREAT grandmother's recipes being passed down to her daughter- in- law, Grandma Vuolo.  This coming from me, who is full Italian, first generation American.

My maternal great+ grandfather came here from Ireland during the potato famine and that side of the family still considers themselves Irish. It's a pretty typical American thing, to identify with the main national heritage in your family despite how diluted it may be. Plus, I think the people on this board discuss his Italian heritage more than they do.

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Churchhoney

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20 hours ago, BitterApple said:

Good Lord, these people travel more in six months than I do in three years. Doesn't he have a church and a flock that needs tending? How does he manage to be away practically every weekend?

Because he doesn't give a flying crap about the church or, especially, the flock? .... Because just as with other Duggar adjacents, he married in partly to get fame and attention for himself. Even though, just like other Duggar adjacents, he may well be too dumb even to realize that this is true.  That's my guess, anyway. 

12 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

Well, I hope they're on their way home now so that Jeremy can preach a rousing, well-researched (riiiiight) Easter sermon for his flock tomorrow morning. 

Well, it might be well researched. But we know for sure that it won't be rousing. Jer's got a really soporific voice and speaking style. To my ear, anyway. 

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Bridget

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On 3/31/2018 at 4:13 AM, floridamom said:

So, Jeremy's mother is not Italian? Only ONE Italian grandparent? I'm so sick of publicity "playing up the Italian thing." He's more NON-Italian than Italian. Sick of this family playing it up, too. All that remains of Jer's Italian heritage are his GREAT grandmother's recipes being passed down to her daughter- in- law, Grandma Vuolo.  This coming from me, who is full Italian, first generation American.

 

4 hours ago, Nysha said:

My maternal great+ grandfather came here from Ireland during the potato famine and that side of the family still considers themselves Irish. It's a pretty typical American thing, to identify with the main national heritage in your family despite how diluted it may be. Plus, I think the people on this board discuss his Italian heritage more than they do.

As someone who is a true first generation American too (my father is from N. Ireland), I completely agree with you @floridamom!

My mom’s a 3rd generation Scottish-American via Nova Scotia. All of her summers (from childhood to age 18) were spent in Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, Canada. To this day, one spends the afternoon visiting people before they head to a (Cape Breton) square dance in the evenings. Google “Cape Breton square dance” and tell me your toes aren’t tapping!

Just like her dad with his kids, as we pulled into the driveway, my mom explains or reminds me how these people are related to me. It’s not for everyone, I know, and the time does pass slowly at times, especially when they start talking about stuff from their childhood. However, I am proud to say that my closest friends are also my 4th cousins.  Despite a 4,000 mile gap, when we hang out, it’s as if we’d grown up together. Our parents are all BFFs too because they grew up tgthr during each summer. While the probability that their kids (us) would get along, was there, it’s scary how well we all click despite not seeing each other as often as our parents did or the respective different experiences we’ve had.

I am of the mindset that if someone’s going to tell me that their bloodline originated in one country, I want to know where, the names in their family tree and three random facts about the region or area. (It’s snobby on my part, I know, but I admit it!) I do suspect part of it has to do with the fact that 1/2 of the men in my family wear kilts for formal occasions in a tartan that literally identifies our clan. 

Unlike the Holy Goalie, I’ve been fortunate to also spend lots of time in Ireland and make it a priority to go as often as I can. (I don’t actually even know if Baaaaaaabe has ever gone to Italy, but I have a gut feeling he hasn’t.)

It still kills me when the majority of people who claim they’re Irish or Scottish don’t even know what part of the country their people are from nor do they even have a surname to reference if they were to ever make the trip! 

@Nysha, you’re also right re: most American people claim what they know, no matter how deep those roots go. Even if someone’s family has been here for 150 years, in my opinion (especially after being a teacher for ten years & observing tons of social interactions/patterns/habits that are repeated consciously or not by students), I think there’s a strong desire for some people to hold onto very distant roots from Insert Name of Country Here so they feel like they have something to “be a part of” instead of saying “my family is American, but there are some 100+ years old roots from ____________  on my mom/dad’s side of the family.” 

What I have noticed is that most of the students I’ve taught as well as many of the people I know (friends, guys I’ve dated, former peers at school), those of whom are Caucasian, almost 90% of them claim to be “part Irish/English/Scottish/French/German” (yes, they list all five nationalities!) which I find interesting on so many levels. 

Alternatively, the students/people I know who claim to be Italian have never said “I’m part Italian and part ____________.” I only hear “I’m full blooded Italian.” That’s all. The end.

I also hear a lot of “I’m full blooded ____________” from those who identify as Norwegian or Swedish. I have never met anyone who claims to be Eastern European or Russian.

The most recent series of Ancestry.com commercials have made me really wish that Ancestry would either reduce their prices or that they would send out thousands of the kits for free in order for more people to learn about where their true roots come from. Maybe I’m biased, but I can’t imagine looking at different countries on a map and not knowing where my ancestors hail from.

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52 minutes ago, Bridget said:

Maybe I’m biased, but I can’t imagine looking at different countries on a map and not knowing where my ancestors hail from

I am on the opposite side of the spectrum. I think national and ethnic identity is very cool but as a Black American who’s closest ancestor to immigrate was a German Jew I have no idea many of the countries my ancestors hail from.

Most US persons (especially three generations or more) are MUTTS- whether they are identified as Caucasian, Black, Latino or Asian. In Chicago we have many many many residents who’s  family has roots in Poland and other Eastern European countries- so national pride for those regions is strong here. (They can talk about what region and town their family is from though)  

I have no problem with Jeremy identifying as Italian if that’s his cultural impression based on his family. 

