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Scarlett45

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39 minutes ago, charmed1 said:

I think Jingles enjoys being able to dress her daughter in all the things she would’ve liked to have growing up. I guess I can’t really fault her for that. She did have a really crappy childhood. She just has to be careful not to go overboard. My mom had a really bad childhood herself and always talked about how she never had her own doll. So she constantly bought me baby dolls that I really had no use for, but I never wanted to hurt her feelings by telling her to stop.

My BFF’s Mom (who died a few years ago) was like this about shoes. Another friend, her mom cried for years about how she never had her own wedding dress (never mind she’s been married to the same man for 38yrs!!). Of all the things Jinger does, dressing up your child in pretty clothes is very unremarkable. Most parents do that if they can afford it, especially for the first child. I have no criticisms on that front. 
 

I do like some of the outfits they choose for Felicity on a “baby fashion” level. 

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GeeGolly
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My push presents after having my kids were my kids. 

Spencer Hastings
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Tough crowd!  She's wearing modern shoes with closed toes, pants, and a shirt that literally calls back to her family's ridiculous rules and there are still 35 things wrong with what she's doing. 

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That's okay. He's forgotten it a few times himself. 

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6 hours ago, Scarlett45 said:

My BFF’s Mom (who died a few years ago) was like this about shoes. Another friend, her mom cried for years about how she never had her own wedding dress (never mind she’s been married to the same man for 38yrs!!). Of all the things Jinger does, dressing up your child in pretty clothes is very unremarkable. Most parents do that if they can afford it, especially for the first child. I have no criticisms on that front. 
 

I do like some of the outfits they choose for Felicity on a “baby fashion” level. 

My mom was like that about a sister! Whenever my sister and I would fight, she’d say that if she’d had a sister, they never would have fought, because she would have been sooooo grateful to have a sister, and everything would have been lollipops and rainbows all the time! Yeah...right...

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I think if we're playing armchair psychologist Jinger is doing all the things she didn't get to do as a kid. Her love of fine dining and restaurants is probably the result of years of canned food and pizza. Her attempts to make Felicity a SM star a result of how for years she was just a J'slave. Her craving for nice clothes a result of the years and years of hand-me-downs. 

The thing is nice stuff and fancy meals doesn't make up for the inner growth you need in order to leave the Gothard life. That process is so much more painful, and I don't think any of the Duggars are ready for it. Especially not with TLC still being a major source of income.

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Churchhoney

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20 minutes ago, Growsonwalls said:

I think if we're playing armchair psychologist Jinger is doing all the things she didn't get to do as a kid. Her love of fine dining and restaurants is probably the result of years of canned food and pizza. Her attempts to make Felicity a SM star a result of how for years she was just a J'slave. Her craving for nice clothes a result of the years and years of hand-me-downs. 

The thing is nice stuff and fancy meals doesn't make up for the inner growth you need in order to leave the Gothard life. That process is so much more painful, and I don't think any of the Duggars are ready for it. Especially not with TLC still being a major source of income.

This. So much this. If the damn TeeVee show hadn't given their family money and fame linked to their damn Gothardism, the tie between them and said Gothardism would be so much weaker. 

Damn you, TLC. 

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5 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

This. So much this. If the damn TeeVee show hadn't given their family money and fame linked to their damn Gothardism, the tie between them and said Gothardism would be so much weaker. 

Damn you, TLC. 

It also explains why Jill has been able to incrementally break away. No show money? No need to tie herself to Boob and his money with strings attached.

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awaken

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1 minute ago, Oldernowiser said:

No fucking way Jill isn’t still getting show money. You don’t get a leisurely, grammable, influencer life in LA on whatever small amount of equity they got from the Laredo house and whatever bullshit stipend goes with the equally bullshit scholarship RFP is grifting out of the MacArthur idiots.

That’s Jinger. 

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1 hour ago, Sew Sumi said:

A 7 minute video. Have at it. I refuse to continue watching.

 

Jinger must be in desperate need of a root touch-up. These next few weeks aren't going to be kind.

Felicity is very cute.

I love how Jeremy just leaves them in the dust at the two-minute mark. He treats Jinger more like the help than a wife.