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Spencer Hastings

Spencer Hastings

1 minute ago, Scarlett45 said:

I am on the opposite side of the spectrum. I think national and ethnic identity is very cool but as a Black American who’s closest ancestor to immigrate was a German Jew I have no idea many of the countries my ancestors hail from.

 

I was just about to say the same thing. Growing up my friends all knew their backstory and country of origin for several generations, but all I had was a continent and general assumption!

The ancestry DNA test was really cool to see.  Being able to identify percentages of myself in places like Scandinavia and Russia was such a surprise, but the 12% of my DNA from Wales plans on acting a fool for Prince Harry’s wedding!  So carry on, Mr. Vuolo. 

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Bridget

Bridget

1 minute ago, Scarlett45 said:

I am on the opposite side of the spectrum. I think national and ethnic identity is very cool but as a Black American who’s closest ancestor to immigrate was a German Jew I have no idea many of the countries my ancestors hail from.

Most US persons (especially three generations or more) are MUTTS- whether they are identified as Caucasian, Black, Latino or Asian. In Chicago we have many many many residents who’s  family has roots in Poland and other Eastern European countries- so national pride for those regions is strong here. (They can talk about what region and town their family is from though)  

I have no problem with Jeremy identifying as Italian if that’s his cultural impression based on his family. 

I should’ve added that where I live in SoCal, I don’t know of anyone who has Eastern European blood, but having spent time in Chicago, Milwaukee and Detroit, I am aware that Eastern Europe (especially Poland) is represented and richly celebrated.

I also strongly agree with you in that many people who live in the US have many “different drops of blood” in their heritage, which is why I think it would be an amazing thing for Ancestry.com (or a similar company) to allow more people to find out where their roots (outside of the US) lie.

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Totally

Totally

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All the ministers I know are flat out in the lead up to Easter, there is no time for time off.

Also with all of Jerm’s travelling, who ministers to the emotional needs of his congregation. I know the local minister near me has been busy getting Easter sermons finalised then had two congrgants needing support when loved ones passed this week.

With all the time away the Vuluos have he isn’t there for his congregation when they have difficult times, you can’t schedule illness etc 

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jennblevins

jennblevins

55 minutes ago, Bridget said:

I also strongly agree with you in that many people who live in the US have many “different drops of blood” in their heritage, which is why I think it would be an amazing thing for Ancestry.com (or a similar company) to allow more people to find out where their roots (outside of the US) lie.

My parents have been into researching genealogy since the 1980s, so I know way too much about all my (many) different drops of blood — and that it can be done without Ancestry.com. Although it involves a lot of digging through old documents.  

My husband describes me (and himself, as he’s of similar heritage) as being a “European Mutt.”

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Bridget

Bridget

1 minute ago, jennblevins said:

My parents have been into researching genealogy since the 1980s, so I know way too much about all my (many) different drops of blood — and that it can be done without Ancestry.com. Although it involves a lot of digging through old documents.  

My husband describes me (and himself, as he’s of similar heritage) as being a “European Mutt.”

I'm with you - it can be done without Ancestry.com. (A cousin of mine was into genealogy, so he researched and published a 600+ page book that's essentially a really big family tree, so I am beyond lucky to have that.)

I was simply using Ancestry.com as an example for those who aren't lucky enough like your family to have old documents. I have to be honest, I'm jealous (in a good way) that your family has access to original documents. Is the digging and finding information as cool as it looks when I've seen people digging things up on "Who do You Think You Are?" (Please say it is!)

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jennblevins

jennblevins

1 minute ago, Bridget said:

I was simply using Ancestry.com as an example for those who aren't lucky enough like your family to have old documents. I have to be honest, I'm jealous (in a good way) that your family has access to original documents. Is the digging and finding information as cool as it looks when I've seen people digging things up on "Who do You Think You Are?" (Please say it is!)

Alas, I’ve never seen “Who Do You Think You Are”, so I can’t comment on that — what it involved, at least for my part (I was a kid at the time) was going through a lot of card-sized birth and death records, squinting at a lot of reproductions of census books, and hanging out in a lot of windowless rooms at government offices and Mormon churches.  And my mom getting in arguements with relatives about what information was appropriate for a child to know. It was a lot like researching things at a library in the pre-internet age, at least in my child’s eyes  

My grandpa got involved at one point — he was on an unrelated  trip to one of the cities he thought his ancestors might have come from, and he picked up the phone and started calling people out of the phone book with his last name!  (It worked, too!) That would have been terrifying to me but maybe he thought it was cool and exciting?

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Heathen

Heathen

1 minute ago, jennblevins said:

My grandpa got involved at one point — he was on an unrelated  trip to one of the cities he thought his ancestors might have come from, and he picked up the phone and started calling people out of the phone book with his last name!  (It worked, too!) That would have been terrifying to me but maybe he thought it was cool and exciting?

I did something similar when I was searching for my dad's birth family. His birth mother is from a rural area and she's from a huge family that settled that area more than 200 years ago. I found someone on the first or second phone call. 

Back on topic: When is Jinger due? I'm calculating how many new grandkids Jim Bob and Mullet will have this year. At least three, right? 

farmgal4

farmgal4

On 3/30/2018 at 2:09 PM, lascuba said:

Jinger looked utterly disgusted when Anna said, "We haven't picked our letter yet!" back when she was pregnant with Mackynzie, so I can't see her going with a letter theme or even picking a J name at all, especially since both she and Jeremy have J names which would make a J-named baby an instant theme. Of course, if Jeremy expressed a desire for a J-name, Jinger will just nod idiotically and go with it.

I think they’re having a girl, and I also think, if they go with J names, that Justine and Julia are pretty names.

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