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Churchhoney

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9 hours ago, lascuba said:

Well, from an outsider's perspective, that would make Jer fit right in with the leadership of any and all American evangelical church. 

Unfortunately, that may well be true....

But Jer's said he's hoping for a New Great Awakening and revival movement -- which he needs if he's going to make a decent salary as a preacher! .... And I'm pretty sure the attitude isn't helping churches gain -- or keep -- adherents....So if he wants to ensure his own preferred future, it'd be better to behave differently, I think! 😁

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1 minute ago, Barb23 said:

Re: the video. I do like that they both look more casual and not all dolled up. Jinger with no makeup  & Jerm wearing a sweatshirt without a bow tie & pocket square makes them seem more down to earth.  

Jerm needs to practice his preaching during the isolation.  I heard some Umms in his message to us.

It bugged me that Jinger’s first comment was “no makeup” as she gestured to herself. Who cares? 

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1 hour ago, floridamom said:

What is that stupid 'piano challenge' going to do?

Agreed. JereME used it as an example of Christian works at this time - how so? He said it would bring awareness to  Swan4kids. 

Meanwhile Jill did the challenge and as far as I can tell hasn’t gotten any public Likes from Jinger or other family. Sadly it seems like they ignore Jill on SM even though she comments on most everything they all post. 

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It looked to me that Jinger only challenged Jana and Erin Paine in that post, not Jill. (Yes, there was that "everybody join" throwaway line).  Maybe Jill sticking her desperate-to-be-noticed nose in it may have annoyed Jing.  It would have annoyed me.  But then, everything Jill does annoys me, so there's that..... 

 

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Spencer Hastings

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17 hours ago, OpieTaylor said:

It bugged me that Jinger’s first comment was “no makeup” as she gestured to herself. Who cares? 

Jinger strikes me as being very insecure.  Her “no makeup” comment was probably her attempt at beating the haters before they could judge her—on Instagram and in her psyche. 

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32 minutes ago, Chicklet said:

Well maybe she's pregnant but it seems a sneaky way to stir up leghumpers. And what has pregnancy got to do with the challenge? 

but how else will they get attention now??

no shopping, restaurant etc pics to post.

people might forget about them if they don't drop something for people to speculate on and talk about.

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On 3/22/2020 at 7:45 AM, Chicklet said:

What's with the #healthyfitpregnancy tag? I'm confused.

According to fundie tumbr (particularly keepingupwiththefundies), this hashtag wasn't part of the original swan4kids post. People on Instagram are asking her if she's pregnant and with that hashtag she's deserves to be asked. 

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Churchhoney

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41 minutes ago, Westiepeach said:

I'm too lazy/don't want to/ watch her silly video. What is "The Challenge?"

For some reason, it's to make a video of yourself playing "He's Got the Whole World in His Hands." 

What this has to do with anything, how it might especially relate to Diana's organization, and why it's a "challenge" of any kind, I have no idea. I do think it's quite possible that Diana V (or whoever came up with the idea of this "challenge") has no idea either (except that it vaguely relates to music and God...) It seems random and pointless as heck....

Maybe the idea is....Hey, let's start an online "challenge" that won't help anybody with anything at all and is so very not catchy or meaningful or interesting that it has absolutely no chance of going viral in, like, a million years!

Thinking Diana (If she's the one who thought this up -- Maybe Jingle or Jer thought this up???) may be about as effective a communicator as Jingle and Jer. 

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Churchhoney

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1 hour ago, Temperance said:

The point is for people to hear about the organization and find out more information about it. It's a slightly religious charity that gives music lessons to kids who otherwise lack access to music lesson.  The song is simple so people, who are beginners, can participate. More people increases visability. 

Yeah, I know that's what it's for! What I'm saying is -- There's approximately zero chance that this piece of stupidity will work in the way it's intended.

Many people don't even know that song well any more. And most "beginners" won't know how to play it. Nobody gives them the melody written down....or plays through the actual melody simply so, if they do play by ear, they can pick it up. Nobody says, "Hey, let's send it around the world played on lots of different instruments! -- Pick up your harmonica or your trumpet and bust it out! Or sing it!" ..... Nothing. 

It's just Jingle showing off, making no effort to actually bring anybody else into the thing.....With that Erin-Paine-like rendition with her throwing her damn hands around on those octaves in a way that she apparently thinks makes her some kind of virtuoso but really just makes her sound and look like a particularly unmusical showoff. (and makes the song ugly as heck into the bargain...) 

And how are they going to "learn about" the charity from these videos? Jinge gives them ZERO information about it.  Here's what anybody learns about the organization from Jingle's stupid post:  "The joining in on @swan4kids_pa to play 'He's got the whole world in His hands.'"  And she says nothing about it. 

Boy, that tells me a lot about the charity and really inspires me to learn about  and get involved with it by playing this song! Not. 

The only piece of information about the charity is one of the hashtags     #music4kids.

And that, again, tells nobody nothing. Except with Felic sitting there, you might think it's some kind of organization that teaches babies to play instruments. 

What I'm saying is -- This is supposedly a piece of publicity. And, as constructed, seems to me it's an absolutely worthless piece of publicity. It's not informative about the charity in any way shape or form. It doesn't point you to anything where you can actually find out about this charity. It doesn't in any way inspire you to be interested in the charity....If you don't know about the group already, you would definitely wonder why the heck it even would count as a charity -- and you're given no way to find the answer to that....And I don't see how it even inspires you to record yourself playing that song....

Even Diana's post doesn't do a damn thing that would tell anybody about the charity .... or inspire them or interest them in any way......And since doing those things is apparently the whole point of this "challenge," I'd say it's a fat flop. 

I suppose Diana's really only going after Duggar fans.....But I don't even see to what end she's doing that....

 

 

 

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Churchhoney

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45 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Cade didn't take them up on the challenge. 

I expect he looked at it and thought two things: First was the same thing I thought: "WTF?" He may not know anythng about her charity-- likely doesn't....and he certainly got no enlightenment from these posts. 

And then he probably thought, "Uh, I don't know this woman.....so I guess she's interested in riding on the coattails of my minimal fame."....But, um, she doesn't seem to be interested enough in her own  charity to even say anything about it in the post.....so how's he supposed to be inspired to participate? 

 

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Churchhoney

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Theory on how this lame publicity stunt came about: Jer read a bunch of online comments awarding Jingle's new (Jer-composed) tagline -- gifted musician who uses her talents on behalf of Diana V's charity -- two or more Pinocchios. 

He called his mom and said, "Mom! We need to show Jingle using her musical gifts to help you with your charity -- stat! .... People aren't believing it and it's crucial that they do because we are Breakout Stars!...."

Diana thought for about 30 seconds and came up with this "challenge" idea .....Then Jer saiid, "Hey, if you're going to tag Jingle, why not do more and tag my beloved famous American Idol contestant Cade Foehner, too? He'll definitely help out because he's my beloved  bff." 

So that's what Diana did. She wasn't even thinking about her organization when she whipped out her post. She was just quickly burnishing Jingle's tarnished reputation at the behest of her baby boy. 

 

 

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fonfereksglen

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34 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

Theory on how this lame publicity stunt came about: Jer read a bunch of online comments awarding Jingle's new (Jer-composed) tagline -- gifted musician who uses her talents on behalf of Diana V's charity -- two or more Pinocchios. 

He called his mom and said, "Mom! We need to show Jingle using her musical gifts to help you with your charity -- stat! .... People aren't believing it and it's crucial that they do because we are Breakout Stars!...."

Diana thought for about 30 seconds and came up with this "challenge" idea .....Then Jer saiid, "Hey, if you're going to tag Jingle, why not do more and tag my beloved famous American Idol contestant Cade Foehner, too? He'll definitely help out because he's my beloved  bff." 

So that's what Diana did. She wasn't even thinking about her organization when she whipped out her post. She was just quickly burnishing Jingle's tarnished reputation at the behest of her baby boy. 

 

 

Choosing .. God Bless America.. where we can all channel our inner Kate Smith would have been far more fun!  Especially considering Kate Smith's connection with the Philladelphia Flyers.

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